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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2011 - 2:56 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    Except I think that IPFW has shown us their real identity as they have played slow teams already as well as medium to fast type teams also already. But Dartmouth seems to have not shown us their true identity just yet I have absolutely no faith in believing that Dartmouth is a good defense ball club based on their schedule alone...
    Slow offense, yes. Good defense, not a believer...
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    Except I think that IPFW has shown us their real identity as they have played slow teams already as well as medium to fast type teams also already. But Dartmouth seems to have not shown us their true identity just yet I have absolutely no faith in believing that Dartmouth is a good defense ball club based on their schedule alone...
    Slow offense, yes. Good defense, not a believer...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2011 - 3:00 AM ET #27

    GL Odds! Keep up the good work.....great write-ups.  Grew up in Sandusky myself.
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    GL Odds! Keep up the good work.....great write-ups.  Grew up in Sandusky myself.
     
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    Good Luck ODDS!! 
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2011 - 5:43 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    1st play is:

    Dartmouth@IUPU - Ft. Wayne over 136.5 for 20 units... It seems we have a situation here where a slow paced team meets the fast paced team. While Dartmouth is going to see many mid to 120's in their totals this season because of their 50.5 shots per game average IPFW is going to consistently see totals in the high 140's or even 150's as IPFW averages 63.5 shots per game. This is by far the fastest team Dartmouth has seen all season long as they have played against teams averaging 55.8, 52.1, 56, 53.1, 58.3, 56 & 54.5 shots per game. This is one of the main reasons you will see that Dartmouth is only allowing 62ppg on defense this season as their schedule has been a quite heavily in favor of slower to medium paced teams. Not to mention those teams that Dartmouth played are currently ranked in scoring offense as follows @ 175, 296, 266, 101, 209, 275 & 124. It's no wonder that Dartmouth is only allowing 62ppg against these numbers. IPFW comes into this game ranked 37th overall in scoring offense along with the already mentioned 63 and a half shots per game mentioned above. By far the fastest on highest scoring offense that Dartmouth as seen this year. It's also rather alarming that IPFW has allowed 5 of the 7 D-1 teams they have played this season to exceed their shot total per game average as here are their following opponents along with shot per game averages followed by the shots they attempted vs IPFW along with the score of the game.

    (@NEBO) avg 61.3spg had 73 shots (83-80ot)w
    (Valpo) avg 44.8spg had 57 shots (85-76)w
    (South Dakota) avg 54.6spg had 57 shots (92-87)w
    (UMKC) avg 53.5spg had 45 shots (66-81)L
    (@Iowa) avg 60.8 spg had 51 shots (72-82)L
    (@Xavier) avg 55.9spg had 57 shots (63-86)L
    (NEBO) avg 61.3spg had 65 shots (83-72)w

    So as we can see above IPFW games have had totals of the following: 163, 161, 179, 147, 154, 149 & 152 as the lowest total IPFWhas played to all season was 147. Hell IPFW has already handled the leagues 2nd to last shots per game team in Valpo as they average just 44.8 shots per game ranking 345th overall as that game totaled 161 surpassing the 130's by a long shot. I'm more than willing to wager that Dartmouth is going to have good looks as IPFW is allowing their opponents to shot an eye popping 50% from the field this season which is most certainly in direct relation to their style of play on offense. I'm throwing down right now on a hefty size bet that says the offense of IPFW gets the better of this game and controls this one to a game which exceeds only the 130's easily. It's no wonder with these results that the books have given us only one opportunity this season to wager on a total in a IPFW game...POD


    Went back and re-watched a large portion of the Dartmouth v. Notre Dame game and also the IUPU v. Lousville game.

    I really think you're on the right side with the over here for a couple of reasons.

    1. IUPU really likes to try to push the breaks and almost never truly sets up the half court (and even when they try it seems to be 1 pass and cut to the basket, then shoot or kick out). 

    2. Although Dartmouth may run a slower paced game, they still seem to be pretty aggressive on offense. They may make several passes in the half court, but still make some aggressive cuts to the basket... they just miss a lot. But that shouldn't be as much of a problem against IUPU's weaker defense, giving up over 55% FGs.

    And even more importantly to me, they play man almost exclusively on defense.  This really takes away their ability to control the pace of the game on defense, unlike some of the true snails out there that run a zone so they can force their opponents to make 3-5 passes on offense before they can get a shot up.

    In fact, it wouldn't totally blow me away to see some portions of the game that are back and forth non-stop, as Dartmouth showed a willingness to get out and run with Notre Dame on more than one occasion (they just ran out of gas in the second half).

    3. Both teams shoot FT's over 70%, that is always a big added bonus in these borderline total situations.

    For the record, the one thing I don't like about this game is the time of year.  I know all these kids love their sports, but it's really hard to stay focused with finals, graduation, holiday parties, etc etc.  And I think it does affect the smaller conference teams even more; so you can't totally overlook the possibility that one of these teams just comes out flat and shoots sub 25% for awhile.

    Hope this one works out though!

    Thanks for pointing us in the right direction constantly this week OD.
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    1st play is:

    Dartmouth@IUPU - Ft. Wayne over 136.5 for 20 units... It seems we have a situation here where a slow paced team meets the fast paced team. While Dartmouth is going to see many mid to 120's in their totals this season because of their 50.5 shots per game average IPFW is going to consistently see totals in the high 140's or even 150's as IPFW averages 63.5 shots per game. This is by far the fastest team Dartmouth has seen all season long as they have played against teams averaging 55.8, 52.1, 56, 53.1, 58.3, 56 & 54.5 shots per game. This is one of the main reasons you will see that Dartmouth is only allowing 62ppg on defense this season as their schedule has been a quite heavily in favor of slower to medium paced teams. Not to mention those teams that Dartmouth played are currently ranked in scoring offense as follows @ 175, 296, 266, 101, 209, 275 & 124. It's no wonder that Dartmouth is only allowing 62ppg against these numbers. IPFW comes into this game ranked 37th overall in scoring offense along with the already mentioned 63 and a half shots per game mentioned above. By far the fastest on highest scoring offense that Dartmouth as seen this year. It's also rather alarming that IPFW has allowed 5 of the 7 D-1 teams they have played this season to exceed their shot total per game average as here are their following opponents along with shot per game averages followed by the shots they attempted vs IPFW along with the score of the game.

    (@NEBO) avg 61.3spg had 73 shots (83-80ot)w
    (Valpo) avg 44.8spg had 57 shots (85-76)w
    (South Dakota) avg 54.6spg had 57 shots (92-87)w
    (UMKC) avg 53.5spg had 45 shots (66-81)L
    (@Iowa) avg 60.8 spg had 51 shots (72-82)L
    (@Xavier) avg 55.9spg had 57 shots (63-86)L
    (NEBO) avg 61.3spg had 65 shots (83-72)w

    So as we can see above IPFW games have had totals of the following: 163, 161, 179, 147, 154, 149 & 152 as the lowest total IPFWhas played to all season was 147. Hell IPFW has already handled the leagues 2nd to last shots per game team in Valpo as they average just 44.8 shots per game ranking 345th overall as that game totaled 161 surpassing the 130's by a long shot. I'm more than willing to wager that Dartmouth is going to have good looks as IPFW is allowing their opponents to shot an eye popping 50% from the field this season which is most certainly in direct relation to their style of play on offense. I'm throwing down right now on a hefty size bet that says the offense of IPFW gets the better of this game and controls this one to a game which exceeds only the 130's easily. It's no wonder with these results that the books have given us only one opportunity this season to wager on a total in a IPFW game...POD


    Went back and re-watched a large portion of the Dartmouth v. Notre Dame game and also the IUPU v. Lousville game.

    I really think you're on the right side with the over here for a couple of reasons.

    1. IUPU really likes to try to push the breaks and almost never truly sets up the half court (and even when they try it seems to be 1 pass and cut to the basket, then shoot or kick out). 

    2. Although Dartmouth may run a slower paced game, they still seem to be pretty aggressive on offense. They may make several passes in the half court, but still make some aggressive cuts to the basket... they just miss a lot. But that shouldn't be as much of a problem against IUPU's weaker defense, giving up over 55% FGs.

    And even more importantly to me, they play man almost exclusively on defense.  This really takes away their ability to control the pace of the game on defense, unlike some of the true snails out there that run a zone so they can force their opponents to make 3-5 passes on offense before they can get a shot up.

    In fact, it wouldn't totally blow me away to see some portions of the game that are back and forth non-stop, as Dartmouth showed a willingness to get out and run with Notre Dame on more than one occasion (they just ran out of gas in the second half).

    3. Both teams shoot FT's over 70%, that is always a big added bonus in these borderline total situations.

    For the record, the one thing I don't like about this game is the time of year.  I know all these kids love their sports, but it's really hard to stay focused with finals, graduation, holiday parties, etc etc.  And I think it does affect the smaller conference teams even more; so you can't totally overlook the possibility that one of these teams just comes out flat and shoots sub 25% for awhile.

    Hope this one works out though!

    Thanks for pointing us in the right direction constantly this week OD.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2011 - 5:49 AM ET #32

    kdawgy --> where you watch the old games @?


    Your insight is greatly appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    Except I think that IPFW has shown us their real identity as they have played slow teams already as well as medium to fast type teams also already. But Dartmouth seems to have not shown us their true identity just yet I have absolutely no faith in believing that Dartmouth is a good defense ball club based on their schedule alone...


    Dartmouth is NOT a stellar defensive team from what I saw in their two games I have watched (also supported by the fact that they've given up nearly 50% FG% versus D one schools).  They've just played some week teams and some of their games they were already being beaten pretty handily by the last 10 minutes.  And keep in mind, this last loss was against a Notre Dame team without Abromaitis...
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    Except I think that IPFW has shown us their real identity as they have played slow teams already as well as medium to fast type teams also already. But Dartmouth seems to have not shown us their true identity just yet I have absolutely no faith in believing that Dartmouth is a good defense ball club based on their schedule alone...


    Dartmouth is NOT a stellar defensive team from what I saw in their two games I have watched (also supported by the fact that they've given up nearly 50% FG% versus D one schools).  They've just played some week teams and some of their games they were already being beaten pretty handily by the last 10 minutes.  And keep in mind, this last loss was against a Notre Dame team without Abromaitis...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2011 - 6:04 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by CoverLane:

    kdawgy --> where you watch the old games @?


    Your insight is greatly appreciated



    It's actually pretty cool (and I think added this year) but if you go to espn's scoreboard and go backwards on the schedule it allows you to re-watch all of the games that were televised on any of espn's networks.  It's only about 20% of the games, but still really useful.

    Some of the individual schools also have the video feeds available for games that were broadcast on other networks.
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    kdawgy --> where you watch the old games @?


    Your insight is greatly appreciated



    It's actually pretty cool (and I think added this year) but if you go to espn's scoreboard and go backwards on the schedule it allows you to re-watch all of the games that were televised on any of espn's networks.  It's only about 20% of the games, but still really useful.

    Some of the individual schools also have the video feeds available for games that were broadcast on other networks.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2011 - 6:08 AM ET #35

    2nd play is:

    UC Irvine +16.5 for for 20 units... The Anteaters were 13-19 under 1st year head coach Russell Turner, as his up tempo offense generated a league best 75.3ppg last season in the Big West. It should also be noted that key victories last season over regular season champs Long Beach State and tourney champs UC Santa Barbara were quite the accomplishments for this first year head coach who spent 11 seasons as an assistant in the NCAA with many programs (Wake Forest & Stanford to name a couple) before he was the assistant at Golden State in the NBA (Now we know why he runs a fast paced offense) . Irvine will be hard up to repeat another 13 win season this year as they lost  their top 3 scorer's from last season as Darren Moore, Eric Wise & Patrick Rembert are no longer with the team. The top returning scorer and rebounder from last year is junior Mike Wilder (9.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg). Also returning thus year is junior guard Daman Starring, who transferred from Centenary College and started 30 games in 2010-11. Starring averaged 7.4 ppg and tied for second on the team with 30 steals, as he has filled in nicely so far this year in a year were Irvine has embraced 7 new freshman making this a very young team. As for Wyoming they are about to embark a venture into a game were they will be laying the 2nd largest number this year. I like this spot because this has number seems to be derived from Wyoming covering numbers up to this point against some questionable competition while Irvine has some rather tough opponents thus far up to this point losing to @Cal, Weber St & @Southern Miss. Irvine went 2-0-1ats in those 3 games. These 2 teams combined have beating the number 10 times already this season in just 14 attempts. So while both of these teams continue to beat the numbers with one winning games and the other losing games I value the point's in this contest as UC Irvine shoots the 3 ball very well at 37% and that is a big key against this Wyoming team who has been rather tough on defense this year. Irbine has nailed 58 long balls already this season as they have about 4-5 players that can hit the shot from behind the arc at a very successful rate. Last year Russell Turner devised a plan that was able to beat Wyoming by a score of 83-68 as 3 point favs so I have faith that I can get a valiant effort from his team once again with a plan that can keep this game within the suggested boat load of points we are able to snag (even with this younger than last year Anteater squad). This is just too many point's for Wyoming to handle and Irvine is not playing as bad as their record suggests...POD#2
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    UC Irvine +16.5 for for 20 units... The Anteaters were 13-19 under 1st year head coach Russell Turner, as his up tempo offense generated a league best 75.3ppg last season in the Big West. It should also be noted that key victories last season over regular season champs Long Beach State and tourney champs UC Santa Barbara were quite the accomplishments for this first year head coach who spent 11 seasons as an assistant in the NCAA with many programs (Wake Forest & Stanford to name a couple) before he was the assistant at Golden State in the NBA (Now we know why he runs a fast paced offense) . Irvine will be hard up to repeat another 13 win season this year as they lost  their top 3 scorer's from last season as Darren Moore, Eric Wise & Patrick Rembert are no longer with the team. The top returning scorer and rebounder from last year is junior Mike Wilder (9.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg). Also returning thus year is junior guard Daman Starring, who transferred from Centenary College and started 30 games in 2010-11. Starring averaged 7.4 ppg and tied for second on the team with 30 steals, as he has filled in nicely so far this year in a year were Irvine has embraced 7 new freshman making this a very young team. As for Wyoming they are about to embark a venture into a game were they will be laying the 2nd largest number this year. I like this spot because this has number seems to be derived from Wyoming covering numbers up to this point against some questionable competition while Irvine has some rather tough opponents thus far up to this point losing to @Cal, Weber St & @Southern Miss. Irvine went 2-0-1ats in those 3 games. These 2 teams combined have beating the number 10 times already this season in just 14 attempts. So while both of these teams continue to beat the numbers with one winning games and the other losing games I value the point's in this contest as UC Irvine shoots the 3 ball very well at 37% and that is a big key against this Wyoming team who has been rather tough on defense this year. Irbine has nailed 58 long balls already this season as they have about 4-5 players that can hit the shot from behind the arc at a very successful rate. Last year Russell Turner devised a plan that was able to beat Wyoming by a score of 83-68 as 3 point favs so I have faith that I can get a valiant effort from his team once again with a plan that can keep this game within the suggested boat load of points we are able to snag (even with this younger than last year Anteater squad). This is just too many point's for Wyoming to handle and Irvine is not playing as bad as their record suggests...POD#2
     
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    The card so far:

    Dartmouth@IUPU - Ft. Wayne over 136.5 for 20 units...POD
    UC Irvine +16.5 for for 20 units... POD#2
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    The card so far:

    Dartmouth@IUPU - Ft. Wayne over 136.5 for 20 units...POD
    UC Irvine +16.5 for for 20 units... POD#2
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdawgy:



    Went back and re-watched a large portion of the Dartmouth v. Notre Dame game and also the IUPU v. Lousville game.

    I really think you're on the right side with the over here for a couple of reasons.

    1. IUPU really likes to try to push the breaks and almost never truly sets up the half court (and even when they try it seems to be 1 pass and cut to the basket, then shoot or kick out). 

    2. Although Dartmouth may run a slower paced game, they still seem to be pretty aggressive on offense. They may make several passes in the half court, but still make some aggressive cuts to the basket... they just miss a lot. But that shouldn't be as much of a problem against IUPU's weaker defense, giving up over 55% FGs.

    And even more importantly to me, they play man almost exclusively on defense.  This really takes away their ability to control the pace of the game on defense, unlike some of the true snails out there that run a zone so they can force their opponents to make 3-5 passes on offense before they can get a shot up.

    In fact, it wouldn't totally blow me away to see some portions of the game that are back and forth non-stop, as Dartmouth showed a willingness to get out and run with Notre Dame on more than one occasion (they just ran out of gas in the second half).

    3. Both teams shoot FT's over 70%, that is always a big added bonus in these borderline total situations.

    For the record, the one thing I don't like about this game is the time of year.  I know all these kids love their sports, but it's really hard to stay focused with finals, graduation, holiday parties, etc etc.  And I think it does affect the smaller conference teams even more; so you can't totally overlook the possibility that one of these teams just comes out flat and shoots sub 25% for awhile.

    Hope this one works out though!

    Thanks for pointing us in the right direction constantly this week OD.
     Good stuff right here. 
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    Went back and re-watched a large portion of the Dartmouth v. Notre Dame game and also the IUPU v. Lousville game.

    I really think you're on the right side with the over here for a couple of reasons.

    1. IUPU really likes to try to push the breaks and almost never truly sets up the half court (and even when they try it seems to be 1 pass and cut to the basket, then shoot or kick out). 

    2. Although Dartmouth may run a slower paced game, they still seem to be pretty aggressive on offense. They may make several passes in the half court, but still make some aggressive cuts to the basket... they just miss a lot. But that shouldn't be as much of a problem against IUPU's weaker defense, giving up over 55% FGs.

    And even more importantly to me, they play man almost exclusively on defense.  This really takes away their ability to control the pace of the game on defense, unlike some of the true snails out there that run a zone so they can force their opponents to make 3-5 passes on offense before they can get a shot up.

    In fact, it wouldn't totally blow me away to see some portions of the game that are back and forth non-stop, as Dartmouth showed a willingness to get out and run with Notre Dame on more than one occasion (they just ran out of gas in the second half).

    3. Both teams shoot FT's over 70%, that is always a big added bonus in these borderline total situations.

    For the record, the one thing I don't like about this game is the time of year.  I know all these kids love their sports, but it's really hard to stay focused with finals, graduation, holiday parties, etc etc.  And I think it does affect the smaller conference teams even more; so you can't totally overlook the possibility that one of these teams just comes out flat and shoots sub 25% for awhile.

    Hope this one works out though!

    Thanks for pointing us in the right direction constantly this week OD.
     Good stuff right here. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

    2nd play is:

    UC Irvine +16.5 for for 20 units... The Anteaters were 13-19 under 1st year head coach Russell Turner, as his up tempo offense generated a league best 75.3ppg last season in the Big West. It should also be noted that key victories last season over regular season champs Long Beach State and tourney champs UC Santa Barbara were quite the accomplishments for this first year head coach who spent 11 seasons as an assistant in the NCAA with many programs (Wake Forest & Stanford to name a couple) before he was the assistant at Golden State in the NBA (Now we know why he runs a fast paced offense) . Irvine will be hard up to repeat another 13 win season this year as they lost  their top 3 scorer's from last season as Darren Moore, Eric Wise & Patrick Rembert are no longer with the team. The top returning scorer and rebounder from last year is junior Mike Wilder (9.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg). Also returning thus year is junior guard Daman Starring, who transferred from Centenary College and started 30 games in 2010-11. Starring averaged 7.4 ppg and tied for second on the team with 30 steals, as he has filled in nicely so far this year in a year were Irvine has embraced 7 new freshman making this a very young team. As for Wyoming they are about to embark a venture into a game were they will be laying the 2nd largest number this year. I like this spot because this has number seems to be derived from Wyoming covering numbers up to this point against some questionable competition while Irvine has some rather tough opponents thus far up to this point losing to @Cal, Weber St & @Southern Miss. Irvine went 2-0-1ats in those 3 games. These 2 teams combined have beating the number 10 times already this season in just 14 attempts. So while both of these teams continue to beat the numbers with one winning games and the other losing games I value the point's in this contest as UC Irvine shoots the 3 ball very well at 37% and that is a big key against this Wyoming team who has been rather tough on defense this year. Irbine has nailed 58 long balls already this season as they have about 4-5 players that can hit the shot from behind the arc at a very successful rate. Last year Russell Turner devised a plan that was able to beat Wyoming by a score of 83-68 as 3 point favs so I have faith that I can get a valiant effort from his team once again with a plan that can keep this game within the suggested boat load of points we are able to snag (even with this younger than last year Anteater squad). This is just too many point's for Wyoming to handle and Irvine is not playing as bad as their record suggests...POD#2


    Hmmmm....may have to do some more reading.  Don't know UC Irvine well at all, but I was planning to be on the other side of this one based on:

    1. UC Irvine has not played well away from home, not breaking 63 points in any of their games.

    2. UC Irvine shoots a horendous 62% from the charity stripe vs. Wyoming's 73%.

    3. I really think Wyoming is a little under rated, and they have blown a lot of the weaker teams out at home with an average margin of victory of 22 points.

    But again, I know nothing about UC I. that you can't read on kenpom.  Probably going to cut this down to a smaller play and maybe re-evaluate at halftime.
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    2nd play is:

    UC Irvine +16.5 for for 20 units... The Anteaters were 13-19 under 1st year head coach Russell Turner, as his up tempo offense generated a league best 75.3ppg last season in the Big West. It should also be noted that key victories last season over regular season champs Long Beach State and tourney champs UC Santa Barbara were quite the accomplishments for this first year head coach who spent 11 seasons as an assistant in the NCAA with many programs (Wake Forest & Stanford to name a couple) before he was the assistant at Golden State in the NBA (Now we know why he runs a fast paced offense) . Irvine will be hard up to repeat another 13 win season this year as they lost  their top 3 scorer's from last season as Darren Moore, Eric Wise & Patrick Rembert are no longer with the team. The top returning scorer and rebounder from last year is junior Mike Wilder (9.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg). Also returning thus year is junior guard Daman Starring, who transferred from Centenary College and started 30 games in 2010-11. Starring averaged 7.4 ppg and tied for second on the team with 30 steals, as he has filled in nicely so far this year in a year were Irvine has embraced 7 new freshman making this a very young team. As for Wyoming they are about to embark a venture into a game were they will be laying the 2nd largest number this year. I like this spot because this has number seems to be derived from Wyoming covering numbers up to this point against some questionable competition while Irvine has some rather tough opponents thus far up to this point losing to @Cal, Weber St & @Southern Miss. Irvine went 2-0-1ats in those 3 games. These 2 teams combined have beating the number 10 times already this season in just 14 attempts. So while both of these teams continue to beat the numbers with one winning games and the other losing games I value the point's in this contest as UC Irvine shoots the 3 ball very well at 37% and that is a big key against this Wyoming team who has been rather tough on defense this year. Irbine has nailed 58 long balls already this season as they have about 4-5 players that can hit the shot from behind the arc at a very successful rate. Last year Russell Turner devised a plan that was able to beat Wyoming by a score of 83-68 as 3 point favs so I have faith that I can get a valiant effort from his team once again with a plan that can keep this game within the suggested boat load of points we are able to snag (even with this younger than last year Anteater squad). This is just too many point's for Wyoming to handle and Irvine is not playing as bad as their record suggests...POD#2


    Hmmmm....may have to do some more reading.  Don't know UC Irvine well at all, but I was planning to be on the other side of this one based on:

    1. UC Irvine has not played well away from home, not breaking 63 points in any of their games.

    2. UC Irvine shoots a horendous 62% from the charity stripe vs. Wyoming's 73%.

    3. I really think Wyoming is a little under rated, and they have blown a lot of the weaker teams out at home with an average margin of victory of 22 points.

    But again, I know nothing about UC I. that you can't read on kenpom.  Probably going to cut this down to a smaller play and maybe re-evaluate at halftime.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2011 - 6:28 AM ET #40

    Other leans as of now would be as follows:

    FAU +14...
    Santa Barbara -10...
    IPFW -10...


    Came real close to playing all 3 of these. Still may add one. I will reconvene later on..... 
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    FAU +14...
    Santa Barbara -10...
    IPFW -10...


    Came real close to playing all 3 of these. Still may add one. I will reconvene later on..... 
     
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    3rd play is:

    Wisconsin -10 for 20 units... Question. How will the the pretender's in Milwaukee deal with the Nations top ranked defense who holds opponents to just 44 points a game while allowing only 33% from the field? Little boy in the back of the classroom raises his hand and says, "I know this one teacher, No way in hell will can Milwaukee score point's against Wisky." Says the little boy. The boy then proceeds to tell me me this, "The 2 decent defenses Milwaukee already faced in MSU & UNI resulted in 2 double digit margin losses of 15 & 13 points". I said damn boy you sound like you know you basketball. Shit even the little boys in school know you lay the points here... 


    Iv'e been squared on this one...
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    Wisconsin -10 for 20 units... Question. How will the the pretender's in Milwaukee deal with the Nations top ranked defense who holds opponents to just 44 points a game while allowing only 33% from the field? Little boy in the back of the classroom raises his hand and says, "I know this one teacher, No way in hell will can Milwaukee score point's against Wisky." Says the little boy. The boy then proceeds to tell me me this, "The 2 decent defenses Milwaukee already faced in MSU & UNI resulted in 2 double digit margin losses of 15 & 13 points". I said damn boy you sound like you know you basketball. Shit even the little boys in school know you lay the points here... 


    Iv'e been squared on this one...
     
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    A team I would be very scared of today is Drexel. This team is like the Philadelhia Eagles of the CBB so far. They were supposed to me better than they currently are and most will probably be willing to wager on them today just to fade Niagara and their bad defense thinking that Drexel will come around at some point. I think playing Drexel today could be a big mistake. Just saying...
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    A team I would be very scared of today is Drexel. This team is like the Philadelhia Eagles of the CBB so far. They were supposed to me better than they currently are and most will probably be willing to wager on them today just to fade Niagara and their bad defense thinking that Drexel will come around at some point. I think playing Drexel today could be a big mistake. Just saying...
     
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    As a die hard badger fan I hope you're right. No way I can lay this road chalk here with their inconsistent offense no matter how good there d has played. I remember them losing a game in green bay a few yrs ago in a similar spot. I really have no idea how good this milwaukee team is tho. All I know is they have an impressive record and would love to win an instate battle. They looked decent when they torched my depaul bet but the blue demons are Swiss cheese on D
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    As a die hard badger fan I hope you're right. No way I can lay this road chalk here with their inconsistent offense no matter how good there d has played. I remember them losing a game in green bay a few yrs ago in a similar spot. I really have no idea how good this milwaukee team is tho. All I know is they have an impressive record and would love to win an instate battle. They looked decent when they torched my depaul bet but the blue demons are Swiss cheese on D
     
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    Good hit yesterday keep them coming

    Is it safe to lay the chalk in this game

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    Good hit yesterday keep them coming

    Is it safe to lay the chalk in this game

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus1:

    Good hit yesterday keep them coming

    Is it safe to lay the chalk in this game

    I'm a believer yes. Th reality is that Milwaukee are huge pretender's and no better than 3rd best in the horizon AT BEST. Milwaukee's 7 D-1 wins came against 6 losing teams and just one team with a winning record (Depaul 6-3). Those losing teams have compiled a record of just 14-42 so far. Talk about getting an easy schedule for some wins. When they played UNI & MSU, Milwaukee shot just 40% going 40 for 99 from the field. I don't care where they play this game Wisconsin's defense is the real deal and consistently pounded this team Milwaukee to the ground in 18 straight meetings now...
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    Good hit yesterday keep them coming

    Is it safe to lay the chalk in this game

    I'm a believer yes. Th reality is that Milwaukee are huge pretender's and no better than 3rd best in the horizon AT BEST. Milwaukee's 7 D-1 wins came against 6 losing teams and just one team with a winning record (Depaul 6-3). Those losing teams have compiled a record of just 14-42 so far. Talk about getting an easy schedule for some wins. When they played UNI & MSU, Milwaukee shot just 40% going 40 for 99 from the field. I don't care where they play this game Wisconsin's defense is the real deal and consistently pounded this team Milwaukee to the ground in 18 straight meetings now...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jusballin32:

    GL Odds! Keep up the good work.....great write-ups.  Grew up in Sandusky myself.

    Do you know Tommy Callahan from Callahan Auto Parts?

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    GL Odds! Keep up the good work.....great write-ups.  Grew up in Sandusky myself.

    Do you know Tommy Callahan from Callahan Auto Parts?

     
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    I got this online Im with you Ob!!!
     
    CBB | 12/13/2011 - 7:00 PM
    Play OVERIUPU-FT WAYNE on the total in All games in home lined games
    The record is 11 Overs and 1 Unders for the last three seasons (+9.90 units)
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    Play OVERIUPU-FT WAYNE on the total in All games in home lined games
    The record is 11 Overs and 1 Unders for the last three seasons (+9.90 units)
     
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    Well no wonder u r not too fond of Ohio, u live in that dump they call Toledo. Much brighter places to be in this great state and columbus is one of them as u said. Much to do in Cincinnati area as well, but yes, like all bigger cities has it's bad areas. U just havnt got to see the rest of this state brother.

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    Well no wonder u r not too fond of Ohio, u live in that dump they call Toledo. Much brighter places to be in this great state and columbus is one of them as u said. Much to do in Cincinnati area as well, but yes, like all bigger cities has it's bad areas. U just havnt got to see the rest of this state brother.

    GL with your plays
     
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    I agree.Columbus is awesome.Toledo is the worst town in Ohio
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    Quote Originally Posted by karkeith:

    Do you know Tommy Callahan from Callahan Auto Parts?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGWbt3DSje0
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