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    Will the US have to apply the Twenty-Fifth Amendment for Joe Biden declining mental state.

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    witswits
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 12:01 AM ET #1

    If you watch Joe Biden's mental decline just the past year and even past few months, you have to feel sorry they are still allowing him to continue. He now confuses most every topic, tells many tall tales that never happened and recalls others memories as his. They are now shielding him from speaking and only allow scripted engagements as he struggles with those. Reading the teleprompter is also a struggle as he cannot even understand what a "pause" is and says the word out loud.

     

    At some point the USA may need to use the twenty-fifth amendment for the safety of the Nation. We can only hope is it sooner and not later for the sake of us all.

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    If you watch Joe Biden's mental decline just the past year and even past few months, you have to feel sorry they are still allowing him to continue. He now confuses most every topic, tells many tall tales that never happened and recalls others memories as his. They are now shielding him from speaking and only allow scripted engagements as he struggles with those. Reading the teleprompter is also a struggle as he cannot even understand what a "pause" is and says the word out loud.

     

    At some point the USA may need to use the twenty-fifth amendment for the safety of the Nation. We can only hope is it sooner and not later for the sake of us all.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 2:21 AM ET #2

    The one smart thing Joe Biden ever did was take out the greatest insurance policy any politician ever had to make sure this never happens.

    peace_5

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    The one smart thing Joe Biden ever did was take out the greatest insurance policy any politician ever had to make sure this never happens.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 3:13 AM ET #3

    Biden receives an annual physical exam from medical team at Walter Reed hospital.  Doctor O'Connor says Biden is fit for duty and fully executes all of his responsibilities without any accommodation.  Neurologist says Biden doesn't need a cognitive exam.

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    Biden receives an annual physical exam from medical team at Walter Reed hospital.  Doctor O'Connor says Biden is fit for duty and fully executes all of his responsibilities without any accommodation.  Neurologist says Biden doesn't need a cognitive exam.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 8:42 AM ET #4

    @witswits

     Is he really saying [pause] during speeches? I wish I could use the face palm emoji.

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     Is he really saying [pause] during speeches? I wish I could use the face palm emoji.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 10:32 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @witswits  Is he really saying [pause] during speeches? I wish I could use the face palm emoji.

    What ever they put on the cue cards he reads. It is so sad to watch. Jill and family need to step in and not allow this elder abuse to continue for the Nation's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @witswits  Is he really saying [pause] during speeches? I wish I could use the face palm emoji.

    What ever they put on the cue cards he reads. It is so sad to watch. Jill and family need to step in and not allow this elder abuse to continue for the Nation's sake.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 10:53 AM ET #6

    If this were a ranking number I would look as who doesn't love rankings an_worship

    But you talking about amendments....

    Were not talking about rankings 

     

    Allen Iverson we're talkin bout practice 

     

    You have to post a tankimgpeace_5

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    If this were a ranking number I would look as who doesn't love rankings an_worship

    But you talking about amendments....

    Were not talking about rankings 

     

    Allen Iverson we're talkin bout practice 

     

    You have to post a tankimgpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 1:38 PM ET #7

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    Tough place the US is in with this administration. They allowed too much time to pass before replacing Joe for anyone else.

    America will elect a ham sandwich before they allow Joe 4 more years. Trump wins by default because of Biden's health.

     

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    Tough place the US is in with this administration. They allowed too much time to pass before replacing Joe for anyone else.

    America will elect a ham sandwich before they allow Joe 4 more years. Trump wins by default because of Biden's health.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 1:58 PM ET #8

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     You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.  

    I hope you are correct though. peace_5

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    @witswits

     You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.  

    I hope you are correct though. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though.

     

    Allowing a person that struggles with daily life and difficulty just functioning, is not good. Our enemies see the same thing we all see. They will have no choice soon and will be forced to hid hid him completely from the public view.

    The twenty-fifth amendment is in place for just this reason and both sides should give Biden the grace to bow out for health reasons. His Presidency is already doomed but allow him the ability to have an exit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though.

     

    Allowing a person that struggles with daily life and difficulty just functioning, is not good. Our enemies see the same thing we all see. They will have no choice soon and will be forced to hid hid him completely from the public view.

    The twenty-fifth amendment is in place for just this reason and both sides should give Biden the grace to bow out for health reasons. His Presidency is already doomed but allow him the ability to have an exit.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though.   Allowing a person that struggles with daily life and difficulty just functioning, is not good. Our enemies see the same thing we all see. They will have no choice soon and will be forced to hid hid him completely from the public view.

    I do not think so.  It is not just 'our enemies' that see it --but our allies as well.

    But this was well known before the last election.

    I said at the time Jill should not have let him run.  But I am sure the Democrats went to her and said that he was the best choice to beat Trump and the country needed him, etc.

    I said at the time she should have told them:  okay, but you have a couple of years to find someone else because he will not run again.

    But I feel now I was wrong about that.  I think she loves being First Lady more than she cares about how her husband is looked at and how his legacy may be affected.  This is a very sad situation.  If you have been around someone that is deteriorating like this, and you cared about them -- there is no way you let them do this.

    So, now the USA is simply having a President-by-committee.  Biden is simply the 'spokesman' -- when they can keep him on script.  But he is not making any decisions.  That is not the way the country was set up and not the way it should be run.

    But again:  The one smart thing Joe Biden ever did was take out the greatest insurance policy any politician ever had to make sure this never happens. 

    That is Kamala Harris:  She’s even more despised than he is, though she’s about as coherent.

    But you could very well be correct.  After the election -- if he wins --  maybe they decide to do that.

    The situation is that they almost guarantee a loss the next time, because I think she would try to actually make some decisions and really mess things up worse than Biden has.  Then would Newsome, or anyone, really, try to run against the first female President?  Or not allow her to become the first elected female President after that?  There is no way possible they could try to convince her to step away at that point as a double minority -- that would be an awful look as well.

    Very tricky situation, politically, to me. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though.   Allowing a person that struggles with daily life and difficulty just functioning, is not good. Our enemies see the same thing we all see. They will have no choice soon and will be forced to hid hid him completely from the public view.

    I do not think so.  It is not just 'our enemies' that see it --but our allies as well.

    But this was well known before the last election.

    I said at the time Jill should not have let him run.  But I am sure the Democrats went to her and said that he was the best choice to beat Trump and the country needed him, etc.

    I said at the time she should have told them:  okay, but you have a couple of years to find someone else because he will not run again.

    But I feel now I was wrong about that.  I think she loves being First Lady more than she cares about how her husband is looked at and how his legacy may be affected.  This is a very sad situation.  If you have been around someone that is deteriorating like this, and you cared about them -- there is no way you let them do this.

    So, now the USA is simply having a President-by-committee.  Biden is simply the 'spokesman' -- when they can keep him on script.  But he is not making any decisions.  That is not the way the country was set up and not the way it should be run.

    But again:  The one smart thing Joe Biden ever did was take out the greatest insurance policy any politician ever had to make sure this never happens. 

    That is Kamala Harris:  She’s even more despised than he is, though she’s about as coherent.

    But you could very well be correct.  After the election -- if he wins --  maybe they decide to do that.

    The situation is that they almost guarantee a loss the next time, because I think she would try to actually make some decisions and really mess things up worse than Biden has.  Then would Newsome, or anyone, really, try to run against the first female President?  Or not allow her to become the first elected female President after that?  There is no way possible they could try to convince her to step away at that point as a double minority -- that would be an awful look as well.

    Very tricky situation, politically, to me. peace_5

     
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    I do not think Kamala would be allowed in the White House and we would see how is really running the show behind the scenes. The Deep State has to figure out how to keep Trump out as this time at all costs. He has little to lose this round and he knows who his real enemies are on both sides.

    It will be a real house cleaning and help the Nation get back on track with the rest of the World with trump back in. 

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    I do not think Kamala would be allowed in the White House and we would see how is really running the show behind the scenes. The Deep State has to figure out how to keep Trump out as this time at all costs. He has little to lose this round and he knows who his real enemies are on both sides.

    It will be a real house cleaning and help the Nation get back on track with the rest of the World with trump back in. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though.

    The Republicans have to play the same game. They will also pick up the black male vote and the minorities from all the Trump unfair persecution and trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though.

    The Republicans have to play the same game. They will also pick up the black male vote and the minorities from all the Trump unfair persecution and trails.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @Raiders22 I do not think Kamala would be allowed in the White House and we would see how is really running the show behind the scenes. The Deep State has to figure out how to keep Trump out as this time at all costs. He has little to lose this round and he knows who his real enemies are on both sides. It will be a real house cleaning and help the Nation get back on track with the rest of the World with trump back in.

    So, what would they do?  Run someone in place of Biden -- almost too late for that.  Replace Harris?  How?  Without looking very bad.  No way they can convince her to step aside at this point.  But, if somehow they can still manage to 'run' the Presidency with her in place, okay.  But I still see the same problem the next election.  They and/or her will have messed things up even more by then.  If a 'decent' Democrat could replace Biden then I could see things being different.  But that does not look to happen.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @Raiders22 I do not think Kamala would be allowed in the White House and we would see how is really running the show behind the scenes. The Deep State has to figure out how to keep Trump out as this time at all costs. He has little to lose this round and he knows who his real enemies are on both sides. It will be a real house cleaning and help the Nation get back on track with the rest of the World with trump back in.

    So, what would they do?  Run someone in place of Biden -- almost too late for that.  Replace Harris?  How?  Without looking very bad.  No way they can convince her to step aside at this point.  But, if somehow they can still manage to 'run' the Presidency with her in place, okay.  But I still see the same problem the next election.  They and/or her will have messed things up even more by then.  If a 'decent' Democrat could replace Biden then I could see things being different.  But that does not look to happen.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though. The Republicans have to play the same game. They will also pick up the black male vote and the minorities from all the Trump unfair persecution and trails.

    Maybe, but will it be enough.  That is dicey to depend on unreliable voting blocs.  Look at the turnout percentages for those groups.  Then look at the states that he would need them to really turnout AND to be the difference.  Even if they decide they are disillusioned and do not vote at all -- would that even matter, etc.?

    I think he needs to rally his base and convince some of the very few true Independents that are left.  Then any of the usually reliable Democrat-voting blocs that may decide to vote for him would be gravy.  He has to have a great turnout from the dependable voters, while hoping enough Democrats are blasé enough to stay home. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @witswits  You sure are giving the folks a lot of credit.  I could make the opposite case very easily.   I hope you are correct though. The Republicans have to play the same game. They will also pick up the black male vote and the minorities from all the Trump unfair persecution and trails.

    Maybe, but will it be enough.  That is dicey to depend on unreliable voting blocs.  Look at the turnout percentages for those groups.  Then look at the states that he would need them to really turnout AND to be the difference.  Even if they decide they are disillusioned and do not vote at all -- would that even matter, etc.?

    I think he needs to rally his base and convince some of the very few true Independents that are left.  Then any of the usually reliable Democrat-voting blocs that may decide to vote for him would be gravy.  He has to have a great turnout from the dependable voters, while hoping enough Democrats are blasé enough to stay home. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 4:58 PM ET #15

    Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up

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    Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up

    I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up

    I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?

     

    Nah, I prefer to live my life in lieu of going to pep rallies for politicians.  It's a weird vibe to say the least. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?

     

    Nah, I prefer to live my life in lieu of going to pep rallies for politicians.  It's a weird vibe to say the least. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?

     

    Nah, I prefer to live my life in lieu of going to pep rallies for politicians.  It's a weird vibe to say the least. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?

     

    Nah, I prefer to live my life in lieu of going to pep rallies for politicians.  It's a weird vibe to say the least. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @witswits  Is he really saying [pause] during speeches? I wish I could use the face palm emoji.

    an_eek2 Use this one in it's place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @witswits  Is he really saying [pause] during speeches? I wish I could use the face palm emoji.

    an_eek2 Use this one in it's place.

     
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    The only way the 25th would get used is by the Dems. Leaving Biden to F things up more by November is best for Repubs. 

    Let the fool go.

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    The only way the 25th would get used is by the Dems. Leaving Biden to F things up more by November is best for Repubs. 

    Let the fool go.

     
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    They will do a few more Trump impeachments after he gets in. The good news is the American people are waking up and seeing the horrible double standard now from the Dems. It will cost them big in this election and possible a few others.

    The black voters do not like Dems trying to jail Trump. The minorities left countries that put political opponents in jail. They do not like the Dems approach as they left places that did that.

    All that is left is a Trump/Biden debate and we all know it will be a blood bath.

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    @UNIMAN

    They will do a few more Trump impeachments after he gets in. The good news is the American people are waking up and seeing the horrible double standard now from the Dems. It will cost them big in this election and possible a few others.

    The black voters do not like Dems trying to jail Trump. The minorities left countries that put political opponents in jail. They do not like the Dems approach as they left places that did that.

    All that is left is a Trump/Biden debate and we all know it will be a blood bath.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Quote Originally Posted by witswits: Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?   Nah, I prefer to live my life in lieu of going to pep rallies for politicians.  It's a weird vibe to say the least.

     

    I understand as there are no rally's for Biden that people show up. Maybe catch him in a ice cream shop.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Quote Originally Posted by witswits: Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Maybe you and your friends can discuss this at the Trump rally at MSG coming up I will look for you at the rally. I know I am excited to see the 45th and 47th President. You?   Nah, I prefer to live my life in lieu of going to pep rallies for politicians.  It's a weird vibe to say the least.

     

    I understand as there are no rally's for Biden that people show up. Maybe catch him in a ice cream shop.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2024 - 11:36 PM ET #23

    What boggles the mind with Trump is there is so much verbal diarrhea comes out of his mouth for the last 7 years, it’s hard to actually analyze it for quality and truth….Na he wouldn’t know the truth if stared him in the face! Every day it’s  a constant stream of words without regard for if they make a lick of sense. I just don’t think he or his death eaters care if any of it is coherent. Hopefully when incarcerated he will get the help he needs.

     

     

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    What boggles the mind with Trump is there is so much verbal diarrhea comes out of his mouth for the last 7 years, it’s hard to actually analyze it for quality and truth….Na he wouldn’t know the truth if stared him in the face! Every day it’s  a constant stream of words without regard for if they make a lick of sense. I just don’t think he or his death eaters care if any of it is coherent. Hopefully when incarcerated he will get the help he needs.

     

     

     
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    We will know by the democratic convention.  Joe could come on stage and say he is stepping down and give all his delegates to his choosing.  Which would be whatever his cue card says on it.  He is the biggest puppet of puppets, but if he spoke of the matter he would be the master of puppets.  He actually co wrote puppets with James Hetfield, FJB is the one who created a mosh pit.  The most interesting man in the world was Joe, but his 'secret service' when in the senate found another old man to take his place.  If paper beats rock, rock beats scissors, and scissors beats paper, what beats all 3 at the same time?  Joe's economics...an_light On the 7th day, Joe Biden was born.  Joe Biden bowls a 300 every game.  Joe Biden can speak Braille.  Joe once did a wheelie on a unicycle.  Every chant in sports is not 4 more years pause!!

    Joe Biden will tell you he kicked Chuck Norris ass and some of the idiots we walk with would believe him.

    Howard Stern, the shock jock that was great radio before he went Sirius woke asked FJB and Joe said he would debate DJT an_popcorn

    ratings will be better than Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul.  ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.  

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    We will know by the democratic convention.  Joe could come on stage and say he is stepping down and give all his delegates to his choosing.  Which would be whatever his cue card says on it.  He is the biggest puppet of puppets, but if he spoke of the matter he would be the master of puppets.  He actually co wrote puppets with James Hetfield, FJB is the one who created a mosh pit.  The most interesting man in the world was Joe, but his 'secret service' when in the senate found another old man to take his place.  If paper beats rock, rock beats scissors, and scissors beats paper, what beats all 3 at the same time?  Joe's economics...an_light On the 7th day, Joe Biden was born.  Joe Biden bowls a 300 every game.  Joe Biden can speak Braille.  Joe once did a wheelie on a unicycle.  Every chant in sports is not 4 more years pause!!

    Joe Biden will tell you he kicked Chuck Norris ass and some of the idiots we walk with would believe him.

    Howard Stern, the shock jock that was great radio before he went Sirius woke asked FJB and Joe said he would debate DJT an_popcorn

    ratings will be better than Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul.  ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.  

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2024 - 12:53 AM ET #25

    Joe Biden is the reason why Waldo is hiding

    the bulls in Pamplona are running away from Joe Biden

    China made the great wall to keep Joe Biden out

    Joe doesn't breathe, he holds air hostage!!! this is reality 

    Freddy Krueger has nightmares about Joe Biden

    the best for last...

    The Flu gets a Joe Biden shot every year.

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    Joe Biden is the reason why Waldo is hiding

    the bulls in Pamplona are running away from Joe Biden

    China made the great wall to keep Joe Biden out

    Joe doesn't breathe, he holds air hostage!!! this is reality 

    Freddy Krueger has nightmares about Joe Biden

    the best for last...

    The Flu gets a Joe Biden shot every year.

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