i think you missed the point.
i wasn't asking for an unbeatable craps or black jack strategy. i was looking for someone to share some wisdom on a way to increase my chances of winning.
There are several ways of playing probabilities and hedging your bets in craps that can minimize losses and protect from huge P&L swings.
I'd like to knoe if anyone has a personal strategy that they are willing to share.
Obviously, I know that there are no guaranteed winning strategies. "Vegas wasn't built on..."
Forget black jack - play games where you have a choice to go with or against - craps or baccarat. That being said:
I love craps - dice is a flow - the people who roll are simply a vehicle in the flow - so don't get stuck on the vehicle (meaning the guy had a great roll he will do it again - no he won't) - the casino is simply a bookmaker - your not betting against them or on them - if the flow is positive you go with the shooter and take max odds and do 2 come bets max and take max odds. Only place the 6 and 8 - casino advantage is minimal. Never place 5 or 9 - for 5 dollar bet they should pay you 7.50 (3/2) - they don't - they pay you 7. On 4 and 10 - they should pay you 2 to 1 - for a 5 dollar bet - they pay 9 - a dollar goes in their pocket - avoid placing 4, 5, 9 and 10.
The key is figuring out the flow: Hints that may help
1. If there is a great roll - someone hits 5 points - the encore usually sucks - thus go against after a good roll.
2. They stay negative for a while - so ride that pony and go negative.
3. If the dice have been cold and someone hits a point - don't jump on it yet - wait for the next person - they usually will hit a couple of points - then the next guy - then they will get cold again - so you go with the flow.
4. The best scenarios - the dice are hot or cold - when they are choppy - it's hard to get a good read - that's when you walk away or are extremely conservative.
5. When the table is cold - i lay vice risking money on the Don't pass - basically let's say the point is a five. You would lay in increments of 3 to win increments of 2. And for every 20 you win you have to pay 1 dollar commision. For example, the point is a 5 - you can lay 150 to win 100 plus you give them 5 dollars as commision - which you don't get back either way.
6. don't get hung up on putting money in the field or hard ways - yes they are fun but they will eat you up. It's a balancing act regarding your bank roll - don't risk all of it on one roll.
7. If you really wanna double your money - fold it up and stick it in your pocket:)
lol.....or if you really wanna double your money stick it in front of a mirror.
I'm a patterns guy whether it's dice or baseball, football, basketball, i follow patterns - recognizing everything you have stated - in my own little world what i mentioned above are the patterns i noticed - key word i . At the end of the day it's about choices and consequences.
I can relate snappa. I try to look at the people as simply a pawn in the game - they aren't a bad or good pawn simply somone who is throwing the dice.....that helps me....not to get stuck on a person or to believe that somone/table will always be hot.....or cold......it goes back to trying to figure out the flow...the tidbits above help me gauge that....eventhough as you stated....each roll is independent of the other.......it's so damn fun if you are on a good run.
This is a spot-on explanation of the Law of Independent Trials. From my observations living in Nevada, 90% of gamblers don't understand/believe it. They are wrong wrong wrong.
To expand just a bit, this disbelief in the Law of Independent Trials is in some ways a manifestation of anthropomorphism, in other words, attributing human attributes to non-human things. "The cards hate me." "This machine doesn't like me." "The dice are my friends." The very idea of a "hot dealer," or a "hot casino" is ludicrous. Assuming that the payouts are the same, your chance of winning is the same no matter where you play. Randomness guarantees that you will win more at some casinos and lose more at others. But your odds of winning at a casino where you usually lose are the same as the odds of winning at a casino where you usually win.
Of course, over time, the overwhelming majority of casino gamblers will lose. Doesn't stop me, but at least I go into a casino expecting to lose. This makes the winning days even more rewarding.
As someone else said. With craps do a pass/don't pass with max odds and then a couple of come/don't come with max odds.
With BJ, just know the basic strategy cold. If you have a little time study the KO count. You can get the book online.
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thanks for the advice guys.
i ended up doing some more independant research and came up with a pretty decent craps "dark side" system that ended up returning 180% in profits.
i must say, i have found that the key to leaving Vegas a winner is:
1. a solid money management system. it's not what you bet, but HOW you bet. and anything having to do with doubling your money after a loss is a sure fire way to lose your bankroll in a hurry.
2. the main reason why most people leave Vegas a winner......
they have to make their flight.
1. a solid money management system. it's not what you bet, but HOW you bet. and anything having to do with doubling your money after a loss is a sure fire way to lose your bankroll in a hurry.
thanks for the advice guys.
i ended up doing some more independant research and came up with a pretty decent craps "dark side" system that ended up returning 180% in profits.
i must say, i have found that the key to leaving Vegas a winner is:
1. a solid money management system. it's not what you bet, but HOW you bet. and anything having to do with doubling your money after a loss is a sure fire way to lose your bankroll in a hurry.
2. the main reason why most people leave Vegas a winner......
they have to make their flight.
You mind sharing your craps "dark side" system and money mangemnet system for Craps?
it's pretty complex and uses a combination of hedging strategies to neutralize the volatility to my bank roll in the case of a "hot roller".
like i said, the key is money management. basically, i try to maximize gains during a winning streak and mitigate losses during a losing streak.
the progression is very simple:
betting unit 1 = x
after first bet wins, increase by x*1.5
if second bet wins, increase by x*2
if you lose then go back one step until you get to one betting unit and just keep betting one unit until you win.
after three wins in a row, start over.
the rest of the system is hedging
what was the book?
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