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    BIG FIGHT DELAYED ????

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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 9:21 AM ET #1

    still no word on venue, or that pac - mayweather have even signed on the dotted line, starting to feel like this thing is not going to happen on march 13th - havent heard for sure, just seems its getting tight on promo time and other various things required before we can get this together- I mean is 10 some weeks enough time - starting to feel maybe not
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    still no word on venue, or that pac - mayweather have even signed on the dotted line, starting to feel like this thing is not going to happen on march 13th - havent heard for sure, just seems its getting tight on promo time and other various things required before we can get this together- I mean is 10 some weeks enough time - starting to feel maybe not
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 11:49 AM ET #2

    Isn't there a press conference at yankee stadium sometime in early january to "officially" announce the fight?  Pretty sure i read that somewhere can't find it now but hopefully its sealed by then and tickets are released soon there after..
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    Isn't there a press conference at yankee stadium sometime in early january to "officially" announce the fight?  Pretty sure i read that somewhere can't find it now but hopefully its sealed by then and tickets are released soon there after..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 12:41 PM ET #3

    From Richard Schaefer, via Dan Rafael yesterday:

    "He says the Mayweather-Pacquaio fight is still not done, a few open issues that he hopes to put it to bed over the weekend. He's working with Top Rank's Todd duBoef. Once it done, he says then they will select the site."

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    From Richard Schaefer, via Dan Rafael yesterday:

    "He says the Mayweather-Pacquaio fight is still not done, a few open issues that he hopes to put it to bed over the weekend. He's working with Top Rank's Todd duBoef. Once it done, he says then they will select the site."

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 6:32 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    still no word on venue, or that pac - mayweather have even signed on the dotted line, starting to feel like this thing is not going to happen on march 13th - havent heard for sure, just seems its getting tight on promo time and other various things required before we can get this together- I mean is 10 some weeks enough time - starting to feel maybe not

     

    A few I's have to be dotted and a few T's have to be crossed. I think we'll hear something by mid week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    still no word on venue, or that pac - mayweather have even signed on the dotted line, starting to feel like this thing is not going to happen on march 13th - havent heard for sure, just seems its getting tight on promo time and other various things required before we can get this together- I mean is 10 some weeks enough time - starting to feel maybe not

     

    A few I's have to be dotted and a few T's have to be crossed. I think we'll hear something by mid week.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 9:02 PM ET #5

    agreed with everything said, but with the amount of cash flowing for this thing it would seem you would want the sales/marketing force at work longer than  a mere 10 weeks - getting a bit nervous about this one
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    agreed with everything said, but with the amount of cash flowing for this thing it would seem you would want the sales/marketing force at work longer than  a mere 10 weeks - getting a bit nervous about this one
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 10:41 PM ET #6

    ESPN is reporting the MGM has been chosen so it looks like it is a go 
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    ESPN is reporting the MGM has been chosen so it looks like it is a go 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #7

    sweet - as soon a I get the final word I'll book in at The Golden Nugget - old vegas baby
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    sweet - as soon a I get the final word I'll book in at The Golden Nugget - old vegas baby
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 3:12 AM ET #8

    Good Luck Nc1 you're a lucky guy you always head to the place it's happening to see the fight.

    They say you need money to make money, in this case you TAKE MONEY to MAKE MONEY :-)

    Good luck either way you wager.    
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    Good Luck Nc1 you're a lucky guy you always head to the place it's happening to see the fight.

    They say you need money to make money, in this case you TAKE MONEY to MAKE MONEY :-)

    Good luck either way you wager.    
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 6:25 PM ET #9

    thanks Rich, love to travel and always want to be where the action is- wish we could get this thing finalized
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    thanks Rich, love to travel and always want to be where the action is- wish we could get this thing finalized
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 7:22 PM ET #10

    the wait continues- saw the blurb where some cat from mayweathers camp leaked word to grand rapids press that fight was headed for the mgm - time is growing short 
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    the wait continues- saw the blurb where some cat from mayweathers camp leaked word to grand rapids press that fight was headed for the mgm - time is growing short 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2009 - 7:51 PM ET #11

    The fight appears to have hit a snag.  After initially agreeing to the 'Olympic style drug testing', Pacquiao has now said that he doesn't want to have his blood drawn:

     

    https://archive.constantcontact.com/fs044/1102055440350/archive/1102903092045.html

     

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    The fight appears to have hit a snag.  After initially agreeing to the 'Olympic style drug testing', Pacquiao has now said that he doesn't want to have his blood drawn:

     

    https://archive.constantcontact.com/fs044/1102055440350/archive/1102903092045.html

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2009 - 8:44 PM ET #12

    was just reading that very news, certainly makes one wonder eh Danno- everybody hates the needle I would assume but with so much on the line suck it up Manny and get it done- geez
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    was just reading that very news, certainly makes one wonder eh Danno- everybody hates the needle I would assume but with so much on the line suck it up Manny and get it done- geez
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2009 - 9:38 PM ET #13

    The things PBF will do to avoid a fight

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    The things PBF will do to avoid a fight

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2009 - 11:08 PM ET #14

    the public now is seeing the real floyd, the one who is a fraud and a coward,  It looks like he's come to his senses after thinking this situation thru, and now  knows that he WILL NOT WIN THIS FIGHT, so, he will find a way, any way out of this fight sooner or later....his legacy is more important to him then the money...

    floyd

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    the public now is seeing the real floyd, the one who is a fraud and a coward,  It looks like he's come to his senses after thinking this situation thru, and now  knows that he WILL NOT WIN THIS FIGHT, so, he will find a way, any way out of this fight sooner or later....his legacy is more important to him then the money...

    floyd

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 12:41 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryRice80:

    the public now is seeing the real floyd, the one who is a fraud and a coward,  It looks like he's come to his senses after thinking this situation thru, and now  knows that he WILL NOT WIN THIS FIGHT, so, he will find a way, any way out of this fight sooner or later....his legacy is more important to him then the money...

    floyd



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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryRice80:

    the public now is seeing the real floyd, the one who is a fraud and a coward,  It looks like he's come to his senses after thinking this situation thru, and now  knows that he WILL NOT WIN THIS FIGHT, so, he will find a way, any way out of this fight sooner or later....his legacy is more important to him then the money...

    floyd



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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 12:47 AM ET #16

    okay so sr. accuses manny of hgh but hgh does not show in blood... manny passes every tests everytime... and this strict test has been used in almost all fights... now mayweather wants to change history and rules to what? all i can see is yes he is clearly dodging this fight by means of demanding stupidly.

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    okay so sr. accuses manny of hgh but hgh does not show in blood... manny passes every tests everytime... and this strict test has been used in almost all fights... now mayweather wants to change history and rules to what? all i can see is yes he is clearly dodging this fight by means of demanding stupidly.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    okay so sr. accuses manny of hgh but hgh does not show in blood... manny passes every tests everytime... and this strict test has been used in almost all fights... now mayweather wants to change history and rules to what? all i can see is yes he is clearly dodging this fight by means of demanding stupidly.


    Yup. Of course the PBF backers will claim that he has agreed to every stipulation Manny's camp has thrown.

    The 10mil penalty is all PBF's doing from his last fight. He has nobody to blame but himself. There is no precedent with doing a blood test. This all from a former crackhead who has no proof Manny is doping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    okay so sr. accuses manny of hgh but hgh does not show in blood... manny passes every tests everytime... and this strict test has been used in almost all fights... now mayweather wants to change history and rules to what? all i can see is yes he is clearly dodging this fight by means of demanding stupidly.


    Yup. Of course the PBF backers will claim that he has agreed to every stipulation Manny's camp has thrown.

    The 10mil penalty is all PBF's doing from his last fight. He has nobody to blame but himself. There is no precedent with doing a blood test. This all from a former crackhead who has no proof Manny is doping.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 3:12 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:


    Yup. Of course the PBF backers will claim that he has agreed to every stipulation Manny's camp has thrown.

    The 10mil penalty is all PBF's doing from his last fight. He has nobody to blame but himself. There is no precedent with doing a blood test. This all from a former crackhead who has no proof Manny is doping.

    has he requested this before? since he didn't pick this fight and was just pressured into it then he request this stupid thing. pbf sucks big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:


    Yup. Of course the PBF backers will claim that he has agreed to every stipulation Manny's camp has thrown.

    The 10mil penalty is all PBF's doing from his last fight. He has nobody to blame but himself. There is no precedent with doing a blood test. This all from a former crackhead who has no proof Manny is doping.

    has he requested this before? since he didn't pick this fight and was just pressured into it then he request this stupid thing. pbf sucks big time.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 3:14 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    has he requested this before? since he didn't pick this fight and was just pressured into it then he request this stupid thing. pbf sucks big time.


    Nope. PBF has the best defense on and off the ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:

    has he requested this before? since he didn't pick this fight and was just pressured into it then he request this stupid thing. pbf sucks big time.


    Nope. PBF has the best defense on and off the ring.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 4:20 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    was just reading that very news, certainly makes one wonder eh Danno- everybody hates the needle I would assume but with so much on the line suck it up Manny and get it done- geez

    Are you kidding me this is not the olympics so no need for blood test within 48  hours of the fight!!  This is  professional boxing at its best!!  And the other thing if you draw  blood within 48 hours that only makes you week and may lose alot of energy by doing that cause it has a dramtically affect on your  bloood metabolism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:

    was just reading that very news, certainly makes one wonder eh Danno- everybody hates the needle I would assume but with so much on the line suck it up Manny and get it done- geez

    Are you kidding me this is not the olympics so no need for blood test within 48  hours of the fight!!  This is  professional boxing at its best!!  And the other thing if you draw  blood within 48 hours that only makes you week and may lose alot of energy by doing that cause it has a dramtically affect on your  bloood metabolism.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 4:42 AM ET #21

    I said it then and I'm going to say it again. All these nonsense is nothing but your typical Floyd Mayweather Jr. smoke.

    What did I tell you? Mayweather never intended to fight Pacquiao on March 13. In case you haven't noticed, Mayweather does most of his work with his mouth and working the media rather than really just lacing his gloves up against the best competition available.

    Forget that he avoided Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto and Paul Williams right?! Mayweather never runs out of excuses, mind games, propaganda and trash talk to cover up the truth.

    And the truth is? FLOYD NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT MANNY IN MARCH. Just sign the contract already Floyd!

    All these media posturing, press releases and trash talk is just cheapening, not only himself, but the sport of boxing as well. First it was the venue, then it was the weight, and now what? Steroids? Again? Has the sport really sunk so low to allow the biggest fight of the decade to be controlled by Floyd Mayweather Sr.? Luckily it isn't and Bob Arum is right to suggest to simply dump these clowns.

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-22-mayweather-pacquiao_N.htm, "The press release is absurd. Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him," Arum said in an article published by USAToday. 

    I respect Floyd's skill as a boxer, but as a warrior and a fighter, the man is a ducker. He does his fighting in the media and with his mouth and just as Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said in an interview with Brad Cooney and 8countnews, "He's just looking for a way out of the fight. He is scared, and he's just afraid that he's going to get his ass kicked. We don't work for Floyd Mayweather. We fight for the state commission, since when does the fighter make up the rules?"

    Let him run Manny. Mayweather isn't worth it. You don't need him. Your legacy is set, and his, unfortunately for him, stands as one of the most talented fighters ever who chose not to fight the best fighters of his era. 

    Personally, I am sick of Mayweather's cheap tactics just like how he had that bogus rib injury to push his fight back, then coming in over the weight limit for his fight against Marquez giving him added advantage over a man who is already smaller and handicapped as it is. 

    This whole Olympics steroid testing is a joke. Actually, Pacquiao already agreed to Mayweather's unnecessary demands and was willing to get his blood drawn a month before the fight and after the fight. If he indeed has any banned substance in him, they can be traced and detected by a test after the fight. Actually, The Nevada State Athletic Commission has a very efficient drug testing as it is. All Mayweather is doing is simply finding ways to further get an edge and discredit Pacquiao's reputation. All it really tells me is that Mayweather is afraid to fight Pacquiao and will do everything he can to destroy him and avoid being destroyed by him in the ring. 

    It's really cheap, sad and pathetic. Fight fans aren't stupid. This press release from GBP didn't come unexpected on my end however. Like I reported back then, Mayweather was simply bluffing. I got from people around Mayweather that he was training and preparing to fight in England possibly against Matthew Hatton then a day after they release a statement on ESPN saying he agreed to fight Pacquiao? You got to understand, press releases from Team Mayweather should not be taken as news. They are statements from Mayweather's camp. 

    Screw the mind games, just sign the contract Floyd. Everyone in boxing abides by the same rules and regulations, and by saying the same tests NSAC does for every boxer and fighter that comes in to fight in Nevada isn't good enough for you, then I guess you should have just stayed retired. What is Mayweather really trying to say? That boxing is a dirty sport? I'm afraid his ego and perhaps the paranoia he has inherited from his dad has gotten the best of him. 

    Fighters fight. And the funny thing is, Mayweather is worried about all these things against a smaller guy. He throws the word fairness, yet he himself could not honor his catchweight contract against Marquez in September. I told you I didn't want to be Johnny Raincloud when the world was thinking the superfight was finally happening, and I've said it before and I'll say it again, barring any last minute "courage" from Floyd, he does not intend to fight Pacquiao on March 13. Expect talks of Mayweather fighting in Europe to resurface. So if I were you, I'll just leave Floyd alone if he wants to fight smaller and over-matched opponents. Pacquiao is simply too big, too good and too dangerous for Floyd right now.

     

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    I said it then and I'm going to say it again. All these nonsense is nothing but your typical Floyd Mayweather Jr. smoke.

    What did I tell you? Mayweather never intended to fight Pacquiao on March 13. In case you haven't noticed, Mayweather does most of his work with his mouth and working the media rather than really just lacing his gloves up against the best competition available.

    Forget that he avoided Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto and Paul Williams right?! Mayweather never runs out of excuses, mind games, propaganda and trash talk to cover up the truth.

    And the truth is? FLOYD NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT MANNY IN MARCH. Just sign the contract already Floyd!

    All these media posturing, press releases and trash talk is just cheapening, not only himself, but the sport of boxing as well. First it was the venue, then it was the weight, and now what? Steroids? Again? Has the sport really sunk so low to allow the biggest fight of the decade to be controlled by Floyd Mayweather Sr.? Luckily it isn't and Bob Arum is right to suggest to simply dump these clowns.

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-22-mayweather-pacquiao_N.htm, "The press release is absurd. Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him," Arum said in an article published by USAToday. 

    I respect Floyd's skill as a boxer, but as a warrior and a fighter, the man is a ducker. He does his fighting in the media and with his mouth and just as Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said in an interview with Brad Cooney and 8countnews, "He's just looking for a way out of the fight. He is scared, and he's just afraid that he's going to get his ass kicked. We don't work for Floyd Mayweather. We fight for the state commission, since when does the fighter make up the rules?"

    Let him run Manny. Mayweather isn't worth it. You don't need him. Your legacy is set, and his, unfortunately for him, stands as one of the most talented fighters ever who chose not to fight the best fighters of his era. 

    Personally, I am sick of Mayweather's cheap tactics just like how he had that bogus rib injury to push his fight back, then coming in over the weight limit for his fight against Marquez giving him added advantage over a man who is already smaller and handicapped as it is. 

    This whole Olympics steroid testing is a joke. Actually, Pacquiao already agreed to Mayweather's unnecessary demands and was willing to get his blood drawn a month before the fight and after the fight. If he indeed has any banned substance in him, they can be traced and detected by a test after the fight. Actually, The Nevada State Athletic Commission has a very efficient drug testing as it is. All Mayweather is doing is simply finding ways to further get an edge and discredit Pacquiao's reputation. All it really tells me is that Mayweather is afraid to fight Pacquiao and will do everything he can to destroy him and avoid being destroyed by him in the ring. 

    It's really cheap, sad and pathetic. Fight fans aren't stupid. This press release from GBP didn't come unexpected on my end however. Like I reported back then, Mayweather was simply bluffing. I got from people around Mayweather that he was training and preparing to fight in England possibly against Matthew Hatton then a day after they release a statement on ESPN saying he agreed to fight Pacquiao? You got to understand, press releases from Team Mayweather should not be taken as news. They are statements from Mayweather's camp. 

    Screw the mind games, just sign the contract Floyd. Everyone in boxing abides by the same rules and regulations, and by saying the same tests NSAC does for every boxer and fighter that comes in to fight in Nevada isn't good enough for you, then I guess you should have just stayed retired. What is Mayweather really trying to say? That boxing is a dirty sport? I'm afraid his ego and perhaps the paranoia he has inherited from his dad has gotten the best of him. 

    Fighters fight. And the funny thing is, Mayweather is worried about all these things against a smaller guy. He throws the word fairness, yet he himself could not honor his catchweight contract against Marquez in September. I told you I didn't want to be Johnny Raincloud when the world was thinking the superfight was finally happening, and I've said it before and I'll say it again, barring any last minute "courage" from Floyd, he does not intend to fight Pacquiao on March 13. Expect talks of Mayweather fighting in Europe to resurface. So if I were you, I'll just leave Floyd alone if he wants to fight smaller and over-matched opponents. Pacquiao is simply too big, too good and too dangerous for Floyd right now.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 4:47 AM ET #22

    I said it then and I'm going to say it again. All these nonsense is nothing but your typical Floyd Mayweather Jr. smoke.

    What did I tell you? Mayweather never intended to fight Pacquiao on March 13. In case you haven't noticed, Mayweather does most of his work with his mouth and working the media rather than really just lacing his gloves up against the best competition available.

    Forget that he avoided Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto and Paul Williams right?! Mayweather never runs out of excuses, mind games, propaganda and trash talk to cover up the truth.

    And the truth is? FLOYD NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT MANNY IN MARCH. Just sign the contract already Floyd!

    All these media posturing, press releases and trash talk is just cheapening, not only himself, but the sport of boxing as well. First it was the venue, then it was the weight, and now what? Steroids? Again? Has the sport really sunk so low to allow the biggest fight of the decade to be controlled by Floyd Mayweather Sr.? Luckily it isn't and Bob Arum is right to suggest to simply dump these clowns.

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-22-mayweather-pacquiao_N.htm, "The press release is absurd. Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him," Arum said in an article published by USAToday. 

    I respect Floyd's skill as a boxer, but as a warrior and a fighter, the man is a ducker. He does his fighting in the media and with his mouth and just as Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said in an interview with Brad Cooney and 8countnews, "He's just looking for a way out of the fight. He is scared, and he's just afraid that he's going to get his ass kicked. We don't work for Floyd Mayweather. We fight for the state commission, since when does the fighter make up the rules?"

    Let him run Manny. Mayweather isn't worth it. You don't need him. Your legacy is set, and his, unfortunately for him, stands as one of the most talented fighters ever who chose not to fight the best fighters of his era. 

    Personally, I am sick of Mayweather's cheap tactics just like how he had that bogus rib injury to push his fight back, then coming in over the weight limit for his fight against Marquez giving him added advantage over a man who is already smaller and handicapped as it is. 

    This whole Olympics steroid testing is a joke. Actually, Pacquiao already agreed to Mayweather's unnecessary demands and was willing to get his blood drawn a month before the fight and after the fight. If he indeed has any banned substance in him, they can be traced and detected by a test after the fight. Actually, The Nevada State Athletic Commission has a very efficient drug testing as it is. All Mayweather is doing is simply finding ways to further get an edge and discredit Pacquiao's reputation. All it really tells me is that Mayweather is afraid to fight Pacquiao and will do everything he can to destroy him and avoid being destroyed by him in the ring. 

    It's really cheap, sad and pathetic. Fight fans aren't stupid. This press release from GBP didn't come unexpected on my end however. Like I reported back then, Mayweather was simply bluffing. I got from people around Mayweather that he was training and preparing to fight in England possibly against Matthew Hatton then a day after they release a statement on ESPN saying he agreed to fight Pacquiao? You got to understand, press releases from Team Mayweather should not be taken as news. They are statements from Mayweather's camp. 

    Screw the mind games, just sign the contract Floyd. Everyone in boxing abides by the same rules and regulations, and by saying the same tests NSAC does for every boxer and fighter that comes in to fight in Nevada isn't good enough for you, then I guess you should have just stayed retired. What is Mayweather really trying to say? That boxing is a dirty sport? I'm afraid his ego and perhaps the paranoia he has inherited from his dad has gotten the best of him. 

    Fighters fight. And the funny thing is, Mayweather is worried about all these things against a smaller guy. He throws the word fairness, yet he himself could not honor his catchweight contract against Marquez in September. I told you I didn't want to be Johnny Raincloud when the world was thinking the superfight was finally happening, and I've said it before and I'll say it again, barring any last minute "courage" from Floyd, he does not intend to fight Pacquiao on March 13. Expect talks of Mayweather fighting in Europe to resurface. So if I were you, I'll just leave Floyd alone if he wants to fight smaller and over-matched opponents. Pacquiao is simply too big, too good and too dangerous for Floyd right now.

     

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    I said it then and I'm going to say it again. All these nonsense is nothing but your typical Floyd Mayweather Jr. smoke.

    What did I tell you? Mayweather never intended to fight Pacquiao on March 13. In case you haven't noticed, Mayweather does most of his work with his mouth and working the media rather than really just lacing his gloves up against the best competition available.

    Forget that he avoided Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto and Paul Williams right?! Mayweather never runs out of excuses, mind games, propaganda and trash talk to cover up the truth.

    And the truth is? FLOYD NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT MANNY IN MARCH. Just sign the contract already Floyd!

    All these media posturing, press releases and trash talk is just cheapening, not only himself, but the sport of boxing as well. First it was the venue, then it was the weight, and now what? Steroids? Again? Has the sport really sunk so low to allow the biggest fight of the decade to be controlled by Floyd Mayweather Sr.? Luckily it isn't and Bob Arum is right to suggest to simply dump these clowns.

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-22-mayweather-pacquiao_N.htm, "The press release is absurd. Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him," Arum said in an article published by USAToday. 

    I respect Floyd's skill as a boxer, but as a warrior and a fighter, the man is a ducker. He does his fighting in the media and with his mouth and just as Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said in an interview with Brad Cooney and 8countnews, "He's just looking for a way out of the fight. He is scared, and he's just afraid that he's going to get his ass kicked. We don't work for Floyd Mayweather. We fight for the state commission, since when does the fighter make up the rules?"

    Let him run Manny. Mayweather isn't worth it. You don't need him. Your legacy is set, and his, unfortunately for him, stands as one of the most talented fighters ever who chose not to fight the best fighters of his era. 

    Personally, I am sick of Mayweather's cheap tactics just like how he had that bogus rib injury to push his fight back, then coming in over the weight limit for his fight against Marquez giving him added advantage over a man who is already smaller and handicapped as it is. 

    This whole Olympics steroid testing is a joke. Actually, Pacquiao already agreed to Mayweather's unnecessary demands and was willing to get his blood drawn a month before the fight and after the fight. If he indeed has any banned substance in him, they can be traced and detected by a test after the fight. Actually, The Nevada State Athletic Commission has a very efficient drug testing as it is. All Mayweather is doing is simply finding ways to further get an edge and discredit Pacquiao's reputation. All it really tells me is that Mayweather is afraid to fight Pacquiao and will do everything he can to destroy him and avoid being destroyed by him in the ring. 

    It's really cheap, sad and pathetic. Fight fans aren't stupid. This press release from GBP didn't come unexpected on my end however. Like I reported back then, Mayweather was simply bluffing. I got from people around Mayweather that he was training and preparing to fight in England possibly against Matthew Hatton then a day after they release a statement on ESPN saying he agreed to fight Pacquiao? You got to understand, press releases from Team Mayweather should not be taken as news. They are statements from Mayweather's camp. 

    Screw the mind games, just sign the contract Floyd. Everyone in boxing abides by the same rules and regulations, and by saying the same tests NSAC does for every boxer and fighter that comes in to fight in Nevada isn't good enough for you, then I guess you should have just stayed retired. What is Mayweather really trying to say? That boxing is a dirty sport? I'm afraid his ego and perhaps the paranoia he has inherited from his dad has gotten the best of him. 

    Fighters fight. And the funny thing is, Mayweather is worried about all these things against a smaller guy. He throws the word fairness, yet he himself could not honor his catchweight contract against Marquez in September. I told you I didn't want to be Johnny Raincloud when the world was thinking the superfight was finally happening, and I've said it before and I'll say it again, barring any last minute "courage" from Floyd, he does not intend to fight Pacquiao on March 13. Expect talks of Mayweather fighting in Europe to resurface. So if I were you, I'll just leave Floyd alone if he wants to fight smaller and over-matched opponents. Pacquiao is simply too big, too good and too dangerous for Floyd right now.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 4:59 AM ET #23

    based from personal experience, i have been drawn blood from before and the arm really becomes weak... for at least 2 days! i bet this guy is going to specifically request manny's left hand to be tested from.
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    based from personal experience, i have been drawn blood from before and the arm really becomes weak... for at least 2 days! i bet this guy is going to specifically request manny's left hand to be tested from.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 5:39 AM ET #24

    I could understand PBF's suspicion if this was done by a Selena Roberts investigation or there was a Mitchell Report being done.

    But this is all from a former dopehead with no college education. All this baffles my mind.



    If this is really off then let's just wait 3 months. PBF should be broke again by then. In which case, he'll agree to fight Manny with a blindfold if he has to.
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    I could understand PBF's suspicion if this was done by a Selena Roberts investigation or there was a Mitchell Report being done.

    But this is all from a former dopehead with no college education. All this baffles my mind.



    If this is really off then let's just wait 3 months. PBF should be broke again by then. In which case, he'll agree to fight Manny with a blindfold if he has to.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 6:28 AM ET #25

    nice info fellas, even if they could resolve this thing today (12-23) would there be enough time for everything involved in promoting a fight of this magnitude,,I think not - maybe sept............
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    nice info fellas, even if they could resolve this thing today (12-23) would there be enough time for everything involved in promoting a fight of this magnitude,,I think not - maybe sept............
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