I like it ... all seems right , only thing is I think some get reeled in if they see someone supposedly betting thousands on a game and they think its fool proof, unless your getting plays from someone else, or getting from a service, there should always be a little reasoning as to why you like a play you are betting a grand on ....just my opinion if asked and still do not want to give one, then maybe there isn't one , ...but I think everything you wrote is true and how it should be done .... gl 151
i read all the writeups u make good work
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by RUM151:
I like it ... all seems right , only thing is I think some get reeled in if they see someone supposedly betting thousands on a game and they think its fool proof, unless your getting plays from someone else, or getting from a service, there should always be a little reasoning as to why you like a play you are betting a grand on ....just my opinion if asked and still do not want to give one, then maybe there isn't one , ...but I think everything you wrote is true and how it should be done .... gl 151
I like it ... all seems right , only thing is I think some get reeled in if they see someone supposedly betting thousands on a game and they think its fool proof, unless your getting plays from someone else, or getting from a service, there should always be a little reasoning as to why you like a play you are betting a grand on ....just my opinion if asked and still do not want to give one, then maybe there isn't one , ...but I think everything you wrote is true and how it should be done .... gl 151
i read all the writeups u make good work
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by RUM151:
I like it ... all seems right , only thing is I think some get reeled in if they see someone supposedly betting thousands on a game and they think its fool proof, unless your getting plays from someone else, or getting from a service, there should always be a little reasoning as to why you like a play you are betting a grand on ....just my opinion if asked and still do not want to give one, then maybe there isn't one , ...but I think everything you wrote is true and how it should be done .... gl 151
Oh and jircon, you have a quote from another Man (intended to instigate) as your signature… Very Junior High Sock Hop. That’s fascinating to be hung up on another Person/Capper/Member for years now p-s-y-c-h-o less drama, more handicappers projecting winners is the only rules that should be considered to be enforced. Lmao. Grow up Bruh
Again JJ ON POINT
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Quote Originally Posted by JJWoods:
Oh and jircon, you have a quote from another Man (intended to instigate) as your signature… Very Junior High Sock Hop. That’s fascinating to be hung up on another Person/Capper/Member for years now p-s-y-c-h-o less drama, more handicappers projecting winners is the only rules that should be considered to be enforced. Lmao. Grow up Bruh
About records, units, money management, and aslo bullsh*t! What follows is a long series of posts linked together because this dissertation cannot fit into one single post.Please read them all before commenting Although I am very well read about sports betting, my actual results at achieving consistent profit are mediocre. This is why I track other successful handicappers in hopes I might learn tips from their skills to improve my own. I do not "tail" anyone's bets, but I do watch them to hopefully confirm my own selections are on the right side, as I am sure many others do as well. What is the goal of Sports Betting?The goal of sports betting is to achieve profit. Period. I have noted 6 distinct methods for bettors to attempt to achieve this goal: 1. Good handicapping! Achieving many more wins than losses. 2. Tailing bettors who are achieving significant, winning records.3. Big hits! Betting much more on key events, to overcome mediocre W/L record4. Huge volume of bets, using multiplication factor despite tiny profit margins5. Moneyline betting mostly on dogs, typically ML sports (W/L record is irrelevent)6. Arbitrage betting (W/L record is irrelevent) On sports gambling forums the first listed "Good handicapping" is the most prominent. To achieve profit this way, consistently over time, requires good handicapping skill. The main focus of my discussion centers around this. On internet sports forums we see hundreds of members "posting picks." But there's no accountability on the internet; people can make up anything. Let's be candid here: few of those are actually betting significant sums (despite boasts to the contrary) and even fewer are achieving sigificant profits (despite false boasts to the contrary) Next
ryoshiiis #1 alias is back on and attacking u
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by zircon:
About records, units, money management, and aslo bullsh*t! What follows is a long series of posts linked together because this dissertation cannot fit into one single post.Please read them all before commenting Although I am very well read about sports betting, my actual results at achieving consistent profit are mediocre. This is why I track other successful handicappers in hopes I might learn tips from their skills to improve my own. I do not "tail" anyone's bets, but I do watch them to hopefully confirm my own selections are on the right side, as I am sure many others do as well. What is the goal of Sports Betting?The goal of sports betting is to achieve profit. Period. I have noted 6 distinct methods for bettors to attempt to achieve this goal: 1. Good handicapping! Achieving many more wins than losses. 2. Tailing bettors who are achieving significant, winning records.3. Big hits! Betting much more on key events, to overcome mediocre W/L record4. Huge volume of bets, using multiplication factor despite tiny profit margins5. Moneyline betting mostly on dogs, typically ML sports (W/L record is irrelevent)6. Arbitrage betting (W/L record is irrelevent) On sports gambling forums the first listed "Good handicapping" is the most prominent. To achieve profit this way, consistently over time, requires good handicapping skill. The main focus of my discussion centers around this. On internet sports forums we see hundreds of members "posting picks." But there's no accountability on the internet; people can make up anything. Let's be candid here: few of those are actually betting significant sums (despite boasts to the contrary) and even fewer are achieving sigificant profits (despite false boasts to the contrary) Next
[Quote: Originally Posted by KellyM_1964]Quote Originally Posted by zircon: About records, units, money management, and aslo bullsh*t! What follows is a long series of posts linked together because this dissertation cannot fit into one single post.Please read them all before commenting Although I am very well read about sports betting, my actual results at achieving consistent profit are mediocre. This is why I track other successful handicappers in hopes I might learn tips from their skills to improve my own. I do not "tail" anyone's bets, but I do watch them to hopefully confirm my own selections are on the right side, as I am sure many others do as well. What is the goal of Sports Betting?The goal of sports betting is to achieve profit. Period. I have noted 6 distinct methods for bettors to attempt to achieve this goal: 1. Good handicapping! Achieving many more wins than losses. 2. Tailing bettors who are achieving significant, winning records.3. Big hits! Betting much more on key events, to overcome mediocre W/L record4. Huge volume of bets, using multiplication factor despite tiny profit margins5. Moneyline betting mostly on dogs, typically ML sports (W/L record is irrelevent)6. Arbitrage betting (W/L record is irrelevent) On sports gambling forums the first listed "Good handicapping" is the most prominent. To achieve profit this way, consistently over time, requires good handicapping skill. The main focus of my discussion centers around this. On internet sports forums we see hundreds of members "posting picks." But there's no accountability on the internet; people can make up anything. Let's be candid here: few of those are actually betting significant sums (despite boasts to the contrary) and even fewer are achieving sigificant profits (despite false boasts to the contrary) Next
ryoshiiis #1 alias is back on and attacking
Really So I’m located in FL Tampa Bay Hyde Park area to be exact Look at the IP ADDRESS NOT IN KC.
Look when I joined Genius. Again nothing is near the same as Ryoshiii So all this BS that was posted, and JJ Woods called you out on is FACT. What the hell or who the hell do you think you are?
Again, if your a MOD look me up Oddsbuster52 IP ADDRESS CUZ
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[Quote: Originally Posted by KellyM_1964]Quote Originally Posted by zircon: About records, units, money management, and aslo bullsh*t! What follows is a long series of posts linked together because this dissertation cannot fit into one single post.Please read them all before commenting Although I am very well read about sports betting, my actual results at achieving consistent profit are mediocre. This is why I track other successful handicappers in hopes I might learn tips from their skills to improve my own. I do not "tail" anyone's bets, but I do watch them to hopefully confirm my own selections are on the right side, as I am sure many others do as well. What is the goal of Sports Betting?The goal of sports betting is to achieve profit. Period. I have noted 6 distinct methods for bettors to attempt to achieve this goal: 1. Good handicapping! Achieving many more wins than losses. 2. Tailing bettors who are achieving significant, winning records.3. Big hits! Betting much more on key events, to overcome mediocre W/L record4. Huge volume of bets, using multiplication factor despite tiny profit margins5. Moneyline betting mostly on dogs, typically ML sports (W/L record is irrelevent)6. Arbitrage betting (W/L record is irrelevent) On sports gambling forums the first listed "Good handicapping" is the most prominent. To achieve profit this way, consistently over time, requires good handicapping skill. The main focus of my discussion centers around this. On internet sports forums we see hundreds of members "posting picks." But there's no accountability on the internet; people can make up anything. Let's be candid here: few of those are actually betting significant sums (despite boasts to the contrary) and even fewer are achieving sigificant profits (despite false boasts to the contrary) Next
ryoshiiis #1 alias is back on and attacking
Really So I’m located in FL Tampa Bay Hyde Park area to be exact Look at the IP ADDRESS NOT IN KC.
Look when I joined Genius. Again nothing is near the same as Ryoshiii So all this BS that was posted, and JJ Woods called you out on is FACT. What the hell or who the hell do you think you are?
Again, if your a MOD look me up Oddsbuster52 IP ADDRESS CUZ
A record does not include how much money allegedly bet/won (or lost)
As stated above, not only are claims of alleged riches unverifiable, but more importantly, they are irrelevent to one's skills to pick more winners than losers. NEXT
Originally Posted by Wizerguy in his football threads:
"All my picks College and Pro will be scored by the fair and equal standard 1 unit grade ( juice listed)Best Bets will be graded as 1 unit as well and documented separately and also included in the overall record.
This helps from the perspective of a player who only bets 1 unit on each pick but still wants a play
Its more of an accurate documentation (wins vs losses) to show skill set, than how many units is being wagered.
What I choose to bet in regards to $ is only relevant to me."
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Quote Originally Posted by zircon:
What is your record?
W/L plus the result. Full stop.
A record does not include how much money allegedly bet/won (or lost)
As stated above, not only are claims of alleged riches unverifiable, but more importantly, they are irrelevent to one's skills to pick more winners than losers. NEXT
Originally Posted by Wizerguy in his football threads:
"All my picks College and Pro will be scored by the fair and equal standard 1 unit grade ( juice listed)Best Bets will be graded as 1 unit as well and documented separately and also included in the overall record.
This helps from the perspective of a player who only bets 1 unit on each pick but still wants a play
Its more of an accurate documentation (wins vs losses) to show skill set, than how many units is being wagered.
What I choose to bet in regards to $ is only relevant to me."
you make some good points and i think anyone reading this, especially newer gamblers should reread it again. what i think people fail to remember is that gambling doesnt have to be a dick measuring contest. someone might post that they play $1000 units and then other posters might feel like they arent "truly" gambling because they only play $50 or even $10 units. its shit like that that gets people into trouble quickly and puts them in a hole that they will have a real tough time climbing back out of. that is the whole point of units in the first place. its an aid to help others gauge the strength of a play and how much confidence that handicapper has in it. if everyone just posted dollar amounts, it does no good because everyones bankroll vastly varies. IMO posting an actual $ amount is just trying to get cool points from strangers on the internet. im not a big player by any means but i post picks to share because i have a level of confidence in them and want to help others win where i can. a 5 unit play for me might only be a 1/2 unit play for many others on this forum in terms of actual dollar value, but it doesnt matter because that's just a measure of my own confidence in the bet. I've also been working on improving how I track and manage data, similar to how companies handle records. Recently, I came across this interesting guide from https://ddi-dev.com/blog/case/how-to-create-a-healthcare-document-management-system/ on creating a healthcare document management system, which surprisingly gave me some ideas on how to better organize my rates. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Well said. Unit size is personal and should reflect confidence, not ego. Chasing others’ stakes is a quick path to loss!
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Quote Originally Posted by WILLY_THA_LURCH:
you make some good points and i think anyone reading this, especially newer gamblers should reread it again. what i think people fail to remember is that gambling doesnt have to be a dick measuring contest. someone might post that they play $1000 units and then other posters might feel like they arent "truly" gambling because they only play $50 or even $10 units. its shit like that that gets people into trouble quickly and puts them in a hole that they will have a real tough time climbing back out of. that is the whole point of units in the first place. its an aid to help others gauge the strength of a play and how much confidence that handicapper has in it. if everyone just posted dollar amounts, it does no good because everyones bankroll vastly varies. IMO posting an actual $ amount is just trying to get cool points from strangers on the internet. im not a big player by any means but i post picks to share because i have a level of confidence in them and want to help others win where i can. a 5 unit play for me might only be a 1/2 unit play for many others on this forum in terms of actual dollar value, but it doesnt matter because that's just a measure of my own confidence in the bet. I've also been working on improving how I track and manage data, similar to how companies handle records. Recently, I came across this interesting guide from https://ddi-dev.com/blog/case/how-to-create-a-healthcare-document-management-system/ on creating a healthcare document management system, which surprisingly gave me some ideas on how to better organize my rates. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Well said. Unit size is personal and should reflect confidence, not ego. Chasing others’ stakes is a quick path to loss!
Quote Originally Posted by WILLY_THA_LURCH: you make some good points and i think anyone reading this, especially newer gamblers should reread it again. what i think people fail to remember is that gambling doesnt have to be a dick measuring contest. someone might post that they play $1000 units and then other posters might feel like they arent "truly" gambling because they only play $50 or even $10 units. its shit like that that gets people into trouble quickly and puts them in a hole that they will have a real tough time climbing back out of. that is the whole point of units in the first place. its an aid to help others gauge the strength of a play and how much confidence that handicapper has in it. if everyone just posted dollar amounts, it does no good because everyones bankroll vastly varies. IMO posting an actual $ amount is just trying to get cool points from strangers on the internet. im not a big player by any means but i post picks to share because i have a level of confidence in them and want to help others win where i can. a 5 unit play for me might only be a 1/2 unit play for many others on this forum in terms of actual dollar value, but it doesnt matter because that's just a measure of my own confidence in the bet. I've also been working on improving how I track and manage data, similar to how companies handle records. Recently, I came across this interesting guide from https://ddi-dev.com/blog/case/how-to-create-a-healthcare-document-management-system/ on creating a healthcare document management system, which surprisingly gave me some ideas on how to better organize my rates. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Well said. Unit size is personal and should reflect confidence, not ego. Chasing others’ stakes is a quick path to loss!
you created an account to post an agreement and outside of the political forums Hmmm, very suspicious…
Zirco must have 5-6 aliases here. He’s skilled at deception, choosing favorites, accounting, and trolling… shame.
Jwoods
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Quote Originally Posted by Melissamian:
Quote Originally Posted by WILLY_THA_LURCH: you make some good points and i think anyone reading this, especially newer gamblers should reread it again. what i think people fail to remember is that gambling doesnt have to be a dick measuring contest. someone might post that they play $1000 units and then other posters might feel like they arent "truly" gambling because they only play $50 or even $10 units. its shit like that that gets people into trouble quickly and puts them in a hole that they will have a real tough time climbing back out of. that is the whole point of units in the first place. its an aid to help others gauge the strength of a play and how much confidence that handicapper has in it. if everyone just posted dollar amounts, it does no good because everyones bankroll vastly varies. IMO posting an actual $ amount is just trying to get cool points from strangers on the internet. im not a big player by any means but i post picks to share because i have a level of confidence in them and want to help others win where i can. a 5 unit play for me might only be a 1/2 unit play for many others on this forum in terms of actual dollar value, but it doesnt matter because that's just a measure of my own confidence in the bet. I've also been working on improving how I track and manage data, similar to how companies handle records. Recently, I came across this interesting guide from https://ddi-dev.com/blog/case/how-to-create-a-healthcare-document-management-system/ on creating a healthcare document management system, which surprisingly gave me some ideas on how to better organize my rates. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Well said. Unit size is personal and should reflect confidence, not ego. Chasing others’ stakes is a quick path to loss!
you created an account to post an agreement and outside of the political forums Hmmm, very suspicious…
Zirco must have 5-6 aliases here. He’s skilled at deception, choosing favorites, accounting, and trolling… shame.
Zircon you come across as immature regarding your obsession with another grown man… how can you expect credibility when you continue to embarrass yourself with your vendetta against Wizerguy?? A simple question you will certainly not address and you’ll continue to hide behind Fubah’s dignity and tremendous success and also your multiple illegal alias.
quite simply, grow a pair pal… and keep the forums about handicapping and not your personal hatred agenda you’re hung up on …..I bet you have a hitler mustache!!
respond Troll
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Zircon you come across as immature regarding your obsession with another grown man… how can you expect credibility when you continue to embarrass yourself with your vendetta against Wizerguy?? A simple question you will certainly not address and you’ll continue to hide behind Fubah’s dignity and tremendous success and also your multiple illegal alias.
quite simply, grow a pair pal… and keep the forums about handicapping and not your personal hatred agenda you’re hung up on …..I bet you have a hitler mustache!!
Quote Originally Posted by zircon: About records, units, money management, and aslo bullsh*t! What follows is a long series of posts linked together because this dissertation cannot fit into one single post.Please read them all before commenting Although I am very well read about sports betting, my actual results at achieving consistent profit are mediocre. This is why I track other successful handicappers in hopes I might learn tips from their skills to improve my own. I do not "tail" anyone's bets, but I do watch them to hopefully confirm my own selections are on the right side, as I am sure many others do as well. What is the goal of Sports Betting?The goal of sports betting is to achieve profit. Period. I have noted 6 distinct methods for bettors to attempt to achieve this goal: 1. Good handicapping! Achieving many more wins than losses. 2. Tailing bettors who are achieving significant, winning records.3. Big hits! Betting much more on key events, to overcome mediocre W/L record4. Huge volume of bets, using multiplication factor despite tiny profit margins5. Moneyline betting mostly on dogs, typically ML sports (W/L record is irrelevent)6. Arbitrage betting (W/L record is irrelevent) On sports gambling forums the first listed "Good handicapping" is the most prominent. To achieve profit this way, consistently over time, requires good handicapping skill. The main focus of my discussion centers around this. On internet sports forums we see hundreds of members "posting picks." But there's no accountability on the internet; people can make up anything. Let's be candid here: few of those are actually betting significant sums (despite boasts to the contrary) and even fewer are achieving sigificant profits (despite false boasts to the contrary) Next ryoshiiis #1 alias is back on and attacking Really So I’m located in FL Tampa Bay Hyde Park area to be exact Look at the IP ADDRESS NOT IN KC. Look when I joined Genius. Again nothing is near the same as Ryoshiii So all this BS that was posted, and JJ Woods called you out on is FACT. What the hell or who the hell do you think you are? Again, if your a MOD look me up Oddsbuster52 IP ADDRESS CUZ
Well said…I’ve also been attacked as being a Ryoshi alias….its absurd the pot calling the kettle black here. 100% zircon/kelly and a handful of other posters are most likely the same GESTAPO.
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Quote Originally Posted by OddsBuster52:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by zircon: About records, units, money management, and aslo bullsh*t! What follows is a long series of posts linked together because this dissertation cannot fit into one single post.Please read them all before commenting Although I am very well read about sports betting, my actual results at achieving consistent profit are mediocre. This is why I track other successful handicappers in hopes I might learn tips from their skills to improve my own. I do not "tail" anyone's bets, but I do watch them to hopefully confirm my own selections are on the right side, as I am sure many others do as well. What is the goal of Sports Betting?The goal of sports betting is to achieve profit. Period. I have noted 6 distinct methods for bettors to attempt to achieve this goal: 1. Good handicapping! Achieving many more wins than losses. 2. Tailing bettors who are achieving significant, winning records.3. Big hits! Betting much more on key events, to overcome mediocre W/L record4. Huge volume of bets, using multiplication factor despite tiny profit margins5. Moneyline betting mostly on dogs, typically ML sports (W/L record is irrelevent)6. Arbitrage betting (W/L record is irrelevent) On sports gambling forums the first listed "Good handicapping" is the most prominent. To achieve profit this way, consistently over time, requires good handicapping skill. The main focus of my discussion centers around this. On internet sports forums we see hundreds of members "posting picks." But there's no accountability on the internet; people can make up anything. Let's be candid here: few of those are actually betting significant sums (despite boasts to the contrary) and even fewer are achieving sigificant profits (despite false boasts to the contrary) Next ryoshiiis #1 alias is back on and attacking Really So I’m located in FL Tampa Bay Hyde Park area to be exact Look at the IP ADDRESS NOT IN KC. Look when I joined Genius. Again nothing is near the same as Ryoshiii So all this BS that was posted, and JJ Woods called you out on is FACT. What the hell or who the hell do you think you are? Again, if your a MOD look me up Oddsbuster52 IP ADDRESS CUZ
Well said…I’ve also been attacked as being a Ryoshi alias….its absurd the pot calling the kettle black here. 100% zircon/kelly and a handful of other posters are most likely the same GESTAPO.
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So I’m located in FL Tampa Bay Hyde Park area to be exact Look at the IP ADDRESS NOT IN KC. 
A record does not include how much money allegedly bet/won (or lost)
you created an account to post an agreement and outside of the political forums 
100% zircon/kelly and a handful of other posters are most likely the same GESTAPO. 
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