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    UNC v. FSU

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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:06 PM ET #1

    North Carolina v. Florida State, Tallahassee, Florida, 7 et.

    Posted Plays: 2-1 (66%)

    Opening Line: FSU -1/143 Current UNC -1/143

    Analysis: UNC comes into this game very hot, having won and covered in six consecutive games. Recently, they just beat Notre Dame on the road as 1.5 point favs and then also at home against Pitt has 3 point favs. FSU on the other hand has really been struggling losing two out of there last three and only covering in a win at Wake Forest, while losing to Miami and Maryland. However, I do believe that FSU holds some value tonight against UNC. You do not always get each team’s best game every time out, and tonight I believe you see a very average UNC team. As far as spots go, I believe FSU holds some value tonight. Here are the reasons why:

    1.       Sandwich game for UNC. After a big win at home against Pitt in a very hard fought physical game, you go to FSU, and then have Duke at home on deck. Something tells me UNC might be thinking about their biggest rivals more than FSU. Also UNC already had to game plan for Duke because the game was supposed to be played last week and got cancelled. Are they thinking about FSU tonight or Duke? I am guessing Duke, and there might be some emotional let down from the win against Pitt.

    2.       Roy Williams. He continues to underachieve with as much talent as anyone in the country. I think a lot of getting up for games or being ready to play has to do with the coach. I just cannot trust him here. Ex. UNC already having losses to Belmont, UAB, and Wake. Roy finds to lose to superior teams, and I do not even believe that FSU is that inferior.

    3.       Matchups. UNC has to get as close to the hoop as possible to score. The only real threat they have on their team from outside is Page. No one else on the team shoots it above 30%, and really he is the only one that really looks for his outside. UNC will beat you by second chance points and driving in the lane. FSU is an absolutely huge team, tall as hell. UNC is going to have a tough time scoring over them down low, and offensive rebounding against them. Sometimes tells me that UNC offense looks pretty bad tonight because FSU can just pack it in. McAdoo and Johnson are beats, but FSU has got a 7’2 man and some big boys whose names I can never remember coming off the bench. So you got a team that is going to pound the ball inside against the 2nd best defense in the NCAA? Sign me up.

    4.       UNC defense. Roy Willaims isn’t a defensive minded coach. Look at previous seasons and this season, their defense is okay, but never great. This works out perfectly for a matchup against an FSU that struggles to score the basketball.

    5.       UNC free throw shooting. McAdoo and Johnson are bad from the line. A predicted close game here tonight and you are telling that two of the more important players from one team that are going to the line are going to miss. Ill take those free points.

    6.       Line -1? Really with UNC covering 6 in a row and looking pretty damn good doing it and FSU struggling in their last 6 games, the books came out with this short of a line. Covers  has 66% of the public on UNC, and the books had to know that they would be a public darling here. Yet by creating such a short line here, I believe the books want UNC money here because it will end up being a lost.

    7.       FSU protects their home court. Over the years you have seen many times that Hamiliton team upset a Duke or UNC or another good team at home. He protects his home court with their defense.

     

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    North Carolina v. Florida State, Tallahassee, Florida, 7 et.

    Posted Plays: 2-1 (66%)

    Opening Line: FSU -1/143 Current UNC -1/143

    Analysis: UNC comes into this game very hot, having won and covered in six consecutive games. Recently, they just beat Notre Dame on the road as 1.5 point favs and then also at home against Pitt has 3 point favs. FSU on the other hand has really been struggling losing two out of there last three and only covering in a win at Wake Forest, while losing to Miami and Maryland. However, I do believe that FSU holds some value tonight against UNC. You do not always get each team’s best game every time out, and tonight I believe you see a very average UNC team. As far as spots go, I believe FSU holds some value tonight. Here are the reasons why:

    1.       Sandwich game for UNC. After a big win at home against Pitt in a very hard fought physical game, you go to FSU, and then have Duke at home on deck. Something tells me UNC might be thinking about their biggest rivals more than FSU. Also UNC already had to game plan for Duke because the game was supposed to be played last week and got cancelled. Are they thinking about FSU tonight or Duke? I am guessing Duke, and there might be some emotional let down from the win against Pitt.

    2.       Roy Williams. He continues to underachieve with as much talent as anyone in the country. I think a lot of getting up for games or being ready to play has to do with the coach. I just cannot trust him here. Ex. UNC already having losses to Belmont, UAB, and Wake. Roy finds to lose to superior teams, and I do not even believe that FSU is that inferior.

    3.       Matchups. UNC has to get as close to the hoop as possible to score. The only real threat they have on their team from outside is Page. No one else on the team shoots it above 30%, and really he is the only one that really looks for his outside. UNC will beat you by second chance points and driving in the lane. FSU is an absolutely huge team, tall as hell. UNC is going to have a tough time scoring over them down low, and offensive rebounding against them. Sometimes tells me that UNC offense looks pretty bad tonight because FSU can just pack it in. McAdoo and Johnson are beats, but FSU has got a 7’2 man and some big boys whose names I can never remember coming off the bench. So you got a team that is going to pound the ball inside against the 2nd best defense in the NCAA? Sign me up.

    4.       UNC defense. Roy Willaims isn’t a defensive minded coach. Look at previous seasons and this season, their defense is okay, but never great. This works out perfectly for a matchup against an FSU that struggles to score the basketball.

    5.       UNC free throw shooting. McAdoo and Johnson are bad from the line. A predicted close game here tonight and you are telling that two of the more important players from one team that are going to the line are going to miss. Ill take those free points.

    6.       Line -1? Really with UNC covering 6 in a row and looking pretty damn good doing it and FSU struggling in their last 6 games, the books came out with this short of a line. Covers  has 66% of the public on UNC, and the books had to know that they would be a public darling here. Yet by creating such a short line here, I believe the books want UNC money here because it will end up being a lost.

    7.       FSU protects their home court. Over the years you have seen many times that Hamiliton team upset a Duke or UNC or another good team at home. He protects his home court with their defense.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:06 PM ET #2

    Concerns:

    1.       UNC focus. If UNC comes out and plays like they have been, they are the more talented and better basketball team. If they play their better ball, they should prevail.

    2.       FSU scoring. I believe that the defense will be there tonight for FSU for sure. They need to score to win the game though, and that is going to be the question.  

    PICK: FSU +1

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    Concerns:

    1.       UNC focus. If UNC comes out and plays like they have been, they are the more talented and better basketball team. If they play their better ball, they should prevail.

    2.       FSU scoring. I believe that the defense will be there tonight for FSU for sure. They need to score to win the game though, and that is going to be the question.  

    PICK: FSU +1

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:06 PM ET #3

    Oklahoma State v. Baylor, Wacko, Texas, 8 cent.

    Opening Line: Bayl. -4.5/142.5 Current Bayl. -5.5/143.5

    Analysis:  Oklahoma State has really been struggling over the past 6 games, and some would argue it is because of Smart absence. However, I believe the key loss here was Cobbins who suffered a season ending injury. He was in the middle for them and a great player that brought scoring and size. Oklahoma St. is struggling no doubt, but I do think they hold some advantages in this game against Baylor. Baylor comes in off a 2OT game which they had no business of covering on Saturday. Tried legs on the short rest, or momentum for another team who has been really having a hard time. Difficult to say, but Baylor is the one team in the Big 12 that has been using some kind of a matchup zone. This defense is very uncommon in the Big 12, and may cause fits for OKSU, or might get their shooters open. OKSU offense has not looked all that bad without Smart, so maybe tonight playing for revenge from a 76-70 lost they suffered early in the season may bring them some energy.

    Baylor on the other hand I have watched a number of times and just cannot figure them out. They should hold a nice size advantage tonight with Jefferson and Austin, but those two always seem to settle for jump shots. They never really use that size to their advantage at all. Cherry appears to be back and healthy again with is a huge boost for Baylor from the PG position. Their defense at times looks lost, and same with their offense. Just can’t trust them here, but could say the same thing with OSU.

    To many variables in this game for me, going to stay away.

    Delaware v. Towson-    

    No time for analysis, but revenge, plus lost players, plus stud big man, plus two game conference lead, plus on interior.

    Sign me up

    Pick: Towson -3

     

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    Oklahoma State v. Baylor, Wacko, Texas, 8 cent.

    Opening Line: Bayl. -4.5/142.5 Current Bayl. -5.5/143.5

    Analysis:  Oklahoma State has really been struggling over the past 6 games, and some would argue it is because of Smart absence. However, I believe the key loss here was Cobbins who suffered a season ending injury. He was in the middle for them and a great player that brought scoring and size. Oklahoma St. is struggling no doubt, but I do think they hold some advantages in this game against Baylor. Baylor comes in off a 2OT game which they had no business of covering on Saturday. Tried legs on the short rest, or momentum for another team who has been really having a hard time. Difficult to say, but Baylor is the one team in the Big 12 that has been using some kind of a matchup zone. This defense is very uncommon in the Big 12, and may cause fits for OKSU, or might get their shooters open. OKSU offense has not looked all that bad without Smart, so maybe tonight playing for revenge from a 76-70 lost they suffered early in the season may bring them some energy.

    Baylor on the other hand I have watched a number of times and just cannot figure them out. They should hold a nice size advantage tonight with Jefferson and Austin, but those two always seem to settle for jump shots. They never really use that size to their advantage at all. Cherry appears to be back and healthy again with is a huge boost for Baylor from the PG position. Their defense at times looks lost, and same with their offense. Just can’t trust them here, but could say the same thing with OSU.

    To many variables in this game for me, going to stay away.

    Delaware v. Towson-    

    No time for analysis, but revenge, plus lost players, plus stud big man, plus two game conference lead, plus on interior.

    Sign me up

    Pick: Towson -3

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:10 PM ET #5

    UNC 
    Deleware +3

    Sorry bro aint gonna happen today
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    UNC 
    Deleware +3

    Sorry bro aint gonna happen today
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:13 PM ET #6

    BAYLOR IS ABANDONING THE AFOREMENTIONED ZONE TONIGHT BRO

    Coach, if you trust what he said on Baylor website, they are going to man and another defensive set that eludes me.

    GL BRO

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    BAYLOR IS ABANDONING THE AFOREMENTIONED ZONE TONIGHT BRO

    Coach, if you trust what he said on Baylor website, they are going to man and another defensive set that eludes me.

    GL BRO

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:16 PM ET #7

    You have not been watching FSU play if you honestly think they aren't that inferior to UNC. Also, you mention something about FSU protecting their home court over the years. Trust me when i tell you that this is probably the worst FSU team in 15 + years. Useless stats and angles. FSU could win if UNC takes the night off or just had an off shooting night but that's really only way they win IMO. Definitely understand where you are coming from though
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    You have not been watching FSU play if you honestly think they aren't that inferior to UNC. Also, you mention something about FSU protecting their home court over the years. Trust me when i tell you that this is probably the worst FSU team in 15 + years. Useless stats and angles. FSU could win if UNC takes the night off or just had an off shooting night but that's really only way they win IMO. Definitely understand where you are coming from though
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:19 PM ET #8

    Same side with the noles. How bout a "sharp" bet hits for once. Tired of these squares winning more than not
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    Same side with the noles. How bout a "sharp" bet hits for once. Tired of these squares winning more than not
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Same side with the noles. How bout a "sharp" bet hits for once. Tired of these squares winning more than not

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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Same side with the noles. How bout a "sharp" bet hits for once. Tired of these squares winning more than not

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:26 PM ET #10

    camby- hadn't read that yet about Baylor getting rid of the zone. Don't really know what the means for tonight's game though.

    vegasvandal- no doubt FSU is down. but UNC going up against size, on the road, with Duke on deck. To much value for me even if UNC runs them out of the gym.

    Thanks for the insight.

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    camby- hadn't read that yet about Baylor getting rid of the zone. Don't really know what the means for tonight's game though.

    vegasvandal- no doubt FSU is down. but UNC going up against size, on the road, with Duke on deck. To much value for me even if UNC runs them out of the gym.

    Thanks for the insight.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:26 PM ET #11

    Yea camby the squarefest of hits lately has been sickening... Sharp plays of Clemson +4.5, Pittsburgh+3.5, Kentucky-2 all losers lol it's a joke these squares dominating for so long.
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    Yea camby the squarefest of hits lately has been sickening... Sharp plays of Clemson +4.5, Pittsburgh+3.5, Kentucky-2 all losers lol it's a joke these squares dominating for so long.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:32 PM ET #12

    UNC -1
    Baylor- 5.5
    towson -3
    Idaho State +4
     
    GL to you! 
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    UNC -1
    Baylor- 5.5
    towson -3
    Idaho State +4
     
    GL to you! 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2014 - 6:35 PM ET #13

    Solid analysis.  Good luck tonight! 
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    Solid analysis.  Good luck tonight! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Yea camby the squarefest of hits lately has been sickening... Sharp plays of Clemson +4.5, Pittsburgh+3.5, Kentucky-2 all losers lol it's a joke these squares dominating for so long.

    MY LOCAL adjusts the lines in accordance with what the SHARPS are betting and hes been getting lucky for sure. The PITT game was fkn ridiculous. I had Florida and the Clemson game I laid off but would of taken them at home...JUST SICKENING LATELY

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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Yea camby the squarefest of hits lately has been sickening... Sharp plays of Clemson +4.5, Pittsburgh+3.5, Kentucky-2 all losers lol it's a joke these squares dominating for so long.

    MY LOCAL adjusts the lines in accordance with what the SHARPS are betting and hes been getting lucky for sure. The PITT game was fkn ridiculous. I had Florida and the Clemson game I laid off but would of taken them at home...JUST SICKENING LATELY

     
     
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