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    The Elusive 10+ Year Back-Tested System of Systems...

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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2009 - 1:06 PM ET #1

    Has ANYONE or ANY SYSTEMS BACKTRACKED to show consistant positive or small negative results for 10+ years straight as spot-plays or only a 2-3 game chase. I know of MANY systmes that banked 2 years even 3 years in row but if you looked back 10 years they end up way under. They even bust at the most present/current year after doing 2-3 years big profits.

    The only good systems to me are spot plays that are around 60+%/year and NO TWEAKING some years or streaks (in which MANY cappers like to do and don't realize they are scewing the research to their benefit of TOUT success ... not for the benefit of a TRUE WINNING SYSTEM) unless it calls for it to be CONSISTANTLY done YEAR AFTER YEAR.

    That would be the BOMB SYSTEM! I have yet seen any. I think I saw:

    hrabi_pero's 4/4 system. 

    So far that looks to be the only proven for a length of time.
    It shows 9 years BackTracked with some of the current year. One year shows got crushed and another minus a few units but the others were positive. The best thing it's SPOT PLAYS! I can wager BIG on the games.

    Personally, I would prefer to wager $500-1000 a game for a 60% SPOT System  vs. $100-200 on the 1st game of chasers. More profit on SPOT PLAY wagered heavily then CHASING even though chasing can have a 95% win ratio.

    Thanks for any info... but so far hrabi_pero's 4/4 is the only one that I see backtracked almost 10 years with great results.

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    Has ANYONE or ANY SYSTEMS BACKTRACKED to show consistant positive or small negative results for 10+ years straight as spot-plays or only a 2-3 game chase. I know of MANY systmes that banked 2 years even 3 years in row but if you looked back 10 years they end up way under. They even bust at the most present/current year after doing 2-3 years big profits.

    The only good systems to me are spot plays that are around 60+%/year and NO TWEAKING some years or streaks (in which MANY cappers like to do and don't realize they are scewing the research to their benefit of TOUT success ... not for the benefit of a TRUE WINNING SYSTEM) unless it calls for it to be CONSISTANTLY done YEAR AFTER YEAR.

    That would be the BOMB SYSTEM! I have yet seen any. I think I saw:

    hrabi_pero's 4/4 system. 

    So far that looks to be the only proven for a length of time.
    It shows 9 years BackTracked with some of the current year. One year shows got crushed and another minus a few units but the others were positive. The best thing it's SPOT PLAYS! I can wager BIG on the games.

    Personally, I would prefer to wager $500-1000 a game for a 60% SPOT System  vs. $100-200 on the 1st game of chasers. More profit on SPOT PLAY wagered heavily then CHASING even though chasing can have a 95% win ratio.

    Thanks for any info... but so far hrabi_pero's 4/4 is the only one that I see backtracked almost 10 years with great results.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2009 - 8:31 PM ET #2

    what about the Tomspeople's system ... i never hit more parlays in my life .... I dont know about the last ten yrs , but i can tell you it works right now ... I think it wont take my long to realize a system is no longer working ,,, i will move on to something else .. i am betting with confidence and i know i can win ...Tomspeople is the man .....
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    what about the Tomspeople's system ... i never hit more parlays in my life .... I dont know about the last ten yrs , but i can tell you it works right now ... I think it wont take my long to realize a system is no longer working ,,, i will move on to something else .. i am betting with confidence and i know i can win ...Tomspeople is the man .....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2009 - 8:46 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by kingofny:

    what about the Tomspeople's system ... i never hit more parlays in my life .... I dont know about the last ten yrs , but i can tell you it works right now ... I think it wont take my long to realize a system is no longer working ,,, i will move on to something else .. i am betting with confidence and i know i can win ...Tomspeople is the man .....

    True.. I see Tom's system.. if pero doesn't back track it.. i will eventually. It's good so far. But I like Pero's proven for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofny:

    what about the Tomspeople's system ... i never hit more parlays in my life .... I dont know about the last ten yrs , but i can tell you it works right now ... I think it wont take my long to realize a system is no longer working ,,, i will move on to something else .. i am betting with confidence and i know i can win ...Tomspeople is the man .....

    True.. I see Tom's system.. if pero doesn't back track it.. i will eventually. It's good so far. But I like Pero's proven for years.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2009 - 10:45 PM ET #4

    Where can I find the 4/4 system you are talking about King?  Thanks.
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    Where can I find the 4/4 system you are talking about King?  Thanks.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2009 - 7:53 AM ET #5

    its called HFOUDL  its in this section ...the system has been very good to say the least . dont get me wrong the other systems on here are winning as well .. what i have done is take a game or two from each system i like ..and try to get a 2 team or 3 team parlay with a straight bet in there too ... i am 19 for 39 and still made a nice profit ... i am ready to cash out soon and start again ..but for the most part the systems are working ...I also dont do 6 game chase crap ... if the system cant produce a win in 2 to 3 games  then its just a guess ,,,, but if you use multiple systems then you dont run the risk of getting hammered with 4 to 5 losses ...
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    its called HFOUDL  its in this section ...the system has been very good to say the least . dont get me wrong the other systems on here are winning as well .. what i have done is take a game or two from each system i like ..and try to get a 2 team or 3 team parlay with a straight bet in there too ... i am 19 for 39 and still made a nice profit ... i am ready to cash out soon and start again ..but for the most part the systems are working ...I also dont do 6 game chase crap ... if the system cant produce a win in 2 to 3 games  then its just a guess ,,,, but if you use multiple systems then you dont run the risk of getting hammered with 4 to 5 losses ...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2009 - 9:00 AM ET #6

    streaks system... little different to the one floating around

    formula: Hstreak-Astreak>3 and HL10>4
    Hstreak... home team streak
    Astreak... away team streak
    HL10... home team wins in their last 10 games
    W5=5, W1=1, L5=-5, L1=-1
    ex. W3-L2=3-(-2)=5

    results from may 1st each year

    year/final profit/w-l/wperc/max units/min units

    2000. -11,58u    246-190    56,42%   15,48u : -20,95u 
    2001.  12,91u    238-170    58,33%   21,64u : -15,40u
    2002.    6,69u    253-176    58,97%   16,80u :  -4,00u
    2003.  11,57u    253-181    58,29%   28,83u :  -6,13u
    2004.  47,50u    287-175    62,12%   55,82u :  -5,89u
    2005.   7,84u    249-172     59,14%   33,03u :  -4,05u
    2006. 24,87u    275-185      59,78%   42,30u : -8,92u
    2007. -11,42u   231-182      55,93%    7,42u : -17,40u
    2008.  23,34u   263-181      59,23%   25,53u : -6,95u
    2009.  17,65u     64-35       64,65%    24,07u : -3,91u

    combining it  with simple 4/4 we get:

    2000.   2,82u   336-243   58,03%  15,45u :  -8,73u
    2001. 20,73u   325-227   58,88%  30,05u : -12,74u
    2002.  -7,59u   317-228   58,17%  17,74u : -20,27u
    2003.   2,74u   316-226   58,30%  13,31u : -22,46u
    2004. 33,16u   343-218   61,14%   52,97u :  -7,90u
    2005. -5,33u    297-216   57,89%  35,55u :  -8,36u
    2006. 30,03u   344-227   60,25%   50,71u : -4,18u
    2007. 12,41u   302-216   58,30%   18,32u : -8,29u
    2008. 20,40u   318-221   59,00%   20,95u : -5,95u
    2009. 23,53u     78-41     65,55%   29,96u : -4,31u

    let's name this frankensystem and let's make some 
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    streaks system... little different to the one floating around

    formula: Hstreak-Astreak>3 and HL10>4
    Hstreak... home team streak
    Astreak... away team streak
    HL10... home team wins in their last 10 games
    W5=5, W1=1, L5=-5, L1=-1
    ex. W3-L2=3-(-2)=5

    results from may 1st each year

    year/final profit/w-l/wperc/max units/min units

    2000. -11,58u    246-190    56,42%   15,48u : -20,95u 
    2001.  12,91u    238-170    58,33%   21,64u : -15,40u
    2002.    6,69u    253-176    58,97%   16,80u :  -4,00u
    2003.  11,57u    253-181    58,29%   28,83u :  -6,13u
    2004.  47,50u    287-175    62,12%   55,82u :  -5,89u
    2005.   7,84u    249-172     59,14%   33,03u :  -4,05u
    2006. 24,87u    275-185      59,78%   42,30u : -8,92u
    2007. -11,42u   231-182      55,93%    7,42u : -17,40u
    2008.  23,34u   263-181      59,23%   25,53u : -6,95u
    2009.  17,65u     64-35       64,65%    24,07u : -3,91u

    combining it  with simple 4/4 we get:

    2000.   2,82u   336-243   58,03%  15,45u :  -8,73u
    2001. 20,73u   325-227   58,88%  30,05u : -12,74u
    2002.  -7,59u   317-228   58,17%  17,74u : -20,27u
    2003.   2,74u   316-226   58,30%  13,31u : -22,46u
    2004. 33,16u   343-218   61,14%   52,97u :  -7,90u
    2005. -5,33u    297-216   57,89%  35,55u :  -8,36u
    2006. 30,03u   344-227   60,25%   50,71u : -4,18u
    2007. 12,41u   302-216   58,30%   18,32u : -8,29u
    2008. 20,40u   318-221   59,00%   20,95u : -5,95u
    2009. 23,53u     78-41     65,55%   29,96u : -4,31u

    let's name this frankensystem and let's make some 
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2009 - 3:21 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by cdabbs:

    Where can I find the 4/4 system you are talking about King?  Thanks.

    It's listed on the friggin this forum.. .it's ALWAYS on front page. Come on now. Get a clue. If you can't think for yourself just a little bit then you shouldn't be on covers at all.
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    Where can I find the 4/4 system you are talking about King?  Thanks.

    It's listed on the friggin this forum.. .it's ALWAYS on front page. Come on now. Get a clue. If you can't think for yourself just a little bit then you shouldn't be on covers at all.
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