that was not your point at all. on sept 17 the truth will be told,
victor ortiz+500
Back to Ortiz, even is he is faster and stronger (which I doubt), a boxing technician with any skill will with pick a medicre boxer apart. Remember Manny with bad footwork and mostly one handed was dominated by an older, slower, weaker but master boxer named Morales. Look what Morales did to Maidana and exposed he is just a slugger (Khan beat Maidana as expected). This shows Ortiz tried to go punch for punch with a slugger (Maidana) and Berto hit him with bombs because he left himself so exposed (lucky for him Berto has no real KO power; and Berto was rated #4 pound-for-pound and I agree with thesoulpurpose he was media creation after watching him live twice).
If Ortiz had better training and more experience he has the physical skill and appears to be intelligent which could make him a pound for pound best. The Berto fight he took chances that were not needed, he could have won just with his jab and 2-3 combos because Berto would have been worn down late. Instead he got floored twice and gave Berto a psychological chance as where he could have just shut him down with good fundamentals being the much stronger fighter.
I stated before, Mayweather pounced for this fight because Ortiz doesn't have the ring experience and boxing fundamentals. Yes this will be the most talented athlete Mayweather has fought, but Mayweather is just on a way higher level.
Back to Ortiz, even is he is faster and stronger (which I doubt), a boxing technician with any skill will with pick a medicre boxer apart. Remember Manny with bad footwork and mostly one handed was dominated by an older, slower, weaker but master boxer named Morales. Look what Morales did to Maidana and exposed he is just a slugger (Khan beat Maidana as expected). This shows Ortiz tried to go punch for punch with a slugger (Maidana) and Berto hit him with bombs because he left himself so exposed (lucky for him Berto has no real KO power; and Berto was rated #4 pound-for-pound and I agree with thesoulpurpose he was media creation after watching him live twice).
If Ortiz had better training and more experience he has the physical skill and appears to be intelligent which could make him a pound for pound best. The Berto fight he took chances that were not needed, he could have won just with his jab and 2-3 combos because Berto would have been worn down late. Instead he got floored twice and gave Berto a psychological chance as where he could have just shut him down with good fundamentals being the much stronger fighter.
I stated before, Mayweather pounced for this fight because Ortiz doesn't have the ring experience and boxing fundamentals. Yes this will be the most talented athlete Mayweather has fought, but Mayweather is just on a way higher level.
USC + 3.5 at home vs syracuse, one of the strangest lines that I have seen in a while, I will hammer USC although in situations like this it usually goes the opposite way that seems logical, meaning a cuse win, I simply do not see that happening though, USC +3.5 big
USC - 16.5.... Were you getting your lines at
I would be rich![]()
USC + 3.5 at home vs syracuse, one of the strangest lines that I have seen in a while, I will hammer USC although in situations like this it usually goes the opposite way that seems logical, meaning a cuse win, I simply do not see that happening though, USC +3.5 big
USC - 16.5.... Were you getting your lines at
I would be rich![]()
Against Maidana, Ortiz showed his mental fragility. I don't care what excuses he used, the guy quit when the pressure came on. With Floyd it's usually safer to play the points, but I think the occasion is too much and we see Ortiz's mental frailties come back into play. I am playing Floyd +200 to win by KO/TKO
Against Maidana, Ortiz showed his mental fragility. I don't care what excuses he used, the guy quit when the pressure came on. With Floyd it's usually safer to play the points, but I think the occasion is too much and we see Ortiz's mental frailties come back into play. I am playing Floyd +200 to win by KO/TKO
Whatever book is offering +400 needs to be dropped immediately. STILL +635 on 5dimes...
Whatever book is offering +400 needs to be dropped immediately. STILL +635 on 5dimes...
USC - 16.5.... Were you getting your lines at
I would be rich![]()
USC - 16.5.... Were you getting your lines at
I would be rich![]()
go to matchups on this site and check out what it opened at, it was cuse -3.5, witch is obviously fucked up, their were 3 major sports books who had the line at that on sunday night, unfortunatly my book does not release lines until monday morning and by then the line was what it should be USC-15 and since has moved up. I was about to bet my bankroll on it, now it's a no play for me, I did get it at cuse -3.5 on one of the contests on this site though,
why post that shit here?
go to matchups on this site and check out what it opened at, it was cuse -3.5, witch is obviously fucked up, their were 3 major sports books who had the line at that on sunday night, unfortunatly my book does not release lines until monday morning and by then the line was what it should be USC-15 and since has moved up. I was about to bet my bankroll on it, now it's a no play for me, I did get it at cuse -3.5 on one of the contests on this site though,
why post that shit here?
There is NO value in betting Ortiz. This guy drew a fight with Lamont Peterson! He is no where near Floyd's league. Floyd could have 10 years off and still beat Ortiz who is way to limited a fighter to give Floyd trouble.
Against Maidana, Ortiz showed his mental fragility. I don't care what excuses he used, the guy quit when the pressure came on. With Floyd it's usually safer to play the points, but I think the occasion is too much and we see Ortiz's mental frailties come back into play. I am playing Floyd +200 to win by KO/TKO
There is NO value in betting Ortiz. This guy drew a fight with Lamont Peterson! He is no where near Floyd's league. Floyd could have 10 years off and still beat Ortiz who is way to limited a fighter to give Floyd trouble.
Against Maidana, Ortiz showed his mental fragility. I don't care what excuses he used, the guy quit when the pressure came on. With Floyd it's usually safer to play the points, but I think the occasion is too much and we see Ortiz's mental frailties come back into play. I am playing Floyd +200 to win by KO/TKO
of course it's hard for you to post, you believe that the B level/ mentally weak ortiz is somehow going to destroy the all time great mayweather,
of course it's hard for you to post, you believe that the B level/ mentally weak ortiz is somehow going to destroy the all time great mayweather,
IMO, Floyd ITD is the least likely outcome. Most likely is Floyd by decision (overwhelmingly likely). Then Ortiz ITD, Ortiz decision.
IMO, Floyd ITD is the least likely outcome. Most likely is Floyd by decision (overwhelmingly likely). Then Ortiz ITD, Ortiz decision.
his biggest win, you obviously did not follow floyds career when he was fghting at 130-135 to say such nonesence, you do realize that you just said that ortiz's win over berto was bigger than anything that floyd has ever done and that simply means that you are not even on a level high enough to talk to me, sorry
If he isn't on your level why comment in the first place? Your a joke.
his biggest win, you obviously did not follow floyds career when he was fghting at 130-135 to say such nonesence, you do realize that you just said that ortiz's win over berto was bigger than anything that floyd has ever done and that simply means that you are not even on a level high enough to talk to me, sorry
If he isn't on your level why comment in the first place? Your a joke.
If he isn't on your level why comment in the first place? Your a joke.
If he isn't on your level why comment in the first place? Your a joke.
The back and forth here is hilarious. Fact: Ortiz is bigger and slower so that makes Mayweather is smaller and faster. You have to take into consideration ringsmanship, experience heart etc. All of these are advantage - Mayweather. Come Sunday morning, headlines will read: Mayweather wins by TKO. Nuff Said !!!
When have we ever seen Mayweather's heart tested? Ortiz showed a ton of heart in the Berto fight.
The back and forth here is hilarious. Fact: Ortiz is bigger and slower so that makes Mayweather is smaller and faster. You have to take into consideration ringsmanship, experience heart etc. All of these are advantage - Mayweather. Come Sunday morning, headlines will read: Mayweather wins by TKO. Nuff Said !!!
When have we ever seen Mayweather's heart tested? Ortiz showed a ton of heart in the Berto fight.
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