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    How many B and C bets in a season?

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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 10:57 AM ET #1

    Does anyone have the numbers on how many B and C bets come up in a complete season for all JM's system plays for NHL, NBA, MLB and NFL? Just an approx. Number?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Does anyone have the numbers on how many B and C bets come up in a complete season for all JM's system plays for NHL, NBA, MLB and NFL? Just an approx. Number?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 12:54 PM ET #2

    I don't bet it but I follow it occasionally

    MLB there has been at least 2 or 3 c bets.... A LOT of B bets.. he claims A bets win 90+% of the time but that is false...

    if you are looking at buying it save your money
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    I don't bet it but I follow it occasionally

    MLB there has been at least 2 or 3 c bets.... A LOT of B bets.. he claims A bets win 90+% of the time but that is false...

    if you are looking at buying it save your money
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 1:04 PM ET #3

    I purchased his MLB system probably almost 2 years ago, it worked for a while and BAM lost $2400 on a C bet, I know the A bets do not come in at 90%+ but I think by just playing B for (e.x. $100) and C for (e.x. $250) and lets say there are at least 40-50 B bets that come up and you loose 1 C for the season you would be up between 36-46 units, am I correct?
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    I purchased his MLB system probably almost 2 years ago, it worked for a while and BAM lost $2400 on a C bet, I know the A bets do not come in at 90%+ but I think by just playing B for (e.x. $100) and C for (e.x. $250) and lets say there are at least 40-50 B bets that come up and you loose 1 C for the season you would be up between 36-46 units, am I correct?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 5:43 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by jerm73:

    I purchased his MLB system probably almost 2 years ago, it worked for a while and BAM lost $2400 on a C bet, I know the A bets do not come in at 90%+ but I think by just playing B for (e.x. $100) and C for (e.x. $250) and lets say there are at least 40-50 B bets that come up and you loose 1 C for the season you would be up between 36-46 units, am I correct?
    I just got an email from JM, it says mlb is 48-0 for RPI passing games( although Sept is supposed to be unofficial plays). I stopped playing mlb in august. I'm not sure if there would be that many B bets(40-50) official ones anyway. I don't have unofficial numbers but i think there has been ?3 losses so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerm73:

    I purchased his MLB system probably almost 2 years ago, it worked for a while and BAM lost $2400 on a C bet, I know the A bets do not come in at 90%+ but I think by just playing B for (e.x. $100) and C for (e.x. $250) and lets say there are at least 40-50 B bets that come up and you loose 1 C for the season you would be up between 36-46 units, am I correct?
    I just got an email from JM, it says mlb is 48-0 for RPI passing games( although Sept is supposed to be unofficial plays). I stopped playing mlb in august. I'm not sure if there would be that many B bets(40-50) official ones anyway. I don't have unofficial numbers but i think there has been ?3 losses so far.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 6:29 PM ET #5

    Jerm, here are NBA numbers from last few seasons:
     
    2004-05:  [A] 52-56, [B] 25-32, [C] 17-15 (1)
    2005-06:  [A] 47-58, [B] 33-27, [C] 16-10 (2)
    2006-07:  [A] 53-44, [B] 27-18 (1), [C] 6-12 (1)
    2007-08:  [A] 58-42 (1), [B] 26-18, [C] 9-9
     
    As you can see, there are WAY more A and B wins than C. And more A wins than B.
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    Jerm, here are NBA numbers from last few seasons:
     
    2004-05:  [A] 52-56, [B] 25-32, [C] 17-15 (1)
    2005-06:  [A] 47-58, [B] 33-27, [C] 16-10 (2)
    2006-07:  [A] 53-44, [B] 27-18 (1), [C] 6-12 (1)
    2007-08:  [A] 58-42 (1), [B] 26-18, [C] 9-9
     
    As you can see, there are WAY more A and B wins than C. And more A wins than B.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 6:42 PM ET #6

    Clarification on above post. Those are numbers without buying the extra 3 points. It does not drastically change the point that there are far more A and B wagers made than C.
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    Clarification on above post. Those are numbers without buying the extra 3 points. It does not drastically change the point that there are far more A and B wagers made than C.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 6:49 PM ET #7

    Thank you nole for the insight, and I agree with the A B sequence rather than the B C. I think this could be used for all 4 of the systems with success.
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    Thank you nole for the insight, and I agree with the A B sequence rather than the B C. I think this could be used for all 4 of the systems with success.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 6:51 PM ET #8

    And here is NHL info by KongKiller:
     
    "By only playing the A + B games and using a modified labouchere money management system one can easily net over 100 units a year in the NHL. I have gone back 4 seasons now to prove it. For an example by using the 08-09 season and playing every series(good or bad away team included), I found 104 A winners and 45 B winners out of 166 total series. That means you have a 90% chance of hitting an A or B game. Over the past 4 seasons that number is 88% to 91%."
     
    So, like with NBA, NHL hits on A and B WAY more than C. Kong's version has you skipping C all together. You miss out on some C wins, but also C losses.
    And you don't double-up on the B bet. You make up any A and or B losses on future series.
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    And here is NHL info by KongKiller:
     
    "By only playing the A + B games and using a modified labouchere money management system one can easily net over 100 units a year in the NHL. I have gone back 4 seasons now to prove it. For an example by using the 08-09 season and playing every series(good or bad away team included), I found 104 A winners and 45 B winners out of 166 total series. That means you have a 90% chance of hitting an A or B game. Over the past 4 seasons that number is 88% to 91%."
     
    So, like with NBA, NHL hits on A and B WAY more than C. Kong's version has you skipping C all together. You miss out on some C wins, but also C losses.
    And you don't double-up on the B bet. You make up any A and or B losses on future series.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 6:57 PM ET #9

    Excellent I will look into his thread. 100 units is massive.
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    Excellent I will look into his thread. 100 units is massive.
     
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    ONe more on NFL, also from Kong on his NFL thread:
    2005-04 won [A] Arizona
    2005-05 won [A] Buffalo
    2005-07 won [A] San Francisco
    2005-07 won [A] Saint Louis
    2005-07 won [A] Miami
    2005-07 won [A] Houston
    2005-08 won [A] Cleveland
    2005-10 won [b] Tennessee
    2005-10 won [A] Arizona
    2005-11 won [b] Philadelphia
    2005-11 won [A] Miami
    2005-12 won [A] Washington
    2005-13 won [b] New York Jets
    2005-13 won [A] Green Bay
    2005-13 won [A] Detroit
    2005-14 won [A] San Francisco
    2005-16 won [b] Saint Louis
    2006-04 won [A] Houston
    2006-05 won [A] Pittsburgh
    2006-05 won [b] Oakland
    2006-05 won [A] Arizona
    2006-06 won [b] Detroit
    2006-08 won [A] Washington
    2006-08 won [b] Miami
    2006-08 won [A] Buffalo
    2006-09 won [A] Philadelphia
    2006-09 won [A] Philadelphia
    2006-10 won [A] Tampa Bay
    2006-10 won [A] Cincinnati
    2006-10 won [A] Arizona
    2006-11 won [b] Minnesota
    2006-12 won [A] New York Giants
    2006-12 won [A] Detroit
    2006-12 won [b] Atlanta
    2006-13 won [A] Tampa Bay
    2006-13 won [A] Green Bay
    2006-14 won [b] Denver
    2006-15 won [A] Kansas City
    2006-15 won [b] Carolina
    2007-05 won [b] Saint Louis
    2007-05 won [b] New Orleans
    2007-06 won [A] Denver
    2007-09 won [C] New York Jets
    2007-09 won [A] Houston
    2007-10 won [A] Saint Louis
    2007-11 won [C] San Francisco
    2007-11 won [A] Oakland
    2007-12 won [A] Tennessee
    2007-12 won [C] Carolina
    2007-12 won [C] Baltimore
    2007-13 won [b] Detroit
    2007-15 won [b] Kansas City
    2007-15 won [C] Atlanta
    2007-16 won [A] Baltimore
    2008-05 won [b] Saint Louis
    2008-05 won [b] Detroit
    2008-06 won [A] Green Bay
    2008-09 won [C] San Francisco
    2008-09 won [A] Denver
    2008-09 won [A] Cincinnati
    2008-10 won [A] Oakland
    2008-11 won [b] Buffalo
    2008-12 won [b] Saint Louis
    2008-14 won [A] Washington
    2008-14 won [b] Jacksonville
    2008-14 won [A] Cincinnati
    2008-15 won [A] Oakland
    2008-15 won [b] Green Bay
     
    Only one C wager last year!
     
    Good luck bro, hope that all helps.
     
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    ONe more on NFL, also from Kong on his NFL thread:
    2005-04 won [A] Arizona
    2005-05 won [A] Buffalo
    2005-07 won [A] San Francisco
    2005-07 won [A] Saint Louis
    2005-07 won [A] Miami
    2005-07 won [A] Houston
    2005-08 won [A] Cleveland
    2005-10 won [b] Tennessee
    2005-10 won [A] Arizona
    2005-11 won [b] Philadelphia
    2005-11 won [A] Miami
    2005-12 won [A] Washington
    2005-13 won [b] New York Jets
    2005-13 won [A] Green Bay
    2005-13 won [A] Detroit
    2005-14 won [A] San Francisco
    2005-16 won [b] Saint Louis
    2006-04 won [A] Houston
    2006-05 won [A] Pittsburgh
    2006-05 won [b] Oakland
    2006-05 won [A] Arizona
    2006-06 won [b] Detroit
    2006-08 won [A] Washington
    2006-08 won [b] Miami
    2006-08 won [A] Buffalo
    2006-09 won [A] Philadelphia
    2006-09 won [A] Philadelphia
    2006-10 won [A] Tampa Bay
    2006-10 won [A] Cincinnati
    2006-10 won [A] Arizona
    2006-11 won [b] Minnesota
    2006-12 won [A] New York Giants
    2006-12 won [A] Detroit
    2006-12 won [b] Atlanta
    2006-13 won [A] Tampa Bay
    2006-13 won [A] Green Bay
    2006-14 won [b] Denver
    2006-15 won [A] Kansas City
    2006-15 won [b] Carolina
    2007-05 won [b] Saint Louis
    2007-05 won [b] New Orleans
    2007-06 won [A] Denver
    2007-09 won [C] New York Jets
    2007-09 won [A] Houston
    2007-10 won [A] Saint Louis
    2007-11 won [C] San Francisco
    2007-11 won [A] Oakland
    2007-12 won [A] Tennessee
    2007-12 won [C] Carolina
    2007-12 won [C] Baltimore
    2007-13 won [b] Detroit
    2007-15 won [b] Kansas City
    2007-15 won [C] Atlanta
    2007-16 won [A] Baltimore
    2008-05 won [b] Saint Louis
    2008-05 won [b] Detroit
    2008-06 won [A] Green Bay
    2008-09 won [C] San Francisco
    2008-09 won [A] Denver
    2008-09 won [A] Cincinnati
    2008-10 won [A] Oakland
    2008-11 won [b] Buffalo
    2008-12 won [b] Saint Louis
    2008-14 won [A] Washington
    2008-14 won [b] Jacksonville
    2008-14 won [A] Cincinnati
    2008-15 won [A] Oakland
    2008-15 won [b] Green Bay
     
    Only one C wager last year!
     
    Good luck bro, hope that all helps.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 9:49 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Jerm, here are NBA numbers from last few seasons:
     
    2004-05:  [A] 52-56, [B] 25-32, [C] 17-15 (1)
    2005-06:  [A] 47-58, [B] 33-27, [C] 16-10 (2)
    2006-07:  [A] 53-44, [B] 27-18 (1), [C] 6-12 (1)
    2007-08:  [A] 58-42 (1), [B] 26-18, [C] 9-9
     
    As you can see, there are WAY more A and B wins than C. And more A wins than B.
    Could you clarify. How do you read the numbers. What are the dashes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Jerm, here are NBA numbers from last few seasons:
     
    2004-05:  [A] 52-56, [B] 25-32, [C] 17-15 (1)
    2005-06:  [A] 47-58, [B] 33-27, [C] 16-10 (2)
    2006-07:  [A] 53-44, [B] 27-18 (1), [C] 6-12 (1)
    2007-08:  [A] 58-42 (1), [B] 26-18, [C] 9-9
     
    As you can see, there are WAY more A and B wins than C. And more A wins than B.
    Could you clarify. How do you read the numbers. What are the dashes?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 9:31 AM ET #12

    It's wins and losses. 2004-05 for example: A Wins 52 to 56 losses. B wins 25 to 32 losses. C wins were 17 to 15 losses.
    Any number in ( ) means that the game was close, so it could be a loss, win, or push depending on what your point spread was.
    Keep in mind the system calls for you to buy 3 points, but the stats above were if you did not buy the 3 points and just took the normal point spread.
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    It's wins and losses. 2004-05 for example: A Wins 52 to 56 losses. B wins 25 to 32 losses. C wins were 17 to 15 losses.
    Any number in ( ) means that the game was close, so it could be a loss, win, or push depending on what your point spread was.
    Keep in mind the system calls for you to buy 3 points, but the stats above were if you did not buy the 3 points and just took the normal point spread.
     
     
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    Another thing to consider is also chasing the home team w/out buying any points.  I haven't done any back testing yet but WNBA went 11-0 this way and 10-1 JM's way.
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    Another thing to consider is also chasing the home team w/out buying any points.  I haven't done any back testing yet but WNBA went 11-0 this way and 10-1 JM's way.
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