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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2011 - 2:50 AM ET #1

    58-53-2 ytd netting -50.2 units...
    4-9 POD's -92 units...


    Fade away people I went 2-4 last night and lost -35 units. Here's yesterdays thread below...

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=40&sub=101199995&page=1


    Been researching all night and got a huge card coming up for today so beware and BOL as always...

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    58-53-2 ytd netting -50.2 units...
    4-9 POD's -92 units...


    Fade away people I went 2-4 last night and lost -35 units. Here's yesterdays thread below...

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=40&sub=101199995&page=1


    Been researching all night and got a huge card coming up for today so beware and BOL as always...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2011 - 2:54 AM ET #2

    good luck odds this the most time ive had to do research all season for my big card
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    Georgia st -13 for 20 units... The Panther's are on a 5 game winning streak winning those 5 games by an average of  21.2ppg. Meanwhile William & Mary has 7 losses in 8 games already this season with their lone win coming against Liberty by 1 point, a team who has already beat them once this year as well. William & Mary has lost those 7 games by an average point margin of 16.7ppg. These number's are speaking volume's as to what could happen in this game and my money is most definitely on the Panther's and their fast paced offense that averages 60 shot attempts per game, which should give us many opportunities to cover this number...

    Cleveland st @ Detroit under 134 for 20 units... Last year these 2 teams played over the total twice. Cleveland st won the 1st game 81-69 and Detroit won the 2nd game 81-78. But what my eye's are seeing is 2 absolutely huge important players from those games that will be sidelined (Nick Minnerath (knee)) & (Eli Holman (Frat party fight)). Eli Holman hasn't played in one game yet this season because of his incident earlier and Nick Minnerath hasn't played since injuring his knee in the 1st 2 minute's of the Bowling Green game this year. Why are these injuries so important? Detroit just looks completely lost on offense out there without these 2 as Nick averaged 53% shooting last season while Eli had 2 straight years of 60% or more season's from the field. And in last years match-up's against Cleveland st Eli & Nick accounted for 75pts in 132 minutes played in just 2 games while shooting a combined 29 for 45 from the floor. So lets break that down. That's 64% from the field, 37.5ppg & 66 minute's per game. No wonder Detroit is currently struggling to live up to many who predicted them as top contender in the Horizon conference. To make matter's worse that push tempo style that head Coach Ray McCallum loves to run is about to run into Cleveland st at the wrong time as the Viking's are currently holding their opponents to just 46.9 shot attempts per game and barely 40% from the field. Thise one may not reach the 120's with those important injuries for my Titans of Detroit...


    Colorado st @ Northern Iowa under 125 for 20 units... The Ram's offense is averaging just 49 shots per game while the Panther's are averaging just 50.9 shots per game. The Panther's play excellent defense and are always looking to slow things down on offense as they rank low in that category. Defensively the Panther's are holding opponents to just 39% from the field this season and this Panther defense will be the 2nd best that the Ram's have seen this year. Stanford was the other strong defensive team that the Ram's played up to this point and that one hit just 116pts in total with the Cardinal offense being much more talented and potent than this Northern Iowa ball club....


    Arkansas @ UCONN over 143 for 20 units... Arkansas is currently shooting 47% from the field while averaging 65 shots per game and also allowing 65 shots per game. That alone with UCONN's 48% shooting from the field while allowing 62 shots per game can easily send this one over the total as both team's have lot's of talent on offense. UCONN just got done shooting 48% vs a very tough defense in Florida st while allowing the Seminoles to take 60 shot's as there was 141 pts scored in that games regulation. Arkansas is going to push this tempo and UCONN can run with anyone in the Nation. I love this over...

    Arizona st +8.5 for 20 units... This game come's down to battle of the turnover's as Arizona st is averaging 18.7 per game & Tulsa is averaging 15.5 per game. Both of these teams play excellent defense as they each are holding opponents under 40% from the field and as long as the Sun Devil's keep the turnovers to a minimum they can win this game making a cover most definitely a good possibility.  Tulsa has lost 4 of their past 5 games and laying this kind of chalk is a drives a huge question mark. Love the points in this game...

    Utah +10.5 for 20 units... This is the battle of ugliness as both of these teams have many bad area's and in result these team's are not going to win many games at all this year. However Utah has been the victim of a brutal schedule in the past 5 games in which they lost all them by an average of 18.2ppg. Those 5 teams are a combined 25-10su right now as those teams had shooting percentages that read the folling of 50%, 46%, 46%, 42% & 46%. Those teams also included the 6th, 46th, 59th & 29th ranked offenses. Here we have the Fresno offense who shot's just 40% as a team ranking 176th in the nation in offense as their pg Kevin Olekaibe fire's up 18 shots per game while shooting a mere 37% on the season (1% lower than his last season total). I like my chances here catching double digit's against a team that has no business laying them in this spot...

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    Georgia st -13 for 20 units... The Panther's are on a 5 game winning streak winning those 5 games by an average of  21.2ppg. Meanwhile William & Mary has 7 losses in 8 games already this season with their lone win coming against Liberty by 1 point, a team who has already beat them once this year as well. William & Mary has lost those 7 games by an average point margin of 16.7ppg. These number's are speaking volume's as to what could happen in this game and my money is most definitely on the Panther's and their fast paced offense that averages 60 shot attempts per game, which should give us many opportunities to cover this number...

    Cleveland st @ Detroit under 134 for 20 units... Last year these 2 teams played over the total twice. Cleveland st won the 1st game 81-69 and Detroit won the 2nd game 81-78. But what my eye's are seeing is 2 absolutely huge important players from those games that will be sidelined (Nick Minnerath (knee)) & (Eli Holman (Frat party fight)). Eli Holman hasn't played in one game yet this season because of his incident earlier and Nick Minnerath hasn't played since injuring his knee in the 1st 2 minute's of the Bowling Green game this year. Why are these injuries so important? Detroit just looks completely lost on offense out there without these 2 as Nick averaged 53% shooting last season while Eli had 2 straight years of 60% or more season's from the field. And in last years match-up's against Cleveland st Eli & Nick accounted for 75pts in 132 minutes played in just 2 games while shooting a combined 29 for 45 from the floor. So lets break that down. That's 64% from the field, 37.5ppg & 66 minute's per game. No wonder Detroit is currently struggling to live up to many who predicted them as top contender in the Horizon conference. To make matter's worse that push tempo style that head Coach Ray McCallum loves to run is about to run into Cleveland st at the wrong time as the Viking's are currently holding their opponents to just 46.9 shot attempts per game and barely 40% from the field. Thise one may not reach the 120's with those important injuries for my Titans of Detroit...


    Colorado st @ Northern Iowa under 125 for 20 units... The Ram's offense is averaging just 49 shots per game while the Panther's are averaging just 50.9 shots per game. The Panther's play excellent defense and are always looking to slow things down on offense as they rank low in that category. Defensively the Panther's are holding opponents to just 39% from the field this season and this Panther defense will be the 2nd best that the Ram's have seen this year. Stanford was the other strong defensive team that the Ram's played up to this point and that one hit just 116pts in total with the Cardinal offense being much more talented and potent than this Northern Iowa ball club....


    Arkansas @ UCONN over 143 for 20 units... Arkansas is currently shooting 47% from the field while averaging 65 shots per game and also allowing 65 shots per game. That alone with UCONN's 48% shooting from the field while allowing 62 shots per game can easily send this one over the total as both team's have lot's of talent on offense. UCONN just got done shooting 48% vs a very tough defense in Florida st while allowing the Seminoles to take 60 shot's as there was 141 pts scored in that games regulation. Arkansas is going to push this tempo and UCONN can run with anyone in the Nation. I love this over...

    Arizona st +8.5 for 20 units... This game come's down to battle of the turnover's as Arizona st is averaging 18.7 per game & Tulsa is averaging 15.5 per game. Both of these teams play excellent defense as they each are holding opponents under 40% from the field and as long as the Sun Devil's keep the turnovers to a minimum they can win this game making a cover most definitely a good possibility.  Tulsa has lost 4 of their past 5 games and laying this kind of chalk is a drives a huge question mark. Love the points in this game...

    Utah +10.5 for 20 units... This is the battle of ugliness as both of these teams have many bad area's and in result these team's are not going to win many games at all this year. However Utah has been the victim of a brutal schedule in the past 5 games in which they lost all them by an average of 18.2ppg. Those 5 teams are a combined 25-10su right now as those teams had shooting percentages that read the folling of 50%, 46%, 46%, 42% & 46%. Those teams also included the 6th, 46th, 59th & 29th ranked offenses. Here we have the Fresno offense who shot's just 40% as a team ranking 176th in the nation in offense as their pg Kevin Olekaibe fire's up 18 shots per game while shooting a mere 37% on the season (1% lower than his last season total). I like my chances here catching double digit's against a team that has no business laying them in this spot...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2011 - 2:59 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by shakey12381:

    good luck odds this the most time ive had to do research all season for my big card

    BOL today Shakey. I haven't even had time to cap CFB yet. But I won't need as much time to research as the season has played out so we can make educated decisions with less research involved....
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey12381:

    good luck odds this the most time ive had to do research all season for my big card

    BOL today Shakey. I haven't even had time to cap CFB yet. But I won't need as much time to research as the season has played out so we can make educated decisions with less research involved....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawsonJames:

    Do we ever sleep Lawson...

    BOL today bro. I know you heard about coach Rick Neuheisel getting carried off the practice field. I kind of chuckled a bit when I seen it on ESPN first take yesterday...


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    Do we ever sleep Lawson...

    BOL today bro. I know you heard about coach Rick Neuheisel getting carried off the practice field. I kind of chuckled a bit when I seen it on ESPN first take yesterday...


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladnav77:

    I'm not done yet. But i figured a rest was due so I posted them for a breather from the 
    research. I also wrote something on Kentucky but backed off them. Here's what I wrote...

    Kentucky -6.5... The Wildcats have 3 super talented freshman in Forwards Anthony Davis &  Michael Kidd-Gilchrist along with PG Marquis Teague. These 3 have been teamed up with 2 very talented sophomores who lead the team in scoring in forward Terrence Jones (15.1ppg) & Swing man Doron Lamb (14.4ppg). Not a single player on this Kentucky team is shooting less than 45% individually and as a team the Wildcat's are shooting 49.6% while holding their opponent's to a minuscule 31.1%. With this match-up being played in Lexington Kentucky and the Tar Heels already losing to double digit's to UNLV on a neutral court only 2 games ago. I can't vision the Heels having enough talent to keep up in this prime time game.... 

    I decided to pass though because, well shit I'm really not sure. I just now i'm going to find a lot more better games...
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    I'm not done yet. But i figured a rest was due so I posted them for a breather from the 
    research. I also wrote something on Kentucky but backed off them. Here's what I wrote...

    Kentucky -6.5... The Wildcats have 3 super talented freshman in Forwards Anthony Davis &  Michael Kidd-Gilchrist along with PG Marquis Teague. These 3 have been teamed up with 2 very talented sophomores who lead the team in scoring in forward Terrence Jones (15.1ppg) & Swing man Doron Lamb (14.4ppg). Not a single player on this Kentucky team is shooting less than 45% individually and as a team the Wildcat's are shooting 49.6% while holding their opponent's to a minuscule 31.1%. With this match-up being played in Lexington Kentucky and the Tar Heels already losing to double digit's to UNLV on a neutral court only 2 games ago. I can't vision the Heels having enough talent to keep up in this prime time game.... 

    I decided to pass though because, well shit I'm really not sure. I just now i'm going to find a lot more better games...
     
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    Drexel @ Delaware under 120 for 20 units... Drexel plays rock solid defense allowing 55ppg on 48 shots per game at just a 39% clip. However on the offensive side of the ball Drexel has been a complete mess. Even with the much awaited return of their best offensive player Chris Fouch in their last game as he was just 2 of 10 from the field in 15 minute's of playing time. It seem's he's going to need some time for that knee to get a 100%. Delaware is also plays with the same type of mentality as the to are a very solid defensive squad while lacking the ability to score on offense. Delaware is currently holding their opponents to 42% from the field while shooting just 42% from the field on offense. Not exactly a formula with consisting relations to an over wager. Delaware has a monster down low, junior forward Jamelle Hagins averaged a league-best 3.0 blocks per game last season (12th nationally) to go along with 7.3 rebounds, which ranked ninth in the league (CAA). Hard to believe this is the game that Drexel get's on the scoring horse with a man like that in the oppositions paint. Jamelle is at it again this year as he is averaging 2.2bpg so far along with 10rpg. Yike's this game has a chance to stay under 100 in my honest opinion...
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    Drexel @ Delaware under 120 for 20 units... Drexel plays rock solid defense allowing 55ppg on 48 shots per game at just a 39% clip. However on the offensive side of the ball Drexel has been a complete mess. Even with the much awaited return of their best offensive player Chris Fouch in their last game as he was just 2 of 10 from the field in 15 minute's of playing time. It seem's he's going to need some time for that knee to get a 100%. Delaware is also plays with the same type of mentality as the to are a very solid defensive squad while lacking the ability to score on offense. Delaware is currently holding their opponents to 42% from the field while shooting just 42% from the field on offense. Not exactly a formula with consisting relations to an over wager. Delaware has a monster down low, junior forward Jamelle Hagins averaged a league-best 3.0 blocks per game last season (12th nationally) to go along with 7.3 rebounds, which ranked ninth in the league (CAA). Hard to believe this is the game that Drexel get's on the scoring horse with a man like that in the oppositions paint. Jamelle is at it again this year as he is averaging 2.2bpg so far along with 10rpg. Yike's this game has a chance to stay under 100 in my honest opinion...
     
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    Tenn Tech @ Duquesne under 151 for 10 units... Really 151? This is the fishiest number on the board iv'e came across so far. The Dukes are averaging 57 shots per game at a 48% clip while the Golden Eagles are averaging 55 shots per game at a 46% clip. When I seen the 151 I was expecting to see some alarming number's suggesting this number. I'm just not seeing it as Golden Eagles games have played to an average total of 131.75ppg in 4 D-1 games this year while Duke games have played to the average total of 147ppg in 6 D-1 games. So although the Duke's seem to be involved in higher scoring games nothing is showing up that suggests a total in the 150's is necessary...


    I'll lower the wager just a bit because this number seems so fishy. But I can't pass up the value being offered
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    Tenn Tech @ Duquesne under 151 for 10 units... Really 151? This is the fishiest number on the board iv'e came across so far. The Dukes are averaging 57 shots per game at a 48% clip while the Golden Eagles are averaging 55 shots per game at a 46% clip. When I seen the 151 I was expecting to see some alarming number's suggesting this number. I'm just not seeing it as Golden Eagles games have played to an average total of 131.75ppg in 4 D-1 games this year while Duke games have played to the average total of 147ppg in 6 D-1 games. So although the Duke's seem to be involved in higher scoring games nothing is showing up that suggests a total in the 150's is necessary...


    I'll lower the wager just a bit because this number seems so fishy. But I can't pass up the value being offered
     
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    North Dakota st ML (-115) for 20 units... The Bison are currently playing excellent defense only allowing 39% shooting while shooting at a 47% clip on offense. That's quite the balance as their opponents in this game ( The 2-6su Indiana-Purdue Jaguars) are allowing 45% shooting on defense and shooting just 42% on offense. North Dakota has resulted from this play in a 6-1su record so far and their chances of winning this game are high...
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    North Dakota st ML (-115) for 20 units... The Bison are currently playing excellent defense only allowing 39% shooting while shooting at a 47% clip on offense. That's quite the balance as their opponents in this game ( The 2-6su Indiana-Purdue Jaguars) are allowing 45% shooting on defense and shooting just 42% on offense. North Dakota has resulted from this play in a 6-1su record so far and their chances of winning this game are high...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2011 - 5:04 AM ET #12

    With you on Ga St and N Dak St

    Had Freson St but going back to look at it again

     

    GL

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    With you on Ga St and N Dak St

    Had Freson St but going back to look at it again

     

    GL

     
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    NC-Wilmington +10.5 for 20 units... Sure Wilmington is 0-5su but they are 4-1ats and those 5 losses came against teams that currently have a combined record of 23-8su. On the other hand Illinois st is 5-2su thus far & 3-1ats as their 5 wins came against teams with a combined record of 11-23su thus far. Seems a little deceiving for this Redbird team to be laying such a number in this spot. I will most definitely bite on this value play as the Redbirds will attempt to slow this game down along with their mere 48 shot attempts per game so far this season leaving these points very much valued...
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    NC-Wilmington +10.5 for 20 units... Sure Wilmington is 0-5su but they are 4-1ats and those 5 losses came against teams that currently have a combined record of 23-8su. On the other hand Illinois st is 5-2su thus far & 3-1ats as their 5 wins came against teams with a combined record of 11-23su thus far. Seems a little deceiving for this Redbird team to be laying such a number in this spot. I will most definitely bite on this value play as the Redbirds will attempt to slow this game down along with their mere 48 shot attempts per game so far this season leaving these points very much valued...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus1:

    With you on Ga St and N Dak St

    Had Freson St but going back to look at it again

     

    GL

    Fresno is not afraid to shot that ball. They just don't seem to understand how to get the shots to fall. It's been that way for a couple of years now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus1:

    With you on Ga St and N Dak St

    Had Freson St but going back to look at it again

     

    GL

    Fresno is not afraid to shot that ball. They just don't seem to understand how to get the shots to fall. It's been that way for a couple of years now...
     
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    Saturdays final card:

    Georgia st -13 for 20 units...
    Cleveland st @ Detroit under 134 for 20 units...
    Colorado st @ Northern Iowa under 125 for 20 units...
    Arkansas @ UCONN over 143 for 20 units...POD
    Arizona st +8.5 for 20 units...
    Utah +10.5 for 20 units...
    Drexel @ Delaware under 120 for 20 units...
    Tenn Tech @ Duquesne under 151 for 10 units...
    North Dakota st ML (-115) for 20 units... 
    NC-Wilmington +10.5 for 20 units...

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    Saturdays final card:

    Georgia st -13 for 20 units...
    Cleveland st @ Detroit under 134 for 20 units...
    Colorado st @ Northern Iowa under 125 for 20 units...
    Arkansas @ UCONN over 143 for 20 units...POD
    Arizona st +8.5 for 20 units...
    Utah +10.5 for 20 units...
    Drexel @ Delaware under 120 for 20 units...
    Tenn Tech @ Duquesne under 151 for 10 units...
    North Dakota st ML (-115) for 20 units... 
    NC-Wilmington +10.5 for 20 units...

     
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    Your're struggling and raising your units?  I would think you would cut it to 5 units or play less games.  Feels like your forcing, anyhow good luck.
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    Your're struggling and raising your units?  I would think you would cut it to 5 units or play less games.  Feels like your forcing, anyhow good luck.
     
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    DO YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE BEST, GREAT WRITE UP'S
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    DO YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE BEST, GREAT WRITE UP'S
     
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    I'm still with ya but I did like he said I cut my units. You are due to turn it around. Losing with educated picks is still better than flipping a coin
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    I'm still with ya but I did like he said I cut my units. You are due to turn it around. Losing with educated picks is still better than flipping a coin
     
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    Good morning and good luck Oddsbusters! I never knew shots per game was so important for totals before until after I loss on Over 134 in Virgnia Tech at Minnesota this week.

    If I had checked boxscores i would have found out that Virginia Tech only averages like 48 to 49 attempts per game which means they like to slow it down lol.  
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    Good morning and good luck Oddsbusters! I never knew shots per game was so important for totals before until after I loss on Over 134 in Virgnia Tech at Minnesota this week.

    If I had checked boxscores i would have found out that Virginia Tech only averages like 48 to 49 attempts per game which means they like to slow it down lol.  
     
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    Fade away??? Are you crazy bro?
    My grandmother and I will continue to follow you for a long time to come my man.
    With your basketball acumen its only a matter of time before you get hot again.
    Thanks for all the input buddy.
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    Fade away??? Are you crazy bro?
    My grandmother and I will continue to follow you for a long time to come my man.
    With your basketball acumen its only a matter of time before you get hot again.
    Thanks for all the input buddy.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim1962:

    DO YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE BEST, GREAT WRITE UP'S
    Really like the Uconn/Arkansas over play and my 2nd favorite is UNC-Wilmington +10.5.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim1962:

    DO YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE BEST, GREAT WRITE UP'S
    Really like the Uconn/Arkansas over play and my 2nd favorite is UNC-Wilmington +10.5.....
     
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