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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 6:22 PM ET #26

    I am with you on the Vlad analysis.  IMO, the money going on Sultan is public, bigtime.  Vlad has struggled against fighters that have one-punch power.  Many people are probably thinking that this is Sanders-Vlad all over again.  Not even close.

    When the southpaw Sanders was in shape, many people thought he was among the hardest hitters in the division, if not the hardest.  He lit Vlad up with two straight lefts that left him on queer street.  Devastating blows.

    Vlad has improved a lot since then.  And, IMO, Ibragimov's a marginal heavyweight puncher...nowhere near a Brewster, Peter or Sanders.  He never hurt Holyfield, and Holy stood directly in front of him for 12 rounds with 45-year old reflexes.  He employed a gun and run offense against Holy that will not work with Vlad due to the size disadvantage.

    I just can't see how Sultan can keep this competitive.  He is too small and way outmatched.  I expect Vlad will win by KO, but my shitty book doesn't offer it and I waited this out to -350.  At those odds, I don't see much value in taking the iffy KO at -150.  I was gonna nail this at -550, that's how confident I am.

    So, risking this week's winnings of 3800 to win 1085, Vlad to win.


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    I am with you on the Vlad analysis.  IMO, the money going on Sultan is public, bigtime.  Vlad has struggled against fighters that have one-punch power.  Many people are probably thinking that this is Sanders-Vlad all over again.  Not even close.

    When the southpaw Sanders was in shape, many people thought he was among the hardest hitters in the division, if not the hardest.  He lit Vlad up with two straight lefts that left him on queer street.  Devastating blows.

    Vlad has improved a lot since then.  And, IMO, Ibragimov's a marginal heavyweight puncher...nowhere near a Brewster, Peter or Sanders.  He never hurt Holyfield, and Holy stood directly in front of him for 12 rounds with 45-year old reflexes.  He employed a gun and run offense against Holy that will not work with Vlad due to the size disadvantage.

    I just can't see how Sultan can keep this competitive.  He is too small and way outmatched.  I expect Vlad will win by KO, but my shitty book doesn't offer it and I waited this out to -350.  At those odds, I don't see much value in taking the iffy KO at -150.  I was gonna nail this at -550, that's how confident I am.

    So, risking this week's winnings of 3800 to win 1085, Vlad to win.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 6:24 PM ET #27

    left him on queer street

    No pun intended.


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    left him on queer street

    No pun intended.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 7:37 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    Good call
     
    I went to that Anderson toughman last night.  It's going on again tonight.  I can't make it tonight for the finale, but it was pretty fun. 
     
     




    How was the turn out?  Any decent fighters or big KO's?


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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    Good call
     
    I went to that Anderson toughman last night.  It's going on again tonight.  I can't make it tonight for the finale, but it was pretty fun. 
     
     




    How was the turn out?  Any decent fighters or big KO's?


     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 7:48 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    I am with you on the Vlad analysis.  IMO, the money going on Sultan is public, bigtime.  Vlad has struggled against fighters that have one-punch power.  Many people are probably thinking that this is Sanders-Vlad all over again.  Not even close.

    When the southpaw Sanders was in shape, many people thought he was among the hardest hitters in the division, if not the hardest.  He lit Vlad up with two straight lefts that left him on queer street.  Devastating blows.

    Vlad has improved a lot since then.  And, IMO, Ibragimov's a marginal heavyweight puncher...nowhere near a Brewster, Peter or Sanders.  He never hurt Holyfield, and Holy stood directly in front of him for 12 rounds with 45-year old reflexes.  He employed a gun and run offense against Holy that will not work with Vlad due to the size disadvantage.

    I just can't see how Sultan can keep this competitive.  He is too small and way outmatched.  I expect Vlad will win by KO, but my shitty book doesn't offer it and I waited this out to -350.  At those odds, I don't see much value in taking the iffy KO at -150.  I was gonna nail this at -550, that's how confident I am.

    So, risking this week's winnings of 3800 to win 1085, Vlad to win.




    Good to see you weighing in, don't worry about that "Fat Wolf" bet.  I believe that you will get that money back tonight.

    We will see what happens tonight.  Wlad will always be one of those guys that you are nervous betting on no matter how good you feel about it.  I think this is the first time I have bet on Wlad since the Brewster debacle, though I did bet the second Brewster fight and the Austin fight to go under.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    I am with you on the Vlad analysis.  IMO, the money going on Sultan is public, bigtime.  Vlad has struggled against fighters that have one-punch power.  Many people are probably thinking that this is Sanders-Vlad all over again.  Not even close.

    When the southpaw Sanders was in shape, many people thought he was among the hardest hitters in the division, if not the hardest.  He lit Vlad up with two straight lefts that left him on queer street.  Devastating blows.

    Vlad has improved a lot since then.  And, IMO, Ibragimov's a marginal heavyweight puncher...nowhere near a Brewster, Peter or Sanders.  He never hurt Holyfield, and Holy stood directly in front of him for 12 rounds with 45-year old reflexes.  He employed a gun and run offense against Holy that will not work with Vlad due to the size disadvantage.

    I just can't see how Sultan can keep this competitive.  He is too small and way outmatched.  I expect Vlad will win by KO, but my shitty book doesn't offer it and I waited this out to -350.  At those odds, I don't see much value in taking the iffy KO at -150.  I was gonna nail this at -550, that's how confident I am.

    So, risking this week's winnings of 3800 to win 1085, Vlad to win.




    Good to see you weighing in, don't worry about that "Fat Wolf" bet.  I believe that you will get that money back tonight.

    We will see what happens tonight.  Wlad will always be one of those guys that you are nervous betting on no matter how good you feel about it.  I think this is the first time I have bet on Wlad since the Brewster debacle, though I did bet the second Brewster fight and the Austin fight to go under.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 7:48 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by getlowplayaz:

    i took wlad by dec. +350 5units, by ko -150, ml -400 10 units each

    sultan ml +300, by dec. +1100 5 units each



    This makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getlowplayaz:

    i took wlad by dec. +350 5units, by ko -150, ml -400 10 units each

    sultan ml +300, by dec. +1100 5 units each



    This makes no sense.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 7:53 PM ET #31

    Added a parlay....

    .5 of a unit to win .99
    Duddy-Smichet Under 7.5 (-155)
    Wlad (-335)
    Lopez (-1000)
    Dieppa (-370)


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    Added a parlay....

    .5 of a unit to win .99
    Duddy-Smichet Under 7.5 (-155)
    Wlad (-335)
    Lopez (-1000)
    Dieppa (-370)


     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 7:59 PM ET #32

    so here is what i did wlad ml -275 30 units!
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    so here is what i did wlad ml -275 30 units!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 8:36 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by getlowplayaz:

    so here is what i did wlad ml -275 30 units!


    Nice line, I never saw it lower than -305.  This still doesn't make the way you bet this fight any more sensible.  I hope you are right though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getlowplayaz:

    so here is what i did wlad ml -275 30 units!


    Nice line, I never saw it lower than -305.  This still doesn't make the way you bet this fight any more sensible.  I hope you are right though.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 8:56 PM ET #34

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    IF Wlad can look lighter on this feet, he nano is 2nite.

    Seeing the Dudddddy cut, that could possibly should have been a TKO against Duddddddy.

    Sultan is right there when he reaches in w/ the left to the body of Wlad for Wlad to crush him with his right. How tired and iced down must Wlad's Left be after 80 billion lead Jabs? I give Round 1 to Sultan, now 5-1 Wlad.

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    IF Wlad can look lighter on this feet, he nano is 2nite.

    Seeing the Dudddddy cut, that could possibly should have been a TKO against Duddddddy.

    Sultan is right there when he reaches in w/ the left to the body of Wlad for Wlad to crush him with his right. How tired and iced down must Wlad's Left be after 80 billion lead Jabs? I give Round 1 to Sultan, now 5-1 Wlad.

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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 11:03 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    IF Wlad can look lighter on this feet, he nano is 2nite.

    Seeing the Dudddddy cut, that could possibly should have been a TKO against Duddddddy.

    Sultan is right there when he reaches in w/ the left to the body of Wlad for Wlad to crush him with his right. How tired and iced down must Wlad's Left be after 80 billion lead Jabs? I give Round 1 to Sultan, now 5-1 Wlad.

    bigeiii


    This is only round 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    IF Wlad can look lighter on this feet, he nano is 2nite.

    Seeing the Dudddddy cut, that could possibly should have been a TKO against Duddddddy.

    Sultan is right there when he reaches in w/ the left to the body of Wlad for Wlad to crush him with his right. How tired and iced down must Wlad's Left be after 80 billion lead Jabs? I give Round 1 to Sultan, now 5-1 Wlad.

    bigeiii


    This is only round 6.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 11:21 PM ET #37

    Looks like my ITD plays are going up in smoke.  Throw more than 3 rights a round Wlad in these last couple.
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    Looks like my ITD plays are going up in smoke.  Throw more than 3 rights a round Wlad in these last couple.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2008 - 11:30 PM ET #38

    Manny must have bet on Wlad ITD also.  Thanks for trying.
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    Manny must have bet on Wlad ITD also.  Thanks for trying.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 12:41 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:





    How was the turn out?  Any decent fighters or big KO's?


    Turn out was pretty good honestly.  Got there 25 mins late, and still had to wait outside 20 mins before I got in.

    Normally there is piss for good matches in these things, but there were quite a few fights that were pretty close and went 3 rds, and the last fight was pretty good - Two guys who obviously had some ring experience (based on the way I saw them fight compared to the rest) went at it pretty good for three rounds.  They were both pretty cut, so I think they saved them for last for a reason, but it was worth it.

    I love going people watching at those things though. . .  Whoa buddy.

    Your gym was well represented there too.  I hope they benefited nicely, they ran a pretty good show.  I was impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:





    How was the turn out?  Any decent fighters or big KO's?


    Turn out was pretty good honestly.  Got there 25 mins late, and still had to wait outside 20 mins before I got in.

    Normally there is piss for good matches in these things, but there were quite a few fights that were pretty close and went 3 rds, and the last fight was pretty good - Two guys who obviously had some ring experience (based on the way I saw them fight compared to the rest) went at it pretty good for three rounds.  They were both pretty cut, so I think they saved them for last for a reason, but it was worth it.

    I love going people watching at those things though. . .  Whoa buddy.

    Your gym was well represented there too.  I hope they benefited nicely, they ran a pretty good show.  I was impressed.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 5:57 PM ET #40

    .5 of a unit to win .99
    Duddy-Smichet Under 7.5 (-155)
    Wlad (-335)
    Lopez (-1000)
    Dieppa (-370)

    1.5 unit parlay to win 1.62
    Alvarado (-250)
    Mijares (-390)
    Wlad (-550)

    .75 of a unit to win 1.14
    Gutierrez (-350)
    Barker (-700)
    Wlad ITD (-140)

    1.5 units on Klitschko ITD (-150)




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    .5 of a unit to win .99
    Duddy-Smichet Under 7.5 (-155)
    Wlad (-335)
    Lopez (-1000)
    Dieppa (-370)

    1.5 unit parlay to win 1.62
    Alvarado (-250)
    Mijares (-390)
    Wlad (-550)

    .75 of a unit to win 1.14
    Gutierrez (-350)
    Barker (-700)
    Wlad ITD (-140)

    1.5 units on Klitschko ITD (-150)




     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 6:06 PM ET #41

    Coulda, woulda, shoulda.  Second week in a row where I give back money on KO props in a fight I feel that I was pretty spot on with.  I knew Iggy wasn't in his league, but I think I along with Manny thought he would make the statement he needed to in a fight which was actually meaningful.  If you would have told me before the fight that Iggy wins at most 2 rounds and sees the final bell, I would have said no way, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

    LOL

    Won .14 of a unit for the week. 
    A measly $14.  



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    Coulda, woulda, shoulda.  Second week in a row where I give back money on KO props in a fight I feel that I was pretty spot on with.  I knew Iggy wasn't in his league, but I think I along with Manny thought he would make the statement he needed to in a fight which was actually meaningful.  If you would have told me before the fight that Iggy wins at most 2 rounds and sees the final bell, I would have said no way, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

    LOL

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