KEY PTS:
(USING USA TODAY STATS) The
Squares look at this game in the most
basic way; general rankings and stats. OSU
3rd vs OU 4th ranked offense’s in YPG/the
52nd ranked defense of OU vs
the OSU 107th ranked defense.
THAT is what most Squares are looking at, and maybe throw in passing
offense and such, but it basically stops there—that is what sets and moves your
current OSU -3.5 line. Most people
betting—moving this line--this game on Championship weekend have not even seen
more than 2 full games played by either team.
Therein lays the opportunity in this game.
OU/OSU
defensive comparison: This seems
to be the biggest disparity doesn’t it?
OSU has given up 4,990 yds (total), while OU has only given up 4,103—about
80.64 more yards that OSU has given up per game; that is worth a full scoring
drive… on the surface anyway. I think
this separation of defensive talent is ‘smoke and mirrors’ and that the OSU
defensive squad is more a victim of their offense’s prowess than their own lack
of ability. The more a defense is on the
field throughout a season; the more yards that will be given up, and the more
points the opposing offensive’s will score.
OU’s offense tends to win—or at least split—time of possession in their games,
while OSU’s quick strike offense does not.
Hence, OSU’s defense has been on the field a lot more than their
offense, and substantially more the OU’s defense has. Facts:
OU is ranked 48th in the nation in T.O.P. @ 50.27, and OSU is
ranked 114th possessing the pigskin only 44.66% of the time. In my opinion, that explains a lot of the
extra 887 yards OSU’s squad has given up.
Pass
D: OSU’s opposing QB’s ave
passer ratings are 112.1, OU’s are 118.4.
OSU opponents ypp 6.4, last 3 gms 5.4, OU’s is 6.9 for the season and 7.8 for their last 3
gms. Yards per completion: OSU is ranked 29th in the country
@ 11 ypc to OU’s 12.9 for the season, and up in their last 3 gms to 14.8 in
comparison to OSU’s last 3 of 9.9 ypc. OSU
is #2 in the nation in INT’s with 21 compared to OU’s 13—we have to consider
that OSU was passed on 67 more times than OU, but 7 more INT’s? heavy
advantage OSU
This season OSU has given up an average of
4.42 yds per rush attempt, while OU has given up only 3.44. advantage
OU
OSU picked off 21 of 460 (4.57%) passing attempts, and going against Landry
Jones who has a TD/INT ratio of 28/12, while OU’s D has picked off 13 of the
393 (3.31%) attempts it faced going against 28 year old Brandon Weedon’s TD/INT
ratio of 34/12
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OKLAHOMA @ OSU
KEY PTS:
(USING USA TODAY STATS) The
Squares look at this game in the most
basic way; general rankings and stats. OSU
3rd vs OU 4th ranked offense’s in YPG/the
52nd ranked defense of OU vs
the OSU 107th ranked defense.
THAT is what most Squares are looking at, and maybe throw in passing
offense and such, but it basically stops there—that is what sets and moves your
current OSU -3.5 line. Most people
betting—moving this line--this game on Championship weekend have not even seen
more than 2 full games played by either team.
Therein lays the opportunity in this game.
OU/OSU
defensive comparison: This seems
to be the biggest disparity doesn’t it?
OSU has given up 4,990 yds (total), while OU has only given up 4,103—about
80.64 more yards that OSU has given up per game; that is worth a full scoring
drive… on the surface anyway. I think
this separation of defensive talent is ‘smoke and mirrors’ and that the OSU
defensive squad is more a victim of their offense’s prowess than their own lack
of ability. The more a defense is on the
field throughout a season; the more yards that will be given up, and the more
points the opposing offensive’s will score.
OU’s offense tends to win—or at least split—time of possession in their games,
while OSU’s quick strike offense does not.
Hence, OSU’s defense has been on the field a lot more than their
offense, and substantially more the OU’s defense has. Facts:
OU is ranked 48th in the nation in T.O.P. @ 50.27, and OSU is
ranked 114th possessing the pigskin only 44.66% of the time. In my opinion, that explains a lot of the
extra 887 yards OSU’s squad has given up.
Pass
D: OSU’s opposing QB’s ave
passer ratings are 112.1, OU’s are 118.4.
OSU opponents ypp 6.4, last 3 gms 5.4, OU’s is 6.9 for the season and 7.8 for their last 3
gms. Yards per completion: OSU is ranked 29th in the country
@ 11 ypc to OU’s 12.9 for the season, and up in their last 3 gms to 14.8 in
comparison to OSU’s last 3 of 9.9 ypc. OSU
is #2 in the nation in INT’s with 21 compared to OU’s 13—we have to consider
that OSU was passed on 67 more times than OU, but 7 more INT’s? heavy
advantage OSU
This season OSU has given up an average of
4.42 yds per rush attempt, while OU has given up only 3.44. advantage
OU
OSU picked off 21 of 460 (4.57%) passing attempts, and going against Landry
Jones who has a TD/INT ratio of 28/12, while OU’s D has picked off 13 of the
393 (3.31%) attempts it faced going against 28 year old Brandon Weedon’s TD/INT
ratio of 34/12
Defensive summary: In yards
against; it appears that OU’s defense is ranked 52nd to OSU’s 107th, and
in NO WAY is their defense that dominant in comparison, but once again that is
what the Squares look at, that is what dictates the line movements, and that is
where our monetary advantage is. OU’s
run D is better than OSU’s, but with OU’s Dominique Whaley out for the season
OU’s run game has 560 yds in their last 3 games. Interesting note: Landry Jones was 16-6 (TD/INT) when he had
Dominique Whaley in the backfield, and has gone 12-6 (TD/INT) in the following
games that Whaley has not started (broken ankle). In addition,
not counting the 253 yards that OU rushed for vs Iowa States 98th
ranked rush defense—OU has rushed for only 501 yards in 4 games (since losing
Whaley)— 125 per game.
OSU’s basic D rankings/stats will look inferior to OU’s to the average
Square capping this game, but a deeper look actually seems to favor OSU.
·
T.O.P.:
OU makes only 40.4 % of 3rd down
conversions, OSU makes 48.4%...... OSU
is ranked 114th in the country in T.O.P. Possessing the ball only 44.66% of the time,
while OU is ranked 48th having the ball 50.27% of the time. What does that really mean? OU has played against more battle worn
defenses (mattering most in the 3rd and 4th quarters)
than OSU has. Last 3 games OU has possessed
the ball 55.78% (about 100 or 180 minutes), while OSU has only possessed the
ball 42.64% of the last 3 (just under 77 of the last 180 minutes of game)
Bedlam
series history: Oklahoma leads
the overall series 82-16-7. Oklahoma 7-2-1
of the last 10 played in Stillwater. The
last win for OSU in the Bedlam series was in 2002 when Les Miles was at the
helm. Last year the Cowboys were both
ranked higher, and favored in Stillwater and still lost 47-41—though not many
of us could contest that they played a hard fought game. Advantage
OU
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Defensive summary: In yards
against; it appears that OU’s defense is ranked 52nd to OSU’s 107th, and
in NO WAY is their defense that dominant in comparison, but once again that is
what the Squares look at, that is what dictates the line movements, and that is
where our monetary advantage is. OU’s
run D is better than OSU’s, but with OU’s Dominique Whaley out for the season
OU’s run game has 560 yds in their last 3 games. Interesting note: Landry Jones was 16-6 (TD/INT) when he had
Dominique Whaley in the backfield, and has gone 12-6 (TD/INT) in the following
games that Whaley has not started (broken ankle). In addition,
not counting the 253 yards that OU rushed for vs Iowa States 98th
ranked rush defense—OU has rushed for only 501 yards in 4 games (since losing
Whaley)— 125 per game.
OSU’s basic D rankings/stats will look inferior to OU’s to the average
Square capping this game, but a deeper look actually seems to favor OSU.
·
T.O.P.:
OU makes only 40.4 % of 3rd down
conversions, OSU makes 48.4%...... OSU
is ranked 114th in the country in T.O.P. Possessing the ball only 44.66% of the time,
while OU is ranked 48th having the ball 50.27% of the time. What does that really mean? OU has played against more battle worn
defenses (mattering most in the 3rd and 4th quarters)
than OSU has. Last 3 games OU has possessed
the ball 55.78% (about 100 or 180 minutes), while OSU has only possessed the
ball 42.64% of the last 3 (just under 77 of the last 180 minutes of game)
Bedlam
series history: Oklahoma leads
the overall series 82-16-7. Oklahoma 7-2-1
of the last 10 played in Stillwater. The
last win for OSU in the Bedlam series was in 2002 when Les Miles was at the
helm. Last year the Cowboys were both
ranked higher, and favored in Stillwater and still lost 47-41—though not many
of us could contest that they played a hard fought game. Advantage
OU
weather forecast: is a rainy 43 degrees with a 12 mph wind (lessening from
the 16-18 mph earlier in the day) this
plays into the favor of OU due to the superior passing game of the Cowboys, but
slightly offset by Landry Jones being the less talented passer. Slight
advantage Sooners.
Injuries:
OU: In the last 2 games without Ryan
Broyles—OU’s most productive WR—Landry has just 703 yards passing (average of
351.5 per game) as opposed to the 380 yrds passing OU averaged before Broyles
tore his ACL. Dominique Whaley is an
even bigger loss for this OU squad in my opinion; now the pressure is on Jones
to run a pass heavy offense. Frank
Alexander (DE) is probable, Jaz Reynolds served his one gm suspension and is
expected to play.
OSU: OSU has not ‘NEW’ major injuries. WR Michael Harrison is listed as ‘questionable’
for this match up (been out since week 10).
Advantage
OSU
Motivation:
OU has dominated this series, and would like to continue that winning
tradition. OU would like validation by
grabbing a marque win against the nations 3rd ranked team. OU’s motivation pales in comparison. Alabama seems on track for a birth into the National
Championship game—as unfair as the Cowboys probably feel that is. Once the Cowboys beat OU, they will have a
strong argument that they deserve a shot at LSU more so than the Tide…. But that
is another argument. Fact is that OSU
wants to win this game decisively to have ANY shot at a National title shot—OU is
not even in the running. A close win by
OSU will seal their fate, but a decisive win could spark more hope. Advantage
OSU
Summary:
This game is pretty simple when you dive
into it. OSU wants this game more, and they
are the better team, playing at home in front of a fan base witnessing the best
team this program ever fielded. Just
looking at the overall rankings, defensive rankings, and offensive rankings
give a thwarted impression. OU has 2 key
injuries on offense that has started to expose an over rated QB who is starting
to sputter due to an imbalanced attack.
OSU is much more formidable than what they look on paper due to their
offense’s prowess and quick strike tendency.
OSU has more motivation in this game than OU, and is primed to show the
world that they deserve a national title shot.
No need to break down the offenses; a blind man can see that OSU is by
far the more prolific threat, and compiling the key losses of OU over the past
few weeks…the margin just spread wider.
The weather in Stillwater will serve OU and
could prove challenging to OSU’s point a minute offense, but Landry Jones will
be even more susceptible to mishaps and turnovers because of it. Hence, the real story is the weather. OSU covers the 3.5 chalk either way, but if
the weather lightens up, they win this one in double digit fashion.
OSU
-3.5
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weather forecast: is a rainy 43 degrees with a 12 mph wind (lessening from
the 16-18 mph earlier in the day) this
plays into the favor of OU due to the superior passing game of the Cowboys, but
slightly offset by Landry Jones being the less talented passer. Slight
advantage Sooners.
Injuries:
OU: In the last 2 games without Ryan
Broyles—OU’s most productive WR—Landry has just 703 yards passing (average of
351.5 per game) as opposed to the 380 yrds passing OU averaged before Broyles
tore his ACL. Dominique Whaley is an
even bigger loss for this OU squad in my opinion; now the pressure is on Jones
to run a pass heavy offense. Frank
Alexander (DE) is probable, Jaz Reynolds served his one gm suspension and is
expected to play.
OSU: OSU has not ‘NEW’ major injuries. WR Michael Harrison is listed as ‘questionable’
for this match up (been out since week 10).
Advantage
OSU
Motivation:
OU has dominated this series, and would like to continue that winning
tradition. OU would like validation by
grabbing a marque win against the nations 3rd ranked team. OU’s motivation pales in comparison. Alabama seems on track for a birth into the National
Championship game—as unfair as the Cowboys probably feel that is. Once the Cowboys beat OU, they will have a
strong argument that they deserve a shot at LSU more so than the Tide…. But that
is another argument. Fact is that OSU
wants to win this game decisively to have ANY shot at a National title shot—OU is
not even in the running. A close win by
OSU will seal their fate, but a decisive win could spark more hope. Advantage
OSU
Summary:
This game is pretty simple when you dive
into it. OSU wants this game more, and they
are the better team, playing at home in front of a fan base witnessing the best
team this program ever fielded. Just
looking at the overall rankings, defensive rankings, and offensive rankings
give a thwarted impression. OU has 2 key
injuries on offense that has started to expose an over rated QB who is starting
to sputter due to an imbalanced attack.
OSU is much more formidable than what they look on paper due to their
offense’s prowess and quick strike tendency.
OSU has more motivation in this game than OU, and is primed to show the
world that they deserve a national title shot.
No need to break down the offenses; a blind man can see that OSU is by
far the more prolific threat, and compiling the key losses of OU over the past
few weeks…the margin just spread wider.
The weather in Stillwater will serve OU and
could prove challenging to OSU’s point a minute offense, but Landry Jones will
be even more susceptible to mishaps and turnovers because of it. Hence, the real story is the weather. OSU covers the 3.5 chalk either way, but if
the weather lightens up, they win this one in double digit fashion.
Not sure if you mentioned it or not, but Ok St is coming off of a bye as well. Another advantage.
I actually consider that a push....although late in the season a bye is more beneficial...but a 15 day 'breather' following the first loss of the season... goes both ways... there is the 'rusty' effect, the 15 days to ponder ISU, and the rest of banged up players....I got that as a non-factor that could sway either way...... BoL 2 U bro
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Quote Originally Posted by DanTos8715:
Not sure if you mentioned it or not, but Ok St is coming off of a bye as well. Another advantage.
I actually consider that a push....although late in the season a bye is more beneficial...but a 15 day 'breather' following the first loss of the season... goes both ways... there is the 'rusty' effect, the 15 days to ponder ISU, and the rest of banged up players....I got that as a non-factor that could sway either way...... BoL 2 U bro
you should pretty much throw stats out the window when it comes to these rivalry games. look what happened between texas vs texas a&m. didnt texas a&m want that game more? im laying off or maybe fade ok st.
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you should pretty much throw stats out the window when it comes to these rivalry games. look what happened between texas vs texas a&m. didnt texas a&m want that game more? im laying off or maybe fade ok st.
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