Posted:
#26
Quote Originally Posted by 3Technique:
A few I's have to be dotted and a few T's have to be crossed. I think we'll hear something by mid week.
Told ya we'd here something by mid week
BIG FIGHT DELAYED ????
Posted:
#27
In response to the release sent out Tuesday by Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions which stated that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was “in jeopardy,” Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank, the promoter of seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, had the following to say: “Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.
“Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes.”
New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury
consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and
combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
“I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all
drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t miss
anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I
believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If
you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s
no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being
detected.”
“If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating ‘a level playing field,’ as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease,” said Arum. “If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about leveling the fight.”
Posted:
#32
Quote Originally Posted by PALLADIUM:
It's obvious Pac's a doper and is scared to fight a fair one. Why else wouldn't he just agree to same testing it's not a big deal if it's the same for both fighters.
so agreeing to three times of blood testing which is unnecessary anyways is being scared? what mayweather wants is to bleed pacquiao first before fighting him, as box as he is i would not be shocked if he specifically request the LEFT arm to be drawn blood from.
Posted:
#41
Quote Originally Posted by sunset:
Are you kidding me this is not the olympics so no need for blood test within 48 hours of the fight!! This is professional boxing at its best!! And the other thing if you draw blood within 48 hours that only makes you week and may lose alot of energy by doing that cause it has a dramtically affect on your bloood metabolism.
Wrong and uninformed...do some friggin research before making shit up.
taken from another forum, posted by a lawyer who represents athletes in cases brought against them by sports committees (supposedly)
The idea that he doesn't want to be bothered is a non-starter here. A urine test is a far more invasive procedure than a blood test. USADA testers come to wherever the athlete is, test the athlete when the athlete is ready and it takes all of about two minutes to complete. The athletes are free to resume training the moment the needle exits their skin and they're under no obligation to immediately stop training (or whatever) when the tester arrives. Urine testing on the other hand takes more than two minutes to complete; a trip to the bathroom, being exposed from mid-torso to mid-thigh and the watching eyes of a tester while you do the entire process. Unless you honestly believe that having some dude stare at your dick while you piss in a cup is less bothersome than someone taking blood from you, then there is no way Arum's plan can be characterized as less bothersome.
If time away from training is a concern, then there will be no difference between urine testing and blood testing. If performance is concerned, it takes about 3.5 hours to regenerate the amount of blood taken during a test and the athlete can resume physical activity immediately after giving the test. The only legitimate concern here, if you want to call it that, is psychological trauma to Manny Pacquiao from either needles or the sight of blood; given that he's a boxer, we're left with the former.
If you think honoring Manny's fear of needles is a legitimate tradeoff for not being able to properly test both fighters for HGH, then that is certainly your prerogative. I'm glad that much of the sporting and scientific worlds don't see it that way
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