I know I know what ur going to say.. "CG what are the chances they win by exactly six"
hmm what were the chances I lose my Miami heat -1 bet up 79-65 going into the 4th at Milwaukee last week against a ice cold bucks team who lost six in a row?
what were the chances I lost my SPURS ML bet 3 weeks ago vs the Cavs... up 6 with 35 seconds left... up 3 with 13 seconds left and Kwai Leonard shooting two FT's
What were the chances taking florida +16.5 instead of +17 would actually make a difference between a loss and a push?
What were the chances I would go from losing my eastern Washington +8 bet against gtown in the tourney... once I missed down 8 and was walking off the court not fouling? GTWON decides to classless dunk with 1 second left
What were the chances I would lose my Suns at Nets bet... had the Nets up 13 with 5 min left at home and they don't score A SINGLE PT the last 5 min and change
What were the chances I would not win my Michigan state -4 bet vs Maryland in the big 10 tourney? up 4 with 4 seconds left and Maryland somehow dosent foul and I have an uncontested dunk I didn't take....
When was the last time an NBA team scored 131 pts and didn't cover? let alone not WIN like the Thunder did for me Wednesday
Those are just a few... there have been more brutal losses than that, just a few that popped off the top of my head... each game being a 2K-4K swing in my journey in the wrong direction
so ur not exactly dealing with someone with good luck from the gambling gods here... so any insurance I can take I MUST DO SO.. as I lose 90% of my games on phantom events by a half pt or pt...
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I know I know what ur going to say.. "CG what are the chances they win by exactly six"
hmm what were the chances I lose my Miami heat -1 bet up 79-65 going into the 4th at Milwaukee last week against a ice cold bucks team who lost six in a row?
what were the chances I lost my SPURS ML bet 3 weeks ago vs the Cavs... up 6 with 35 seconds left... up 3 with 13 seconds left and Kwai Leonard shooting two FT's
What were the chances taking florida +16.5 instead of +17 would actually make a difference between a loss and a push?
What were the chances I would go from losing my eastern Washington +8 bet against gtown in the tourney... once I missed down 8 and was walking off the court not fouling? GTWON decides to classless dunk with 1 second left
What were the chances I would lose my Suns at Nets bet... had the Nets up 13 with 5 min left at home and they don't score A SINGLE PT the last 5 min and change
What were the chances I would not win my Michigan state -4 bet vs Maryland in the big 10 tourney? up 4 with 4 seconds left and Maryland somehow dosent foul and I have an uncontested dunk I didn't take....
When was the last time an NBA team scored 131 pts and didn't cover? let alone not WIN like the Thunder did for me Wednesday
Those are just a few... there have been more brutal losses than that, just a few that popped off the top of my head... each game being a 2K-4K swing in my journey in the wrong direction
so ur not exactly dealing with someone with good luck from the gambling gods here... so any insurance I can take I MUST DO SO.. as I lose 90% of my games on phantom events by a half pt or pt...
You are paying an extra 15 cents for 1 point so let say your "bomb" play is to win 5000, you will risk 6000 to win 5000, if you play the +5 -105 you can risk 6k and win 5715. So you risk the same amount but cut you profit by 715 if it lands on any number other than 6. Get it? Also you love the game so much and somehow you think the wrong team is favored, why would you need to buy a point?
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You are paying an extra 15 cents for 1 point so let say your "bomb" play is to win 5000, you will risk 6000 to win 5000, if you play the +5 -105 you can risk 6k and win 5715. So you risk the same amount but cut you profit by 715 if it lands on any number other than 6. Get it? Also you love the game so much and somehow you think the wrong team is favored, why would you need to buy a point?
why? one time I didn't take the best line out here... ONE TIME when my mom was here.... took florida +16.5 instead of +17 because didn't wanna make the extra drive
florida at Kentucky... what happened? 17 pt loss... same thing could happen here, no?
that would be great.. take wiscy +5 (-105) and they lose by 6... I lose my bet instead of pushing by buying it up to +6 (-120) at the one book where they are +5.5
Yes, same thing could happen for sure. I can easily see Wisky losing by 17. Buy it up 12 points, because you only pay juice on the losses, as you have so ignorantly pointed out so many times.
I mean, you can't really be this ignorant, can you? Are you just not good at logic or math? You're Mickey Mouse when it comes to math bro.
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Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:
why? one time I didn't take the best line out here... ONE TIME when my mom was here.... took florida +16.5 instead of +17 because didn't wanna make the extra drive
florida at Kentucky... what happened? 17 pt loss... same thing could happen here, no?
that would be great.. take wiscy +5 (-105) and they lose by 6... I lose my bet instead of pushing by buying it up to +6 (-120) at the one book where they are +5.5
Yes, same thing could happen for sure. I can easily see Wisky losing by 17. Buy it up 12 points, because you only pay juice on the losses, as you have so ignorantly pointed out so many times.
I mean, you can't really be this ignorant, can you? Are you just not good at logic or math? You're Mickey Mouse when it comes to math bro.
Yes, same thing could happen for sure. I can easily see Wisky losing by 17. Buy it up 12 points, because you only pay juice on the losses, as you have so ignorantly pointed out so many times.
I mean, you can't really be this ignorant, can you? Are you just not good at logic or math? You're Mickey Mouse when it comes to math bro.
no no no .. what I was saying is if I take wiscy +5 -105 instead of +6 -120 that Kentucky could beat me by that half pt-pt range again... just like my florida +16.5 bet when I could have gotten +17 and pushed instead of lost..
that's what I was saying... basically saying when u look at my losses so many are sick and by a pt or half pt so any insurance I can get is huge
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Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:
Yes, same thing could happen for sure. I can easily see Wisky losing by 17. Buy it up 12 points, because you only pay juice on the losses, as you have so ignorantly pointed out so many times.
I mean, you can't really be this ignorant, can you? Are you just not good at logic or math? You're Mickey Mouse when it comes to math bro.
no no no .. what I was saying is if I take wiscy +5 -105 instead of +6 -120 that Kentucky could beat me by that half pt-pt range again... just like my florida +16.5 bet when I could have gotten +17 and pushed instead of lost..
that's what I was saying... basically saying when u look at my losses so many are sick and by a pt or half pt so any insurance I can get is huge
Do you ever look at how many games you have bought a half point and it doesn't come into play whether you won or lost the bet? You have no idea how much you cost yourself in profit and how much extra you lost because I doubt you have a chart where you keep tract of this stuff, buying points or paying higher juice is idiotic. I don't care what sport and what number, I will never buy half a point and yes that includes football on 2.5, 3.5, 6.5 and 7.5 lines.
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Do you ever look at how many games you have bought a half point and it doesn't come into play whether you won or lost the bet? You have no idea how much you cost yourself in profit and how much extra you lost because I doubt you have a chart where you keep tract of this stuff, buying points or paying higher juice is idiotic. I don't care what sport and what number, I will never buy half a point and yes that includes football on 2.5, 3.5, 6.5 and 7.5 lines.
You are paying an extra 15 cents for 1 point so let say your "bomb" play is to win 5000, you will risk 6000 to win 5000, if you play the +5 -105 you can risk 6k and win 5715. So you risk the same amount but cut you profit by 715 if it lands on any number other than 6. Get it? Also you love the game so much and somehow you think the wrong team is favored, why would you need to buy a point?
I totally "get it" pt is look at my losses... just listen to me and look at them.. u can see I am quite unlucky.. I get 10 bad bets for every 1 lucky win if not more.... so a pt difference for a bettor with my luck is criticial..
purdue -5.5 vs penn state in big 10 tourney... if I bought that to -5 I push instead of lose...
whitchita state -6 vs Indiana.... win by 5
both games bc of missed FT"s
it's amazing.. maybe since u guys aren't the ones making the bets u don't realize it... but if I had bought the half pt on all of my bets I would have had about 5-6 pushes instead of losses... and in every case I should have won the spread with my original number which is the sickest part of it
I sound like a loser talking about bad beats since I am down, but look at those beats... they are some of the most brutal ones of the season without a doubt, all within a month or so of each other.. hard to believe... each time a 2-4K swing.. if I had even BAD luck and not HISTORICALLY BAD luck I would be even right now.
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Quote Originally Posted by chaloots:
You are paying an extra 15 cents for 1 point so let say your "bomb" play is to win 5000, you will risk 6000 to win 5000, if you play the +5 -105 you can risk 6k and win 5715. So you risk the same amount but cut you profit by 715 if it lands on any number other than 6. Get it? Also you love the game so much and somehow you think the wrong team is favored, why would you need to buy a point?
I totally "get it" pt is look at my losses... just listen to me and look at them.. u can see I am quite unlucky.. I get 10 bad bets for every 1 lucky win if not more.... so a pt difference for a bettor with my luck is criticial..
purdue -5.5 vs penn state in big 10 tourney... if I bought that to -5 I push instead of lose...
whitchita state -6 vs Indiana.... win by 5
both games bc of missed FT"s
it's amazing.. maybe since u guys aren't the ones making the bets u don't realize it... but if I had bought the half pt on all of my bets I would have had about 5-6 pushes instead of losses... and in every case I should have won the spread with my original number which is the sickest part of it
I sound like a loser talking about bad beats since I am down, but look at those beats... they are some of the most brutal ones of the season without a doubt, all within a month or so of each other.. hard to believe... each time a 2-4K swing.. if I had even BAD luck and not HISTORICALLY BAD luck I would be even right now.
I know I know what ur going to say.. "CG what are the chances they win by exactly six"
hmm what were the chances I lose my Miami heat -1 bet up 79-65 going into the 4th at Milwaukee last week against a ice cold bucks team who lost six in a row?
what were the chances I lost my SPURS ML bet 3 weeks ago vs the Cavs... up 6 with 35 seconds left... up 3 with 13 seconds left and Kwai Leonard shooting two FT's
What were the chances taking florida +16.5 instead of +17 would actually make a difference between a loss and a push?
What were the chances I would go from losing my eastern Washington +8 bet against gtown in the tourney... once I missed down 8 and was walking off the court not fouling? GTWON decides to classless dunk with 1 second left
What were the chances I would lose my Suns at Nets bet... had the Nets up 13 with 5 min left at home and they don't score A SINGLE PT the last 5 min and change
What were the chances I would not win my Michigan state -4 bet vs Maryland in the big 10 tourney? up 4 with 4 seconds left and Maryland somehow dosent foul and I have an uncontested dunk I didn't take....
When was the last time an NBA team scored 131 pts and didn't cover? let alone not WIN like the Thunder did for me Wednesday
Those are just a few... there have been more brutal losses than that, just a few that popped off the top of my head... each game being a 2K-4K swing in my journey in the wrong direction
so ur not exactly dealing with someone with good luck from the gambling gods here... so any insurance I can take I MUST DO SO.. as I lose 90% of my games on phantom events by a half pt or pt...
read this again... and tell me u don't think someone with luck like this should take every pt he can get?
most ppl I agree it's crazy to go from +5 -105 to +6 -120
banking on a one pt difference helping u knowing u have to risk an extra 15 cents
but normal people don't lose ONE of the games mentioned above, let alone ALL OF THEM like me
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Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:
I know I know what ur going to say.. "CG what are the chances they win by exactly six"
hmm what were the chances I lose my Miami heat -1 bet up 79-65 going into the 4th at Milwaukee last week against a ice cold bucks team who lost six in a row?
what were the chances I lost my SPURS ML bet 3 weeks ago vs the Cavs... up 6 with 35 seconds left... up 3 with 13 seconds left and Kwai Leonard shooting two FT's
What were the chances taking florida +16.5 instead of +17 would actually make a difference between a loss and a push?
What were the chances I would go from losing my eastern Washington +8 bet against gtown in the tourney... once I missed down 8 and was walking off the court not fouling? GTWON decides to classless dunk with 1 second left
What were the chances I would lose my Suns at Nets bet... had the Nets up 13 with 5 min left at home and they don't score A SINGLE PT the last 5 min and change
What were the chances I would not win my Michigan state -4 bet vs Maryland in the big 10 tourney? up 4 with 4 seconds left and Maryland somehow dosent foul and I have an uncontested dunk I didn't take....
When was the last time an NBA team scored 131 pts and didn't cover? let alone not WIN like the Thunder did for me Wednesday
Those are just a few... there have been more brutal losses than that, just a few that popped off the top of my head... each game being a 2K-4K swing in my journey in the wrong direction
so ur not exactly dealing with someone with good luck from the gambling gods here... so any insurance I can take I MUST DO SO.. as I lose 90% of my games on phantom events by a half pt or pt...
read this again... and tell me u don't think someone with luck like this should take every pt he can get?
most ppl I agree it's crazy to go from +5 -105 to +6 -120
banking on a one pt difference helping u knowing u have to risk an extra 15 cents
but normal people don't lose ONE of the games mentioned above, let alone ALL OF THEM like me
no no no .. what I was saying is if I take wiscy +5 -105 instead of +6 -120 that Kentucky could beat me by that half pt-pt range again... just like my florida +16.5 bet when I could have gotten +17 and pushed instead of lost..
that's what I was saying... basically saying when u look at my losses so many are sick and by a pt or half pt so any insurance I can get is huge
Yeah, I KNOW what you are saying. But why stop at 6, or 7, or 8? They could lose by 8 you know, right? How is 8 any less/more likely than 5 or 6, that's only one bucket more. Just keep buying it up (I know you probably can't since you only bet at the non-Mickey Mouse casinos). You said you only pay juice when you lose. So if that is true, and you are confident in UW +5, why wouldn't you just buy it up as high as the book will let you? Why wouldn't you do this on every single wager you ever make?
Why even lay points with a favorite?? Just play the ML, no juice if you win, right?
Did you grow up under some power lines? Sleep next to a microwave in college?
Also, nice sample size on the six games, I think 6 is a pretty large sample size. You make more excuses for $hit than my teenagers.
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Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:
no no no .. what I was saying is if I take wiscy +5 -105 instead of +6 -120 that Kentucky could beat me by that half pt-pt range again... just like my florida +16.5 bet when I could have gotten +17 and pushed instead of lost..
that's what I was saying... basically saying when u look at my losses so many are sick and by a pt or half pt so any insurance I can get is huge
Yeah, I KNOW what you are saying. But why stop at 6, or 7, or 8? They could lose by 8 you know, right? How is 8 any less/more likely than 5 or 6, that's only one bucket more. Just keep buying it up (I know you probably can't since you only bet at the non-Mickey Mouse casinos). You said you only pay juice when you lose. So if that is true, and you are confident in UW +5, why wouldn't you just buy it up as high as the book will let you? Why wouldn't you do this on every single wager you ever make?
Why even lay points with a favorite?? Just play the ML, no juice if you win, right?
Did you grow up under some power lines? Sleep next to a microwave in college?
Also, nice sample size on the six games, I think 6 is a pretty large sample size. You make more excuses for $hit than my teenagers.
bk to be safe.. u see the sick shitt that happens to cost me losses.. its hard to make up... if they cover then it makes no difference and it gets me more insurance
add the purdue -5.5 loss in big ten tourney to psu if I bought it down I push... missed ft cost me
shockers -6 vs Indiana same crap.. missed ft
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bk to be safe.. u see the sick shitt that happens to cost me losses.. its hard to make up... if they cover then it makes no difference and it gets me more insurance
add the purdue -5.5 loss in big ten tourney to psu if I bought it down I push... missed ft cost me
Maybe Nick graduated from Princeton and his math skills are so advanced that he figured out what normally would be a money losing proposition like buying points in basketball is actually a genius play that will lead to the rise of the EMPIRE.
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Maybe Nick graduated from Princeton and his math skills are so advanced that he figured out what normally would be a money losing proposition like buying points in basketball is actually a genius play that will lead to the rise of the EMPIRE.
all I know is if I took wiscy +5 instead of buying it to +6 and they lost by 5 or 6 I couldn't live with myself
so yea it's nuts per say to pay the extra $600 in juice but this is my last bomb play if I lose before my grind so I want every bet of insurance I can get. if they lose by 7 or more yea I'm out an extra $600 than I should be but I need that extra pt for insurance... even tho I feel wiscy wins the game outright
last sunday similar scenario... Michigan state is -2.5 at the book with the -105 juice specials and -2 -110 at another book
u clowns would want me to take the -2.5 -105 which is absurd... I took the -2 -110 and although it didn't matter it was the type of game where it easily could have ended a Michigan state 2 pt victory.
when sparty was up one shooting two free throws late, would u have liked to have -2.5 and not -2?
give me a break don't tell the pro how to run things like I told u all before
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all I know is if I took wiscy +5 instead of buying it to +6 and they lost by 5 or 6 I couldn't live with myself
so yea it's nuts per say to pay the extra $600 in juice but this is my last bomb play if I lose before my grind so I want every bet of insurance I can get. if they lose by 7 or more yea I'm out an extra $600 than I should be but I need that extra pt for insurance... even tho I feel wiscy wins the game outright
last sunday similar scenario... Michigan state is -2.5 at the book with the -105 juice specials and -2 -110 at another book
u clowns would want me to take the -2.5 -105 which is absurd... I took the -2 -110 and although it didn't matter it was the type of game where it easily could have ended a Michigan state 2 pt victory.
when sparty was up one shooting two free throws late, would u have liked to have -2.5 and not -2?
give me a break don't tell the pro how to run things like I told u all before
Maybe Nick graduated from Princeton and his math skills are so advanced that he figured out what normally would be a money losing proposition like buying points in basketball is actually a genius play that will lead to the rise of the EMPIRE.
I AM GURANTEEING A WISCY COVER. FIRST TIME IN MY CAREER ISSUING A GURANTEE
WTF- WRONG TEAM FAVORED
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Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:
Maybe Nick graduated from Princeton and his math skills are so advanced that he figured out what normally would be a money losing proposition like buying points in basketball is actually a genius play that will lead to the rise of the EMPIRE.
I AM GURANTEEING A WISCY COVER. FIRST TIME IN MY CAREER ISSUING A GURANTEE
what were the chances byu would not cover -3 let alone win vs ole miss in the play in game up SEVENTEEN at half?
ole miss is a great squad I forgot... they played really well the next round vs xaxier
Lol. Most of what you claim as your other "bad beats" the side you took was down huge at half (and weren't covering 90% of the game), made incredible comebacks and then a missed free throw or something at the end made you feel it was "bad". Yet when your team is up big at half you can't fathom how they can blow a lead, even though in byu's case they play as fast a pace as anybody which leads to big runs by each team.
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Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:
oh I left one out among others...
what were the chances byu would not cover -3 let alone win vs ole miss in the play in game up SEVENTEEN at half?
ole miss is a great squad I forgot... they played really well the next round vs xaxier
Lol. Most of what you claim as your other "bad beats" the side you took was down huge at half (and weren't covering 90% of the game), made incredible comebacks and then a missed free throw or something at the end made you feel it was "bad". Yet when your team is up big at half you can't fathom how they can blow a lead, even though in byu's case they play as fast a pace as anybody which leads to big runs by each team.
bk to be safe.. u see the sick shitt that happens to cost me losses.. its hard to make up... if they cover then it makes no difference and it gets me more insurance
add the purdue -5.5 loss in big ten tourney to psu if I bought it down I push... missed ft cost me
shockers -6 vs Indiana same crap.. missed ft
If you knew your $$$ was going to come down to a college kid making/missing a foul shot, probably wouldn't be wagering on it to begin with. You are micro-analyzing the end of the game and trying to apply that small fraction of the game to your end result.
If you think 5 isn't enough with Wisky because it "could" come down to FT's, DON'T F&*CKING BET THE GAME. If you are confident UW stays within the number, and maybe wins outright, JUST BET THE LINE AS IS.
Such a novice concept, hard to believe you don't grasp it.
"Luck" is short term, close wins/losses even out over time. In the long run, winners win, and losers lose.
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Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:
bk to be safe.. u see the sick shitt that happens to cost me losses.. its hard to make up... if they cover then it makes no difference and it gets me more insurance
add the purdue -5.5 loss in big ten tourney to psu if I bought it down I push... missed ft cost me
shockers -6 vs Indiana same crap.. missed ft
If you knew your $$$ was going to come down to a college kid making/missing a foul shot, probably wouldn't be wagering on it to begin with. You are micro-analyzing the end of the game and trying to apply that small fraction of the game to your end result.
If you think 5 isn't enough with Wisky because it "could" come down to FT's, DON'T F&*CKING BET THE GAME. If you are confident UW stays within the number, and maybe wins outright, JUST BET THE LINE AS IS.
Such a novice concept, hard to believe you don't grasp it.
"Luck" is short term, close wins/losses even out over time. In the long run, winners win, and losers lose.
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