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    Who will be preseason top 5 next year?

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    Osirus13
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 1:58 PM ET #1

    Obviously we dont know exactly who will be gone and some new recruits havnt signed yet. Im hearing louisville and indiana have everyone returning. Kentucky will have there usual top 5 status im sure. Thoughts?
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    Obviously we dont know exactly who will be gone and some new recruits havnt signed yet. Im hearing louisville and indiana have everyone returning. Kentucky will have there usual top 5 status im sure. Thoughts?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 2:08 PM ET #2

    Kentucky, Louisville, Indiana, Ohio State (probably depends on Thomas), Florida (Beal/Boynton).

    Sleepers VCU, Memphis
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    Kentucky, Louisville, Indiana, Ohio State (probably depends on Thomas), Florida (Beal/Boynton).

    Sleepers VCU, Memphis
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 2:10 PM ET #3

    Yeah ohio st should be good but sullinger isnt easy to replace. Forgot about vcu
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    Yeah ohio st should be good but sullinger isnt easy to replace. Forgot about vcu
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 2:39 PM ET #4

    Memphis definitely top 10 next year.  They finished as good as anyone down the stretch.  Didn't win a tourney game but were up against a very worthy opponent in St. Louis and drastic coaching mismatch.  I haven't been up on UK recruiting but I know they have their usual suspects of top talent coming in.  I just can't see them losing everyone I anticipate them losing and being top 5 again.  They could lose 4 starters and the team's 6th man, one being the POY...

    They're naturally gonna be right there like always with the new crop of kids.  But 5th would be best IMO

    I don't see OSU being top 5 without Sullinger unless their current rotation gets worlds better.  Look at them against elite competition down the stretch.  They struggled to score unless they were raining 3s late in the year.  Had they not shot so well against Kansas early on that game might've been pretty ugly

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    Memphis definitely top 10 next year.  They finished as good as anyone down the stretch.  Didn't win a tourney game but were up against a very worthy opponent in St. Louis and drastic coaching mismatch.  I haven't been up on UK recruiting but I know they have their usual suspects of top talent coming in.  I just can't see them losing everyone I anticipate them losing and being top 5 again.  They could lose 4 starters and the team's 6th man, one being the POY...

    They're naturally gonna be right there like always with the new crop of kids.  But 5th would be best IMO

    I don't see OSU being top 5 without Sullinger unless their current rotation gets worlds better.  Look at them against elite competition down the stretch.  They struggled to score unless they were raining 3s late in the year.  Had they not shot so well against Kansas early on that game might've been pretty ugly

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 6:44 PM ET #5

    missouri?
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    missouri?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by krh7:

    missouri?

    don't they lose about everyone?  IF PJIII stays Baylor will be somewhere  in the top 10 i believe bc everyone except Acy, Ant. Jones, and Fred Ellis will return..Acy is hard to replace and they need to play tougher but that team will be in tact if Perry Jones doesn't leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krh7:

    missouri?

    don't they lose about everyone?  IF PJIII stays Baylor will be somewhere  in the top 10 i believe bc everyone except Acy, Ant. Jones, and Fred Ellis will return..Acy is hard to replace and they need to play tougher but that team will be in tact if Perry Jones doesn't leave.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 8:22 PM ET #7

    baylor should be a 1 seed next year????????? nc st no worse than a 3 or 4 seed?????????????????
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    baylor should be a 1 seed next year????????? nc st no worse than a 3 or 4 seed?????????????????
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerDabu:

    don't they lose about everyone?  IF PJIII stays Baylor will be somewhere  in the top 10 i believe bc everyone except Acy, Ant. Jones, and Fred Ellis will return..Acy is hard to replace and they need to play tougher but that team will be in tact if Perry Jones doesn't leave.

    not that hard to replace when you get 3 top 25 in espn 100? they got 2 atleast i think 3 though coming in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerDabu:

    don't they lose about everyone?  IF PJIII stays Baylor will be somewhere  in the top 10 i believe bc everyone except Acy, Ant. Jones, and Fred Ellis will return..Acy is hard to replace and they need to play tougher but that team will be in tact if Perry Jones doesn't leave.

    not that hard to replace when you get 3 top 25 in espn 100? they got 2 atleast i think 3 though coming in?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 8:30 PM ET #9

    Men

    Lehigh

    Texas Tech

    UNC-Ashville

    Albany

    UT-Chattanooga

     

    lol

     

     

     

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    Men

    Lehigh

    Texas Tech

    UNC-Ashville

    Albany

    UT-Chattanooga

     

    lol

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 9:05 PM ET #10

    VCU will not be ranked in the preseason top 5.
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    VCU will not be ranked in the preseason top 5.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 9:18 PM ET #11

    It's hard to say. What team actually has good players that will come back? I'm sure Kentucky will load up again with a bunch of one and done superstars.
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    It's hard to say. What team actually has good players that will come back? I'm sure Kentucky will load up again with a bunch of one and done superstars.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2012 - 10:22 PM ET #12

    louisville

    duke

    kentucky

    indiana

    florida

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    louisville

    duke

    kentucky

    indiana

    florida

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2012 - 4:23 AM ET #13

    this is espn top 25 for next year as of day after national title 2012 game

    1. Indiana

    Surprised? Putting Indiana No. 1 isn't a reach, and it speaks volumes about how far Tom Crean has brought the Hoosiers. There was legitimate grumbling in the Hoosier Nation a year ago, wondering whether the rebuilding was taking too long. Well, IU had two of the more significant wins of the 2011-12 regular season and then reached the Sweet 16, where it pushed Kentucky as well as any team. Cody Zeller has to stay put for Indiana to remain No. 1 of course. But if Zeller is back, the Hoosiers -- with nearly everyone returning and joined by another elite recruiting class -- will be right there in the running for a national title.

    2. Louisville

    The Cardinals reached the Final Four despite a number of injuries and eligibility issues. They showed tremendous resolve and were a terrific team at home. Rick Pitino couldn't be too upset over the loss to Kentucky because he knows this team can be right back here next season. Can you imagine if Indiana and Louisville, near neighbors, are 1 and 2? Could happen. Peyton Siva should be Big East preseason player of the year and UL is only losing Kyle Kuric and Chris Smith. Plus, Wayne Blackshaer will be around for a whole season.

    3. Kansas

    The Jayhawks are projected to lose Thomas Robinson, and they will lose Tyshawn Taylor. But have we learned our lesson not to dismiss anything Bill Self does with this program? Kansas might lose Jeff Withey, but don't be surprised if he stays with more touches coming his way. Newcomers Perry Ellis and Ben McLemore will be instant studs. Kansas isn't going anywhere.

    4. Kentucky

    The Wildcats likely will lose Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, and maybe Doron Lamb and Marquis Teague. One or two might stay. Darius Miller also is gone, and he was one of the best glue guys in the country. But don't think for a second that the Wildcats will dip much at all. The additions of Ryan Harrow, Archie Goodwin, Alex Poythress and Willie Cauley will keep Kentucky near the top again. And just think if Kentucky were to land Nerlens Noel and/or Shabazz Muhammad? If that occurs, don't be surprised to see Kentucky open up at No. 1 in the fall.

    5. Ohio State

    The Buckeyes have never disappointed under Thad Matta. This team is a consistent winner that is always near or at the top of the Big Ten and in title contention. Next season won't be any different. Jared Sullinger promised Matta two seasons so he could easily depart for the NBA. But should he after the national semifinal? Maybe not. The Buckeyes still have Aaron Craft, and Lenzelle Smith Jr. and LaQuinton Ross are going to be studs. Deshaun Thomas should be back, too. If he does return, this team will be in the thick of the title race.

    6. NC State

    How did this happen so fast? Is North Carolina State really the ACC favorite? Why not. North Carolina and Duke are taking on serious losses, and the Wolfpack overachieved under Mark Gottfried (and top assistant Bobby Lutz) to get to the Sweet 16. If the Wolfpack don't get too giddy about leaving (will C.J. Leslie remain?), they should be the favorite in the conference. Gottfried has one of the top recruiting classes in the country with Rodney Purvis, T.J. Warren and Tyler Lewis. So get ready, Raleigh. You might just have the ACC favorite.

    7. Michigan State

    The Spartans lose Big Ten player of the year Draymond Green, Brandon Wood and Austin Thornton. But don't ever dismiss a Tom Izzo-coached team. Branden Dawson will be back, and so will Travis Trice. The Spartans don't ever lack for talent and a top-10 freshmen class is on the way. And if you think Michigan State is going to slide under Izzo, you haven't been following the program.

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    this is espn top 25 for next year as of day after national title 2012 game

    1. Indiana

    Surprised? Putting Indiana No. 1 isn't a reach, and it speaks volumes about how far Tom Crean has brought the Hoosiers. There was legitimate grumbling in the Hoosier Nation a year ago, wondering whether the rebuilding was taking too long. Well, IU had two of the more significant wins of the 2011-12 regular season and then reached the Sweet 16, where it pushed Kentucky as well as any team. Cody Zeller has to stay put for Indiana to remain No. 1 of course. But if Zeller is back, the Hoosiers -- with nearly everyone returning and joined by another elite recruiting class -- will be right there in the running for a national title.

    2. Louisville

    The Cardinals reached the Final Four despite a number of injuries and eligibility issues. They showed tremendous resolve and were a terrific team at home. Rick Pitino couldn't be too upset over the loss to Kentucky because he knows this team can be right back here next season. Can you imagine if Indiana and Louisville, near neighbors, are 1 and 2? Could happen. Peyton Siva should be Big East preseason player of the year and UL is only losing Kyle Kuric and Chris Smith. Plus, Wayne Blackshaer will be around for a whole season.

    3. Kansas

    The Jayhawks are projected to lose Thomas Robinson, and they will lose Tyshawn Taylor. But have we learned our lesson not to dismiss anything Bill Self does with this program? Kansas might lose Jeff Withey, but don't be surprised if he stays with more touches coming his way. Newcomers Perry Ellis and Ben McLemore will be instant studs. Kansas isn't going anywhere.

    4. Kentucky

    The Wildcats likely will lose Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, and maybe Doron Lamb and Marquis Teague. One or two might stay. Darius Miller also is gone, and he was one of the best glue guys in the country. But don't think for a second that the Wildcats will dip much at all. The additions of Ryan Harrow, Archie Goodwin, Alex Poythress and Willie Cauley will keep Kentucky near the top again. And just think if Kentucky were to land Nerlens Noel and/or Shabazz Muhammad? If that occurs, don't be surprised to see Kentucky open up at No. 1 in the fall.

    5. Ohio State

    The Buckeyes have never disappointed under Thad Matta. This team is a consistent winner that is always near or at the top of the Big Ten and in title contention. Next season won't be any different. Jared Sullinger promised Matta two seasons so he could easily depart for the NBA. But should he after the national semifinal? Maybe not. The Buckeyes still have Aaron Craft, and Lenzelle Smith Jr. and LaQuinton Ross are going to be studs. Deshaun Thomas should be back, too. If he does return, this team will be in the thick of the title race.

    6. NC State

    How did this happen so fast? Is North Carolina State really the ACC favorite? Why not. North Carolina and Duke are taking on serious losses, and the Wolfpack overachieved under Mark Gottfried (and top assistant Bobby Lutz) to get to the Sweet 16. If the Wolfpack don't get too giddy about leaving (will C.J. Leslie remain?), they should be the favorite in the conference. Gottfried has one of the top recruiting classes in the country with Rodney Purvis, T.J. Warren and Tyler Lewis. So get ready, Raleigh. You might just have the ACC favorite.

    7. Michigan State

    The Spartans lose Big Ten player of the year Draymond Green, Brandon Wood and Austin Thornton. But don't ever dismiss a Tom Izzo-coached team. Branden Dawson will be back, and so will Travis Trice. The Spartans don't ever lack for talent and a top-10 freshmen class is on the way. And if you think Michigan State is going to slide under Izzo, you haven't been following the program.

     
     
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    8. Michigan

    The Wolverines will be in the top 10 if Trey Burke returns to school. He should. He would join freshman stud Mitch McGary and Tim Hardaway Jr., and a loaded class that also includes ESPNU 100 recruits Glenn Robinson Jr., and Nik Stauskas. The Wolverines have had a few defections, and that has disrupted a bit of their flow. But John Beilein has figured out the Big Ten, so Michigan will once again be in the mix.

    9. Florida

    The Gators have a real shot to be an SEC title contender if Bradley Beal decides to stay put. Patric Young has only scratched the surface of his potential. Losing Erving Walker and his quick shooting might not be such a horrible thing. Kenny Boynton played deep into March two years in a row and should lead this squad. Erik Murphy is maturing and has improved his game. Recruiting is going well as always for the Gators. This program had a minor dip post-2007 but that is clearly no longer an issue.

    10. Baylor

    The Bears definitely will lose Quincy Acy. But what would happen if Baylor didn't lose Perry Jones III and/or Quincy Miller? This team would be in contention for No. 1. It's unlikely they'll retain both, but Pierre Jackson and Brady Heslip should form one of the top backcourts in the country. And the Bears continue to recruit as well as any school. Adding Isaiah Austin is huge. Baylor has become a consistent Big 12 title contender with Kansas and that doesn't appear to be ending.

    11. North Carolina

    The Tar Heels were gutted by early-entry departures from Kendall Marshall, Harrison Barnes and John Henson. Tyler Zeller was already leaving because he was a senior. But that just opens more minutes for Dexter Strickland, Leslie McDonald, P.J. Hairston, Reggie Bullock and James Michael McAdoo, assuming he returns to Chapel Hill. Marcus Paige and Brice Johnson will step in and deepen this team. Let's not kid ourselves: There's still plenty of talent on hand. The Tar Heels won't be the favorite in the ACC, though, and for UNC that might feel a bit odd.

    12. Arizona

    The Wildcats had to deal with a number of issues this season from injuries to attrition, but they were still close to mounting a Pac-12 regular-season title challenge and made the NIT. Arizona should lean heavily on Solomon Hill as a lead returnee (along with Kevin Parrom's return), but this will be a team heavy on newcomers. The recruiting class is currently ranked No. 1 in the country by ESPN, with Kaleb Tarczewski, Grant Jerrett, Brandon Ashley and Gabe York heading to Tucson. This team will be young in November but should make its mark in March.

    13. Memphis

    The Tigers are losing Will Barton, but don't dismiss this team one bit. Memphis was on a roll before landing a bad matchup with Saint Louis in the NCAA tournament. The Tigers didn't get much national buzz in large part because they were in Conference USA and didn't have many stellar nonconference wins. But sleeping on Josh Pastner's crew would be a mistake. The final season of C-USA for Memphis should end in yet another conference title. The Big East beckons, and Memphis will be in the mix once it arrives there as well.

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    8. Michigan

    The Wolverines will be in the top 10 if Trey Burke returns to school. He should. He would join freshman stud Mitch McGary and Tim Hardaway Jr., and a loaded class that also includes ESPNU 100 recruits Glenn Robinson Jr., and Nik Stauskas. The Wolverines have had a few defections, and that has disrupted a bit of their flow. But John Beilein has figured out the Big Ten, so Michigan will once again be in the mix.

    9. Florida

    The Gators have a real shot to be an SEC title contender if Bradley Beal decides to stay put. Patric Young has only scratched the surface of his potential. Losing Erving Walker and his quick shooting might not be such a horrible thing. Kenny Boynton played deep into March two years in a row and should lead this squad. Erik Murphy is maturing and has improved his game. Recruiting is going well as always for the Gators. This program had a minor dip post-2007 but that is clearly no longer an issue.

    10. Baylor

    The Bears definitely will lose Quincy Acy. But what would happen if Baylor didn't lose Perry Jones III and/or Quincy Miller? This team would be in contention for No. 1. It's unlikely they'll retain both, but Pierre Jackson and Brady Heslip should form one of the top backcourts in the country. And the Bears continue to recruit as well as any school. Adding Isaiah Austin is huge. Baylor has become a consistent Big 12 title contender with Kansas and that doesn't appear to be ending.

    11. North Carolina

    The Tar Heels were gutted by early-entry departures from Kendall Marshall, Harrison Barnes and John Henson. Tyler Zeller was already leaving because he was a senior. But that just opens more minutes for Dexter Strickland, Leslie McDonald, P.J. Hairston, Reggie Bullock and James Michael McAdoo, assuming he returns to Chapel Hill. Marcus Paige and Brice Johnson will step in and deepen this team. Let's not kid ourselves: There's still plenty of talent on hand. The Tar Heels won't be the favorite in the ACC, though, and for UNC that might feel a bit odd.

    12. Arizona

    The Wildcats had to deal with a number of issues this season from injuries to attrition, but they were still close to mounting a Pac-12 regular-season title challenge and made the NIT. Arizona should lean heavily on Solomon Hill as a lead returnee (along with Kevin Parrom's return), but this will be a team heavy on newcomers. The recruiting class is currently ranked No. 1 in the country by ESPN, with Kaleb Tarczewski, Grant Jerrett, Brandon Ashley and Gabe York heading to Tucson. This team will be young in November but should make its mark in March.

    13. Memphis

    The Tigers are losing Will Barton, but don't dismiss this team one bit. Memphis was on a roll before landing a bad matchup with Saint Louis in the NCAA tournament. The Tigers didn't get much national buzz in large part because they were in Conference USA and didn't have many stellar nonconference wins. But sleeping on Josh Pastner's crew would be a mistake. The final season of C-USA for Memphis should end in yet another conference title. The Big East beckons, and Memphis will be in the mix once it arrives there as well.

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