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    stan23
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:12 PM ET #51

    ok or maybe he head butted him 5 times.
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    ok or maybe he head butted him 5 times.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:14 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by stan23:

    ok or maybe he head butted him 5 times.

    LOL My eye was burning and he head butted me!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan23:

    ok or maybe he head butted him 5 times.

    LOL My eye was burning and he head butted me!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:15 PM ET #53

    dude whatever. it was a waste of a fight because bradley kept headbutting. 
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    dude whatever. it was a waste of a fight because bradley kept headbutting. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:18 PM ET #54

    Boxing shits the bed again.
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    Boxing shits the bed again.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:24 PM ET #55

    Stan, thats not fair. The butts were an excuse at the end
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    Stan, thats not fair. The butts were an excuse at the end
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:24 PM ET #56

    The better man won.
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    The better man won.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:32 PM ET #57

    Agreed better fighter won, Alexander would have been smarter to wait a few years before a fight like this.


    Let the division clear of the big names and then jump in, he doesn't have the stamina NOR heart to be a unified champion.

    While Bradley has some flaws (being too aggressive) he has  the style that boxing fans LOVE. - One Worth a Pac-man PPV.
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    Agreed better fighter won, Alexander would have been smarter to wait a few years before a fight like this.


    Let the division clear of the big names and then jump in, he doesn't have the stamina NOR heart to be a unified champion.

    While Bradley has some flaws (being too aggressive) he has  the style that boxing fans LOVE. - One Worth a Pac-man PPV.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:47 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by stan23:

    dude whatever. it was a waste of a fight because bradley kept headbutting. 

    lol u kiddin right? or is your twat as sore as devons
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    Quote Originally Posted by stan23:

    dude whatever. it was a waste of a fight because bradley kept headbutting. 

    lol u kiddin right? or is your twat as sore as devons
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:51 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    I've done a lot of work on the upcoming Alexander/Bradley fight. While these two are consider classic boxers, I feel this fight is going to be fought "in a phone booth" so to speak. Bradley, for whatever reason, feels the need to brawl when it isn't necessary to do so. Alexander is also more than willing to lay on the inside and trade shots too. I'm expecting an all action fight - exactly what these two continue say when being probed in the interviews I'm hearing/reading. There has also been a fair amount chatter between the two fighters.

    I'm chalking up Alexander's somewhat poor performance against Kotelnik to a couple reasons. He was fighting at home, was riding high off the Urango stoppage, wasn't expecting to work that hard, etc. I still feel he is the better fighter of the two, and by a moderate margin. He has fight changing power, something Bradley lacks. He also doesn't get himself into spots where he isn't fighting HIS fight, where as Bradley seems to fight with his "heart on his sleeve."

    I found some quotes from Bradley interesting..

    "My training regimen is more so new school and I have incorporated strength training as of August." (Yeah, great idea. Potentially take away from his biggest advantages of speed and cardio for the false sense of developing punching power, which you can't find overnight.)
     
     "We are getting closer to the 29th and as that is soon approaching there is more intensity in all that I do and I also start tapering off my workouts. At this point in my training camp I feel like every day has a moment like in the Rocky films.  When I am sparring or when I'm running and just feel like I have pushed myself to the limit and can't go any more I start to talk to myself and
    become the one that tells me to push it." (Wonderful time to get a respiratory illness huh? These quotes are probably just fight speak. Then again, they might be the hidden vigorish.)
     
    Bradley was knocked down by Holt two times in their fight. The first knockdown was from an uppercut followed by a left hook. The second? Another uppercut. Alexander's money punch? You guessed it, the right uppercut. The location of the fight is neutral but you much closer to Alexander's home of St. Louis. A pro Alexander crowd isn't out of the question.

    I am a bit worried that Bradley will bank rounds based on aggression alone. He might be able to get Alexander fighting backwards for a good portion of the early rounds. However, I expect Alexander to land the telling shots throughout the fight. If Alexander gets him in trouble, I expect him to close the deal. He appears to have that killer instinct that separates an above average fighter from an elite talent.

    Another concern I have is headbutts. Bradley is becoming notorious for leading with his head, as evidenced in the Campbell debacle and once again in the Abregu fight. I doubt it is intentional, but it is a reoccurring theme in his fights. It is also an orthodox/southpaw matchup.

    Alexander moved his camp back to Vegas for this
    fight. In the interview with Fightnews, he mentioned the fact he didn't return home for Christmas, even though he has children. This type of dedication hasn't been seen from Alexander up to this point. He talks of sleeping in Tyson's old bed. He is training and living like the best doing it. Now is the time for him to become the best, and I'm expecting it happen this weekend.

    So in short, I like Alexander in the fight, but I also like the "fight won't go the distance" prop being offered at +280 currently. All the necessary ingredients are in place. All action fight, Alexander's fight changing power, headbutt issues, biggest fight of their careers on the biggest stage for either fighter, chit chat between the two, and the list goes on.

    My final prediction: Alexander via knockout.  I'll be playing like this...

    Alexander +190, 10 units. Alexander via KO, +530, 3 units. Fight Won't Go The Distance, +280, 3 units.


    It was factored in dope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    I've done a lot of work on the upcoming Alexander/Bradley fight. While these two are consider classic boxers, I feel this fight is going to be fought "in a phone booth" so to speak. Bradley, for whatever reason, feels the need to brawl when it isn't necessary to do so. Alexander is also more than willing to lay on the inside and trade shots too. I'm expecting an all action fight - exactly what these two continue say when being probed in the interviews I'm hearing/reading. There has also been a fair amount chatter between the two fighters.

    I'm chalking up Alexander's somewhat poor performance against Kotelnik to a couple reasons. He was fighting at home, was riding high off the Urango stoppage, wasn't expecting to work that hard, etc. I still feel he is the better fighter of the two, and by a moderate margin. He has fight changing power, something Bradley lacks. He also doesn't get himself into spots where he isn't fighting HIS fight, where as Bradley seems to fight with his "heart on his sleeve."

    I found some quotes from Bradley interesting..

    "My training regimen is more so new school and I have incorporated strength training as of August." (Yeah, great idea. Potentially take away from his biggest advantages of speed and cardio for the false sense of developing punching power, which you can't find overnight.)
     
     "We are getting closer to the 29th and as that is soon approaching there is more intensity in all that I do and I also start tapering off my workouts. At this point in my training camp I feel like every day has a moment like in the Rocky films.  When I am sparring or when I'm running and just feel like I have pushed myself to the limit and can't go any more I start to talk to myself and
    become the one that tells me to push it." (Wonderful time to get a respiratory illness huh? These quotes are probably just fight speak. Then again, they might be the hidden vigorish.)
     
    Bradley was knocked down by Holt two times in their fight. The first knockdown was from an uppercut followed by a left hook. The second? Another uppercut. Alexander's money punch? You guessed it, the right uppercut. The location of the fight is neutral but you much closer to Alexander's home of St. Louis. A pro Alexander crowd isn't out of the question.

    I am a bit worried that Bradley will bank rounds based on aggression alone. He might be able to get Alexander fighting backwards for a good portion of the early rounds. However, I expect Alexander to land the telling shots throughout the fight. If Alexander gets him in trouble, I expect him to close the deal. He appears to have that killer instinct that separates an above average fighter from an elite talent.

    Another concern I have is headbutts. Bradley is becoming notorious for leading with his head, as evidenced in the Campbell debacle and once again in the Abregu fight. I doubt it is intentional, but it is a reoccurring theme in his fights. It is also an orthodox/southpaw matchup.

    Alexander moved his camp back to Vegas for this
    fight. In the interview with Fightnews, he mentioned the fact he didn't return home for Christmas, even though he has children. This type of dedication hasn't been seen from Alexander up to this point. He talks of sleeping in Tyson's old bed. He is training and living like the best doing it. Now is the time for him to become the best, and I'm expecting it happen this weekend.

    So in short, I like Alexander in the fight, but I also like the "fight won't go the distance" prop being offered at +280 currently. All the necessary ingredients are in place. All action fight, Alexander's fight changing power, headbutt issues, biggest fight of their careers on the biggest stage for either fighter, chit chat between the two, and the list goes on.

    My final prediction: Alexander via knockout.  I'll be playing like this...

    Alexander +190, 10 units. Alexander via KO, +530, 3 units. Fight Won't Go The Distance, +280, 3 units.


    It was factored in dope.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:56 PM ET #60

    Headbutts were NOT factored into the odds of the over/under here.  If they were the over 9.5 rds wouldn't have been an insane -565 to the over.

    What I dont understand is how are gamblers smarter than the oddsmakers?  The answer is: they're not. 

    Those butts didnt cause gashes bad enough to order a stoppage.  Neither the ref nor the doc would've stopped the fight if Alexander the B*tch wanted to fight.  The ring doctor was basically looking at Alexander like he was a big baby in there.  The doctor clearly wanted to send him back out but he was acting like Jodie Foster in Deliverance and gave him no choice but to stop it.  Another Kermit the Frog part deaux.

    "AHHHHHHHH MY EYE, IT BURNING, AHHHHHHH IT BURN, GODDDD IT BURN, AAAAHHHH'.


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    Headbutts were NOT factored into the odds of the over/under here.  If they were the over 9.5 rds wouldn't have been an insane -565 to the over.

    What I dont understand is how are gamblers smarter than the oddsmakers?  The answer is: they're not. 

    Those butts didnt cause gashes bad enough to order a stoppage.  Neither the ref nor the doc would've stopped the fight if Alexander the B*tch wanted to fight.  The ring doctor was basically looking at Alexander like he was a big baby in there.  The doctor clearly wanted to send him back out but he was acting like Jodie Foster in Deliverance and gave him no choice but to stop it.  Another Kermit the Frog part deaux.

    "AHHHHHHHH MY EYE, IT BURNING, AHHHHHHH IT BURN, GODDDD IT BURN, AAAAHHHH'.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2011 - 11:58 PM ET #61

    Jodie Foster in The Accused rather, who was that skank that got raped in Deliverance?
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    Jodie Foster in The Accused rather, who was that skank that got raped in Deliverance?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 12:05 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    You touched on one concern I have about Alexander, and that's the headbutts coming from Bradley.  I've seen nothing from Alexander that would lead me to believe he's the type of fighter that can deal with that type stuff.  Some guys fall apart when they are faced with that type of adversity (Juan Diaz for example), and I'm curious to see how Devon handles it. 

    Now we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    You touched on one concern I have about Alexander, and that's the headbutts coming from Bradley.  I've seen nothing from Alexander that would lead me to believe he's the type of fighter that can deal with that type stuff.  Some guys fall apart when they are faced with that type of adversity (Juan Diaz for example), and I'm curious to see how Devon handles it. 

    Now we know.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 1:07 AM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Jodie Foster in The Accused rather, who was that skank that got raped in Deliverance?


    Is that you in the av?  I lost money on Devon, and all that, but to call a man a bitch from your keyboard is straight box.  Go to Devon's gym and tell him that to his face gangster. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Jodie Foster in The Accused rather, who was that skank that got raped in Deliverance?


    Is that you in the av?  I lost money on Devon, and all that, but to call a man a bitch from your keyboard is straight box.  Go to Devon's gym and tell him that to his face gangster. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 1:29 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Now we know.

     

    Good call.  Devon didn't fight Bradley, he moved too much, and he didn't let his hands go at all in combinations. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Now we know.

     

    Good call.  Devon didn't fight Bradley, he moved too much, and he didn't let his hands go at all in combinations. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 1:30 AM ET #65

    Berto on Twitter:

     

    @AndreBerto U can't train that thing that beats in ya chest either have it or u dont

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    Berto on Twitter:

     

    @AndreBerto U can't train that thing that beats in ya chest either have it or u dont

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 1:33 AM ET #66

    I wouldn't question Devon's heart.  He has overcame more adversity in his life than a lot of people.  He legit couldn't see properly and was done.  Sometimes you lose.
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    I wouldn't question Devon's heart.  He has overcame more adversity in his life than a lot of people.  He legit couldn't see properly and was done.  Sometimes you lose.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 1:07 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Jodie Foster in The Accused rather, who was that skank that got raped in Deliverance?

    Ned Beatty.

    I hate to speak in a negative manner regarding Alexander and what he did last night because I do like him as a fighter. The kid has promising talent. He just wanted his glory before it was his time. This could be a major set-back for him. Kid needs to get his mind right. What do I mean by that? He thought he was ahead and took a bitch way out instead of showing us what he's made of. I hate to say it, but it is a heart issue. He could see fine and the fight in him was on pause. He was losing despite the butts. He should have said fuck frustration and lets make this midget pay with his own blood. 

    Alexander has all the tools, but those tools have little edge and need to be sharpened. Also, the arrangement of said tools is askew as well. He has speed, but no snap so its a bit flaky. He doesn't commit to more than one punch, no combo's. Who does he think he is, Jones Jr? Definitely not a one punch artist unless we're talking about acrylic on glass type artist. His footwork is off. Can't say how off the top of my head, would have to review film, but something is out of sync for sure. If he doesn't improve the above mentioned, his career is doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Jodie Foster in The Accused rather, who was that skank that got raped in Deliverance?

    Ned Beatty.

    I hate to speak in a negative manner regarding Alexander and what he did last night because I do like him as a fighter. The kid has promising talent. He just wanted his glory before it was his time. This could be a major set-back for him. Kid needs to get his mind right. What do I mean by that? He thought he was ahead and took a bitch way out instead of showing us what he's made of. I hate to say it, but it is a heart issue. He could see fine and the fight in him was on pause. He was losing despite the butts. He should have said fuck frustration and lets make this midget pay with his own blood. 

    Alexander has all the tools, but those tools have little edge and need to be sharpened. Also, the arrangement of said tools is askew as well. He has speed, but no snap so its a bit flaky. He doesn't commit to more than one punch, no combo's. Who does he think he is, Jones Jr? Definitely not a one punch artist unless we're talking about acrylic on glass type artist. His footwork is off. Can't say how off the top of my head, would have to review film, but something is out of sync for sure. If he doesn't improve the above mentioned, his career is doomed.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PULLA:

    I wouldn't question Devon's heart.  He has overcame more adversity in his life than a lot of people.  He legit couldn't see properly and was done.  Sometimes you lose.

    hes a bitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by PULLA:

    I wouldn't question Devon's heart.  He has overcame more adversity in his life than a lot of people.  He legit couldn't see properly and was done.  Sometimes you lose.

    hes a bitch
     
     
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    boxing is in a SAD SAD state right now
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