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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 10:05 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfestreetgambler:

    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 


    It's just the most boring football in history to watch, but it does work. Except for in the NFL, which is what killed him on that level.
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    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 


    It's just the most boring football in history to watch, but it does work. Except for in the NFL, which is what killed him on that level.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 10:12 AM ET #52

    Still trying to figure out why Arkansas is a double digit dawg. So far i have found nothing. Other than the linesmakers trying to insult my intelligence. They do this every week, and boy do they pay handsomely. Well me atleast. I have a thing for accepting gifts.
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    Still trying to figure out why Arkansas is a double digit dawg. So far i have found nothing. Other than the linesmakers trying to insult my intelligence. They do this every week, and boy do they pay handsomely. Well me atleast. I have a thing for accepting gifts.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 10:37 AM ET #53

    Line is down to 11 1/2 now. Arkansas has 3 new offensive lineman. Bama has a history of forcing Hog QBs to make mistakes. They drove Mallett crazy last year. Hogs are playing without #1 running back. Expect sacks and picks. Bama will grind a good Hog team down and cover by at least 2 TDs...
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    Line is down to 11 1/2 now. Arkansas has 3 new offensive lineman. Bama has a history of forcing Hog QBs to make mistakes. They drove Mallett crazy last year. Hogs are playing without #1 running back. Expect sacks and picks. Bama will grind a good Hog team down and cover by at least 2 TDs...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 10:52 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by jdslay:



    Yeah, hilarious.  I am from Arkansas, and the hogs are my team.  Whats so funny about using "we" when referring to the hogs?

    In neither one of my post did I say whether or not I thought the hogs would win.  Do I hope they do, of course.  But a lot of things are going to have to go our way in order to beat Alabama. 

    I'm just hoping we play them a good game.

    I will make this homer statement though.  If we don't put up many points on Alabama, no one will.  This will probably be the best offense they see all year. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by jdslay:



    Yeah, hilarious.  I am from Arkansas, and the hogs are my team.  Whats so funny about using "we" when referring to the hogs?

    In neither one of my post did I say whether or not I thought the hogs would win.  Do I hope they do, of course.  But a lot of things are going to have to go our way in order to beat Alabama. 

    I'm just hoping we play them a good game.

    I will make this homer statement though.  If we don't put up many points on Alabama, no one will.  This will probably be the best offense they see all year. 



     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 10:56 AM ET #55

    This is Bamas first test and they shall fail. They have a good defense,but offense sucks They have beaten teams like Penn State and their fans run their mouths about how great Penn was{the next week they kill Temple 14-10},Kent State and North Texas. Arkansaw will beat their asses, but will be a low scoring game.
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    This is Bamas first test and they shall fail. They have a good defense,but offense sucks They have beaten teams like Penn State and their fans run their mouths about how great Penn was{the next week they kill Temple 14-10},Kent State and North Texas. Arkansaw will beat their asses, but will be a low scoring game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 10:58 AM ET #56

    I always have fun at the bear trap when I'm up that way. It's a Saban memorial in there but always a good time
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    I always have fun at the bear trap when I'm up that way. It's a Saban memorial in there but always a good time
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:14 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord:

    This is Bamas first test and they shall fail. They have a good defense,but offense sucks They have beaten teams like Penn State and their fans run their mouths about how great Penn was{the next week they kill Temple 14-10},Kent State and North Texas. Arkansaw will beat their asses, but will be a low scoring game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord:

    This is Bamas first test and they shall fail. They have a good defense,but offense sucks They have beaten teams like Penn State and their fans run their mouths about how great Penn was{the next week they kill Temple 14-10},Kent State and North Texas. Arkansaw will beat their asses, but will be a low scoring game.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:20 AM ET #58

    Our D wont give up more than 10 points to the hogs.You people dont think we will score 21 points? Bama -11.5 is the play. Not a homer pick, an obvious one.

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    Our D wont give up more than 10 points to the hogs.You people dont think we will score 21 points? Bama -11.5 is the play. Not a homer pick, an obvious one.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:22 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord:

    This is Bamas first test and they shall fail. They have a good defense,but offense sucks They have beaten teams like Penn State and their fans run their mouths about how great Penn was{the next week they kill Temple 14-10},Kent State and North Texas. Arkansaw will beat their asses, but will be a low scoring game.

     

    Seriously? How much will u be putting on the ML?  I will give u 2 to 1 odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord:

    This is Bamas first test and they shall fail. They have a good defense,but offense sucks They have beaten teams like Penn State and their fans run their mouths about how great Penn was{the next week they kill Temple 14-10},Kent State and North Texas. Arkansaw will beat their asses, but will be a low scoring game.

     

    Seriously? How much will u be putting on the ML?  I will give u 2 to 1 odds.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:30 AM ET #60

    Arkansas will score more than 10 and no it is not an obvious play. 
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    Arkansas will score more than 10 and no it is not an obvious play. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:35 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Arkansas will score more than 10 and no it is not an obvious play. 

    Arkansas won't score more than 10, but I agree it's not an obvious play. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Arkansas will score more than 10 and no it is not an obvious play. 

    Arkansas won't score more than 10, but I agree it's not an obvious play. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:37 AM ET #62

    They have the best WR corps in the Nation in an NFL offense with a good QB, they have preparing for this game alone. If they don't put up more than 10 it would be a failure and a surprise. If PSU even got a first down against Bama, I think Ark can score at least more than 10 lol..
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    They have the best WR corps in the Nation in an NFL offense with a good QB, they have preparing for this game alone. If they don't put up more than 10 it would be a failure and a surprise. If PSU even got a first down against Bama, I think Ark can score at least more than 10 lol..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:42 AM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    They have the best WR corps in the Nation in an NFL offense with a good QB, they have preparing for this game alone. If they don't put up more than 10 it would be a failure and a surprise. If PSU even got a first down against Bama, I think Ark can score at least more than 10 lol..
    Ok. we have the best secondary in the nation... They are experienced, and learn quickly from their mistakes. They won't run the ball well enough to keep pressure off Wilson. The pro style NFL offense will allow our front seven more time to get back there, and get pressure/sack Wilson. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    They have the best WR corps in the Nation in an NFL offense with a good QB, they have preparing for this game alone. If they don't put up more than 10 it would be a failure and a surprise. If PSU even got a first down against Bama, I think Ark can score at least more than 10 lol..
    Ok. we have the best secondary in the nation... They are experienced, and learn quickly from their mistakes. They won't run the ball well enough to keep pressure off Wilson. The pro style NFL offense will allow our front seven more time to get back there, and get pressure/sack Wilson. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:45 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    Ok. we have the best secondary in the nation... They are experienced, and learn quickly from their mistakes. They won't run the ball well enough to keep pressure off Wilson. The pro style NFL offense will allow our front seven more time to get back there, and get pressure/sack Wilson. 

    Of course it goes both ways but no matter how good any defense is in college, I will give Arky at least 14 points against anyone offensively at the college level. You can have Childs completely covered and he can still shit on two people with ball skills, Wilson will have a much easier job with guys like this in each game. Im not in any way downing Bama's defense, this is more about reppin the unreal playmakers that play for Arkansas. They are tremendous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    Ok. we have the best secondary in the nation... They are experienced, and learn quickly from their mistakes. They won't run the ball well enough to keep pressure off Wilson. The pro style NFL offense will allow our front seven more time to get back there, and get pressure/sack Wilson. 

    Of course it goes both ways but no matter how good any defense is in college, I will give Arky at least 14 points against anyone offensively at the college level. You can have Childs completely covered and he can still shit on two people with ball skills, Wilson will have a much easier job with guys like this in each game. Im not in any way downing Bama's defense, this is more about reppin the unreal playmakers that play for Arkansas. They are tremendous
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:47 AM ET #65

    Arkansas will score more than 10 lol.
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    Arkansas will score more than 10 lol.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:57 AM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    Of course it goes both ways but no matter how good any defense is in college, I will give Arky at least 14 points against anyone offensively at the college level. You can have Childs completely covered and he can still shit on two people with ball skills, Wilson will have a much easier job with guys like this in each game. Im not in any way downing Bama's defense, this is more about reppin the unreal playmakers that play for Arkansas. They are tremendous

    I agree they are the best in the nation, and you make excellent points... We will see come Saturday... I actually teased Bama down to 6. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    Of course it goes both ways but no matter how good any defense is in college, I will give Arky at least 14 points against anyone offensively at the college level. You can have Childs completely covered and he can still shit on two people with ball skills, Wilson will have a much easier job with guys like this in each game. Im not in any way downing Bama's defense, this is more about reppin the unreal playmakers that play for Arkansas. They are tremendous

    I agree they are the best in the nation, and you make excellent points... We will see come Saturday... I actually teased Bama down to 6. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:04 PM ET #67

    It will be an interesting game to say the least this weekend and im excited. I won't miss a snap 
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    It will be an interesting game to say the least this weekend and im excited. I won't miss a snap 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:06 PM ET #68

    Nor I... Can't believe LSU/WV got gameday over this one... And WHY OH WHY must Gary, and Vern's DUMB ASSES commentate this game! FML!
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    Nor I... Can't believe LSU/WV got gameday over this one... And WHY OH WHY must Gary, and Vern's DUMB ASSES commentate this game! FML!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:07 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by shacorie:

    hey dude im from t town u meant Buffalo Wild Wings right

    No, I meant Buffalo Phil's.  There is also a Buffalo Wild Wings in T-town, but I've never been there.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by shacorie:

    hey dude im from t town u meant Buffalo Wild Wings right

    No, I meant Buffalo Phil's.  There is also a Buffalo Wild Wings in T-town, but I've never been there.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:09 PM ET #70

    Bama is by far the best team in the country at disguising the blitz. They will make Tyler wilson look stupid. Childs will not do anything against this d. Not to mention Bryant denny stadium will be rocking. One of the toughest atmospheres in the country. No way does arkansas win this game.

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    Bama is by far the best team in the country at disguising the blitz. They will make Tyler wilson look stupid. Childs will not do anything against this d. Not to mention Bryant denny stadium will be rocking. One of the toughest atmospheres in the country. No way does arkansas win this game.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:10 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by Smith4722:

    Bama is by far the best team in the country at disguising the blitz. They will make Tyler wilson look stupid. Childs will not do anything against this d. Not to mention Bryant denny stadium will be rocking. One of the toughest atmospheres in the country. No way does arkansas win this game.

     

    I live right by buffalo phils. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith4722:

    Bama is by far the best team in the country at disguising the blitz. They will make Tyler wilson look stupid. Childs will not do anything against this d. Not to mention Bryant denny stadium will be rocking. One of the toughest atmospheres in the country. No way does arkansas win this game.

     

    I live right by buffalo phils. haha

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:15 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    No, I meant Buffalo Phil's.  There is also a Buffalo Wild Wings in T-town, but I've never been there.

     


    I used to live right down the street from it, before the Tornado blew my house away.
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    No, I meant Buffalo Phil's.  There is also a Buffalo Wild Wings in T-town, but I've never been there.

     


    I used to live right down the street from it, before the Tornado blew my house away.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:16 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfestreetgambler:

    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 

    Saban complains about the offense at almost every post-game press conference.  Heck, he was complaining about it at the halftime North Texas interview.  He constantly says the offense needs to be more explosive, and needs to make more big plays.  So Saban wants it to happen, and Bama definitely has the weapons to make it happen.  The problem is it almost never happens.  Why?  At some point the offensive coordinator has to be held accountable for the lack of offensive production.

     

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    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 

    Saban complains about the offense at almost every post-game press conference.  Heck, he was complaining about it at the halftime North Texas interview.  He constantly says the offense needs to be more explosive, and needs to make more big plays.  So Saban wants it to happen, and Bama definitely has the weapons to make it happen.  The problem is it almost never happens.  Why?  At some point the offensive coordinator has to be held accountable for the lack of offensive production.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:17 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by Smith4722:

    Bama is by far the best team in the country at disguising the blitz. -  Not really at all... We have the talent to be the best, but we are struggling with our pass rush. This is mainly because of the teams we have played though. They are quick play, quick snap, quick throw teams. (With the exception of Penn St.) That's why I think we will do well against Arkansas, because they aren't. 

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    Bama is by far the best team in the country at disguising the blitz. -  Not really at all... We have the talent to be the best, but we are struggling with our pass rush. This is mainly because of the teams we have played though. They are quick play, quick snap, quick throw teams. (With the exception of Penn St.) That's why I think we will do well against Arkansas, because they aren't. 

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:20 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    Saban complains about the offense at almost every post-game press conference.  Heck, he was complaining about it at the halftime North Texas interview.  He constantly says the offense needs to be more explosive, and needs to make more big plays.  So Saban wants it to happen, and Bama definitely has the weapons to make it happen.  The problem is it almost never happens.  Why?  At some point the offensive coordinator has to be held accountable for the lack of offensive production.

     


    I will agree with you IF we don't show improvement in this area this week. I think we will though... We will see... Counting down the seconds until 2:30!!!!! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    Saban complains about the offense at almost every post-game press conference.  Heck, he was complaining about it at the halftime North Texas interview.  He constantly says the offense needs to be more explosive, and needs to make more big plays.  So Saban wants it to happen, and Bama definitely has the weapons to make it happen.  The problem is it almost never happens.  Why?  At some point the offensive coordinator has to be held accountable for the lack of offensive production.

     


    I will agree with you IF we don't show improvement in this area this week. I think we will though... We will see... Counting down the seconds until 2:30!!!!! 
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