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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 9:38 PM ET #26

    Personaly my opinion, and it ant a hell of alot, but the only 2 offencences that can beat Bama are Stanford and Boise state....Arkansas cant and LSU wont.....Bama defence puts Bamas offence in great field position...that is how they win..  
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    Personaly my opinion, and it ant a hell of alot, but the only 2 offencences that can beat Bama are Stanford and Boise state....Arkansas cant and LSU wont.....Bama defence puts Bamas offence in great field position...that is how they win..  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 11:36 PM ET #27

    We all know ur a homer tappy! Ark has one of the best passing game in the country. If ya look back Wilson was the #3 rated qb in the country out of high school and we will be able to score without knile Davis. Last year against this same defense we moved the ball at will and if not for 1 interception while trying to throw the ball out of bounds y'all would have lost the game. Shit happens and ya can always say that in each game, but if the hogs are able to stop the running game or just slow it down then Bama will not be able to produce points. Bama's D has not been tested and will be come sat. They better show up to play because this game will be decided by which QB makes more mistakes and my bet is on the no name qb Bama has. Hogs steal this one in Alabama by 3.
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    We all know ur a homer tappy! Ark has one of the best passing game in the country. If ya look back Wilson was the #3 rated qb in the country out of high school and we will be able to score without knile Davis. Last year against this same defense we moved the ball at will and if not for 1 interception while trying to throw the ball out of bounds y'all would have lost the game. Shit happens and ya can always say that in each game, but if the hogs are able to stop the running game or just slow it down then Bama will not be able to produce points. Bama's D has not been tested and will be come sat. They better show up to play because this game will be decided by which QB makes more mistakes and my bet is on the no name qb Bama has. Hogs steal this one in Alabama by 3.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:15 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgs4itAll2011:

    We all know ur a homer tappy! Ark has one of the best passing game in the country. If ya look back Wilson was the #3 rated qb in the country out of high school and we will be able to score without knile Davis. Last year against this same defense we moved the ball at will and if not for 1 interception while trying to throw the ball out of bounds y'all would have lost the game. Shit happens and ya can always say that in each game, but if the hogs are able to stop the running game or just slow it down then Bama will not be able to produce points. Bama's D has not been tested and will be come sat. They better show up to play because this game will be decided by which QB makes more mistakes and my bet is on the no name qb Bama has. Hogs steal this one in Alabama by 3.

    Your a homer also calling the kettle black.

    Tell you want, you can check this out any day, all day, and everyday.

    McCarron stats was better coming into the football season then Wilson's and McCarron was red shirted his 1st year and Wilson was not. So say want you won't to about Alabama's no name QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgs4itAll2011:

    We all know ur a homer tappy! Ark has one of the best passing game in the country. If ya look back Wilson was the #3 rated qb in the country out of high school and we will be able to score without knile Davis. Last year against this same defense we moved the ball at will and if not for 1 interception while trying to throw the ball out of bounds y'all would have lost the game. Shit happens and ya can always say that in each game, but if the hogs are able to stop the running game or just slow it down then Bama will not be able to produce points. Bama's D has not been tested and will be come sat. They better show up to play because this game will be decided by which QB makes more mistakes and my bet is on the no name qb Bama has. Hogs steal this one in Alabama by 3.

    Your a homer also calling the kettle black.

    Tell you want, you can check this out any day, all day, and everyday.

    McCarron stats was better coming into the football season then Wilson's and McCarron was red shirted his 1st year and Wilson was not. So say want you won't to about Alabama's no name QB.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:30 AM ET #29

    i wouldnt put too much into arkansas i mean at home last week and they had trouble stopping troy from scoring. Now playing at Ala up against a defense like that i really only see ARK having a chance is for the ALA rookie QB to start throwing more INT otherwise i dont see them scoring. 
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    i wouldnt put too much into arkansas i mean at home last week and they had trouble stopping troy from scoring. Now playing at Ala up against a defense like that i really only see ARK having a chance is for the ALA rookie QB to start throwing more INT otherwise i dont see them scoring. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by prozrisk99:

    i wouldnt put too much into arkansas i mean at home last week and they had trouble stopping troy from scoring. Now playing at Ala up against a defense like that i really only see ARK having a chance is for the ALA rookie QB to start throwing more INT otherwise i dont see them scoring. 

    Troy had 457 total yds against Arkansas....

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    Quote Originally Posted by prozrisk99:

    i wouldnt put too much into arkansas i mean at home last week and they had trouble stopping troy from scoring. Now playing at Ala up against a defense like that i really only see ARK having a chance is for the ALA rookie QB to start throwing more INT otherwise i dont see them scoring. 

    Troy had 457 total yds against Arkansas....

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:44 AM ET #31

    sup fellas.   taking a dog in college football has been a death sentence this year. favs been covering every big game.  not sure on this one, def  a lot of pts  
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    sup fellas.   taking a dog in college football has been a death sentence this year. favs been covering every big game.  not sure on this one, def  a lot of pts  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:50 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    Look back against Penn St... What did Bama do? We ran the ball up the middle the whole game, and AJ's QB play improved. Last week, our running plays were focused more towards the outside, we moved Jones to tackle, and put CK in... There was a lack of chemistry at times because of this, and when Simm's came in the game. This week, the online chemistry will be clicking, AJ will be the QB throughout the game, his play will improve, as it has every week. The running game will be on point, and not have to experiment as it has in the past few weeks, and as you said I think we will see more Blake Simms. That is what I mean by opening the playbook... As for the Defense, they will be fine... They won't produce a shutout, but Arkansas will not score more than one TD on us. We have too many experienced veterans going up against a first year starting QB Tyler Wilson who is no Ryan Mallett. Bama covers the spread, no doubt. 


    WELL---NOW---UR SPEAKING OF THE ANEMIC--PEDESTRIAN NON EXISTENT PENN.ST TEAM----THERE WHERE A REASON WHY THE LIONS WERE DD HOME DOGS LIKE IN A ZILLION YEARS---AND THATS BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF IT RIGHT NOW---I ASURE U SIR BAMA DIDNT IMPRESSED ME A LOT AGAINST PENN ST, ACTUALLY IT DISSAPPOINTED ME LIKE THEY DID LAST WEEK ---- BAMA MIGHT WIN SU TO ARKY BUT PETRINO WILL UNLEASH HELL ON THEM---AND IM NO HOMER ----JUST A GAMBLER----THAT CANT TAKE SERIOUSLY WHAT A GUY WITH A TIDE LOGO ON HIS AVATAR SAYS-----
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

    Look back against Penn St... What did Bama do? We ran the ball up the middle the whole game, and AJ's QB play improved. Last week, our running plays were focused more towards the outside, we moved Jones to tackle, and put CK in... There was a lack of chemistry at times because of this, and when Simm's came in the game. This week, the online chemistry will be clicking, AJ will be the QB throughout the game, his play will improve, as it has every week. The running game will be on point, and not have to experiment as it has in the past few weeks, and as you said I think we will see more Blake Simms. That is what I mean by opening the playbook... As for the Defense, they will be fine... They won't produce a shutout, but Arkansas will not score more than one TD on us. We have too many experienced veterans going up against a first year starting QB Tyler Wilson who is no Ryan Mallett. Bama covers the spread, no doubt. 


    WELL---NOW---UR SPEAKING OF THE ANEMIC--PEDESTRIAN NON EXISTENT PENN.ST TEAM----THERE WHERE A REASON WHY THE LIONS WERE DD HOME DOGS LIKE IN A ZILLION YEARS---AND THATS BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF IT RIGHT NOW---I ASURE U SIR BAMA DIDNT IMPRESSED ME A LOT AGAINST PENN ST, ACTUALLY IT DISSAPPOINTED ME LIKE THEY DID LAST WEEK ---- BAMA MIGHT WIN SU TO ARKY BUT PETRINO WILL UNLEASH HELL ON THEM---AND IM NO HOMER ----JUST A GAMBLER----THAT CANT TAKE SERIOUSLY WHAT A GUY WITH A TIDE LOGO ON HIS AVATAR SAYS-----
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 12:55 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgs4itAll2011:

     

    They better show up to play because this game will be decided by which QB makes more mistakes and my bet is on the no name qb Bama has. Hogs steal this one in Alabama by 3.

    I hate to inform you that AJ McCarron is a more highly touted QB than Tyler Wilson.

    Tyler Wilson was ranked as the 9th best pro-style QB in the nation in the 2008 class, and was not ranked nationally.  McCarron was the #2 ranked pro-style QB in the nation in the 2009 class, and was ranked in the top 100 nationally.  McCarron also qualified for the Elite 11 QB Camp.  So LOL at you characterizing AJ McCarron as a "no name" QB.  Saban doesn't recruit any "no name" players at any position.

    But neither Wilson nor McCarron will be the highest rated QB at the game this Saturday.  That distinction belongs to Phillip Sims.  Sims was the #1 pro-style QB in the nation in the 2010 class, and was ranked in the top 50 nationally.  Sims was also selected for the Elite 11 QB Camp.

    What Wilson does have going for him over both McCarron and Sims is experience.  This is Wilson's 4th season, while Sims and McCarron are in their 2nd and 3rd season respectively.

    I agree that this game may come down to the QB who makes the fewest mistakes, and I can almost guarantee you that'll be McCarron.  Wilson will be throwing into the top secondary in the nation, and McCarron will be throwing into the weak link of the Arky defense - their secondary.  That is why Alabama will most likely win this game.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgs4itAll2011:

     

    They better show up to play because this game will be decided by which QB makes more mistakes and my bet is on the no name qb Bama has. Hogs steal this one in Alabama by 3.

    I hate to inform you that AJ McCarron is a more highly touted QB than Tyler Wilson.

    Tyler Wilson was ranked as the 9th best pro-style QB in the nation in the 2008 class, and was not ranked nationally.  McCarron was the #2 ranked pro-style QB in the nation in the 2009 class, and was ranked in the top 100 nationally.  McCarron also qualified for the Elite 11 QB Camp.  So LOL at you characterizing AJ McCarron as a "no name" QB.  Saban doesn't recruit any "no name" players at any position.

    But neither Wilson nor McCarron will be the highest rated QB at the game this Saturday.  That distinction belongs to Phillip Sims.  Sims was the #1 pro-style QB in the nation in the 2010 class, and was ranked in the top 50 nationally.  Sims was also selected for the Elite 11 QB Camp.

    What Wilson does have going for him over both McCarron and Sims is experience.  This is Wilson's 4th season, while Sims and McCarron are in their 2nd and 3rd season respectively.

    I agree that this game may come down to the QB who makes the fewest mistakes, and I can almost guarantee you that'll be McCarron.  Wilson will be throwing into the top secondary in the nation, and McCarron will be throwing into the weak link of the Arky defense - their secondary.  That is why Alabama will most likely win this game.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 1:01 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by prozrisk99:

    i wouldnt put too much into arkansas i mean at home last week and they had trouble stopping troy from scoring. Now playing at Ala up against a defense like that i really only see ARK having a chance is for the ALA rookie QB to start throwing more INT otherwise i dont see them scoring. 

    One of Troy's TDs was a pick 6.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by prozrisk99:

    i wouldnt put too much into arkansas i mean at home last week and they had trouble stopping troy from scoring. Now playing at Ala up against a defense like that i really only see ARK having a chance is for the ALA rookie QB to start throwing more INT otherwise i dont see them scoring. 

    One of Troy's TDs was a pick 6.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 1:32 AM ET #35

    I am a little shocked at the spread def thought it would be around 9 or 10. It would be real benificial to have dennis johnson contribute in the run game, he is the only type of back without davis in the lineup that I could see having any type of success against this bama D. Arkansas D will have to play lights out to win this game, which they are capable of doing. wIlson is also going to have to get the ball out of his hands quick to his playmakers, cus having a true fresh starting Left tackle in a road game of this magnitude is scarry as FUCK . No knock on wingo either, he is just more suited to contribute in the passing game

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    I am a little shocked at the spread def thought it would be around 9 or 10. It would be real benificial to have dennis johnson contribute in the run game, he is the only type of back without davis in the lineup that I could see having any type of success against this bama D. Arkansas D will have to play lights out to win this game, which they are capable of doing. wIlson is also going to have to get the ball out of his hands quick to his playmakers, cus having a true fresh starting Left tackle in a road game of this magnitude is scarry as FUCK . No knock on wingo either, he is just more suited to contribute in the passing game

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 1:45 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by HugeBallz:






    Yeah, hilarious.  I am from Arkansas, and the hogs are my team.  Whats so funny about using "we" when referring to the hogs?

    In neither one of my post did I say whether or not I thought the hogs would win.  Do I hope they do, of course.  But a lot of things are going to have to go our way in order to beat Alabama. 

    I'm just hoping we play them a good game.

    I will make this homer statement though.  If we don't put up many points on Alabama, no one will.  This will probably be the best offense they see all year. 
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    Yeah, hilarious.  I am from Arkansas, and the hogs are my team.  Whats so funny about using "we" when referring to the hogs?

    In neither one of my post did I say whether or not I thought the hogs would win.  Do I hope they do, of course.  But a lot of things are going to have to go our way in order to beat Alabama. 

    I'm just hoping we play them a good game.

    I will make this homer statement though.  If we don't put up many points on Alabama, no one will.  This will probably be the best offense they see all year. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 1:54 AM ET #37

    Jimmy you are correct off rivals.com listing. I was looking at espn150 where he was ranked nationally and I might have counted wrong on the list to get # 3
    Lucan, I am a homer because I was a bench warming qb in 98 that never played a down but I dont believe my team is unbeatable. I just like to get a healthy rise out of fans of Bama and LSU, but I don't like it when people get on hear and talk shit through a computer. I try to just throw a few jabs and take a few back. I can't get out and play on the field anymore "wait I never got to play anyway" so I have to get a little excited on the weeks of these games.
    I know aj is not a no name qb but I truly don't know much about him.
    I am expecting a great hard fought game. Best of luck to Bama fans see ya in the bar after the game.
    Bama fans which bar is the best to go to?
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    Jimmy you are correct off rivals.com listing. I was looking at espn150 where he was ranked nationally and I might have counted wrong on the list to get # 3
    Lucan, I am a homer because I was a bench warming qb in 98 that never played a down but I dont believe my team is unbeatable. I just like to get a healthy rise out of fans of Bama and LSU, but I don't like it when people get on hear and talk shit through a computer. I try to just throw a few jabs and take a few back. I can't get out and play on the field anymore "wait I never got to play anyway" so I have to get a little excited on the weeks of these games.
    I know aj is not a no name qb but I truly don't know much about him.
    I am expecting a great hard fought game. Best of luck to Bama fans see ya in the bar after the game.
    Bama fans which bar is the best to go to?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgs4itAll2011:

    Jimmy you are correct off rivals.com listing. I was looking at espn150 where he was ranked nationally and I might have counted wrong on the list to get # 3
    Lucan, I am a homer because I was a bench warming qb in 98 that never played a down but I dont believe my team is unbeatable. I just like to get a healthy rise out of fans of Bama and LSU, but I don't like it when people get on hear and talk shit through a computer. I try to just throw a few jabs and take a few back. I can't get out and play on the field anymore "wait I never got to play anyway" so I have to get a little excited on the weeks of these games.
    I know aj is not a no name qb but I truly don't know much about him.
    I am expecting a great hard fought game. Best of luck to Bama fans see ya in the bar after the game.
    Bama fans which bar is the best to go to?

    As you and I both know, recruiting rankings won't mean shit in this game.  I think Wilson is an excellent QB that will thrive under Petrino.  Because he plays in Petrino's system, he'll probably have a good shot of being a high NFL draft pick someday.

    What I like about Wilson more than Mallet is his ability to create on the move.  Mallet was a statue in the pocket, and if you could force him to move his feet, you could force him into mistakes.  Ohio State did a great job of that in the Sugar Bowl.  I don't think Wilson is as easily rattled.  I actually fear Wilson more than Mallett.

    I think Wilson will probably make more mistakes in this game becasue he's throwing into Bama's secondary.  If the roles were reversed and McCarron had to throw into Bama's secondary, I would say McCarron would make more mistakes.  In other words, it's more the defense the QB has to contend with more so than the QB himself.  Both are talented and capable.

    As far as bars are concerned, I like the Houndstooth.  I also like Buffalo Phil's, but that is more like a restaurant.  I like Buffalo Phils cuz I know a hot little waitress that works there.    Nevertheless, I'll be in T-town on Saturday rooting for the Tide.

     

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    Jimmy you are correct off rivals.com listing. I was looking at espn150 where he was ranked nationally and I might have counted wrong on the list to get # 3
    Lucan, I am a homer because I was a bench warming qb in 98 that never played a down but I dont believe my team is unbeatable. I just like to get a healthy rise out of fans of Bama and LSU, but I don't like it when people get on hear and talk shit through a computer. I try to just throw a few jabs and take a few back. I can't get out and play on the field anymore "wait I never got to play anyway" so I have to get a little excited on the weeks of these games.
    I know aj is not a no name qb but I truly don't know much about him.
    I am expecting a great hard fought game. Best of luck to Bama fans see ya in the bar after the game.
    Bama fans which bar is the best to go to?

    As you and I both know, recruiting rankings won't mean shit in this game.  I think Wilson is an excellent QB that will thrive under Petrino.  Because he plays in Petrino's system, he'll probably have a good shot of being a high NFL draft pick someday.

    What I like about Wilson more than Mallet is his ability to create on the move.  Mallet was a statue in the pocket, and if you could force him to move his feet, you could force him into mistakes.  Ohio State did a great job of that in the Sugar Bowl.  I don't think Wilson is as easily rattled.  I actually fear Wilson more than Mallett.

    I think Wilson will probably make more mistakes in this game becasue he's throwing into Bama's secondary.  If the roles were reversed and McCarron had to throw into Bama's secondary, I would say McCarron would make more mistakes.  In other words, it's more the defense the QB has to contend with more so than the QB himself.  Both are talented and capable.

    As far as bars are concerned, I like the Houndstooth.  I also like Buffalo Phil's, but that is more like a restaurant.  I like Buffalo Phils cuz I know a hot little waitress that works there.    Nevertheless, I'll be in T-town on Saturday rooting for the Tide.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceveche88:

    I am a little shocked at the spread def thought it would be around 9 or 10. It would be real benificial to have dennis johnson contribute in the run game, he is the only type of back without davis in the lineup that I could see having any type of success against this bama D. Arkansas D will have to play lights out to win this game, which they are capable of doing. wIlson is also going to have to get the ball out of his hands quick to his playmakers, cus having a true fresh starting Left tackle in a road game of this magnitude is scarry as FUCK . No knock on wingo either, he is just more suited to contribute in the passing game

    I think this line will be about 10 at kickoff.  It you like the Pigs, I would jump on the number now.

     

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    I am a little shocked at the spread def thought it would be around 9 or 10. It would be real benificial to have dennis johnson contribute in the run game, he is the only type of back without davis in the lineup that I could see having any type of success against this bama D. Arkansas D will have to play lights out to win this game, which they are capable of doing. wIlson is also going to have to get the ball out of his hands quick to his playmakers, cus having a true fresh starting Left tackle in a road game of this magnitude is scarry as FUCK . No knock on wingo either, he is just more suited to contribute in the passing game

    I think this line will be about 10 at kickoff.  It you like the Pigs, I would jump on the number now.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgs4itAll2011:

    Jimmy you are correct off rivals.com listing. I was looking at espn150 where he was ranked nationally and I might have counted wrong on the list to get # 3
    Lucan, I am a homer because I was a bench warming qb in 98 that never played a down but I dont believe my team is unbeatable. I just like to get a healthy rise out of fans of Bama and LSU, but I don't like it when people get on hear and talk shit through a computer. I try to just throw a few jabs and take a few back. I can't get out and play on the field anymore "wait I never got to play anyway" so I have to get a little excited on the weeks of these games.
    I know aj is not a no name qb but I truly don't know much about him.
    I am expecting a great hard fought game. Best of luck to Bama fans see ya in the bar after the game.
    Bama fans which bar is the best to go to?

    Well thats one thing about computers it seems to make people 10ft tall and bullet proof...lol i know exactly what you're talking about. I plan on doing a small write up on this game, and believe me i will give credit where credit is due on both sides of the ball. Right now i was waiting for the line to drop which i think it will.

    Why didn't you put some exlax in you're QB's coffee so you could play? Just kidding  at least you got to experince something only few do playing college football warming the bench...just kidding again

    I believe everyone has the right to their opinions/predictions of games they believe will happen homer or not, but i dislike people who think others don't know shit about the sport.

    You and i both know, football is one of the most important things to us in the south beside's our family's. We know football and screw people who think we don't.

    But if i said Wilson suck shit threw a straw i'd expect you to say something back. I was just letting you know McCarron is a good a QB as Wilson and you should expect this come game day...

    Best of Luck to you Razorback fans also, i remember the 1st Alabama game i went to was against Arkansas which got over 600 total yards on Alabama at home and Arkansas still lost.

    As far as bars, i worked them for allot of years and i'm retired and never cared for drinking a cold one other then a Dr Pepper.

    Good Luck this weekend...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawgs4itAll2011:

    Jimmy you are correct off rivals.com listing. I was looking at espn150 where he was ranked nationally and I might have counted wrong on the list to get # 3
    Lucan, I am a homer because I was a bench warming qb in 98 that never played a down but I dont believe my team is unbeatable. I just like to get a healthy rise out of fans of Bama and LSU, but I don't like it when people get on hear and talk shit through a computer. I try to just throw a few jabs and take a few back. I can't get out and play on the field anymore "wait I never got to play anyway" so I have to get a little excited on the weeks of these games.
    I know aj is not a no name qb but I truly don't know much about him.
    I am expecting a great hard fought game. Best of luck to Bama fans see ya in the bar after the game.
    Bama fans which bar is the best to go to?

    Well thats one thing about computers it seems to make people 10ft tall and bullet proof...lol i know exactly what you're talking about. I plan on doing a small write up on this game, and believe me i will give credit where credit is due on both sides of the ball. Right now i was waiting for the line to drop which i think it will.

    Why didn't you put some exlax in you're QB's coffee so you could play? Just kidding  at least you got to experince something only few do playing college football warming the bench...just kidding again

    I believe everyone has the right to their opinions/predictions of games they believe will happen homer or not, but i dislike people who think others don't know shit about the sport.

    You and i both know, football is one of the most important things to us in the south beside's our family's. We know football and screw people who think we don't.

    But if i said Wilson suck shit threw a straw i'd expect you to say something back. I was just letting you know McCarron is a good a QB as Wilson and you should expect this come game day...

    Best of Luck to you Razorback fans also, i remember the 1st Alabama game i went to was against Arkansas which got over 600 total yards on Alabama at home and Arkansas still lost.

    As far as bars, i worked them for allot of years and i'm retired and never cared for drinking a cold one other then a Dr Pepper.

    Good Luck this weekend...

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    As you and I both know, recruiting rankings won't mean shit in this game.  I think Wilson is an excellent QB that will thrive under Petrino.  Because he plays in Petrino's system, he'll probably have a good shot of being a high NFL draft pick someday.

    What I like about Wilson more than Mallet is his ability to create on the move.  Mallet was a statue in the pocket, and if you could force him to move his feet, you could force him into mistakes.  Ohio State did a great job of that in the Sugar Bowl.  I don't think Wilson is as easily rattled.  I actually fear Wilson more than Mallett.

    I think Wilson will probably make more mistakes in this game becasue he's throwing into Bama's secondary.  If the roles were reversed and McCarron had to throw into Bama's secondary, I would say McCarron would make more mistakes.  In other words, it's more the defense the QB has to contend with more so than the QB himself.  Both are talented and capable.

    As far as bars are concerned, I like the Houndstooth.  I also like Buffalo Phil's, but that is more like a restaurant.  I like Buffalo Phils cuz I know a hot little waitress that works there.    Nevertheless, I'll be in T-town on Saturday rooting for the Tide.

     

    hey dude im from t town u meant Buffalo Wild Wings right
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    As you and I both know, recruiting rankings won't mean shit in this game.  I think Wilson is an excellent QB that will thrive under Petrino.  Because he plays in Petrino's system, he'll probably have a good shot of being a high NFL draft pick someday.

    What I like about Wilson more than Mallet is his ability to create on the move.  Mallet was a statue in the pocket, and if you could force him to move his feet, you could force him into mistakes.  Ohio State did a great job of that in the Sugar Bowl.  I don't think Wilson is as easily rattled.  I actually fear Wilson more than Mallett.

    I think Wilson will probably make more mistakes in this game becasue he's throwing into Bama's secondary.  If the roles were reversed and McCarron had to throw into Bama's secondary, I would say McCarron would make more mistakes.  In other words, it's more the defense the QB has to contend with more so than the QB himself.  Both are talented and capable.

    As far as bars are concerned, I like the Houndstooth.  I also like Buffalo Phil's, but that is more like a restaurant.  I like Buffalo Phils cuz I know a hot little waitress that works there.    Nevertheless, I'll be in T-town on Saturday rooting for the Tide.

     

    hey dude im from t town u meant Buffalo Wild Wings right
     
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    man when i tell u this town will be rocking saturday since the storm its like everybody has came together helping each other the spirit is crazy around here but anyways i think bama covers this spread more off the defense when i say that i mean turnovers thar aj in good field position

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    man when i tell u this town will be rocking saturday since the storm its like everybody has came together helping each other the spirit is crazy around here but anyways i think bama covers this spread more off the defense when i say that i mean turnovers thar aj in good field position

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:



    I actually had Alabama going into NC against Oklahoma. Still could happen, but I'm not impressed by Alabama's offense. I actually think Alabama vs Florida will be similar to last year's score ( assuming bama is at home) and the game against LSU will go waaay under. I just can't see the offense score much against either defenses.


    You do realize who UF has on staff now compared to last year right?
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    I actually had Alabama going into NC against Oklahoma. Still could happen, but I'm not impressed by Alabama's offense. I actually think Alabama vs Florida will be similar to last year's score ( assuming bama is at home) and the game against LSU will go waaay under. I just can't see the offense score much against either defenses.


    You do realize who UF has on staff now compared to last year right?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shacorie:

    hey dude im from t town u meant Buffalo Wild Wings right


    Nah, Phils is right on the strip next to Galettes..


    I might be in Town for this game as well

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    hey dude im from t town u meant Buffalo Wild Wings right


    Nah, Phils is right on the strip next to Galettes..


    I might be in Town for this game as well

     
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    Great arguments from both sides... Nice points being made...  Personally I am tired of the same one I am probably going to hear every week. Stack the box and make AJ win the game, blah blah, blah... Really? Arkansas isn't going to stack the box the entire game, and when they don't two of the best RB's in the nation are going to put up points. This won't be a QB battle determined by who makes the most mistakes, sorry....
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    Great arguments from both sides... Nice points being made...  Personally I am tired of the same one I am probably going to hear every week. Stack the box and make AJ win the game, blah blah, blah... Really? Arkansas isn't going to stack the box the entire game, and when they don't two of the best RB's in the nation are going to put up points. This won't be a QB battle determined by who makes the most mistakes, sorry....
     
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    Alabama has just not shown any sign of being able to put up points, I don't know what is going to be different. Arkansas defense has gotten better this year but that doesn't say much because they sat back in zone and got beat in games last year like a bunch of pussies. I am really not liking either side in this game right now because I don't know what either team really has yet… but when I watched North Texas giving Bama's offense problems, that was a little disturbing.
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    Alabama has just not shown any sign of being able to put up points, I don't know what is going to be different. Arkansas defense has gotten better this year but that doesn't say much because they sat back in zone and got beat in games last year like a bunch of pussies. I am really not liking either side in this game right now because I don't know what either team really has yet… but when I watched North Texas giving Bama's offense problems, that was a little disturbing.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Alabama has just not shown any sign of being able to put up points, I don't know what is going to be different. Arkansas defense has gotten better this year but that doesn't say much because they sat back in zone and got beat in games last year like a bunch of pussies. I am really not liking either side in this game right now because I don't know what either team really has yet… but when I watched North Texas giving Bama's offense problems, that was a little disturbing.

    It's called chemistry.... We were experimenting with combos in the offensive line, which effected their chemistry. We brought in Phill Simms, who effected the chemistry of the offense as a whole. 
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    Alabama has just not shown any sign of being able to put up points, I don't know what is going to be different. Arkansas defense has gotten better this year but that doesn't say much because they sat back in zone and got beat in games last year like a bunch of pussies. I am really not liking either side in this game right now because I don't know what either team really has yet… but when I watched North Texas giving Bama's offense problems, that was a little disturbing.

    It's called chemistry.... We were experimenting with combos in the offensive line, which effected their chemistry. We brought in Phill Simms, who effected the chemistry of the offense as a whole. 
     
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    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 

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    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfestreetgambler:

    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 


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    The blame for not "opening up the playbook" shouldnt be placed on the shoulders of McElwain.  It's Saban.  Playing conservative, not putting his QB in a position to make the big mistake, etc Thats his style.  Control the clock, establish the run and let his defense win/loss the games.  For example, look at his LSU teams vs the Florida State teams of the last 2 years.  Jimbo will open it up and loves to do so.  Saban handcuffs his coordinators and micromanages the game.  But its tough to complain or moan about it becaause it works. 


     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdslay:

    One more thing.

    We did struggle against Troy, kind of.  We were never in danger of losing that game.  2 of their 3 offensive scores were in the last minute of each half.

    1st one we were up 24-0 and they got a cheap TD with less than a minute left.

    2nd one, they scored at the very end of the game after it was clearly decided.  

    It should be a good game this weekend.   

    There it is!  Knew there was a reason for the homer philosophy.

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    One more thing.

    We did struggle against Troy, kind of.  We were never in danger of losing that game.  2 of their 3 offensive scores were in the last minute of each half.

    1st one we were up 24-0 and they got a cheap TD with less than a minute left.

    2nd one, they scored at the very end of the game after it was clearly decided.  

    It should be a good game this weekend.   

    There it is!  Knew there was a reason for the homer philosophy.

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