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    Interesting St. Louis & Nashville Stats

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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:04 AM ET #1

    Ken Hitchcock coached teams are 0-17 with one tie in their last 18 trips to Nashville! That dates back to February 2001. That is a truly bizarre and remarkable stat.
     
    Other stats and trends that favor the Preds:
     
    St. Louis on the road:
    10-16 overall
    4-16 vs the Western conference
    1-7 vs division opponents
    0-2 in Nashville
     
    The Blues have scored a total of only 9 goals in their previous 8 division road games!
     
    They have lost all 4 games overall vs the Preds this year and have scored only 5 goals in those 4 games.
     
    Nashville is 13-5 vs Central foes this year including 7-2 at home.
     
    Pekke Rinne vs St. Louis:
    12-7 in his career with a 1.85 GAA and a .937 save%
    4-0 this year with a 1.20 GAA and a .967 save%
     
    Jaroslav Halak on the road this year:
    2-11 overall
    0-11 vs the Western conference
    0-4 vs division opponents
    0-2 in Nashville
     
    The Blues have scored exactly 1 goal in each of the 4 division road games Halak has started. All 4 games were easy winners for the under players (Two 2-1 games and two 3-1 games). St. Louis is 8-24 when scoring 2 or fewer goals in a game.
     
    STL has played 17 road games with Ken Hitchcock as coach. The total has gone over only once! The Blues have not had two games in a row go over the total with Hitchcock as coach. Their game went over last night.............
     
    We all know the Blues have been great at home this year and shitty on the road. Look no further than their top 3 overall point producers;
     
    Their home numbers:
    D. Backes     10-18 for 28 points (+22)
    TJ Oshie        11-20 for 31 points (+19)
    A. Pietrangelo 8-20 for 28 points (+24)

    Their road numbers:
    D. Backes          7-7 for 14 points (-5)
    TJ Oshie             4-4 for 8 points (-7)
    A. Pietrangelo     2-4 for 6 points (-7)
     
    Vs the Central (15 overall games)
    D. Backes      3-5 for 8 points (-5)
    TJ Oshie         4-5 for 9 points (-6)
    A. Pietrangelo 1-0 for 1 point (-6)
     
    How Alex Pietrangelo has zero assists in 15 division games is almost as bizarre as the Hitchcock stat. No surprise then that STL is 5-10 vs Central rivals.
     
    It also appears to me that David Backes is playing hurt. He has not had any jump for several games now. He has not been his usual physical force in all three zones and his production is way down. If his line doesn't produce, the chances of a Blues win is minimal because Chris Stewart and Patrik Berglund have been awful this year. Throw in injuries to Alex Steen and to a lesser extent, Matt D'Agostini and the Blues scoring woes continue.....
     
    Considering all of the above stats and the fact that STL is B2B and Nashville has been sitting at home preparing for this game, the line is relatively low. You would have to have some big balls to take St. Louis and/or the over in this spot.
     
    However, the games have been very competitive in Nashville and it isn't like the Preds have skated circles around the Blues. It does appear that Rinne is inside the heads of the Blues players though. He has been dominant against them this year.

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    Ken Hitchcock coached teams are 0-17 with one tie in their last 18 trips to Nashville! That dates back to February 2001. That is a truly bizarre and remarkable stat.
     
    Other stats and trends that favor the Preds:
     
    St. Louis on the road:
    10-16 overall
    4-16 vs the Western conference
    1-7 vs division opponents
    0-2 in Nashville
     
    The Blues have scored a total of only 9 goals in their previous 8 division road games!
     
    They have lost all 4 games overall vs the Preds this year and have scored only 5 goals in those 4 games.
     
    Nashville is 13-5 vs Central foes this year including 7-2 at home.
     
    Pekke Rinne vs St. Louis:
    12-7 in his career with a 1.85 GAA and a .937 save%
    4-0 this year with a 1.20 GAA and a .967 save%
     
    Jaroslav Halak on the road this year:
    2-11 overall
    0-11 vs the Western conference
    0-4 vs division opponents
    0-2 in Nashville
     
    The Blues have scored exactly 1 goal in each of the 4 division road games Halak has started. All 4 games were easy winners for the under players (Two 2-1 games and two 3-1 games). St. Louis is 8-24 when scoring 2 or fewer goals in a game.
     
    STL has played 17 road games with Ken Hitchcock as coach. The total has gone over only once! The Blues have not had two games in a row go over the total with Hitchcock as coach. Their game went over last night.............
     
    We all know the Blues have been great at home this year and shitty on the road. Look no further than their top 3 overall point producers;
     
    Their home numbers:
    D. Backes     10-18 for 28 points (+22)
    TJ Oshie        11-20 for 31 points (+19)
    A. Pietrangelo 8-20 for 28 points (+24)

    Their road numbers:
    D. Backes          7-7 for 14 points (-5)
    TJ Oshie             4-4 for 8 points (-7)
    A. Pietrangelo     2-4 for 6 points (-7)
     
    Vs the Central (15 overall games)
    D. Backes      3-5 for 8 points (-5)
    TJ Oshie         4-5 for 9 points (-6)
    A. Pietrangelo 1-0 for 1 point (-6)
     
    How Alex Pietrangelo has zero assists in 15 division games is almost as bizarre as the Hitchcock stat. No surprise then that STL is 5-10 vs Central rivals.
     
    It also appears to me that David Backes is playing hurt. He has not had any jump for several games now. He has not been his usual physical force in all three zones and his production is way down. If his line doesn't produce, the chances of a Blues win is minimal because Chris Stewart and Patrik Berglund have been awful this year. Throw in injuries to Alex Steen and to a lesser extent, Matt D'Agostini and the Blues scoring woes continue.....
     
    Considering all of the above stats and the fact that STL is B2B and Nashville has been sitting at home preparing for this game, the line is relatively low. You would have to have some big balls to take St. Louis and/or the over in this spot.
     
    However, the games have been very competitive in Nashville and it isn't like the Preds have skated circles around the Blues. It does appear that Rinne is inside the heads of the Blues players though. He has been dominant against them this year.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:11 AM ET #2

    under 5 !!
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    under 5 !!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:29 AM ET #3

    Nice job thanks for the data. 
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    Nice job thanks for the data. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:49 AM ET #4

    nice break down man. like most games, tough one, can't take the over. bol 2 ya if you play this one.
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    nice break down man. like most games, tough one, can't take the over. bol 2 ya if you play this one.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:51 AM ET #5

    Already on the Preds here.
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    Already on the Preds here.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 9:01 AM ET #6

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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 10:21 AM ET #7

    PREDS & UNDER
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    PREDS & UNDER
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 10:52 AM ET #9

    Awesome info thanks buddy 
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    Awesome info thanks buddy 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 11:10 AM ET #10

    preds and under seems solid, i hate when bets seem too obvious though so i might either bet small or lay off.
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    preds and under seems solid, i hate when bets seem too obvious though so i might either bet small or lay off.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 1:39 PM ET #11

    Blues fan here, you nailed it.

    Preds or nothing  
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    Blues fan here, you nailed it.

    Preds or nothing  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 3:08 PM ET #12

    excellent info as always, TDD. I was thinking Blues BUT will just avoid the game after reading this
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    excellent info as always, TDD. I was thinking Blues BUT will just avoid the game after reading this
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 3:12 PM ET #14

    Preds
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    Preds
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 3:33 PM ET #15

    Thanks TDD! On the Preds too!
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 4:31 PM ET #16

    also note that the team with the best defense by ppg and the fav in that game is less than -170 or less,  that defense is on a cuurent run of being winless in over a week and that is the role the BLUES are in tonight.
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    also note that the team with the best defense by ppg and the fav in that game is less than -170 or less,  that defense is on a cuurent run of being winless in over a week and that is the role the BLUES are in tonight.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 4:39 PM ET #17

    0-17 Sounds like someone is due! 
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    0-17 Sounds like someone is due! 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 5:26 PM ET #18

    when i saw your thread, before opening i knew it would be bias against your blues? as usual excellent write up,should be a good game, one that i would rather watch than to touch.best of luck to you tdd!
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    when i saw your thread, before opening i knew it would be bias against your blues? as usual excellent write up,should be a good game, one that i would rather watch than to touch.best of luck to you tdd!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 5:37 PM ET #19

     

    really like NAS ov 2.5

    Bet 5 Play Over Parlays and get rich
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    really like NAS ov 2.5

     
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    Thanks boys. 
     
    The only other info I have heard since I got home from work is that there is a good chance that Andy McDonald plays on the top line tonight with Backes and Oshie. Hitchcock had to do something since the 1st line has been quiet lately. Obviously the risk is putting your eggs in one basket, but Hitch knows that if his team can get a couple of goals tonight they have a chance because this series has been very low scoring.
     
    How will Halak respond after his recent bout with the flu? The difference in scoring output and +/- for the Blues top 3 point producers at home vs the road are staggering.
     
    I honestly can't come up with one reason (spot, stats, or price) why to take the Blues tonight other than the fact that the public is all over the Preds and a wager on Nashville seems too obvious. I never lay juice and was going to take the Preds in regulation, but have decided to pass on this tilt and just watch it for the entertainment value. I hate to be on the same side of a public fave regardless if the wager I make is for plus money.
     
    This is a big game as far as the 4th seed in the West goes. If the Blues can sneak out of Music City with a win, it would go a long way in keeping them ahead the Preds the rest of the way. There have been a lot of OT/SO games in this series and that also favors the Preds because of the Blues terrible record in shootouts.
     
    This is the first of a six game road trip for STL and they have to find a way to play a full 60 minutes on the road. They still have a 7 game roadie next month! The Blues have played well for 40 minutes in a few of their division losses, but 3rd period meltdowns have cost them. They haven't played a complete good road game in over a month. Their games at NJ and CLB recently were two of their worst efforts even though they snuck out a win vs the Devils.
     
    There has been a lot of recent talk in the media around here about the Blues piss poor road record. Do they circle the wagons and play balls to the wall tonight and get the win or do they lose another low scoring road game to an opponent that is on their tails?
     
    Nashville winning a 2-1 or 3-2 game seems logical, but you never know in the NHL................... Hopefully it is as entertaining as their game a few backs.
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    Thanks boys. 
     
    The only other info I have heard since I got home from work is that there is a good chance that Andy McDonald plays on the top line tonight with Backes and Oshie. Hitchcock had to do something since the 1st line has been quiet lately. Obviously the risk is putting your eggs in one basket, but Hitch knows that if his team can get a couple of goals tonight they have a chance because this series has been very low scoring.
     
    How will Halak respond after his recent bout with the flu? The difference in scoring output and +/- for the Blues top 3 point producers at home vs the road are staggering.
     
    I honestly can't come up with one reason (spot, stats, or price) why to take the Blues tonight other than the fact that the public is all over the Preds and a wager on Nashville seems too obvious. I never lay juice and was going to take the Preds in regulation, but have decided to pass on this tilt and just watch it for the entertainment value. I hate to be on the same side of a public fave regardless if the wager I make is for plus money.
     
    This is a big game as far as the 4th seed in the West goes. If the Blues can sneak out of Music City with a win, it would go a long way in keeping them ahead the Preds the rest of the way. There have been a lot of OT/SO games in this series and that also favors the Preds because of the Blues terrible record in shootouts.
     
    This is the first of a six game road trip for STL and they have to find a way to play a full 60 minutes on the road. They still have a 7 game roadie next month! The Blues have played well for 40 minutes in a few of their division losses, but 3rd period meltdowns have cost them. They haven't played a complete good road game in over a month. Their games at NJ and CLB recently were two of their worst efforts even though they snuck out a win vs the Devils.
     
    There has been a lot of recent talk in the media around here about the Blues piss poor road record. Do they circle the wagons and play balls to the wall tonight and get the win or do they lose another low scoring road game to an opponent that is on their tails?
     
    Nashville winning a 2-1 or 3-2 game seems logical, but you never know in the NHL................... Hopefully it is as entertaining as their game a few backs.
     
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    ended up taking preds, small play.
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    GL with your choice buddy,laying off this game myself
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    More reason for me to like Nashville over St. Louis in a potential first round matchup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by potvin:

    when i saw your thread, before opening i knew it would be bias against your blues? as usual excellent write up,should be a good game, one that i would rather watch than to touch.best of luck to you tdd!

    I consider myself a straight shooter and a non homer. The facts are that the Blues have been brutal on the road and the only reason they have been near the top of the conference is due to the imbalance of their schedule. That will change starting with this 6 game road trip. They have to find a way to get 8 points out of this trip or else a slide to 6th in the conference standings is probable.

    I posted some telling stats that you won't find unless you really dig. Some will argue that they are irrelevant, but I thought I would share them with the board. It is too easy to post all of thier great home stats.

    I will post one more unbelievable stat about the Blues on the road. This time a positive one. 

    STL is 6-0 on the road this year vs Eastern conference teams!!

    That means they are 4-16 vs the West   

    GL tonight Potvin. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by potvin:

    when i saw your thread, before opening i knew it would be bias against your blues? as usual excellent write up,should be a good game, one that i would rather watch than to touch.best of luck to you tdd!

    I consider myself a straight shooter and a non homer. The facts are that the Blues have been brutal on the road and the only reason they have been near the top of the conference is due to the imbalance of their schedule. That will change starting with this 6 game road trip. They have to find a way to get 8 points out of this trip or else a slide to 6th in the conference standings is probable.

    I posted some telling stats that you won't find unless you really dig. Some will argue that they are irrelevant, but I thought I would share them with the board. It is too easy to post all of thier great home stats.

    I will post one more unbelievable stat about the Blues on the road. This time a positive one. 

    STL is 6-0 on the road this year vs Eastern conference teams!!

    That means they are 4-16 vs the West   

    GL tonight Potvin. 

     
     
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