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    I have won 16 of 22 games with a system I have been using ONLY in NCAA B-Ball

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    ragingstorm
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:13 PM ET #1

    Believe me or not I dont give a rats ass.

    Last night my games were Middle Tenn St. And Miami(Ohio)

    Here what you do


    Take team A

    Say that team A is avg 66 PPG on Offense

    Team B is AVG 58

    Now team A is favored by 8 points.

    Now move on to defense

    Say team A is giving up 57 PPG and team is giving up 63

    Now team is is favored another 6 on defense. 6+ 8 =14

    What do u do with this?

    BET THE OPPOSITE

    but NEVER BET WITH THE PUBLIC!!!!!!

    UNLESS the favorite is getting less than 55% support.

    So team A is favored by 14 in my theory

    Say the vegas line is TEAM A -6. they are only 6 points better but the damn Vegas line for some reason has them at -14 and the public thinks team B is going to cover then you take the bad line. becuase Vegas expects you to take the DOG.

    Now if team A in our line was 8 points better but were giving 2 you take the dog because the public will always take the fav becuase the line is low.

    Example tonight

    Drake is avg 69 PPG
    GaS is AVG 66

    Drake -3

    Defense Drake gives up an Avg of 62 and GaS gives up 78

    so minus another 16

    Drake in my line should be favored by 16+3=19

    The real line is Drake -12

    The public has Drake 75%

    The play is Ga Southern +12

    Ill probably lose tonight but this shit seriously works. NBA also but not as well as totals. I have develooped a killer team total system in the NBA Ill get to that whenever




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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Believe me or not I dont give a rats ass.

    Last night my games were Middle Tenn St. And Miami(Ohio)

    Here what you do


    Take team A

    Say that team A is avg 66 PPG on Offense

    Team B is AVG 58

    Now team A is favored by 8 points.

    Now move on to defense

    Say team A is giving up 57 PPG and team is giving up 63

    Now team is is favored another 6 on defense. 6+ 8 =14

    What do u do with this?

    BET THE OPPOSITE

    but NEVER BET WITH THE PUBLIC!!!!!!

    UNLESS the favorite is getting less than 55% support.

    So team A is favored by 14 in my theory

    Say the vegas line is TEAM A -6. they are only 6 points better but the damn Vegas line for some reason has them at -14 and the public thinks team B is going to cover then you take the bad line. becuase Vegas expects you to take the DOG.

    Now if team A in our line was 8 points better but were giving 2 you take the dog because the public will always take the fav becuase the line is low.

    Example tonight

    Drake is avg 69 PPG
    GaS is AVG 66

    Drake -3

    Defense Drake gives up an Avg of 62 and GaS gives up 78

    so minus another 16

    Drake in my line should be favored by 16+3=19

    The real line is Drake -12

    The public has Drake 75%

    The play is Ga Southern +12

    Ill probably lose tonight but this shit seriously works. NBA also but not as well as totals. I have develooped a killer team total system in the NBA Ill get to that whenever




     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:18 PM ET #2

    I think it's an interesting system that has some potential.
    Keep posing when you find a play. I would like to sit back and test it first.
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    I think it's an interesting system that has some potential.
    Keep posing when you find a play. I would like to sit back and test it first.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:20 PM ET #3

    where are you finding your "public betting" numbers?
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    where are you finding your "public betting" numbers?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:23 PM ET #4

    so how far off of the line is it considered a play? can every game be a play?
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    so how far off of the line is it considered a play? can every game be a play?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:23 PM ET #5

    I will not reveal that source.
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    I will not reveal that source.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:26 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by ragingstorm:

    I will not reveal that source.

     

    then why the hell you telling us??isnt it a site to help others make money..not to see how many people tail you and your hot streak?

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    I will not reveal that source.

     

    then why the hell you telling us??isnt it a site to help others make money..not to see how many people tail you and your hot streak?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:29 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbof20:

    so how far off of the line is it considered a play? can every game be a play?



    wassup Jim howya been?

    About 6 points or higher. NOTHING less. UNLESS its like tonight with such a high faovord for Drake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbof20:

    so how far off of the line is it considered a play? can every game be a play?



    wassup Jim howya been?

    About 6 points or higher. NOTHING less. UNLESS its like tonight with such a high faovord for Drake.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbof20:

     

    then why the hell you telling us??isnt it a site to help others make money..not to see how many people tail you and your hot streak?



    That was that im not revealing the source. of public plays. I dont want anything to skew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbof20:

     

    then why the hell you telling us??isnt it a site to help others make money..not to see how many people tail you and your hot streak?



    That was that im not revealing the source. of public plays. I dont want anything to skew it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:45 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by ragingstorm:




    wassup Jim howya been?

    About 6 points or higher. NOTHING less. UNLESS its like tonight with such a high faovord for Drake.
    ...been good bud...gl
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    wassup Jim howya been?

    About 6 points or higher. NOTHING less. UNLESS its like tonight with such a high faovord for Drake.
    ...been good bud...gl
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:47 PM ET #10

    By any chance is there any backtesting results from prior seasons or anything of the sorts that would help provide support to this system?

    Besides the fact, the betting gods are smiling on you for now.
    Keep it up, good job.
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    By any chance is there any backtesting results from prior seasons or anything of the sorts that would help provide support to this system?

    Besides the fact, the betting gods are smiling on you for now.
    Keep it up, good job.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:59 PM ET #11

    Yea I used it last year for the NBA but decided the totals system worked better. But it did work. Not as well as the NBA

    Another game

    Iowa -9 should be -3

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    Yea I used it last year for the NBA but decided the totals system worked better. But it did work. Not as well as the NBA

    Another game

    Iowa -9 should be -3

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 7:16 PM ET #12

    CALL ME STUPID BUT.... if they are playing the same comparable opponents then why wouldn't DRAKE be the pick
     
    accounding to your Math Drake is -19 and the spread is -12?
     
     
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    CALL ME STUPID BUT.... if they are playing the same comparable opponents then why wouldn't DRAKE be the pick
     
    accounding to your Math Drake is -19 and the spread is -12?
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 7:34 PM ET #13

    Did you hack into my computer RAGING!  
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    Did you hack into my computer RAGING!  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 7:36 PM ET #14

    Very Very similar to what i do but there is a lot more to it your not revealing which is good! Cause i have tweaked it every year now not showing the results in the past but it will as we cont to go forward. i have had probably a dozen games that have landed on the number my system brings out...
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    Very Very similar to what i do but there is a lot more to it your not revealing which is good! Cause i have tweaked it every year now not showing the results in the past but it will as we cont to go forward. i have had probably a dozen games that have landed on the number my system brings out...
     
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    Basically sounds like a public fade system to me.  All that you are doing is looking at the numbers and seeing if the public's opinion is reinforced by the numbers and therefore the public should definitely be on it.  Sort of a chicken or egg thing.  What determines the public's betting more, the "bad" line, the numbers or both?  Either way, you are just finding reason why the public would be on the bad line because the team they pick "should" win, but you seem to be seeing the opposite. 

    I apologize if that explanation seems judgemental, it's not meant to be.  I just re-read it and it sounded that way and I apologize for that, just trying to reconcile the logic in my head.  Sometimes I'm too blunt for my own good. 

    Good luck with your system.  I am currently on Drake (so against you) and on Iowa (so with you).  One of us will most likely win something!

     
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    Basically sounds like a public fade system to me.  All that you are doing is looking at the numbers and seeing if the public's opinion is reinforced by the numbers and therefore the public should definitely be on it.  Sort of a chicken or egg thing.  What determines the public's betting more, the "bad" line, the numbers or both?  Either way, you are just finding reason why the public would be on the bad line because the team they pick "should" win, but you seem to be seeing the opposite. 

    I apologize if that explanation seems judgemental, it's not meant to be.  I just re-read it and it sounded that way and I apologize for that, just trying to reconcile the logic in my head.  Sometimes I'm too blunt for my own good. 

    Good luck with your system.  I am currently on Drake (so against you) and on Iowa (so with you).  One of us will most likely win something!

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 8:24 PM ET #16

    Hey Rage,
     
    Glad to see you, man.
    We need some winners, come on in and help.
    Let's get this thing going!
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    Hey Rage,
     
    Glad to see you, man.
    We need some winners, come on in and help.
    Let's get this thing going!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 8:35 PM ET #17

    this doesn't seem like it will work in the long run.....
     
    or maybe i just can't understand the science behind it....
     
    i wish you all the best though and hope you hit big...
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    this doesn't seem like it will work in the long run.....
     
    or maybe i just can't understand the science behind it....
     
    i wish you all the best though and hope you hit big...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 9:44 PM ET #18

    Looking strong so far. Whatever the result post the plays that fall into your system tomorrow please.
     
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    Looking strong so far. Whatever the result post the plays that fall into your system tomorrow please.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 11:20 PM ET #19

    2-0  Great job. Post tomorrow please
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    2-0  Great job. Post tomorrow please
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 12:25 AM ET #20

    so how do you determine a bad line, how many points does it have to be off the vegas line?? im am guessing something like 6 points either way, just a guess

    so for example tomorrow we Tenn vs Temple

    according to y our system

    OFF
    tenn-87 ppg

    TEmple-69 ppg

    Tenn -18

    Def  Tenn 71  Temple 67 Temple -4

    Line should be Tenn -14

    now i have to wait and see what the public does?? and what site do i go to to find what the public is betting on??

    your insight would be much appreciated, thanks so much

     

     

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    so how do you determine a bad line, how many points does it have to be off the vegas line?? im am guessing something like 6 points either way, just a guess

    so for example tomorrow we Tenn vs Temple

    according to y our system

    OFF
    tenn-87 ppg

    TEmple-69 ppg

    Tenn -18

    Def  Tenn 71  Temple 67 Temple -4

    Line should be Tenn -14

    now i have to wait and see what the public does?? and what site do i go to to find what the public is betting on??

    your insight would be much appreciated, thanks so much

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 12:30 AM ET #21

    let us know rage
     
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    let us know rage
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 12:32 AM ET #22

    Fer you got but you have add in home court for a big game like this at temp add another 3  points so TENN -11...


    Here is the 3 games i have lined up for tomorrow

    KU, PURDUE, AND UCLA FOR MY FADED SYSTEM PLAYS...
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    Fer you got but you have add in home court for a big game like this at temp add another 3  points so TENN -11...


    Here is the 3 games i have lined up for tomorrow

    KU, PURDUE, AND UCLA FOR MY FADED SYSTEM PLAYS...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 12:45 AM ET #23

     hey bird, i just use the overall avg stats, instead of the home/aways stats correct??

    thanks for the input on home court

    can you check out eastern kentucky i have them as being a 7 point fav after taking off the 3 points as visitor, and they are getting 5???

    thanks

     

     

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     hey bird, i just use the overall avg stats, instead of the home/aways stats correct??

    thanks for the input on home court

    can you check out eastern kentucky i have them as being a 7 point fav after taking off the 3 points as visitor, and they are getting 5???

    thanks

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 12:46 AM ET #24

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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 12:50 AM ET #25

    bird, WHY UCLA, i got the line at 15 and the actual line is 16.5, just curious as to why that would be a play.
     
    I thought there had to be a significant difference in the line like 6 points or more either way?
     
    thanks, once again just trying to clarify
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    bird, WHY UCLA, i got the line at 15 and the actual line is 16.5, just curious as to why that would be a play.
     
    I thought there had to be a significant difference in the line like 6 points or more either way?
     
    thanks, once again just trying to clarify
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