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Great analysis henger
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ForDaLuvOfMoney:

Jflo...I am not sitting here bashing Florida, they are a decent football team.  I just dont know how you and the media can say they have played such a dominating schedule?  Thats the point..to say USC plays nobody, when the PAC 10 just went 5-0 in bowls.  Here is Floridas schedule:
HAWAII--about as overrated as it comes(exposed by a pathetic Notre Dame team)
MIAMI---this is the same team that nobody will give Cal credit for beating in a bowl(so we cant give Fla credit either)
TENN---Beat by the Pac 10 bottom feeding UCLA
MISS---Lost at HOME
ARKANSAS---finished 5-7
LSU---Quality win
KENTUCKY---6-6, 2-6 in the SEC
GEORGIA---most overrated team in the country...but Ill say 2nd best win
VANDY---another .500 ballclub...also lost to Duke at home
S. CAR---embarrased by Iowa
THE CITADEL---??????
FLORIDA ST----Quality Win..Rivalry game
ALABAMA----Quality Win
 
Look at each game seriously...they did not play this GREAT schedule...Quit saying they played this "tough" SEC schedule...Tenn, Ark, Miss, Kentucky, Vandy, S Carolina???  Thats a "tough" SEC...
Again Florida is an excellent football team, but I dont see the seperation from USC.
 
 

 Great post

  Too many ignorant people look at a SEC team & say "OOH, they play a SEC schedule....it's SOOOO hard", w/o really even looking at it.
 
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Posted: #53
Usc cannot beat UF in a neutral field, UF is too much for them...sorry guys USC has a good football team but not like UF
 
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I will pay to see SEC against PAC 10 bowls.

UF vs USC = UF by 10

Alabama vs Oregon = bama by 17

UG vs Oregon state = bulldogs by 17

Miss vs CAL = rebels by 10

LSU vs Zona = tigers by 20

The final score SEC 5 - 0, sorry folks please do not compare the SEC with the PAC -10.

 

 
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ciga thats comedy! how bout usc vs all of those teams. I think you are confused with the concept of the topic. Go back and look at the complete scheduel. Lsu is not that dominant have you looked at their record and the teams they have beaten??? Or how bout the power house georgia looked at their losses. Nobody is debating the oncept that the SEC is not a good conference, but you would be ignorant to think USC could not compete in a conference that is in a down year...... oregon and cal beat miss st ole miss, gamecocks, tenn, lsu, arkansas, and compete with everybody else. it is the same as any conference, you have the elite teams, and then the teams who make the conference. we are not talking the best conference, just talking about not minimizing the pac 10 
 
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Hey Mugg...the  was for you...
 
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Cigarra...you are amazing...nice research..once again, just horrible opinions and no analysis behind your statements...
 
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PS I AGREE WITH WESTCOAST TROJAN! FOR YEARS! NOT SURE WHY, HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR FANS LOL... j/k
 
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Posted: #59
USC has a touch schedule.  How would YOU like to play Notre Dame, Washington, and Washington State all in one year.  Damn.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:


 Great post

  Too many ignorant people look at a SEC team & say "OOH, they play a SEC schedule....it's SOOOO hard", w/o really even looking at it.

Actually I've looked at both schedules, and I don't see how you can say USC's schedule is any tougher than Florida's.  At least UF had to go through Alabama to win their conference, while USC had to get past juggernauts like Oregon and UCLA.  If it weren't for Oregon State completely shitting the bed the last game of the season, USC isn't even in a BCS game.  Three weeks ago this team needs help to win a mediocre conference, and now everyone cries foul because they're not playing in the national championship.  We get it, USC, you can beat the Big Ten.  Congrats.  And the only ignorance I see is from people trying to discredit the SEC based on the Pac-10's success in bowl games before New Years Day.   

 
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I wasn't implying that USC's schedule was any tougher than UF's. My point was that most people don't even bother to look at it........ they simply assume since they're a SEC team that their schedule was brutal.............which would be incorrect.
 
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I like it better when the Pac-10 gets no respect.

All the idiot sheeple who follow the mass media and bet against the Pac-10 give the rest of us great lines.

Now we need a split national championship to really fuck up the BCS...
 
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Fla beat Hawii who lost to notre dame, miami who lost to cal, tenn who lost to ucla, LOST AT HOME to miss who lost to vandy and south carolina, beat arkansa who lost to kentucky, beat kentucky who lost to tennesse beat georgia who lost at home to tech, OH but put it to the citadel. so if you believe that the sec scheduel is so much more difficult, you need to re think that concept and understand that a playoff system would benefit all of the elite teams in every big conference. to say usc would not have a chance is outright ridiculous.....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LAUGHLINCAT:

Fla beat Hawii who lost to notre dame, miami who lost to cal, tenn who lost to ucla, LOST AT HOME to miss who lost to vandy and south carolina, beat arkansa who lost to kentucky, beat kentucky who lost to tennesse beat georgia who lost at home to tech, OH but put it to the citadel. so if you believe that the sec scheduel is so much more difficult, you need to re think that concept and understand that a playoff system would benefit all of the elite teams in every big conference. to say usc would not have a chance is outright ridiculous.....

You conveniently left off Alabama (BCS bowl team), UGA (New Year's Day Bowl), South Carolina (New Year's Day Bowl) and FSU.  Florida wasn't lucky enough to get to play those tough conference games against the likes of Washington and Washington State.  But keep trying to spin USC's schedule like there are some good wins on there.  There aren't.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by donnybrasco:

ForDav:  That's not what I mean.  I like USC a lot, and really respect the job Carroll has done down there.  They should have beat TX several years back and that would have made three titles.

It just has sucked the last few years that USC loses late in the season and can't get into the champ. game ,whereas others who lost early can make it.  Instead we have to suffer through some boring champ games, like FL /OH St.  I love watching smash mouth football, and USC can bring it.  I would love to see them play the offenses like FL and OK.  Now those would be close games, and hell USC may even lose.    Playoffs would settle this, but I just don't ever see that happening -even 20 years from now.  It's a long enough season as it is - these teams play 13/14 games a year.

Fixed it for you

 
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Quote Originally Posted by donnybrasco:

ForDav:  That's not what I mean.  I like USC a lot, and really respect the job Carroll has done down there.  They should have beat TX several years back and that would have made two titles.

It just has sucked the last few years that USC loses late in the season and can't get into the champ. game ,whereas others who lost early can make it.  Instead we have to suffer through some boring champ games, like FL /OH St.  I love watching smash mouth football, and USC can bring it.  I would love to see them play the offenses like FL and OK.  Now those would be close games, and hell USC may even lose.    Playoffs would settle this, but I just don't ever see that happening -even 20 years from now.  It's a long enough season as it is - these teams play 13/14 games a year.

now, it's fixed

 
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Laughlin Catnicely put
 
jflo cmon...he did mention GA, and south carolina...are you saying those are quality wins, because they play on New Years Day?  That is funny, didnt know that meant anything....
If you keep talking about Florida's schedule, do not forget to mention The Citadel...name me another top 5 team that played a flop that late in the season?  Actually all of USC's non conference games were against power conferences..including a preseason top 5 team in Ohio St....
 
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this is over your head isn't it. All I am saying is that GA is somewhat overrated, south carolina showed real well against iowa(big 10powerhouse). right, BAMA SHOULD SPANK UTAH as the game goes on, but that will not change the fact that USC SHOULD NOT BE SLIGHTED no matter what conference they are in. also that the sec should not be touted as a conference that is 3 teirs higher than the pac 10 they have 3 quality teams, 1 which has set up a schedule to allow them to be in the natl champ game, But not because of their conference, but because of their perception of their conference.... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME ASK TENN, SOUTH CAR, AUBURN, GA TECH, ETC....
 
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Playoffs please

 
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The last, b/c I dont want to continue talking about this topic, if USC will play in SEC every year they will lose at least 3 games per year.
 
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I hope thats your last cigarra...thats about as opiniated as it gets, with no analysis whatsoever...I think educated SEC fans will admit that USC would not lose 3 per year if in the SEC...AGAIN, I dont think anybody would deny how good USC is, the point to this thread is the fact that the PAC 10 is looked at as a 2nd rate conference...Deny USC's ability and you are truly an idiot...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LAUGHLINCAT:

Fla beat Hawii who lost to notre dame, miami who lost to cal, tenn who lost to ucla, LOST AT HOME to miss who lost to vandy and south carolina, beat arkansa who lost to kentucky, beat kentucky who lost to tennesse beat georgia who lost at home to tech, OH but put it to the citadel. so if you believe that the sec scheduel is so much more difficult, you need to re think that concept and understand that a playoff system would benefit all of the elite teams in every big conference. to say usc would not have a chance is outright ridiculous.....

USC beat Virginia who got drummed by Duke 31-3

beat Little 10 opponent Ohio State without their best player

beat Oregon who lost to Boise State @ home, who is an average at best road team

beat 5-7 Arizona State whose wins include Stanford, Wash, Wash State, UCLA, and OH Northern Arizona

beat Washington State whose only wins were against winless Washington and OH Portland State

beat Arizona who lost to 4-8 New Mexico and Stanford

beat winless Washington...nuff said

beat Cal who lost to Arizona (see above) and only scored 17 points in the process

beat Stanford whose record includes wins against Wash, Wash State, Arizona, San Jose State, and a week 1 win @ home against Oregon State, and a loss to Notre Dame

beat Notre Dame who lost to Syracuse

beat 4-8 UCLA who lost to BYU by 59-0

beat Little 10 opponent Penn State

 
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Quote Originally Posted by LAUGHLINCAT:

this is over your head isn't it. All I am saying is that GA is somewhat overrated, south carolina showed real well against iowa(big 10powerhouse). right, BAMA SHOULD SPANK UTAH as the game goes on, but that will not change the fact that USC SHOULD NOT BE SLIGHTED no matter what conference they are in. also that the sec should not be touted as a conference that is 3 teirs higher than the pac 10 they have 3 quality teams, 1 which has set up a schedule to allow them to be in the natl champ game, But not because of their conference, but because of their perception of their conference.... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME ASK TENN, SOUTH CAR, AUBURN, GA TECH, ETC....

What's over my head is the fact that your first post made absolutely no sense whatsoever.  All you said was Team A beat Team B who lost to Teams C, D, and E blah blah blah.  What's your point?  If you're honestly going to sit here and say that the Pac-10 is better than the SEC, you're off your fucking rocker.  The original poster wants respect because of a few bowl wins for the conference.  If we're basing which conference is superior based upon one glorified game at the end of the year, that by all means, Pac-10.  But compare the two conferences 1 against 1, 2 against 2, etc. and tell me how many games you honestly see the Pac-10 winning there. 

And your quote I have in bold is one of the funniest things I've read on here in awhile.  If you're referring to Florida, please tell me how scheduling Miami and FSU, along with a team coming off a Sugar Bowl appearance in Hawaii, is making a schedule to get to the national title game.  I'm all ears...  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by jfio626:

What's over my head is the fact that your first post made absolutely no sense whatsoever.  All you said was Team A beat Team B who lost to Teams C, D, and E blah blah blah.  What's your point?  If you're honestly going to sit here and say that the Pac-10 is better than the SEC, you're off your fucking rocker.  The original poster wants respect because of a few bowl wins for the conference.  If we're basing which conference is superior based upon one glorified game at the end of the year, that by all means, Pac-10.  But compare the two conferences 1 against 1, 2 against 2, etc. and tell me how many games you honestly see the Pac-10 winning there. 

And your quote I have in bold is one of the funniest things I've read on here in awhile.  If you're referring to Florida, please tell me how scheduling Miami and FSU, along with a team coming off a Sugar Bowl appearance in Hawaii, is making a schedule to get to the national title game.  I'm all ears...  

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i didn't see the pac 10 defeat any sec teams in these bowls
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