MORE proof soccer games are fixed....

I am not saying that soccer is immune to it..but there are so many guys on the forums saying "GET OVER IT YOU LOST".or "GAMES AREN'T FIXED", etc...but yes they are and will continue to be. 

I live in Toronto, and we have a so called PROFESSIONAL SOCCER league most teams are located in Ontario where players make barely $1000-$10,000 a summer to play soccer.  Asian mobsters infiltrated a few teams, had guys in stands at the games where you could bet on games/in-live betting on certain sites.  And I am talking no more than 300- 400 people at games, sometimes less. 

So wherever there is a chance to make $$$ corruption will be around.

If you're betting on Canadian soccer where guys are paid peanuts then of course there's a possibility of match-fixing.  

For leagues where players are paid millions, it's hard to see how someone would fix a match for a few thousand dollars. 

Yes.  World cup games aren't just England, Germany or France. It's also all the qualifiers including San Marino, Malta, Lichtenstein, Faroe Islands.  Those guys could easily be bribed. And champions league include teams from Belarus and plenty of East European countries where the teams are paid peanuts.

Maybe this was the match.  There was a Champions League group match between Lyon and Dinamo Zagreb.  Lyon was trailing Ajax, but if Ajax lost to Real Madrid and Lyon beat DZ they'd be tied, but Lyon trailed on goal differential by 6 goals.

IIRC, Zagreb scored first, but Lyon tied it.  Then in the 2H, Lyon scored 6 goals. They'd never scored more than 3 in the other group qualifiers and since this was at DZ, it was suspicious. There was also a bizarre wink by one of the DZ defenders at a Lyon player after a Lyon goal.

And FIFA said everything was legit. Ajax went bonkers over this.

But the bottom line is, the money has to make worthwhile.  And if the money isn't worth it, people won't do it.  It's just human nature. 

Here's why match-fixing will NEVER be a big problem. 

Bets are always made with a bookie that offers lines. If match-fixing results in huge profits, it's the bookies that lose.  What happens if match-fixing gets out of hand.  Simple. Bookies will stop offering bets in low and mid-level leagues.

The one type of match-fixing that does worry me as a bettor, is the one that does NOT involve betting. 

In the mid-2000s, Juventus was caught bribing refs so they'd win more games.  How Juventus still exists is completely beyond me.  There's allegations that South Korea bought off refs in 2002 to win their games vs Italy and Spain.

There's nothing that bettors can do to detect that. 

Italian Serie A? Wasnt that league suspended at one stage?

I have also thought about this...I think some people cant stand the thought of putting their hard earned on a game after the research they have done and knowing indirectly players are laughing at them. otheriwse, why do they get angry?

Last year I was new to betting soccer but I understood the situation so I had a good feeling Lyon would win this match. The fishy part of this was the money line was Lyon -110. Obviously a fix

If people think there's a fix, then why bet?  You know that while they scream and curse "fix" , they'll bet the very next day.

I know that match-fixing happens.  But I think it's very rare - something like 0.7% is what some government official said.  The match-fixers make bets with bookies.  And bookies are still making huge profits. More reason to think it's rare.  Plus, I believe line movement will expose most of it.