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    Final take on Froch/Taylor

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    nuttyrich
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 12:37 PM ET #1

    Okay I've seen enough of Froch on his past fights to see what he has to offer.

    Contrary to what people believe, FROCH is MORE Vulnerable when he is on the inside, he gets countered VERY EASILY.

    Carl Froch  is aggressive at times, he presses when he feels like it, I cannot see his tempo forcing Jermaine to tire.It will actually HELP Jermaine.

    Froch holds his left super low, and Jermaine has an amazing right hand.

    Froch slaps his jab, does use it at times, but he tends to LUNGE IN  and throw big punches, he throws at odd angles and that is his best weapon.

    He does has some hand speed, nothing quite like Jermaine's but he is not "super slow".

    Froch POSES a lot after he lands a good punch, not a smart move.

    Froch  to promised to change Pascals name to Picaso because he was going to "Paint him on the canvas" all night. That didn't happen.

    If one looks at the styles, Froch does a LOT of moving for someone who is supposed be to aggressive.

    Many think Froch gives up the early rounds and then drains Taylor,  in the latter rounds, actually his best chance is throwing this straight right from ODD Angles, he can punch with his left too and this must happen EARLY.

    Froch for all his macho talk is actually a THINKER in the ring, and he is NOT a FULL pressure fighter like Pavlik.

    Pavlik may be a straight forward straight down the middle jabber and  straight right hand( and a GREAT body puncher), but he is relentless on his attack, Froch is NOT. Froch will only attack if he sees openings.

    Jermaine is one of the better counter punchers in boxing and that will win him the fight as Froch will be countered and HURT.

    I love Jermaine in this fight!

    Froch is in way over his head, and the mere fact he stiffed his fans and chose a PPV event only, even though he was offered a handsome amount of money to air it on TV!

    This will come back to bite him in the ass, never screw the hand that feeds you.

    Go Jermaine!
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Okay I've seen enough of Froch on his past fights to see what he has to offer.

    Contrary to what people believe, FROCH is MORE Vulnerable when he is on the inside, he gets countered VERY EASILY.

    Carl Froch  is aggressive at times, he presses when he feels like it, I cannot see his tempo forcing Jermaine to tire.It will actually HELP Jermaine.

    Froch holds his left super low, and Jermaine has an amazing right hand.

    Froch slaps his jab, does use it at times, but he tends to LUNGE IN  and throw big punches, he throws at odd angles and that is his best weapon.

    He does has some hand speed, nothing quite like Jermaine's but he is not "super slow".

    Froch POSES a lot after he lands a good punch, not a smart move.

    Froch  to promised to change Pascals name to Picaso because he was going to "Paint him on the canvas" all night. That didn't happen.

    If one looks at the styles, Froch does a LOT of moving for someone who is supposed be to aggressive.

    Many think Froch gives up the early rounds and then drains Taylor,  in the latter rounds, actually his best chance is throwing this straight right from ODD Angles, he can punch with his left too and this must happen EARLY.

    Froch for all his macho talk is actually a THINKER in the ring, and he is NOT a FULL pressure fighter like Pavlik.

    Pavlik may be a straight forward straight down the middle jabber and  straight right hand( and a GREAT body puncher), but he is relentless on his attack, Froch is NOT. Froch will only attack if he sees openings.

    Jermaine is one of the better counter punchers in boxing and that will win him the fight as Froch will be countered and HURT.

    I love Jermaine in this fight!

    Froch is in way over his head, and the mere fact he stiffed his fans and chose a PPV event only, even though he was offered a handsome amount of money to air it on TV!

    This will come back to bite him in the ass, never screw the hand that feeds you.

    Go Jermaine!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:09 PM ET #2

    I haven't fired yet, but Ima go 270 to make 200 right before fight time.
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    I haven't fired yet, but Ima go 270 to make 200 right before fight time.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:14 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    I haven't fired yet, but Ima go 270 to make 200 right before fight time.



    Jermaine is down to -115   maybe jump on it now, I read a few sites have Froch slightly favored!

    Good Luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    I haven't fired yet, but Ima go 270 to make 200 right before fight time.



    Jermaine is down to -115   maybe jump on it now, I read a few sites have Froch slightly favored!

    Good Luck!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:17 PM ET #4

    Aight I'll check...I want to hear what Fullbrights has to say. Can someone pm him?

    Graham Houston is picking Froch...not that I listen to that old fart anyway.

    Thanks for the heads up Rich!
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    Aight I'll check...I want to hear what Fullbrights has to say. Can someone pm him?

    Graham Houston is picking Froch...not that I listen to that old fart anyway.

    Thanks for the heads up Rich!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:18 PM ET #5

    My book is stoic @ -135 still.
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    My book is stoic @ -135 still.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:24 PM ET #6

    Nuttyrich

    Sorry man don't mean to change the topic on your thread, but do any of you guys have anything on the STRUM FIGHT (info)?  If nothing else I would like to put him in one of my parlays.
    Thanks
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    Nuttyrich

    Sorry man don't mean to change the topic on your thread, but do any of you guys have anything on the STRUM FIGHT (info)?  If nothing else I would like to put him in one of my parlays.
    Thanks
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:27 PM ET #7

    Sturm will win with little to no problem...if that's what your asking.
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    Sturm will win with little to no problem...if that's what your asking.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:29 PM ET #8

    Plus its in Germany...
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    Plus its in Germany...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:40 PM ET #9

    I was watching JT.Lacey the other night and those 4 piece combo's Taylor was landing will easily find home plate on Froch's mug. I would NOT be surprised to see Froch get stopped mid fight.

    Only thing I'm worried about is how Taylor backs straight up when a guy is coming forward. He doesn't use lateral movement much and that's where I see Froch landing a right hand.

    My other worries was JT's heart, but he fought well in the late rounds against Lacey. My gut has been saying to NOT bet on Taylor all week, but I can't say why so I'm ignoring it.
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    I was watching JT.Lacey the other night and those 4 piece combo's Taylor was landing will easily find home plate on Froch's mug. I would NOT be surprised to see Froch get stopped mid fight.

    Only thing I'm worried about is how Taylor backs straight up when a guy is coming forward. He doesn't use lateral movement much and that's where I see Froch landing a right hand.

    My other worries was JT's heart, but he fought well in the late rounds against Lacey. My gut has been saying to NOT bet on Taylor all week, but I can't say why so I'm ignoring it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:44 PM ET #10

    I am in agreement here.  I think Jermain gets it done tonight.
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    I am in agreement here.  I think Jermain gets it done tonight.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 1:53 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    I am in agreement here.  I think Jermain gets it done tonight.


    Thank you sir...always liked your picks. I added you to my friends list...would appreciate it if you accepted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    I am in agreement here.  I think Jermain gets it done tonight.


    Thank you sir...always liked your picks. I added you to my friends list...would appreciate it if you accepted.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 4:11 PM ET #12

    I just got down on Taylor -130 with my local.  I also played the under in the JuanMa fight at -165. 
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    I just got down on Taylor -130 with my local.  I also played the under in the JuanMa fight at -165. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 4:15 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    I am in agreement here.  I think Jermain gets it done tonight.


    That's always nice to hear when we're in agreement

    Taylor down to -115 at 5 dimes

    I already locked in Taylor Decision @ +189 for a MAX wager
    Played -120 a little while back, but not for as much...

    Good Luck should be a good fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    I am in agreement here.  I think Jermain gets it done tonight.


    That's always nice to hear when we're in agreement

    Taylor down to -115 at 5 dimes

    I already locked in Taylor Decision @ +189 for a MAX wager
    Played -120 a little while back, but not for as much...

    Good Luck should be a good fight
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 7:01 PM ET #14

    I believe the early movement of Froch in some earlier bouts was due to his opponents style. He seems to try to counter an aggressive foe. I will be surprised if he moves backward against Taylor as much as he did against Hague. Anything is possible of course. We seem to see this fight at polarising points of view.It will be very interesting to see how it actually plays out. Enjoy!
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    I believe the early movement of Froch in some earlier bouts was due to his opponents style. He seems to try to counter an aggressive foe. I will be surprised if he moves backward against Taylor as much as he did against Hague. Anything is possible of course. We seem to see this fight at polarising points of view.It will be very interesting to see how it actually plays out. Enjoy!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 7:24 PM ET #15

    I got Taylor to win by KO $25 at +400
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    I got Taylor to win by KO $25 at +400
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 7:32 PM ET #16

    I got 270 to make 200 on Taylor and 29 to make 100 on Johnnie White. Tried to get another 30 in there but I missed the gate. I also missed the gate on the Sato fight. Too bad I didn't look him up on youtube earlier. Props to those who took it.
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    I got 270 to make 200 on Taylor and 29 to make 100 on Johnnie White. Tried to get another 30 in there but I missed the gate. I also missed the gate on the Sato fight. Too bad I didn't look him up on youtube earlier. Props to those who took it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 7:36 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Aight I'll check...I want to hear what Fullbrights has to say. Can someone pm him?

    Graham Houston is picking Froch...not that I listen to that old fart anyway.

    Thanks for the heads up Rich!


    i still respect graham's opinion.  am i wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Aight I'll check...I want to hear what Fullbrights has to say. Can someone pm him?

    Graham Houston is picking Froch...not that I listen to that old fart anyway.

    Thanks for the heads up Rich!


    i still respect graham's opinion.  am i wrong?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 8:26 PM ET #18

    I may take Taylor also but I was thinking. When was the last time he actually looked good in a fight?
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    I may take Taylor also but I was thinking. When was the last time he actually looked good in a fight?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 8:32 PM ET #19

    Taylor parlayed with Hatton next week pays 4.2 to 1.  Just saying. 
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    Taylor parlayed with Hatton next week pays 4.2 to 1.  Just saying. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 8:34 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    I got Taylor to win by KO $25 at +400


    Throw some on the decision brother...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    I got Taylor to win by KO $25 at +400


    Throw some on the decision brother...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 8:38 PM ET #21

    Hatton is going to get annihilated next week.

    Save your $
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    Hatton is going to get annihilated next week.

    Save your $
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 10:42 PM ET #22

    Nuttyrich I hope you keep to your end of the bargin and no longer post here. A bet is a bet. I was about to announce my retirement from this site. Not ANYMORE. Won big tonight. Will throw most of it on Pacman next week..
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    Nuttyrich I hope you keep to your end of the bargin and no longer post here. A bet is a bet. I was about to announce my retirement from this site. Not ANYMORE. Won big tonight. Will throw most of it on Pacman next week..
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 10:46 PM ET #23

    nutty ,,what up,,looks like the pundits nailed it , taylor fading in the closing rounds, couldnt even make it to the finsih and the hopes of a homer call on points, 
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    nutty ,,what up,,looks like the pundits nailed it , taylor fading in the closing rounds, couldnt even make it to the finsih and the hopes of a homer call on points, 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 10:53 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Nuttyrich I hope you keep to your end of the bargin and no longer post here. A bet is a bet. I was about to announce my retirement from this site. Not ANYMORE. Won big tonight. Will throw most of it on Pacman next week..


    Mack I thought we ended this dumb talk before we are only here to discuss boxing. I offered it to you when you were posting silly stuff. When you did the write up I gave you credit for an excellent write up and we all agreed this is what the forum is for.

    I never accepted a wager I offered it to you out of the silliness that was going on.

    Congrats to Carl Froch, Jermaine just needed to coast the 12th and he would have won an easy decision.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Nuttyrich I hope you keep to your end of the bargin and no longer post here. A bet is a bet. I was about to announce my retirement from this site. Not ANYMORE. Won big tonight. Will throw most of it on Pacman next week..


    Mack I thought we ended this dumb talk before we are only here to discuss boxing. I offered it to you when you were posting silly stuff. When you did the write up I gave you credit for an excellent write up and we all agreed this is what the forum is for.

    I never accepted a wager I offered it to you out of the silliness that was going on.

    Congrats to Carl Froch, Jermaine just needed to coast the 12th and he would have won an easy decision.


     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 10:56 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    nutty ,,what up,,looks like the pundits nailed it , taylor fading in the closing rounds, couldnt even make it to the finsih and the hopes of a homer call on points, 


    Actually Jermaine just needed to simply jab and hold the 12th, and he would have won easily.  I still consider my pick to be a good one, I take nothing away from Carl Froch he tasted the canvas for the first time and got up.

    Carl Froch owes his corner BIG TIME as he took their advice, when Froch stopped the silly swinging he did much better.

    I don't see why Jermaine tried so hard to rumble in the 12th when he was ahead, but a loss is a loss, Congrats to Froch for sticking in for 12 and not giving up even though he was behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    nutty ,,what up,,looks like the pundits nailed it , taylor fading in the closing rounds, couldnt even make it to the finsih and the hopes of a homer call on points, 


    Actually Jermaine just needed to simply jab and hold the 12th, and he would have won easily.  I still consider my pick to be a good one, I take nothing away from Carl Froch he tasted the canvas for the first time and got up.

    Carl Froch owes his corner BIG TIME as he took their advice, when Froch stopped the silly swinging he did much better.

    I don't see why Jermaine tried so hard to rumble in the 12th when he was ahead, but a loss is a loss, Congrats to Froch for sticking in for 12 and not giving up even though he was behind.
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