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    Mack05
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 8:42 PM ET #1

    Many of you will remember how my Wimbledon picks and how on the money they were. I have 3 picks for the US Open...
     
    My main pick is
     
    25k on Roger Federer NOT to win the US Open. Placed this bet on Betfair.
    1k on Andy Murray to win US Open
    500 dollars e/w Victoria Azarenka to win Womens US Open..
     
    Ok thoughts are as follows. Yes Federer is 5 time champ and won Cincinatti but over the past while he has started to look more and more vunerable. He is not the same force as he was and I think him being a father to twin girls his focus will not be what it should be. Im VERY confident the champ gets dethroned..By who thats another question. I'm thrilled he won Cincinatti as I as I great odds to lay him (no smart comments please)..
     
    Andy Murray is the tenative choice. He is a Grand Slam winner in waiting and I think he is ready, unlike last year. Players like Tsonga and Verdasco are sleepers and Nadal may rediscover his form but Murray has to be the best alternative to Fed..
     
    The womens it looks like Serana but I think we will see a new womens star born. Got a hunch for Azarenka, nothing more concrete I am afraid..
     
    Good Luck all..
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Many of you will remember how my Wimbledon picks and how on the money they were. I have 3 picks for the US Open...
     
    My main pick is
     
    25k on Roger Federer NOT to win the US Open. Placed this bet on Betfair.
    1k on Andy Murray to win US Open
    500 dollars e/w Victoria Azarenka to win Womens US Open..
     
    Ok thoughts are as follows. Yes Federer is 5 time champ and won Cincinatti but over the past while he has started to look more and more vunerable. He is not the same force as he was and I think him being a father to twin girls his focus will not be what it should be. Im VERY confident the champ gets dethroned..By who thats another question. I'm thrilled he won Cincinatti as I as I great odds to lay him (no smart comments please)..
     
    Andy Murray is the tenative choice. He is a Grand Slam winner in waiting and I think he is ready, unlike last year. Players like Tsonga and Verdasco are sleepers and Nadal may rediscover his form but Murray has to be the best alternative to Fed..
     
    The womens it looks like Serana but I think we will see a new womens star born. Got a hunch for Azarenka, nothing more concrete I am afraid..
     
    Good Luck all..
     
    esplanade
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 10:08 PM ET #2

    What are these great anti-Fed odds you speak of? I'm thinking -175 to -200. I disagree that his focus is waning. I actually feel the pressure is off after #15 and his confidence is high after beating Murray and the Joker. He's going balls out over the next three years and then spending all his time with the daughters. If anything he was probably distracted when Mirka was pregnant and he had yet to marry her. Obviously Murray can win here and Roddick is a former champ, Djoko is certainly tough, but Nadal has yet to become a factor on a surface this fast and his season and world #1 were lost due to injury. You can almost pencil Fed into the semi's.

    I like +150. I have a bit of Roddick +2000 and Venus +500.
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    What are these great anti-Fed odds you speak of? I'm thinking -175 to -200. I disagree that his focus is waning. I actually feel the pressure is off after #15 and his confidence is high after beating Murray and the Joker. He's going balls out over the next three years and then spending all his time with the daughters. If anything he was probably distracted when Mirka was pregnant and he had yet to marry her. Obviously Murray can win here and Roddick is a former champ, Djoko is certainly tough, but Nadal has yet to become a factor on a surface this fast and his season and world #1 were lost due to injury. You can almost pencil Fed into the semi's.

    I like +150. I have a bit of Roddick +2000 and Venus +500.
     
    Gusfgz
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 1:27 AM ET #3

    I am all over in the other side, Federer to Win US Open is a MUST play at +140.
    Cincinnati open the door of confidence for Roger after beating Murray and Djokovic.
    5 times winner Federer is full of confidence with a lot of factors:
    1.- Playing more consistence from US Open 2,008 when he won the first Big championship for this year. Now he got Roland Garros & Wimbledon and he is back for his old form.
    2.- His life changed when he got married and won France & Wimbledon. Now he is a daddy, a new factor for confidence, motivation to win ALL this year, maybe he will retire in 2 or 3 years but he is 100% focus on tennis right now and you can feel that.
    3.- Who can challenge Federer, maybe Murray, but he´s doesn´t ready for a Grand Slam yet, maybe next year, he was on great expectations on Wimbledon and he failed,not in 3 sets Andy.
    Nadal? he really looks vulnerable on Montreal and Cincy, he`s getting in slow motion for his great form, maybe for the Master, not here. Djokovic? He could get a great championship but not to win all. The others , Roddick if he is focus 100% on service he could fight. Del Potro should win a Grand Slam in 2 years but not here with back problems, and the others are the others.
    4.- For this reasons i can´t see other player to win US Open if is not called ROGER FEDERER.
    Good luck anyway.
    GUS
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    I am all over in the other side, Federer to Win US Open is a MUST play at +140.
    Cincinnati open the door of confidence for Roger after beating Murray and Djokovic.
    5 times winner Federer is full of confidence with a lot of factors:
    1.- Playing more consistence from US Open 2,008 when he won the first Big championship for this year. Now he got Roland Garros & Wimbledon and he is back for his old form.
    2.- His life changed when he got married and won France & Wimbledon. Now he is a daddy, a new factor for confidence, motivation to win ALL this year, maybe he will retire in 2 or 3 years but he is 100% focus on tennis right now and you can feel that.
    3.- Who can challenge Federer, maybe Murray, but he´s doesn´t ready for a Grand Slam yet, maybe next year, he was on great expectations on Wimbledon and he failed,not in 3 sets Andy.
    Nadal? he really looks vulnerable on Montreal and Cincy, he`s getting in slow motion for his great form, maybe for the Master, not here. Djokovic? He could get a great championship but not to win all. The others , Roddick if he is focus 100% on service he could fight. Del Potro should win a Grand Slam in 2 years but not here with back problems, and the others are the others.
    4.- For this reasons i can´t see other player to win US Open if is not called ROGER FEDERER.
    Good luck anyway.
    GUS
     
    nwcrazy
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 2:21 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Many of you will remember how my Wimbledon picks and how on the money they were. I have 3 picks for the US Open...
     
    My main pick is
     
    25k on Roger Federer NOT to win the US Open. Placed this bet on Betfair.
    1k on Andy Murray to win US Open
    500 dollars e/w Victoria Azarenka to win Womens US Open..
     
    Ok thoughts are as follows. Yes Federer is 5 time champ and won Cincinatti but over the past while he has started to look more and more vunerable. He is not the same force as he was and I think him being a father to twin girls his focus will not be what it should be. Im VERY confident the champ gets dethroned..By who thats another question. I'm thrilled he won Cincinatti as I as I great odds to lay him (no smart comments please)..
     
    Andy Murray is the tenative choice. He is a Grand Slam winner in waiting and I think he is ready, unlike last year. Players like Tsonga and Verdasco are sleepers and Nadal may rediscover his form but Murray has to be the best alternative to Fed..
     
    The womens it looks like Serana but I think we will see a new womens star born. Got a hunch for Azarenka, nothing more concrete I am afraid..
     
    Good Luck all..


    Actually, I think Federer has refocused and changed his gameplan to adapt to players like Murray or Joker. If he had lost to Murray or Joker, I would agree with you. BUT he seems to have solved the puzzle in how to beat those guys. As for Nadal, I don't expect him to have fully recovered.

    My money is on Federer on the men's and Dementieva on the women's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Many of you will remember how my Wimbledon picks and how on the money they were. I have 3 picks for the US Open...
     
    My main pick is
     
    25k on Roger Federer NOT to win the US Open. Placed this bet on Betfair.
    1k on Andy Murray to win US Open
    500 dollars e/w Victoria Azarenka to win Womens US Open..
     
    Ok thoughts are as follows. Yes Federer is 5 time champ and won Cincinatti but over the past while he has started to look more and more vunerable. He is not the same force as he was and I think him being a father to twin girls his focus will not be what it should be. Im VERY confident the champ gets dethroned..By who thats another question. I'm thrilled he won Cincinatti as I as I great odds to lay him (no smart comments please)..
     
    Andy Murray is the tenative choice. He is a Grand Slam winner in waiting and I think he is ready, unlike last year. Players like Tsonga and Verdasco are sleepers and Nadal may rediscover his form but Murray has to be the best alternative to Fed..
     
    The womens it looks like Serana but I think we will see a new womens star born. Got a hunch for Azarenka, nothing more concrete I am afraid..
     
    Good Luck all..


    Actually, I think Federer has refocused and changed his gameplan to adapt to players like Murray or Joker. If he had lost to Murray or Joker, I would agree with you. BUT he seems to have solved the puzzle in how to beat those guys. As for Nadal, I don't expect him to have fully recovered.

    My money is on Federer on the men's and Dementieva on the women's
     
    Caecilius
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 4:37 AM ET #5

    I couldn't write Federer off like that either.
     
    He destroyed Djokovic in the Cincy final and I think the result would be the same if they meet again in New York. If Murray continues to play that passive tennis Federer will beat him again, and also Murray would have to break new ground anyway to beat Federer over 5 sets. Not sure about Nadal but if Federer sticks to an aggressive approach I think he can do it especially on those courts.
     
    However I do agree that Murray is probably the next best alternative to Fed although I think maybe he might suffer a shock exit at some stage.
     
    But to win your bet I guess all you need is Federer to struggle in an early match and maybe the odds rise in the outrights market. Could see it happening but the risk isn't for me.
     
    GL
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    I couldn't write Federer off like that either.
     
    He destroyed Djokovic in the Cincy final and I think the result would be the same if they meet again in New York. If Murray continues to play that passive tennis Federer will beat him again, and also Murray would have to break new ground anyway to beat Federer over 5 sets. Not sure about Nadal but if Federer sticks to an aggressive approach I think he can do it especially on those courts.
     
    However I do agree that Murray is probably the next best alternative to Fed although I think maybe he might suffer a shock exit at some stage.
     
    But to win your bet I guess all you need is Federer to struggle in an early match and maybe the odds rise in the outrights market. Could see it happening but the risk isn't for me.
     
    GL
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 6:03 AM ET #6

    You gotta love those guys who have these huge ego issues that force them to come on here with figures. They maybe have issues with the girlfriend or the wife and need to feel man again and the funny thing is that apparently they feel that way writing huge figures behind a computer!

    He couldn't just say 25 Units or 50 Units or 100 Units, no way!
    He has to write how much money (or most likely peanuts) he is wagering.
    I am not one of the heaviest hitters in gambling however I think I wager more than a good part of the people in this forum, that being said I know a few of really heavy hitters and they have in common one thing apart from winning more than losing:

    they never talk about money


    You will never read anything from me that talks about money either, because who wagers real money doesn't go yell it out on Covers, it is very simple.

    Anyway, great insight, I hope you do cash your ticket with Azarenka as she is my favorite player and would love to see her raise the trophy.



    Ah, and by the way, if you were wondering who Mack05 is (yes, I have never read anything interesting from him apart from this, which is about him) the link will take you to a very funny story where post Number 7 explains what kind of poster he is.

    Keep up the good work buddy.

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    You gotta love those guys who have these huge ego issues that force them to come on here with figures. They maybe have issues with the girlfriend or the wife and need to feel man again and the funny thing is that apparently they feel that way writing huge figures behind a computer!

    He couldn't just say 25 Units or 50 Units or 100 Units, no way!
    He has to write how much money (or most likely peanuts) he is wagering.
    I am not one of the heaviest hitters in gambling however I think I wager more than a good part of the people in this forum, that being said I know a few of really heavy hitters and they have in common one thing apart from winning more than losing:

    they never talk about money


    You will never read anything from me that talks about money either, because who wagers real money doesn't go yell it out on Covers, it is very simple.

    Anyway, great insight, I hope you do cash your ticket with Azarenka as she is my favorite player and would love to see her raise the trophy.



    Ah, and by the way, if you were wondering who Mack05 is (yes, I have never read anything interesting from him apart from this, which is about him) the link will take you to a very funny story where post Number 7 explains what kind of poster he is.

    Keep up the good work buddy.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 6:21 AM ET #7

    Well to provide some balance to this thread I have only been around for a couple months and this is the first post I recall seeing from him. So I judge his character on these boards from today.

    I place more importance on a capper's results doing the talking. Whether or not he really put down that much money is inconsequential as far as I'm concerned.

    All of us and him included will be able to see how those wagers do over the next couple of weeks and whether he wins or loses I'd give him greater respect than the standard capper who will just post a W or L after each wager and keep very quiet on a losing day but let the whole world know when they enjoy a winning day. 

    Too much hate on any forum TC and we have one common goal which is to make money on this sport. I say we work together on this.

     

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    Well to provide some balance to this thread I have only been around for a couple months and this is the first post I recall seeing from him. So I judge his character on these boards from today.

    I place more importance on a capper's results doing the talking. Whether or not he really put down that much money is inconsequential as far as I'm concerned.

    All of us and him included will be able to see how those wagers do over the next couple of weeks and whether he wins or loses I'd give him greater respect than the standard capper who will just post a W or L after each wager and keep very quiet on a losing day but let the whole world know when they enjoy a winning day. 

    Too much hate on any forum TC and we have one common goal which is to make money on this sport. I say we work together on this.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 6:53 AM ET #8

    Caecilus simple do a search (not that hard) from me on Tennis picks here and also check the boxing forums. I am a professional gambler its what I do. Fade me if you want but if you check my wimbledon picks you will see they were right on the money..
     
    I couldn't care less if people think my betting figures are true or not. I am telling you know Federer will NOT win the US Open and that I have 25k on it. Up to you if you want to tail me or fade me..
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    Caecilus simple do a search (not that hard) from me on Tennis picks here and also check the boxing forums. I am a professional gambler its what I do. Fade me if you want but if you check my wimbledon picks you will see they were right on the money..
     
    I couldn't care less if people think my betting figures are true or not. I am telling you know Federer will NOT win the US Open and that I have 25k on it. Up to you if you want to tail me or fade me..
     
    Mack05
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    Tennis Capper why dont you go into further research about that whole debate on the boxing forum. I have said it a million times I have not lied and I will not back down on that, I am willing to prove that and if Covers want to ban me for telling the truth let them go ahead. God I smart asses like you that try to put people down without knowing the full facts to the story. Look ay my last 11 picks. 9 have been winners and they were picked by ME!!!Your a petty little man capper and a jack@ss to boot..
     
    I just give winners, I dont care what people think of me or I dont care who trys to put me down. I have a loyal following here and I would let the pettiness of a few get in the way of that..Do a search on my picks, not hard to see for yourself..
     
    My Federer pick will hit..FACT
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    Tennis Capper why dont you go into further research about that whole debate on the boxing forum. I have said it a million times I have not lied and I will not back down on that, I am willing to prove that and if Covers want to ban me for telling the truth let them go ahead. God I smart asses like you that try to put people down without knowing the full facts to the story. Look ay my last 11 picks. 9 have been winners and they were picked by ME!!!Your a petty little man capper and a jack@ss to boot..
     
    I just give winners, I dont care what people think of me or I dont care who trys to put me down. I have a loyal following here and I would let the pettiness of a few get in the way of that..Do a search on my picks, not hard to see for yourself..
     
    My Federer pick will hit..FACT
     
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    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=38&sub=100476011 
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    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=38&sub=100476011 
     
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    Read the above link carefully Tennis capper. Not only did Fed and Serena won but my e/w on Roddick hit as well, as well as the boxing pick I posted..I have no issues mentioning money its what i am gambling and it helps my followers to know how confident I am in a bet..Now even you cant dish my picks on the above thread. Everyone of them came through exactly (bar the risky Berydch/Simon) how i called it..
     
    Knockers like you just want me to pick winners for folks even more..
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    Read the above link carefully Tennis capper. Not only did Fed and Serena won but my e/w on Roddick hit as well, as well as the boxing pick I posted..I have no issues mentioning money its what i am gambling and it helps my followers to know how confident I am in a bet..Now even you cant dish my picks on the above thread. Everyone of them came through exactly (bar the risky Berydch/Simon) how i called it..
     
    Knockers like you just want me to pick winners for folks even more..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Read the above link carefully Tennis capper. Not only did Fed and Serena won but my e/w on Roddick hit as well, as well as the boxing pick I posted..I have no issues mentioning money its what i am gambling and it helps my followers to know how confident I am in a bet..Now even you cant dish my picks on the above thread. Everyone of them came through exactly (bar the risky Berydch/Simon) how i called it..
     
    Knockers like you just want me to pick winners for folks even more..



    You can do that saying it with Units
    You are just arrogant trying to show off with money, typical tout wannabe behavior, seen that before and that's why I don't like your posts.
    That being said, I haven't personally attacked you and I haven't said anything about how bad or good you, have I? I just posted a link to a funny thread where after the Covers-Team post there was no response by you. Period.

    So you can keep the accusations and the bad words for yourself, I also said I hope you cash in your ticket with Azarenka, what else do you want from me?

    Won't answer to you anymore, I have had enough issues with the board since I started to post again and I don't want to spam the Forum, so good luck with your plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Read the above link carefully Tennis capper. Not only did Fed and Serena won but my e/w on Roddick hit as well, as well as the boxing pick I posted..I have no issues mentioning money its what i am gambling and it helps my followers to know how confident I am in a bet..Now even you cant dish my picks on the above thread. Everyone of them came through exactly (bar the risky Berydch/Simon) how i called it..
     
    Knockers like you just want me to pick winners for folks even more..



    You can do that saying it with Units
    You are just arrogant trying to show off with money, typical tout wannabe behavior, seen that before and that's why I don't like your posts.
    That being said, I haven't personally attacked you and I haven't said anything about how bad or good you, have I? I just posted a link to a funny thread where after the Covers-Team post there was no response by you. Period.

    So you can keep the accusations and the bad words for yourself, I also said I hope you cash in your ticket with Azarenka, what else do you want from me?

    Won't answer to you anymore, I have had enough issues with the board since I started to post again and I don't want to spam the Forum, so good luck with your plays.

     
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    "My Federer pick will hit..FACT"
    How can you be so sure? The draw will come out this Thursday. Everyone here is gambling, but gambling before you have all the facts is never good. 
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    "My Federer pick will hit..FACT"
    How can you be so sure? The draw will come out this Thursday. Everyone here is gambling, but gambling before you have all the facts is never good. 
     
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    I do believe it is possible he is wagering the 25K. I for one plan on becoming damn rich as a film director and yet would probably still continue to post after I make it. I think it is good to discuss picks with other gamblers and try to become a better capper no matter how rich or poor you are. But I can see how saying 25K specifically seems like bragging.
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    On the real issue...
     
    To me it is pretty wild that you made Fed your play of the year at Wimbledon and are now wagering so severely against him in a Slam he has won, what, the last five years in a row or so? And right after this last tournament where he dismantled his top HC competition in Djokavic and Murray?
     
    You still have not listed the odds you are getting here. I agree with the first reply that they would have to be no less than -170. To me it is not worth risking a huge sum of money to get half of it back if the Greatest Player Ever fails.
     
    How far do you think he will go? Do you honestly see him falling before the semifinals? I think that is mission impossible. He will face a bunch of lame-os and be given a favorable draw, play a quarterfinalist who will be good but most likely not great and then only truly start to see a large challenge from the semis on.
     
    Let's say he makes the semifinals, even the quarters. At this point what do you think the line would be betting against him to win the tournament? I would say at this point your -170 is going to turn to +120 or possibly much better and thus risking your 25K then would yeild a profit of possibly 30K instead of 13K or so. An increase of a whopping 17K simply for having the patience to wait for Federer to beat a bunch of perrenial losers and get within striking distance, which I think even you know is going to happen. For that reason alone I think this is a bad bet even if it hits, because if he makes the quarters and still loses this tournament somehow you will have missed a chance at greatly increasing the value of your wager.
     
    I think it would have been better to wait until the first round you could see Fed going out and betting against him then doubling the amount until he is gone, since you will be getting big dog odds every time.
     
    Also, who really has the game to take him out?
     
    Nadal? He has yet to make a US Open final, has struggled vs top ten players since returning and will probably still show some signs of rust. Despite all of this I think he is one of the two players that will have the best shot of helping you due to his heart and mental strength. I also think he was not going all out these last two tournaments the way he will at the USO. Still, not likely.
     
    Murray? I agree that his defensive style will crumble in front of an attacking Fed. He basically has to hope Federer has a bad day to win, and when is the last time that has happened at the US Open? Also, if you watched their last match you would see that Federer has very obviousl;y been studying Murray and made changes which resulted in a convincing win, even when Murray "turned it on" in the second set.
     
    Djokavic? I love the guy but he does not have the mental resilience to beat Federer at the top of his game, which he most certainly is now.
     
    Roddick? Same reasoning as above. Wimbledon was his best shot and he blew it bigtime. And if Roddick has to go through someone like Murray or Del Potro to get to Fed I do not like his chances.
     
    Tsonga, Soderling, Verdasco? No way. Haas? Too many errors lately.
     
    Del Potro? I actually think this is your best shot. He has a Slam coming and even a blind man can see that. But right now you have to question his five set fitness level and belief. I think his FO result vs Fed is about what would happen were they to face off here. If he gets up he will question himself and it is all over.
     
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    I do believe it is possible he is wagering the 25K. I for one plan on becoming damn rich as a film director and yet would probably still continue to post after I make it. I think it is good to discuss picks with other gamblers and try to become a better capper no matter how rich or poor you are. But I can see how saying 25K specifically seems like bragging.
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    On the real issue...
     
    To me it is pretty wild that you made Fed your play of the year at Wimbledon and are now wagering so severely against him in a Slam he has won, what, the last five years in a row or so? And right after this last tournament where he dismantled his top HC competition in Djokavic and Murray?
     
    You still have not listed the odds you are getting here. I agree with the first reply that they would have to be no less than -170. To me it is not worth risking a huge sum of money to get half of it back if the Greatest Player Ever fails.
     
    How far do you think he will go? Do you honestly see him falling before the semifinals? I think that is mission impossible. He will face a bunch of lame-os and be given a favorable draw, play a quarterfinalist who will be good but most likely not great and then only truly start to see a large challenge from the semis on.
     
    Let's say he makes the semifinals, even the quarters. At this point what do you think the line would be betting against him to win the tournament? I would say at this point your -170 is going to turn to +120 or possibly much better and thus risking your 25K then would yeild a profit of possibly 30K instead of 13K or so. An increase of a whopping 17K simply for having the patience to wait for Federer to beat a bunch of perrenial losers and get within striking distance, which I think even you know is going to happen. For that reason alone I think this is a bad bet even if it hits, because if he makes the quarters and still loses this tournament somehow you will have missed a chance at greatly increasing the value of your wager.
     
    I think it would have been better to wait until the first round you could see Fed going out and betting against him then doubling the amount until he is gone, since you will be getting big dog odds every time.
     
    Also, who really has the game to take him out?
     
    Nadal? He has yet to make a US Open final, has struggled vs top ten players since returning and will probably still show some signs of rust. Despite all of this I think he is one of the two players that will have the best shot of helping you due to his heart and mental strength. I also think he was not going all out these last two tournaments the way he will at the USO. Still, not likely.
     
    Murray? I agree that his defensive style will crumble in front of an attacking Fed. He basically has to hope Federer has a bad day to win, and when is the last time that has happened at the US Open? Also, if you watched their last match you would see that Federer has very obviousl;y been studying Murray and made changes which resulted in a convincing win, even when Murray "turned it on" in the second set.
     
    Djokavic? I love the guy but he does not have the mental resilience to beat Federer at the top of his game, which he most certainly is now.
     
    Roddick? Same reasoning as above. Wimbledon was his best shot and he blew it bigtime. And if Roddick has to go through someone like Murray or Del Potro to get to Fed I do not like his chances.
     
    Tsonga, Soderling, Verdasco? No way. Haas? Too many errors lately.
     
    Del Potro? I actually think this is your best shot. He has a Slam coming and even a blind man can see that. But right now you have to question his five set fitness level and belief. I think his FO result vs Fed is about what would happen were they to face off here. If he gets up he will question himself and it is all over.
     
     
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    I am on Federer myself but not large (by my completely different set of financial standards that is, haha) . Am going larger on Serena. Since you think she will probabvly win I am not sure why you are not wagering the 25 large on her for much better odds. Now that would look like a true "goldmine" bet to me same as your Federer future at Wimbledon did.
     
    I love Azarenka too but her form lately is highly suspect with losses to Sharapova, Jankovic and Clijsters in the past month. I bet large on her each time and got burned and do not think it was a fluke but a glaring neon sign that she is just not ready to dominate the tour like she is capable of yet. And even at her peak Azarenka's serve is far too weak and that will cost her vs someone like Serena. I also think Dementieva would take her out based on greater consistency on the ground and tremendous hunger at 27 to finally win a Slam. I think Dementieva would have been a much better dark horse bet.
     
    But it will be fun to see what happens and even if you lose it seems like you can afford it.  Thanks for posting the picks because it is fun to read people's opinions on them. This post has definitely generated more debate than I have seen on here in some time.
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    I am on Federer myself but not large (by my completely different set of financial standards that is, haha) . Am going larger on Serena. Since you think she will probabvly win I am not sure why you are not wagering the 25 large on her for much better odds. Now that would look like a true "goldmine" bet to me same as your Federer future at Wimbledon did.
     
    I love Azarenka too but her form lately is highly suspect with losses to Sharapova, Jankovic and Clijsters in the past month. I bet large on her each time and got burned and do not think it was a fluke but a glaring neon sign that she is just not ready to dominate the tour like she is capable of yet. And even at her peak Azarenka's serve is far too weak and that will cost her vs someone like Serena. I also think Dementieva would take her out based on greater consistency on the ground and tremendous hunger at 27 to finally win a Slam. I think Dementieva would have been a much better dark horse bet.
     
    But it will be fun to see what happens and even if you lose it seems like you can afford it.  Thanks for posting the picks because it is fun to read people's opinions on them. This post has definitely generated more debate than I have seen on here in some time.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Many of you will remember how my Wimbledon picks and how on the money they were. I have 3 picks for the US Open...
     
    My main pick is
     
    25k on Roger Federer NOT to win the US Open. Placed this bet on Betfair.
    1k on Andy Murray to win US Open
    500 dollars e/w Victoria Azarenka to win Womens US Open..
     
    Ok thoughts are as follows. Yes Federer is 5 time champ and won Cincinatti but over the past while he has started to look more and more vunerable. He is not the same force as he was and I think him being a father to twin girls his focus will not be what it should be. Im VERY confident the champ gets dethroned..By who thats another question. I'm thrilled he won Cincinatti as I as I great odds to lay him (no smart comments please)..
     
    Andy Murray is the tenative choice. He is a Grand Slam winner in waiting and I think he is ready, unlike last year. Players like Tsonga and Verdasco are sleepers and Nadal may rediscover his form but Murray has to be the best alternative to Fed..
     
    The womens it looks like Serana but I think we will see a new womens star born. Got a hunch for Azarenka, nothing more concrete I am afraid..
     
    Good Luck all..

    Just one question, if you a bet 25k Anti-Federer wager for US Open, how is the line for that?

    GUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Many of you will remember how my Wimbledon picks and how on the money they were. I have 3 picks for the US Open...
     
    My main pick is
     
    25k on Roger Federer NOT to win the US Open. Placed this bet on Betfair.
    1k on Andy Murray to win US Open
    500 dollars e/w Victoria Azarenka to win Womens US Open..
     
    Ok thoughts are as follows. Yes Federer is 5 time champ and won Cincinatti but over the past while he has started to look more and more vunerable. He is not the same force as he was and I think him being a father to twin girls his focus will not be what it should be. Im VERY confident the champ gets dethroned..By who thats another question. I'm thrilled he won Cincinatti as I as I great odds to lay him (no smart comments please)..
     
    Andy Murray is the tenative choice. He is a Grand Slam winner in waiting and I think he is ready, unlike last year. Players like Tsonga and Verdasco are sleepers and Nadal may rediscover his form but Murray has to be the best alternative to Fed..
     
    The womens it looks like Serana but I think we will see a new womens star born. Got a hunch for Azarenka, nothing more concrete I am afraid..
     
    Good Luck all..

    Just one question, if you a bet 25k Anti-Federer wager for US Open, how is the line for that?

    GUS

     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 2:07 PM ET #17

    cant be sure to be honest. All I know that its 25k to win 41.7k. Got that after Cincinatti. So if it wins its a profit of 16.7k..
     
    Too much maths for me.
     
    I can see why most of you are on Fed, I was on him to for Wimbledon. I just think there is a changing of the tennis guard slowly but surely and I see him being beaten at the US Open..Its more a HUGE hunch then anything
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    cant be sure to be honest. All I know that its 25k to win 41.7k. Got that after Cincinatti. So if it wins its a profit of 16.7k..
     
    Too much maths for me.
     
    I can see why most of you are on Fed, I was on him to for Wimbledon. I just think there is a changing of the tennis guard slowly but surely and I see him being beaten at the US Open..Its more a HUGE hunch then anything
     
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    Mack won't stop until Mack's on top
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    Mack won't stop until Mack's on top
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Tennis Capper why dont you go into further research about that whole debate on the boxing forum. I have said it a million times I have not lied and I will not back down on that, I am willing to prove that and if Covers want to ban me for telling the truth let them go ahead. God I smart asses like you that try to put people down without knowing the full facts to the story. Look ay my last 11 picks. 9 have been winners and they were picked by ME!!!Your a petty little man capper and a jack@ss to boot..
     
    I just give winners, I dont care what people think of me or I dont care who trys to put me down. I have a loyal following here and I would let the pettiness of a few get in the way of that..Do a search on my picks, not hard to see for yourself..
     
    My Federer pick will hit..FACT


    I will agree with you that Tennis Capper came across as overbearing and arrogant.

    But I will disagree with you about your Federer pick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Tennis Capper why dont you go into further research about that whole debate on the boxing forum. I have said it a million times I have not lied and I will not back down on that, I am willing to prove that and if Covers want to ban me for telling the truth let them go ahead. God I smart asses like you that try to put people down without knowing the full facts to the story. Look ay my last 11 picks. 9 have been winners and they were picked by ME!!!Your a petty little man capper and a jack@ss to boot..
     
    I just give winners, I dont care what people think of me or I dont care who trys to put me down. I have a loyal following here and I would let the pettiness of a few get in the way of that..Do a search on my picks, not hard to see for yourself..
     
    My Federer pick will hit..FACT


    I will agree with you that Tennis Capper came across as overbearing and arrogant.

    But I will disagree with you about your Federer pick
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 6:53 PM ET #20

    i am arrogant nwcrazy because i am one of thee best cappers on covers. The next few weeks will prove me right
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    i am arrogant nwcrazy because i am one of thee best cappers on covers. The next few weeks will prove me right
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2009 - 11:40 PM ET #21

    So Mack you're claiming to have gotten -150 on the Fed NO
    .........................................hmmmm
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    So Mack you're claiming to have gotten -150 on the Fed NO
    .........................................hmmmm
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2009 - 10:48 AM ET #22

    yep on betfair.com my friend and there is no 'claiming' about it
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    yep on betfair.com my friend and there is no 'claiming' about it
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2009 - 11:03 AM ET #23

    Mack won't stop until Mack's on top
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    Mack won't stop until Mack's on top
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2009 - 8:58 AM ET #24

    Good aren't i.......The best on cvovers actually
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    Good aren't i.......The best on cvovers actually
     
     
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    Got to love self praise
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    Got to love self praise
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