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    Can Touts really do better than 55%? LONG TERM

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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2010 - 3:16 PM ET #1

    Can these guys really do better than 55%..LONG TERM!

    I mean over a years time can any Tout hit 55%, I have seen thes guys hit 65% for awhile but than go on loosing streaks. Is it not better to just cap your own games, do these Touts really have special info.
    Is it not luck with a little info?
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    Can these guys really do better than 55%..LONG TERM!

    I mean over a years time can any Tout hit 55%, I have seen thes guys hit 65% for awhile but than go on loosing streaks. Is it not better to just cap your own games, do these Touts really have special info.
    Is it not luck with a little info?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2010 - 11:14 PM ET #3

    I guess if you stare into the computer for 10 hours a day and study stats and read teams local newspapers every single freakin day... I think it may be possible.  If that's all you do. But I don't think even the "touts" do that. So, no. Long run, I don't think it's possible.  Too many stats would have you spinning.  Just my opinion. I could be wrong. 
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    I guess if you stare into the computer for 10 hours a day and study stats and read teams local newspapers every single freakin day... I think it may be possible.  If that's all you do. But I don't think even the "touts" do that. So, no. Long run, I don't think it's possible.  Too many stats would have you spinning.  Just my opinion. I could be wrong. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2010 - 11:15 PM ET #4

    Over a years time.....I think they could hit 55%. Long term, 2 years, 3 years.  I don't think so. 
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    Over a years time.....I think they could hit 55%. Long term, 2 years, 3 years.  I don't think so. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 9:26 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Over a years time.....I think they could hit 55%. Long term, 2 years, 3 years.  I don't think so. 


      Agreed even the best ones settle down to 52% after awhile, it seems the randomness of the games, the tough calls etc. This is what brings the percentage down. So I guess the way to win is to lower your cost, or vig to below -110 in order to keep your winning break even percentage lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettor2win:

    Over a years time.....I think they could hit 55%. Long term, 2 years, 3 years.  I don't think so. 


      Agreed even the best ones settle down to 52% after awhile, it seems the randomness of the games, the tough calls etc. This is what brings the percentage down. So I guess the way to win is to lower your cost, or vig to below -110 in order to keep your winning break even percentage lower.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 2:06 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by eyeball:

    Can these guys really do better than 55%..LONG TERM!

    I mean over a years time can any Tout hit 55%, I have seen thes guys hit 65% for awhile but than go on loosing streaks. Is it not better to just cap your own games, do these Touts really have special info.
    Is it not luck with a little info?


    No. But to win you just need to hit 50 to 55% long term assuming that you play wide range of value dogs that pays better than even. Most cappers who win long term do this way. General public does not want long term winners with low %, they want to get rich overnight. That is why all the scamdicappers are in business with all their lies and fake unrealistic records.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeball:

    Can these guys really do better than 55%..LONG TERM!

    I mean over a years time can any Tout hit 55%, I have seen thes guys hit 65% for awhile but than go on loosing streaks. Is it not better to just cap your own games, do these Touts really have special info.
    Is it not luck with a little info?


    No. But to win you just need to hit 50 to 55% long term assuming that you play wide range of value dogs that pays better than even. Most cappers who win long term do this way. General public does not want long term winners with low %, they want to get rich overnight. That is why all the scamdicappers are in business with all their lies and fake unrealistic records.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 2:48 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by eyeball:

    Can these guys really do better than 55%..LONG TERM!

    I mean over a years time can any Tout hit 55%, I have seen thes guys hit 65% for awhile but than go on loosing streaks. Is it not better to just cap your own games, do these Touts really have special info.
    Is it not luck with a little info?
    Take a look at my record! I'm monitored! sincitysharps.com I use alot of systems that I have paid for. I will give you first 3 picks for free. If I lose I will not disappear, yes losing is a possibility, but with good money management I can keep you in the black! Iamascam.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeball:

    Can these guys really do better than 55%..LONG TERM!

    I mean over a years time can any Tout hit 55%, I have seen thes guys hit 65% for awhile but than go on loosing streaks. Is it not better to just cap your own games, do these Touts really have special info.
    Is it not luck with a little info?
    Take a look at my record! I'm monitored! sincitysharps.com I use alot of systems that I have paid for. I will give you first 3 picks for free. If I lose I will not disappear, yes losing is a possibility, but with good money management I can keep you in the black! Iamascam.com
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 3:01 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SinCitySharps:

    Take a look at my record! I'm monitored! sincitysharps.com I use alot of systems that I have paid for. I will give you first 3 picks for free. If I lose I will not disappear, yes losing is a possibility, but with good money management I can keep you in the black! Iamascam.com


    Lol your site is a joke. It looks like you put it together in 20 mins with the hope of covering your gambling losses with average joes money. 99% the services, including yours are scam and lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinCitySharps:

    Take a look at my record! I'm monitored! sincitysharps.com I use alot of systems that I have paid for. I will give you first 3 picks for free. If I lose I will not disappear, yes losing is a possibility, but with good money management I can keep you in the black! Iamascam.com


    Lol your site is a joke. It looks like you put it together in 20 mins with the hope of covering your gambling losses with average joes money. 99% the services, including yours are scam and lies.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2010 - 10:34 PM ET #9

    I refuse to listen and answer the questions that I was taught at age 14.  EVEN THE BEST ONLY HIT 56% FOR A WHILE. 
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    I refuse to listen and answer the questions that I was taught at age 14.  EVEN THE BEST ONLY HIT 56% FOR A WHILE. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2010 - 10:36 PM ET #10

    F this thread. I regeret even going to it.  COVERS members.... don't go to these kinds of threads NO MORE!!!! This is Mooseshit
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    F this thread. I regeret even going to it.  COVERS members.... don't go to these kinds of threads NO MORE!!!! This is Mooseshit
     
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    You have to find one that posts his play----after the game starts, within 10-15 minutes in real time. Keeps daily records that you can easily verify. Chances are when you find those companys or individuals doing the above documentation you'll have found a good capper. I've hit just right at the 60% the last 2 years, 62% in the Hilton for a 3rd place finish this year and a nice pay day. I don't post much because of the time and BS involved with forums. I could list the names of some legit guys I knwo in the business that hit the 55% with regularity. Loganxman hit the nail right on the head, the public wants to get rich overnight. They want action. They don't want 2-3 games a week like the h   
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    You have to find one that posts his play----after the game starts, within 10-15 minutes in real time. Keeps daily records that you can easily verify. Chances are when you find those companys or individuals doing the above documentation you'll have found a good capper. I've hit just right at the 60% the last 2 years, 62% in the Hilton for a 3rd place finish this year and a nice pay day. I don't post much because of the time and BS involved with forums. I could list the names of some legit guys I knwo in the business that hit the 55% with regularity. Loganxman hit the nail right on the head, the public wants to get rich overnight. They want action. They don't want 2-3 games a week like the h   
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jwsone] You have to find one that posts his play----after the game starts, within 10-15 minutes in real time. Keeps daily records that you can easily verify. Chances are when you find those companys or individuals doing the above documentation you'll have found a good capper. I've hit just right at the 60% the last 2 years, 62% in the Hilton for a 3rd place finish this year and a nice pay day. I don't post much because of the time and BS involved with forums. I could list the names of some legit guys I knwo in the business that hit the 55% with regularity. Loganxman hit the nail right on the head, the public wants to get rich overnight. They want action. They don't want 2-3 games a week like the guy that is serious about making money and doesn't even like sports. You can hit that number with linited plays. I had a customer say to me last year, I had a good year, is that you're best. They want perfection, That ain't happening.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jwsone] You have to find one that posts his play----after the game starts, within 10-15 minutes in real time. Keeps daily records that you can easily verify. Chances are when you find those companys or individuals doing the above documentation you'll have found a good capper. I've hit just right at the 60% the last 2 years, 62% in the Hilton for a 3rd place finish this year and a nice pay day. I don't post much because of the time and BS involved with forums. I could list the names of some legit guys I knwo in the business that hit the 55% with regularity. Loganxman hit the nail right on the head, the public wants to get rich overnight. They want action. They don't want 2-3 games a week like the guy that is serious about making money and doesn't even like sports. You can hit that number with linited plays. I had a customer say to me last year, I had a good year, is that you're best. They want perfection, That ain't happening.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2010 - 1:19 AM ET #13

    It depends what sport you're talking about. Although maybe not...across the board I disagree. I KNOW IT IS NOT possible to do 75-80% over the long run - thats crazy. But 60-65% with a good system and strong risk management absolutely is possible.

    Football and NBA, better than NHL and MLB. MLB has more variables, but still possible to get above 55% consistently...not too much higher though.

    Getting those results isn't easy, but it doesn't require staring at meaningless player stats all day either. It does take programming expertise and a knowledge of data systems.

    The guys that start up handicapping sites, for the most part aren't math and programming pros...they are sports fans and ex real estate agents (J/K). But seriously, think of the average individual in this field and wonder why the results are the way they are.

    All I'm saying is I know it's possible b/c I've seen it done.
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    It depends what sport you're talking about. Although maybe not...across the board I disagree. I KNOW IT IS NOT possible to do 75-80% over the long run - thats crazy. But 60-65% with a good system and strong risk management absolutely is possible.

    Football and NBA, better than NHL and MLB. MLB has more variables, but still possible to get above 55% consistently...not too much higher though.

    Getting those results isn't easy, but it doesn't require staring at meaningless player stats all day either. It does take programming expertise and a knowledge of data systems.

    The guys that start up handicapping sites, for the most part aren't math and programming pros...they are sports fans and ex real estate agents (J/K). But seriously, think of the average individual in this field and wonder why the results are the way they are.

    All I'm saying is I know it's possible b/c I've seen it done.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2010 - 1:53 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by loganxman:



    Lol your site is a joke. It looks like you put it together in 20 mins with the hope of covering your gambling losses with average joes money. 99% the services, including yours are scam and lies.
    You my friend are an idiot! What does my website have to do with anything? Are you trying to tell me that if I spent thousands of dollars on a website that would make money? Maybe I don't have flashy website, but I do produce winners! I don't gouge people out of their hard earned money, I play my games, and when I lose I don't run and hide! sincitysharps.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by loganxman:



    Lol your site is a joke. It looks like you put it together in 20 mins with the hope of covering your gambling losses with average joes money. 99% the services, including yours are scam and lies.
    You my friend are an idiot! What does my website have to do with anything? Are you trying to tell me that if I spent thousands of dollars on a website that would make money? Maybe I don't have flashy website, but I do produce winners! I don't gouge people out of their hard earned money, I play my games, and when I lose I don't run and hide! sincitysharps.com
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