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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 9:09 AM ET #226

    Quote Originally Posted by GSP10:

    Woops typing error +1740 = +170 in previous post

    I was going to ask you for the book or bookie you use!

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSP10:

    Woops typing error +1740 = +170 in previous post

    I was going to ask you for the book or bookie you use!

    GL

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 9:36 AM ET #228

    Can someone save me some time and tell me who Van is on today?
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 9:48 AM ET #229

    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    Can someone save me some time and tell me who Van is on today?

    Got it, Holland -170 (Sitting -129 at 5Dimes right now)

    Germany and the UNDER

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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    Can someone save me some time and tell me who Van is on today?

    Got it, Holland -170 (Sitting -129 at 5Dimes right now)

    Germany and the UNDER

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 11:37 AM ET #230

    Anyone think -1.5 or higher is worth a shot on the Dutch? They should kill the Danes... SHOULD
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    Anyone think -1.5 or higher is worth a shot on the Dutch? They should kill the Danes... SHOULD
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 12:26 PM ET #231

    Stunning turn of events, but 1-1 halftime is in the future. Netherlands clearly outplaying them.
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    Stunning turn of events, but 1-1 halftime is in the future. Netherlands clearly outplaying them.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 12:29 PM ET #232

    I'm sure some under dogs will win or at least draw
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 1:10 PM ET #233

    I took Portugal +300 1st Half.....any chance I get lucky and they win the 1H 1-0
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    I took Portugal +300 1st Half.....any chance I get lucky and they win the 1H 1-0
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 1:11 PM ET #234

    Portugal will tie with Germany 
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 1:14 PM ET #235

    Quote Originally Posted by hammer22:

    I took Portugal +300 1st Half.....any chance I get lucky and they win the 1H 1-0


    Why are you asking this question in a guys thread who has Germany?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer22:

    I took Portugal +300 1st Half.....any chance I get lucky and they win the 1H 1-0


    Why are you asking this question in a guys thread who has Germany?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 1:15 PM ET #236

    Rangerz are you going to cry.....u ok bud
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    Rangerz are you going to cry.....u ok bud
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 1:32 PM ET #237

    The original poster of this thread made great picks according to what should happen on paper but unfortunately they have to actually play the games and there will be some underdogs and upsets.
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    The original poster of this thread made great picks according to what should happen on paper but unfortunately they have to actually play the games and there will be some underdogs and upsets.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 1:33 PM ET #238

    Quote Originally Posted by hammer22:

    Rangerz are you going to cry.....u ok bud


    Typical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer22:

    Rangerz are you going to cry.....u ok bud


    Typical.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 2:56 PM ET #239

    Quote Originally Posted by hammer22:

    I took Portugal +300 1st Half.....any chance I get lucky and they win the 1H 1-0
    Are you lost or something? Who comes into a persons thread that clearly has Germany, and asks a question like this..You are a real asset to this site
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer22:

    I took Portugal +300 1st Half.....any chance I get lucky and they win the 1H 1-0
    Are you lost or something? Who comes into a persons thread that clearly has Germany, and asks a question like this..You are a real asset to this site
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 3:43 PM ET #240

    if you only knew
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 4:10 PM ET #241

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    Are you lost or something? Who comes into a persons thread that clearly has Germany, and asks a question like this..You are a real asset to this site



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    Are you lost or something? Who comes into a persons thread that clearly has Germany, and asks a question like this..You are a real asset to this site



     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 4:38 PM ET #242

    I feel like this game played out exactly as vanzack thought it would
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    I feel like this game played out exactly as vanzack thought it would
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 5:00 PM ET #243

    hey van... good to see you are off to a good start.... me too (although not posted so means nothing but 4-0-1)  I wished you would have played Denmark... But I am very glad to see you agree with me on Tomorrow's under... Keep up the good work.
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    hey van... good to see you are off to a good start.... me too (although not posted so means nothing but 4-0-1)  I wished you would have played Denmark... But I am very glad to see you agree with me on Tomorrow's under... Keep up the good work.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 5:15 PM ET #244

    A little post-mortem on those 2 games today.....

    What can you say about the Netherlands?  Those things happen.  But it did not go like I thought it would - especially for the offense and midfield of the Dutch.  Their defense was always going to be their liability - but I did not expect them to just run out of ideas in the midfield.

    Robbens shit is tired.  Those same cutbacks to the middle and stepovers only work for so long.  He had a bad game - and more and more I find myself saying that.  Schneider played decent - but in the last third of the game they were reduced to long balls in from 40 yards out - not very dutch.  There was zero finishing - and that in and of itself could be discussed as the biggest problem - but the lack of creativity from a team of creators was really the longterm problem for me.

    Maybe having too many quarterbacks on one team will be their downfall.  I was glad to see Huntelaar and especially Van Der Vart come in - but it was too late - and by then the Danes had settled in and the Dutch posed no problems.

    Im going to have to think long and hard about how the Dutch will solve these problems in time for Germany.  As for the Danes - they really get a good opportunity playing goal deficient Portugal next.....

     

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    A little post-mortem on those 2 games today.....

    What can you say about the Netherlands?  Those things happen.  But it did not go like I thought it would - especially for the offense and midfield of the Dutch.  Their defense was always going to be their liability - but I did not expect them to just run out of ideas in the midfield.

    Robbens shit is tired.  Those same cutbacks to the middle and stepovers only work for so long.  He had a bad game - and more and more I find myself saying that.  Schneider played decent - but in the last third of the game they were reduced to long balls in from 40 yards out - not very dutch.  There was zero finishing - and that in and of itself could be discussed as the biggest problem - but the lack of creativity from a team of creators was really the longterm problem for me.

    Maybe having too many quarterbacks on one team will be their downfall.  I was glad to see Huntelaar and especially Van Der Vart come in - but it was too late - and by then the Danes had settled in and the Dutch posed no problems.

    Im going to have to think long and hard about how the Dutch will solve these problems in time for Germany.  As for the Danes - they really get a good opportunity playing goal deficient Portugal next.....

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 5:20 PM ET #245

    As for Germany / Portugal.....

    It really was one of those games I felt like I had scripted before it started - really the first one of the tournament I felt like I had spot on.

    Portugal is just like and NBA all star team - lots of playmakers - but they dont play as a team.  How can Ronaldo have zero impact in a game like that?  Nani?  Both MIA.  It was actually the backs that were the stars for Portugal - and not just in the back - Pepe and Coentrau (sp?) were dangerous going forward too. 

    Remember - If you include WC 2010 - Portugal havent scored a goal in 4 of their last 5 games - and the only one they scored in was 7 against North Korea.  You have to score goals to win games - and they just dont do it.

    Germany looked like a first game Germany - rusty - but nothing stuck out to me as a problem going forward.  I was very glad to see Mertesacker replaced by Hummels - who I thought played excellent.  The defense as a whole was solid until the last 12 mins or so - but held their nerve just enough.

    The midfield play still seemed out of touch with the front line at times - like there was a break between the back 8 and the front 3.  Germany shouldnt have to play long hopeful balls - they should be able to build their attack in the midfield against anyone in the world - and Im not sure they did that so well today.

     

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    As for Germany / Portugal.....

    It really was one of those games I felt like I had scripted before it started - really the first one of the tournament I felt like I had spot on.

    Portugal is just like and NBA all star team - lots of playmakers - but they dont play as a team.  How can Ronaldo have zero impact in a game like that?  Nani?  Both MIA.  It was actually the backs that were the stars for Portugal - and not just in the back - Pepe and Coentrau (sp?) were dangerous going forward too. 

    Remember - If you include WC 2010 - Portugal havent scored a goal in 4 of their last 5 games - and the only one they scored in was 7 against North Korea.  You have to score goals to win games - and they just dont do it.

    Germany looked like a first game Germany - rusty - but nothing stuck out to me as a problem going forward.  I was very glad to see Mertesacker replaced by Hummels - who I thought played excellent.  The defense as a whole was solid until the last 12 mins or so - but held their nerve just enough.

    The midfield play still seemed out of touch with the front line at times - like there was a break between the back 8 and the front 3.  Germany shouldnt have to play long hopeful balls - they should be able to build their attack in the midfield against anyone in the world - and Im not sure they did that so well today.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 5:22 PM ET #246

    Anyone catch German coach Low picking his nose and eating it AGAIN!?!?!

    Remember the infamous clip from 2010 of him booger eating, and rubbing his underarms and sniffing.  You would think this guy would be aware of it and not do it on the sidelines.  But there he was again - chomping on the nose nuggets.

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    Anyone catch German coach Low picking his nose and eating it AGAIN!?!?!

    Remember the infamous clip from 2010 of him booger eating, and rubbing his underarms and sniffing.  You would think this guy would be aware of it and not do it on the sidelines.  But there he was again - chomping on the nose nuggets.

     
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    I will try to find a video clip of it....

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    I will try to find a video clip of it....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2012 - 5:54 PM ET #248

    Results:
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    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units
    Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    5. Spain / Italy - Spain is the tournament favorite - but I do see some cracks in the armour of the team that has dominated intl soccer for 4 years. Some key injuries (Puyol, Villa) in key positions might play a large role in this tournament. I also buy in to the theory that these guys have been going at this for 4 years straight - long club seasons packed with high level games and summers filled with intl duy - there has to be an issue of runnign out of gas - just ask Pep Guardiola. Im not downplaying that Spain - when on - plays the most attractive midfield football available - but even in WC2010 their lack of scoring punch (with Villa) was evident. They played in 7 game - won their last 4 by 1-0 scores - and lost 1-0 in their opening game, and scored 2 in the other two games. So they won the tournament by scoring 8 goals in 7 games.

    I love that Spain is made up primarily of players that know each other very well - but despite this they stil lost in their opener of WC10 to Switzerland. Italy come in with no expectations - a fresher group of younger players - and a manager that plays a slightly less defensive posture than previous Italians. But if Spain is the current kings of the 1-0 win - Italy was the original - the masters. Given this group - and that it is an opening game - I just see a very non-open midfield dominated game with a lack of scoring chances. I will be on Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units. Most likely final 0-0.

    6. Croatia / Rep of Ireland - Croatia are somewhat hard to figure for me. They have some really good players in key spots - and some weaknesses too. They often sit back and defend and counter - and sometimes play an open style. Much of this depends on Modric - maybe more than anyone else in this tournament - he is the absolute key to this team and any chance they have. There are rumors about his fitness not being up to snuff - but who knows for sure - I do know that if he is not 100% this team is not going to do well. Olic got hurt in the last week - so Jelavik will start up front - and I do see that as a significant loss. The defense is older and slower - but solid. They could go on a run, or they could bomb out - just hard for me to predict.

    Ireland might be the most anti-football defensive side in the tournament. Their goal is not to be scored on - period. Trapatoni (Italian Mgr) has all but said this - and it is probably their best chance of doing well here. The Greeks in 2004 proved it can be done - as Chelsea did in the CL this year. My issue is the lack of quality - even on defense - for the Irish. Dunne (aston Villa) and St Ledger (leicester City) anchor the defense - and both are ordinary in my opinion. In fact, most fo the squad is pretty ordinary - made up of midtable Pemier league players - there reaally isnt a single player on this squad that you would consider world class in their prime.

    Im going to be on Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units. I also would favor the under. Most likely result croatia 1-0.

    7. France PK -120 (I started betting it back at +110 all the way to -110, but I think this is good all the way to -150) for 5 units. Big one off the bat. Most likely result France 3 England 1.

    8. Ukraine / Sweden - This is the first game in the tournament that I think should be wide open with a lot of chances on goal. I will be on the over 2 -126 for 3 units. Most likely result Ukraine 3 Sweden 1.

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    Results:
    4-1
    +3.56 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units
    Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

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    5. Spain / Italy - Spain is the tournament favorite - but I do see some cracks in the armour of the team that has dominated intl soccer for 4 years. Some key injuries (Puyol, Villa) in key positions might play a large role in this tournament. I also buy in to the theory that these guys have been going at this for 4 years straight - long club seasons packed with high level games and summers filled with intl duy - there has to be an issue of runnign out of gas - just ask Pep Guardiola. Im not downplaying that Spain - when on - plays the most attractive midfield football available - but even in WC2010 their lack of scoring punch (with Villa) was evident. They played in 7 game - won their last 4 by 1-0 scores - and lost 1-0 in their opening game, and scored 2 in the other two games. So they won the tournament by scoring 8 goals in 7 games.

    I love that Spain is made up primarily of players that know each other very well - but despite this they stil lost in their opener of WC10 to Switzerland. Italy come in with no expectations - a fresher group of younger players - and a manager that plays a slightly less defensive posture than previous Italians. But if Spain is the current kings of the 1-0 win - Italy was the original - the masters. Given this group - and that it is an opening game - I just see a very non-open midfield dominated game with a lack of scoring chances. I will be on Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units. Most likely final 0-0.

    6. Croatia / Rep of Ireland - Croatia are somewhat hard to figure for me. They have some really good players in key spots - and some weaknesses too. They often sit back and defend and counter - and sometimes play an open style. Much of this depends on Modric - maybe more than anyone else in this tournament - he is the absolute key to this team and any chance they have. There are rumors about his fitness not being up to snuff - but who knows for sure - I do know that if he is not 100% this team is not going to do well. Olic got hurt in the last week - so Jelavik will start up front - and I do see that as a significant loss. The defense is older and slower - but solid. They could go on a run, or they could bomb out - just hard for me to predict.

    Ireland might be the most anti-football defensive side in the tournament. Their goal is not to be scored on - period. Trapatoni (Italian Mgr) has all but said this - and it is probably their best chance of doing well here. The Greeks in 2004 proved it can be done - as Chelsea did in the CL this year. My issue is the lack of quality - even on defense - for the Irish. Dunne (aston Villa) and St Ledger (leicester City) anchor the defense - and both are ordinary in my opinion. In fact, most fo the squad is pretty ordinary - made up of midtable Pemier league players - there reaally isnt a single player on this squad that you would consider world class in their prime.

    Im going to be on Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units. I also would favor the under. Most likely result croatia 1-0.

    7. France PK -120 (I started betting it back at +110 all the way to -110, but I think this is good all the way to -150) for 5 units. Big one off the bat. Most likely result France 3 England 1.

    8. Ukraine / Sweden - This is the first game in the tournament that I think should be wide open with a lot of chances on goal. I will be on the over 2 -126 for 3 units. Most likely result Ukraine 3 Sweden 1.

     
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    Anyone catch German coach Low picking his nose and eating it AGAIN!?!?!

    Remember the infamous clip from 2010 of him booger eating, and rubbing his underarms and sniffing.  You would think this guy would be aware of it and not do it on the sidelines.  But there he was again - chomping on the nose nuggets.

    As promised, here you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Anyone catch German coach Low picking his nose and eating it AGAIN!?!?!

    Remember the infamous clip from 2010 of him booger eating, and rubbing his underarms and sniffing.  You would think this guy would be aware of it and not do it on the sidelines.  But there he was again - chomping on the nose nuggets.

    As promised, here you go.

     
     
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