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MarkDogg

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Posted: Sep. 5, 2011 - 3:19 AM ET #1

yea fucking right

floyd will drop this dude before the 11th round so take the under,ortiz leaves himself open to much with counters,one of the best thing mayweather does.

rzagza

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Posted: Sep. 6, 2011 - 3:25 AM ET #2

Mayweather doesnt go for KO's. Ever. Ortiz wont get KO'd by a 1 shot counter. Floyd isnt an all offense attack animal like Maidana, who is offense only. Floyd is defense first, second and third, he doesnt open up and leave himself vulnerable. He may knock Ortiz down with a counter, but he wont knock him out with it. Ortiz isnt a runt midget like Hatton. Ortiz is a healthy 147 lb fighter. Hatton was a blown up lightweight. Floyd hasnt stopped a true welterweight in....years.

Floyd UD.

SawLo

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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 4:03 PM ET #3

mayweather all the way. the under is looking good for an action bet. It is true that Mayweather looks for points over power, but hes got so much more skill and talent in comparison to Ortiz that he just might get a KO. Just like Hatton.

walktheline

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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 5:21 PM ET #4

Mayweather has absolutely zero chance of knocking out Ortiz. Zip, zero, zilch, nadda. Not nearly a big enough puncher or active/aggressive enough. To me, that's the only outcome you can easily rule out in this fight.

rzagza

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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 11:37 PM ET #5

I always giggle when I go to a local bar to watch a big fight and hear idiots in the crowd saying "yea man I bet on Mayweather by KO". I just laugh at them. And then when they see how defensive and technical he is, they say he "sucks" after winning a 119-109 decision.

Amateurs. Mayweather is like Hopkins. He doesnt knock dudes out unless he gets really lucky.

frank the tank

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Posted: Sep. 7, 2011 - 11:49 PM ET #6

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

Mayweather has absolutely zero chance of knocking out Ortiz. Zip, zero, zilch, nadda. Not nearly a big enough puncher or active/aggressive enough. To me, that's the only outcome you can easily rule out in this fight.

Mayweather will hit him all night with right hands...the decision is a smart choice but a stoppage of some sort or Ortiz quitting definitely is not impossible.

walktheline

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Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 1:26 AM ET #7

Rzagza = bingo.

Frank, c'mon man. Ortiz is going to quit? He's already come back from places Mayweather has never had to go. I'm wondering what FLOYD will do after he gets knocked down and is in serious trouble...

I still feel Floyd is going to stay in the pocket, thus getting knocked out. If Mayweather does beat that ass, it will be the most impressive victory of his career by a wide margin.

MarkDogg

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Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 2:41 AM ET #8

rzagza make your own thread with your own bullshit in it next time i dont care to heard why youre going against my play fucking amateurs what a piece of shit you are,this is the reason covers has a black eye already people like your ignorant ass.I know what floyd has done in the past,and everything else.i really dont care who gets ko stopped etc but i feel floyd would do it.over ortiz.If you people on covers dont like people plays just do not respond in the thread.Its so simple.under 11 1/2 for plus money at 1 unit.peace

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Posted: Sep. 8, 2011 - 4:46 AM ET #9

Quote Originally Posted by MarkDogg:

rzagza make your own thread with your own bullshit in it next time i dont care to heard why youre going against my play fucking amateurs what a piece of shit you are,this is the reason covers has a black eye already people like your ignorant ass.I know what floyd has done in the past,and everything else.i really dont care who gets ko stopped etc but i feel floyd would do it.over ortiz.If you people on covers dont like people plays just do not respond in the thread.Its so simple.under 11 1/2 for plus money at 1 unit.peace

So only PBF ball hangers should comment??

PBF isn't a class act, he's a class LACKED.

gamblingallday

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Posted: Sep. 9, 2011 - 1:57 PM ET #10

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

Rzagza = bingo.

Frank, c'mon man. Ortiz is going to quit? He's already come back from places Mayweather has never had to go. I'm wondering what FLOYD will do after he gets knocked down and is in serious trouble...

I still feel Floyd is going to stay in the pocket, thus getting knocked out. If Mayweather does beat that ass, it will be the most impressive victory of his career by a wide margin.

Ortiz has quit in the ring, Mayweather hasnt. Thats a very big distinction. "They" say, once you quit in a fight, its becomes easier to quit again when you face adversity.

Also Mayweather has been hurt and dazed several times in the ring. He's always survived and without even going down. He not only has a great chin but he knows what to do in the ring when he's hurt.

And this isnt coming from a PBF fan.

NJDevils

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Posted: Sep. 9, 2011 - 8:36 PM ET #11

Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

So only PBF ball hangers should comment??

PBF isn't a class act, he's a class LACKED.

frank the tank

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Posted: Sep. 9, 2011 - 9:00 PM ET #12

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

Rzagza = bingo.

Frank, c'mon man. Ortiz is going to quit? He's already come back from places Mayweather has never had to go. I'm wondering what FLOYD will do after he gets knocked down and is in serious trouble...

I still feel Floyd is going to stay in the pocket, thus getting knocked out. If Mayweather does beat that ass, it will be the most impressive victory of his career by a wide margin.

I said its a possibility that he could quit...if someone does it once its always possible it could happen again. Ortiz will push the pace similar to Hatton which could lead to him running into a counter. Berto was hitting Ortiz with some clean right hands...so I can see those punishing Ortiz throughout the fight.

BOL

thesoulpurpose

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 2:05 AM ET #13

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

Rzagza = bingo.

Frank, c'mon man. Ortiz is going to quit? He's already come back from places Mayweather has never had to go. I'm wondering what FLOYD will do after he gets knocked down and is in serious trouble...

I still feel Floyd is going to stay in the pocket, thus getting knocked out. If Mayweather does beat that ass, it will be the most impressive victory of his career by a wide margin.

the most impressive victory of mayweathers career? ortiz is a B level fighter, in 50 years nobody will even remember his name, to say that it would(will) be the biggest win of floyds career is honestly one of the most absurd things that I have ever heard. floyd gets rid of the B level fighter somewhere around the 8th or 9th round,

walktheline

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 3:59 AM ET #14

Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

the most impressive victory of mayweathers career? ortiz is a B level fighter, in 50 years nobody will even remember his name, to say that it would(will) be the biggest win of floyds career is honestly one of the most absurd things that I have ever heard. floyd gets rid of the B level fighter somewhere around the 8th or 9th round,

You let me know the "big" wins, I'll start picking them apart. Ready.... GO!!

ParlayADay

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 5:33 PM ET #15

Take Ortiz inside the distance @ +690 if you think he'll win. No way he gets a decision against Floyd...boxing needs Floyd vs. Pacman too bad.

rangerz2478

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 5:34 PM ET #16

Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

So only PBF ball hangers should comment??

PBF isn't a class act, he's a class LACKED.

Typical Markdogg. Calls out other people for being ignorant when the shoe is clearly on the other foot.

MarkDogg

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 6:31 PM ET #17

typical rangerz eat a dick bitch

rangerz2478

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 6:42 PM ET #18

Quote Originally Posted by MarkDogg:

typical rangerz eat a dick bitch

Like usual, there isn't a single reasonable response you could present to defend yourself so you resort to this.

Sad, but expected.

MarkDogg

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 6:49 PM ET #19

i post a play i like guy comes in my thread telling me 100 reasons why it will be wrong,so i said something back thats all if anything you say gl or something even if you disagree with it.ortiz quit during a match QUIT.i dont care about all that shit he talking about this and that of what made him stronger,the dude QUIT 2 years ago in the ring,he leaves himself open to much floyd counter him enough he might just quit again if not fall head first.on the mat.under at plus money 1 unit

thesoulpurpose

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Posted: Sep. 10, 2011 - 10:51 PM ET #20

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

You let me know the "big" wins, I'll start picking them apart. Ready.... GO!!

Lets first talk about ortiz's big wins, that would actually be pretty hard as he does not have any, unless you call berto a big win, I however do not, berto was a media creation from the get go and one of the most overrated guys in the world, mayweather is simply on another level than ortiz and next saturday you will see this

proguy747

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Posted: Sep. 11, 2011 - 12:18 AM ET #21

Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

Lets first talk about ortiz's big wins, that would actually be pretty hard as he does not have any, unless you call berto a big win, I however do not, berto was a media creation from the get go and one of the most overrated guys in the world, mayweather is simply on another level than ortiz and next saturday you will see this

Ortiz is slow as xxck.... Floyd FTW

walktheline

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Posted: Sep. 11, 2011 - 8:53 AM ET #22

Berto would have easily been Floyd's biggest win. Much, much better than little Ricky, Marquez, DLH, etc. In fact, how is that even debatable?

thesoulpurpose

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Posted: Sep. 11, 2011 - 11:49 AM ET #23

his biggest win, you obviously did not follow floyds career when he was fghting at 130-135 to say such nonesence, you do realize that you just said that ortiz's win over berto was bigger than anything that floyd has ever done and that simply means that you are not even on a level high enough to talk to me, sorry

thesoulpurpose

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Posted: Sep. 11, 2011 - 11:56 AM ET #24

shit floyd has 10 wins bigger than if he had beaten the over hyped berto,

walktheline

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Posted: Sep. 11, 2011 - 12:50 PM ET #25

Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

his biggest win, you obviously did not follow floyds career when he was fghting at 130-135 to say such nonesence, you do realize that you just said that ortiz's win over berto was bigger than anything that floyd has ever done and that simply means that you are not even on a level high enough to talk to me, sorry

Exactly my point. Floyd isn't fighting a 130lb guy. He's fighting a huge 147lber. He simply doesn't have the power to hold off Ortiz. I stand firm that he'll get steamrolled. I'm not going back and forth arguing an unnecessary point. See you on the 17th. Good luck.

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