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Poor Pacquiao Camp + Focused Margarito = Upset?

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Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 8:18 PM ET #26

You dont have to KO a guy "stop" him.  Far from it.

Jerseyboy, I'm curious as to your nationality.  Getting your answer on that will shed alot of light in regard to your opinion on this fight...
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You dont have to KO a guy "stop" him.  Far from it.

Jerseyboy, I'm curious as to your nationality.  Getting your answer on that will shed alot of light in regard to your opinion on this fight...
 
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Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 9:05 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

You dont have to KO a guy "stop" him.  Far from it.

Jerseyboy, I'm curious as to your nationality.  Getting your answer on that will shed alot of light in regard to your opinion on this fight...


I'm actually Filipino, but not a Pacquiao fan.  Still, I've done my research and watched tape, and Pacquiao is getting stopped.  In fact, the 147 lb Margarito that stopped Cotto would beat Pacquiao, EASILY. 
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Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

You dont have to KO a guy "stop" him.  Far from it.

Jerseyboy, I'm curious as to your nationality.  Getting your answer on that will shed alot of light in regard to your opinion on this fight...


I'm actually Filipino, but not a Pacquiao fan.  Still, I've done my research and watched tape, and Pacquiao is getting stopped.  In fact, the 147 lb Margarito that stopped Cotto would beat Pacquiao, EASILY. 
 
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Posted: Nov. 1, 2010 - 2:52 AM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



I'm actually Filipino, but not a Pacquiao fan.  Still, I've done my research and watched tape, and Pacquiao is getting stopped.  In fact, the 147 lb Margarito that stopped Cotto would beat Pacquiao, EASILY. 


K.  Sounds good, man. 

My condolensces to you for your lost wages on this fight.  Cant say I didnt try to talk you out of it.  Good luck, you'll need it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



I'm actually Filipino, but not a Pacquiao fan.  Still, I've done my research and watched tape, and Pacquiao is getting stopped.  In fact, the 147 lb Margarito that stopped Cotto would beat Pacquiao, EASILY. 


K.  Sounds good, man. 

My condolensces to you for your lost wages on this fight.  Cant say I didnt try to talk you out of it.  Good luck, you'll need it.
 
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K.  Sounds good, man. 

My condolensces to you for your lost wages on this fight.  Cant say I didnt try to talk you out of it.  Good luck, you'll need it.


Remember in boxing styles make fights. 
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K.  Sounds good, man. 

My condolensces to you for your lost wages on this fight.  Cant say I didnt try to talk you out of it.  Good luck, you'll need it.


Remember in boxing styles make fights. 
 
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Posted: Nov. 1, 2010 - 6:54 PM ET #30

I have always liked Margarito made a ton when he beat Cotto, not sure if he cheated in that fight but I liked him a little bit here before watching 24/7

Have never bet vs Manny  (and with good reason so far) but I wonder if this is just 24/7 trying to hype the fight or if this is really a problem

They also tried to act like that clubfighter Hatton had a chance when he obviously did not

Margarito is bigger ,stronger and keeps coming forward but he did get the shit kicked out of him by Mosley.

Khan dominating Manny in sparring was
Maybe take a shot with Margarito...4-1 is a good price
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I have always liked Margarito made a ton when he beat Cotto, not sure if he cheated in that fight but I liked him a little bit here before watching 24/7

Have never bet vs Manny  (and with good reason so far) but I wonder if this is just 24/7 trying to hype the fight or if this is really a problem

They also tried to act like that clubfighter Hatton had a chance when he obviously did not

Margarito is bigger ,stronger and keeps coming forward but he did get the shit kicked out of him by Mosley.

Khan dominating Manny in sparring was
Maybe take a shot with Margarito...4-1 is a good price
 
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Posted: Nov. 1, 2010 - 7:25 PM ET #31

Pavlik off the undercard, FYI.  Drinking proble........ahem, rib injury.
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Pavlik off the undercard, FYI.  Drinking proble........ahem, rib injury.
 
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Posted: Nov. 1, 2010 - 7:40 PM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:



K.  Sounds good, man. 

My condolensces to you for your lost wages on this fight.  Cant say I didnt try to talk you out of it.  Good luck, you'll need it.


You really need to start considering the realistic possibility "Manny Mania" has hit a brick wall. If you REALLY feel that Manny will run through a pressure fighter that is OVER half a foot taller and walks around at about 180lbs you're crazy.

The thing I'm standing firm on - Manny will not stop Margarito. The second thing? Given the circumstances, there is not good reason why valid currency should be placed on Manny at such silly odds. MAYBE a play on Manny via points. Anything else is silly.
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K.  Sounds good, man. 

My condolensces to you for your lost wages on this fight.  Cant say I didnt try to talk you out of it.  Good luck, you'll need it.


You really need to start considering the realistic possibility "Manny Mania" has hit a brick wall. If you REALLY feel that Manny will run through a pressure fighter that is OVER half a foot taller and walks around at about 180lbs you're crazy.

The thing I'm standing firm on - Manny will not stop Margarito. The second thing? Given the circumstances, there is not good reason why valid currency should be placed on Manny at such silly odds. MAYBE a play on Manny via points. Anything else is silly.
 
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Posted: Nov. 1, 2010 - 10:01 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



You really need to start considering the realistic possibility "Manny Mania" has hit a brick wall. If you REALLY feel that Manny will run through a pressure fighter that is OVER half a foot taller and walks around at about 180lbs you're crazy.

The thing I'm standing firm on - Manny will not stop Margarito. The second thing? Given the circumstances, there is not good reason why valid currency should be placed on Manny at such silly odds. MAYBE a play on Manny via points. Anything else is silly.


I think the play is easy.  Margarito by KO @ +660 with a straddle with Pacquiao by decision @ +320.  Pacquiao is not going to stop Margarito.  It just won't happen. 
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You really need to start considering the realistic possibility "Manny Mania" has hit a brick wall. If you REALLY feel that Manny will run through a pressure fighter that is OVER half a foot taller and walks around at about 180lbs you're crazy.

The thing I'm standing firm on - Manny will not stop Margarito. The second thing? Given the circumstances, there is not good reason why valid currency should be placed on Manny at such silly odds. MAYBE a play on Manny via points. Anything else is silly.


I think the play is easy.  Margarito by KO @ +660 with a straddle with Pacquiao by decision @ +320.  Pacquiao is not going to stop Margarito.  It just won't happen. 
 
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Posted: Nov. 2, 2010 - 12:12 AM ET #34

There's nothing to suggest "Manny Mania" has hit a brick wall, besides typical blind faith mexican homerism, or natural born stupidity.

There's plenty to suggest "Margo Mania" has hit a brick wall, due to the bricks in his gloves being MIA.

Like I said....best of luck.
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There's nothing to suggest "Manny Mania" has hit a brick wall, besides typical blind faith mexican homerism, or natural born stupidity.

There's plenty to suggest "Margo Mania" has hit a brick wall, due to the bricks in his gloves being MIA.

Like I said....best of luck.
 
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Posted: Nov. 2, 2010 - 12:17 AM ET #35

By the way, Jerseyboy, I call absolute BS on you being "filipino".  Your last 3 posts are of you blowing Rafa Marquez, Margarito, and JC Chavez Sr...Hmm what do those 3 have in common?
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By the way, Jerseyboy, I call absolute BS on you being "filipino".  Your last 3 posts are of you blowing Rafa Marquez, Margarito, and JC Chavez Sr...Hmm what do those 3 have in common?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

By the way, Jerseyboy, I call absolute BS on you being "filipino".  Your last 3 posts are of you blowing Rafa Marquez, Margarito, and JC Chavez Sr...Hmm what do those 3 have in common?


I already created a thread 3 weeks ago in which I belive Katsidis will defeat JMM.  There goes your stupid theory.
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By the way, Jerseyboy, I call absolute BS on you being "filipino".  Your last 3 posts are of you blowing Rafa Marquez, Margarito, and JC Chavez Sr...Hmm what do those 3 have in common?


I already created a thread 3 weeks ago in which I belive Katsidis will defeat JMM.  There goes your stupid theory.
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89]

I already created a thread 3 weeks ago in which I belive Katsidis will defeat JMM.  There goes your stupid theory.


SO you like Margarito, Katsidis, and R Marquez.. pick every big dog eventually you'll get one right.. Is that the strategy?  And btw i have never met a Filipino that would dare to even think against manny being the greatest gift from god ever created.. I'll leave it at that GL champ
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89]

I already created a thread 3 weeks ago in which I belive Katsidis will defeat JMM.  There goes your stupid theory.


SO you like Margarito, Katsidis, and R Marquez.. pick every big dog eventually you'll get one right.. Is that the strategy?  And btw i have never met a Filipino that would dare to even think against manny being the greatest gift from god ever created.. I'll leave it at that GL champ
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KingHenry30:

Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



I already created a thread 3 weeks ago in which I belive Katsidis will defeat JMM.  There goes your stupid theory.


SO you like Margarito, Katsidis, and R Marquez.. pick every big dog eventually you'll get one right.. Is that the strategy?  And btw i have never met a Filipino that would dare to even think against manny being the greatest gift from god ever created.. I'll leave it at that GL champ


You're a loser.  Styles make fights.  Every boxer out there can lose.  Ali lost in his prime.  SRL lost in his prime. 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



I already created a thread 3 weeks ago in which I belive Katsidis will defeat JMM.  There goes your stupid theory.


SO you like Margarito, Katsidis, and R Marquez.. pick every big dog eventually you'll get one right.. Is that the strategy?  And btw i have never met a Filipino that would dare to even think against manny being the greatest gift from god ever created.. I'll leave it at that GL champ


You're a loser.  Styles make fights.  Every boxer out there can lose.  Ali lost in his prime.  SRL lost in his prime. 
 
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Pac is going to stop Margacheeto.  why so much interest in this fight
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Pac is going to stop Margacheeto.  why so much interest in this fight
 
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Quote Originally Posted by EricLinny:

Pac is going to stop Margacheeto.  why so much interest in this fight


8 or 9 rounds against a statue DLH, Cotto went 12, Clottey went 12 without a scratch...and you think he's going to stop Margarito @ 150 lbs??

Ha, good one.  Pacquiao is getting stopped. 
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Pac is going to stop Margacheeto.  why so much interest in this fight


8 or 9 rounds against a statue DLH, Cotto went 12, Clottey went 12 without a scratch...and you think he's going to stop Margarito @ 150 lbs??

Ha, good one.  Pacquiao is getting stopped. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



8 or 9 rounds against a statue DLH, Cotto went 12, Clottey went 12 without a scratch...and you think he's going to stop Margarito @ 150 lbs??

Ha, good one.  Pacquiao is getting stopped. 

 

You're going to make a ton of money in the next few weeks, with all the big underdogs that you're going to hit.

 

Or be broke.

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8 or 9 rounds against a statue DLH, Cotto went 12, Clottey went 12 without a scratch...and you think he's going to stop Margarito @ 150 lbs??

Ha, good one.  Pacquiao is getting stopped. 

 

You're going to make a ton of money in the next few weeks, with all the big underdogs that you're going to hit.

 

Or be broke.

 
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Jerseyboy listen and listen good. When it comes to boxing, I am theee man. I am telling you Margarito has less then 0% of beating Pacquaio. This will be an absolute beatdown and I will be back closer to the fight to explain why. When this happens as I have called it, then I expect you to come back here and apologise to the regulars. From reading your posts its clear u know little about the sport.

 

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Jerseyboy listen and listen good. When it comes to boxing, I am theee man. I am telling you Margarito has less then 0% of beating Pacquaio. This will be an absolute beatdown and I will be back closer to the fight to explain why. When this happens as I have called it, then I expect you to come back here and apologise to the regulars. From reading your posts its clear u know little about the sport.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

Jerseyboy listen and listen good. When it comes to boxing, I am theee man. I am telling you Margarito has less then 0% of beating Pacquaio. This will be an absolute beatdown and I will be back closer to the fight to explain why. When this happens as I have called it, then I expect you to come back here and apologise to the regulars. From reading your posts its clear u know little about the sport.

 



Well put brother, not gonna try to pretend im something that i am not.. Big Pac fan-yes, big boxing fan-damn right, but when it comes to capping, I look to you   Not to say there are not other solid regulars in this forum because there certainly are
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Jerseyboy listen and listen good. When it comes to boxing, I am theee man. I am telling you Margarito has less then 0% of beating Pacquaio. This will be an absolute beatdown and I will be back closer to the fight to explain why. When this happens as I have called it, then I expect you to come back here and apologise to the regulars. From reading your posts its clear u know little about the sport.

 



Well put brother, not gonna try to pretend im something that i am not.. Big Pac fan-yes, big boxing fan-damn right, but when it comes to capping, I look to you   Not to say there are not other solid regulars in this forum because there certainly are
 
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too much 3 stooges and cartoons in your head JERSEY my BOY...dont waste your $$$ ...you'll thank me later my bro ...
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too much 3 stooges and cartoons in your head JERSEY my BOY...dont waste your $$$ ...you'll thank me later my bro ...
 
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lets see I guess this would be a good fight between pacman and margarito.
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lets see I guess this would be a good fight between pacman and margarito.
 
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Judging from last 2 fights of Margo after the brick incident at best a  "C" fighter. This is all a hype and i believe Margo will get a lot of  punishment than the suspension he previously received. Margo is too slow and swings to wild and he will get counter by multiple combos coming from diff directions. By the time Antonio reload to fire his own another combo is coming.. Best of Luck.
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Judging from last 2 fights of Margo after the brick incident at best a  "C" fighter. This is all a hype and i believe Margo will get a lot of  punishment than the suspension he previously received. Margo is too slow and swings to wild and he will get counter by multiple combos coming from diff directions. By the time Antonio reload to fire his own another combo is coming.. Best of Luck.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Teaman:

Judging from last 2 fights of Margo after the brick incident at best a  "C" fighter. This is all a hype and i believe Margo will get a lot of  punishment than the suspension he previously received. Margo is too slow and swings to wild and he will get counter by multiple combos coming from diff directions. By the time Antonio reload to fire his own another combo is coming.. Best of Luck.


Margarito is always slower than his opponent.  Contrary to relive, he's a tactician in the ring.  Also, his wide wild shots will not allow Pacquiao to dart to the side like he wants too or he will get caught with shots. Also, you really belive Pacquiao will throw multiple combination against Margarito.  That's ridiculous.  In fact if he does that, he's playing into Margaritos hands.  Look at the stats, Margarito throws more punches than Pacquiao. 

Pacquiao will fight the exact same fight he did against DLH.  Which was throw pot shots and try and dart and move.  This time though, he's fighting a live opponent and a fighter who is a master at cutting the ring off.  Add to the fact that Margarito's volume of punching will force the issues on Pacquiao...Pacquiao has no shot.  This fight is a mismatch.  Bet the house on Margarito. 
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Judging from last 2 fights of Margo after the brick incident at best a  "C" fighter. This is all a hype and i believe Margo will get a lot of  punishment than the suspension he previously received. Margo is too slow and swings to wild and he will get counter by multiple combos coming from diff directions. By the time Antonio reload to fire his own another combo is coming.. Best of Luck.


Margarito is always slower than his opponent.  Contrary to relive, he's a tactician in the ring.  Also, his wide wild shots will not allow Pacquiao to dart to the side like he wants too or he will get caught with shots. Also, you really belive Pacquiao will throw multiple combination against Margarito.  That's ridiculous.  In fact if he does that, he's playing into Margaritos hands.  Look at the stats, Margarito throws more punches than Pacquiao. 

Pacquiao will fight the exact same fight he did against DLH.  Which was throw pot shots and try and dart and move.  This time though, he's fighting a live opponent and a fighter who is a master at cutting the ring off.  Add to the fact that Margarito's volume of punching will force the issues on Pacquiao...Pacquiao has no shot.  This fight is a mismatch.  Bet the house on Margarito. 
 
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Margarito is always slower than his opponent.  Contrary to relive, he's a tactician in the ring.  Also, his wide wild shots will not allow Pacquiao to dart to the side like he wants too or he will get caught with shots. Also, you really belive Pacquiao will throw multiple combination against Margarito.  That's ridiculous.  In fact if he does that, he's playing into Margaritos hands.  Look at the stats, Margarito throws more punches than Pacquiao. 

Pacquiao will fight the exact same fight he did against DLH.  Which was throw pot shots and try and dart and move.  This time though, he's fighting a live opponent and a fighter who is a master at cutting the ring off.  Add to the fact that Margarito's volume of punching will force the issues on Pacquiao...Pacquiao has no shot.  This fight is a mismatch.  Bet the house on Margarito. 

I have read some nonsense on this site over the years but this utter tripe is the worst. It's clear u are only hear to stir up trouble (WUM I believe is the expression). Pacquaio is going to be throwing punches at speed and at angles that Margarito has never seen before. He will then use his footwork to avoid the walking punch bag all night. No way Arum/Roach risk their cash cow against a live opponent. Maybe Margarito of a few years ago this fight might have been insteresting but trust me he is a shadow of the fighter he was. If you are for real and u are betting the house on Margarito you will be homeless the day after the fight. Somehow though I doubt u are for real so please do the regulars on this forum a favour and crawl back under the rock u came from....

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Margarito is always slower than his opponent.  Contrary to relive, he's a tactician in the ring.  Also, his wide wild shots will not allow Pacquiao to dart to the side like he wants too or he will get caught with shots. Also, you really belive Pacquiao will throw multiple combination against Margarito.  That's ridiculous.  In fact if he does that, he's playing into Margaritos hands.  Look at the stats, Margarito throws more punches than Pacquiao. 

Pacquiao will fight the exact same fight he did against DLH.  Which was throw pot shots and try and dart and move.  This time though, he's fighting a live opponent and a fighter who is a master at cutting the ring off.  Add to the fact that Margarito's volume of punching will force the issues on Pacquiao...Pacquiao has no shot.  This fight is a mismatch.  Bet the house on Margarito. 

I have read some nonsense on this site over the years but this utter tripe is the worst. It's clear u are only hear to stir up trouble (WUM I believe is the expression). Pacquaio is going to be throwing punches at speed and at angles that Margarito has never seen before. He will then use his footwork to avoid the walking punch bag all night. No way Arum/Roach risk their cash cow against a live opponent. Maybe Margarito of a few years ago this fight might have been insteresting but trust me he is a shadow of the fighter he was. If you are for real and u are betting the house on Margarito you will be homeless the day after the fight. Somehow though I doubt u are for real so please do the regulars on this forum a favour and crawl back under the rock u came from....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

I have read some nonsense on this site over the years but this utter tripe is the worst. It's clear u are only hear to stir up trouble (WUM I believe is the expression). Pacquaio is going to be throwing punches at speed and at angles that Margarito has never seen before. He will then use his footwork to avoid the walking punch bag all night. No way Arum/Roach risk their cash cow against a live opponent. Maybe Margarito of a few years ago this fight might have been insteresting but trust me he is a shadow of the fighter he was. If you are for real and u are betting the house on Margarito you will be homeless the day after the fight. Somehow though I doubt u are for real so please do the regulars on this forum a favour and crawl back under the rock u came from....



Roach never wanted this fight.  Therefor, you're argument fails. 

See yea after the fight.  I love the gamblers on here who think Pacquiao is some god figure who can't lose.  Newsflash the greatest fighters in the world have lost in their prime.  A lot of complete clowns on here who don't follow boxing. 
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I have read some nonsense on this site over the years but this utter tripe is the worst. It's clear u are only hear to stir up trouble (WUM I believe is the expression). Pacquaio is going to be throwing punches at speed and at angles that Margarito has never seen before. He will then use his footwork to avoid the walking punch bag all night. No way Arum/Roach risk their cash cow against a live opponent. Maybe Margarito of a few years ago this fight might have been insteresting but trust me he is a shadow of the fighter he was. If you are for real and u are betting the house on Margarito you will be homeless the day after the fight. Somehow though I doubt u are for real so please do the regulars on this forum a favour and crawl back under the rock u came from....



Roach never wanted this fight.  Therefor, you're argument fails. 

See yea after the fight.  I love the gamblers on here who think Pacquiao is some god figure who can't lose.  Newsflash the greatest fighters in the world have lost in their prime.  A lot of complete clowns on here who don't follow boxing. 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:



Roach never wanted this fight.  Therefor, you're argument fails. 

See yea after the fight.  I love the gamblers on here who think Pacquiao is some god figure who can't lose.  Newsflash the greatest fighters in the world have lost in their prime.  A lot of complete clowns on here who don't follow boxing. 

Thank you.. Haven't laughed like this in a LONG time

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Roach never wanted this fight.  Therefor, you're argument fails. 

See yea after the fight.  I love the gamblers on here who think Pacquiao is some god figure who can't lose.  Newsflash the greatest fighters in the world have lost in their prime.  A lot of complete clowns on here who don't follow boxing. 

Thank you.. Haven't laughed like this in a LONG time

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