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    Who did Ray Epps work for?

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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2021 - 10:01 PM ET #1

    One Arizona man who appeared prominently in videos from the Jan. 6 Capitol riot — but has never been charged — returned to prominence this week when those videos were replayed in Congress. 

    A video of Queen Creek resident Ray Epps was shown by U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky during a House oversight hearing where lawmakers questioned Attorney General Merrick Garland about the attack on the Capitol. 

    Massie used the video as occasion to ask Garland not just about Epps, but about the belief that federal agents were present and agitating people before the riot.  

    One video shows Epps telling people on Jan. 5 they need to go into the U.S. Capitol. Other video shows him directing them on Jan. 6 toward the historic building. 

    Massie showed video and images of Epps during the hearing, then asked Garland, "as far as we can find, this individual has not been charged with anything. You said this is one of the most sweeping investigations in history."

    Garland responded that the U.S. Department of Justice does not comment on pending investigations, especially particular scenes or individuals. 

    Massie persisted. 

    "Can you tell us — without talking about particular incidents or particular videos — how many agents or assets of the federal government were present on January 6? Whether they agitated to go into the Capitol and if any of them did?

    "I'm not going to comment on an investigation that's ongoing," Garland responded. 

    On videos Epps repeated several times "We need to go in the Capitol", "as soon as Trump stops speaking we need to go in the Capitol." When he encouraged a crowd on the evening of Jan 5th the crowd responded with a BIG NO!! and then chanted "FED, FED, FED, FED." But Epps didn't stop, at least two videos show him on Jan 6th encourging crowds to go in the Capitol.

    The FBI had Ebbs on their wanted list but NEVER announced they arrested him. He's a free man. He has since been removed from the wanted list.

    Not hard to figure this one out.

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    One Arizona man who appeared prominently in videos from the Jan. 6 Capitol riot — but has never been charged — returned to prominence this week when those videos were replayed in Congress. 

    A video of Queen Creek resident Ray Epps was shown by U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky during a House oversight hearing where lawmakers questioned Attorney General Merrick Garland about the attack on the Capitol. 

    Massie used the video as occasion to ask Garland not just about Epps, but about the belief that federal agents were present and agitating people before the riot.  

    One video shows Epps telling people on Jan. 5 they need to go into the U.S. Capitol. Other video shows him directing them on Jan. 6 toward the historic building. 

    Massie showed video and images of Epps during the hearing, then asked Garland, "as far as we can find, this individual has not been charged with anything. You said this is one of the most sweeping investigations in history."

    Garland responded that the U.S. Department of Justice does not comment on pending investigations, especially particular scenes or individuals. 

    Massie persisted. 

    "Can you tell us — without talking about particular incidents or particular videos — how many agents or assets of the federal government were present on January 6? Whether they agitated to go into the Capitol and if any of them did?

    "I'm not going to comment on an investigation that's ongoing," Garland responded. 

    On videos Epps repeated several times "We need to go in the Capitol", "as soon as Trump stops speaking we need to go in the Capitol." When he encouraged a crowd on the evening of Jan 5th the crowd responded with a BIG NO!! and then chanted "FED, FED, FED, FED." But Epps didn't stop, at least two videos show him on Jan 6th encourging crowds to go in the Capitol.

    The FBI had Ebbs on their wanted list but NEVER announced they arrested him. He's a free man. He has since been removed from the wanted list.

    Not hard to figure this one out.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2021 - 10:15 PM ET #2

    Let's see how long Youtube leaves this up.

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    Let's see how long Youtube leaves this up.

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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2021 - 7:46 PM ET #3

    Yep, video removed.  

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    Yep, video removed.  

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 11:44 AM ET #4

    “We have now been followed home and questioned by the FBI after our videos confronting Ray Epps as an alleged Federal Informant and interviewing his daughter. The FBI claims not to know who Ray Epps is.”

    https://twitter.com/kyleisbased/status/1457126735107952643?s=21

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    “We have now been followed home and questioned by the FBI after our videos confronting Ray Epps as an alleged Federal Informant and interviewing his daughter. The FBI claims not to know who Ray Epps is.”

    https://twitter.com/kyleisbased/status/1457126735107952643?s=21

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2021 - 1:20 PM ET #5

    We will find out down the road that he was planted by the feds, that pelosi and others orchestrated it and others knew and were involved in some capacity.   Not one was arrested for insurrection,  just trespassing and other insignificant fines.  The fact they still in jail while other criminals shoot , kill rape etc are out in hours.   This should tell us what direction we are going.  Fuck Joe biden

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    We will find out down the road that he was planted by the feds, that pelosi and others orchestrated it and others knew and were involved in some capacity.   Not one was arrested for insurrection,  just trespassing and other insignificant fines.  The fact they still in jail while other criminals shoot , kill rape etc are out in hours.   This should tell us what direction we are going.  Fuck Joe biden

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2021 - 4:23 PM ET #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    We will find out down the road that he was planted by the feds, that pelosi and others orchestrated it and others knew and were involved in some capacity.   Not one was arrested for insurrection,  just trespassing and other insignificant fines.  The fact they still in jail while other criminals shoot , kill rape etc are out in hours.   This should tell us what direction we are going.  Fuck Joe biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    We will find out down the road that he was planted by the feds, that pelosi and others orchestrated it and others knew and were involved in some capacity.   Not one was arrested for insurrection,  just trespassing and other insignificant fines.  The fact they still in jail while other criminals shoot , kill rape etc are out in hours.   This should tell us what direction we are going.  Fuck Joe biden

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2021 - 2:52 PM ET #8

    Laugh all you want... it is quite comical you box  call it an "insurrection" yet not 1 person has been charged.  Protesters from the past summer , wh actually destroyed,  hurt ,killed are out in hours to commit more real crimes yet these from Jan 6 still sit in jail... why?... there was no insurrection,  and they know it.  Once again the left will be caught with their hand in the cookie jar.  Have a happy healthy safe prosperous new year!!!

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    Laugh all you want... it is quite comical you box  call it an "insurrection" yet not 1 person has been charged.  Protesters from the past summer , wh actually destroyed,  hurt ,killed are out in hours to commit more real crimes yet these from Jan 6 still sit in jail... why?... there was no insurrection,  and they know it.  Once again the left will be caught with their hand in the cookie jar.  Have a happy healthy safe prosperous new year!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 8:59 PM ET #9

    So the video was not available, at least for me for a few hours. Hmm.

    Watch the video. Epps incites the crowd to violate the law and enter the Capitol. Says he is going to enter it himself but never does. 

    Here is what Adam Kinzinger now says:

    "He didn’t enter the Capitol on Jan 6, and was removed from the most wanted list because apparently he broke no laws. I’m pretty sure the FBI wouldn’t be dumb enough to put their own agent on a wanted list. Ray Epps has cooperated with the Jan 6 committee and we thank him"

    So if this guy violated no laws neither did Trump!!

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    So the video was not available, at least for me for a few hours. Hmm.

    Watch the video. Epps incites the crowd to violate the law and enter the Capitol. Says he is going to enter it himself but never does. 

    Here is what Adam Kinzinger now says:

    "He didn’t enter the Capitol on Jan 6, and was removed from the most wanted list because apparently he broke no laws. I’m pretty sure the FBI wouldn’t be dumb enough to put their own agent on a wanted list. Ray Epps has cooperated with the Jan 6 committee and we thank him"

    So if this guy violated no laws neither did Trump!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 9:02 PM ET #10

    This is total BS. If this guy was really right-wing they would be throwing the book at him. 

    Nice try Adam.

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    This is total BS. If this guy was really right-wing they would be throwing the book at him. 

    Nice try Adam.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 9:15 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Laugh all you want... it is quite comical you box  call it an "insurrection" yet not 1 person has been charged.  .. there was no insurrection,  and they know it.  Once again the left will be caught with their hand in the cookie jar. 

                    

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Laugh all you want... it is quite comical you box  call it an "insurrection" yet not 1 person has been charged.  .. there was no insurrection,  and they know it.  Once again the left will be caught with their hand in the cookie jar. 

                    

                     an_roll_laugh

     
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    He owns a wedding venue called Knotty Barn on a farm in Queen Creek, AZ.

    He's self employed.

     

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    He owns a wedding venue called Knotty Barn on a farm in Queen Creek, AZ.

    He's self employed.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2022 - 10:13 PM ET #13

    Per Barbara McQuade, law professor @ the University of Michigan & former U.S. attorney stated "It is quite possible that insufficient evidence exists to charge him with a crime, either because his conduct did not amount to criminal behavior or the facts cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” she said. “It could also be that he has agreed to cooperate, and so any charges are being deferred until prosecutors are able to assess the value of his cooperation.” 

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    Per Barbara McQuade, law professor @ the University of Michigan & former U.S. attorney stated "It is quite possible that insufficient evidence exists to charge him with a crime, either because his conduct did not amount to criminal behavior or the facts cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” she said. “It could also be that he has agreed to cooperate, and so any charges are being deferred until prosecutors are able to assess the value of his cooperation.” 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 8:12 AM ET #14

    “A member of the far-right Proud Boys texted his F.B.I. handler during the assault” — NYT 

    Have they questioned the handler? What did the texts say? 

    Was Epps under oath? Has anyone at the FBI discussed Epps under oath? 

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    “A member of the far-right Proud Boys texted his F.B.I. handler during the assault” — NYT 

    Have they questioned the handler? What did the texts say? 

    Was Epps under oath? Has anyone at the FBI discussed Epps under oath? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 8:13 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    So if this guy violated no laws neither did Trump!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    So if this guy violated no laws neither did Trump!!

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 8:20 AM ET #16

    Anyone remember the Michigan kidnapping plot? 

    What happened there? 

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    Anyone remember the Michigan kidnapping plot? 

    What happened there? 

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 8:30 AM ET #17

    Is Stuart Rhodes a federal agent or informant? 

    What is his connection to Ray Epps? 

    Ray Epps — the only individual found in the mountains of video evidence from January 6th who explicitly called for a mission to “go into the Capitol.” 

    Who planted the pipe bombs around the Capitol? Why can’t the FBI figure out who planted the pipe bombs? 

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    Is Stuart Rhodes a federal agent or informant? 

    What is his connection to Ray Epps? 

    Ray Epps — the only individual found in the mountains of video evidence from January 6th who explicitly called for a mission to “go into the Capitol.” 

    Who planted the pipe bombs around the Capitol? Why can’t the FBI figure out who planted the pipe bombs? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Anyone remember the Michigan kidnapping plot?  What happened there?

    An FBI informant actually plotted and assisted, so the FBI labeled this person as a " double agent" in an attempt to distance themselves. 

    The fact the FBI was so involved and yet didn't wait until an actual attempt of a crime was committed speaks volumes. A bunch of wanta-be important losers they setup. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Anyone remember the Michigan kidnapping plot?  What happened there?

    An FBI informant actually plotted and assisted, so the FBI labeled this person as a " double agent" in an attempt to distance themselves. 

    The fact the FBI was so involved and yet didn't wait until an actual attempt of a crime was committed speaks volumes. A bunch of wanta-be important losers they setup. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2022 - 8:55 PM ET #19

    Ray Epps was President of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers

    True or false?

     

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    Ray Epps was President of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers

    True or false?

     

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     If you think the FBI is dirty, they pale to the CIA.

    The big bad MSM, who can't be trusted, are the reporters who bring this dirt to light.

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     If you think the FBI is dirty, they pale to the CIA.

    The big bad MSM, who can't be trusted, are the reporters who bring this dirt to light.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2022 - 8:09 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  If you think the FBI is dirty, they pale to the CIA. The big bad MSM, who can't be trusted, are the reporters who bring this dirt to light.

    You’ve been swinging from the jock of Brennan, Hayden and Clapper for the last 5 years 

    Brennan works for NBC and MSNBC 

    Clapper works for CNN 

    Hayden works for CNN 

    Mudd works for CNN 

    Hall works for CNN, WAPO 

    Vinograd worked for CNN now with Biden 

    Zarate works for NBC, MSNBC 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  If you think the FBI is dirty, they pale to the CIA. The big bad MSM, who can't be trusted, are the reporters who bring this dirt to light.

    You’ve been swinging from the jock of Brennan, Hayden and Clapper for the last 5 years 

    Brennan works for NBC and MSNBC 

    Clapper works for CNN 

    Hayden works for CNN 

    Mudd works for CNN 

    Hall works for CNN, WAPO 

    Vinograd worked for CNN now with Biden 

    Zarate works for NBC, MSNBC 

     

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2022 - 8:14 AM ET #22

    You think it was a mistake that CNN falsely reported ‘hands up don’t shoot’ or that Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, or supported BLM riots 

    These are all CIA tactics that you continuously fall for and now you’re educating the forum how bad the CIA is as if you’re in the know 

    You think MSM is going to protect the American public from the CIA? THEY ARE THE CIA YOU INBRED! 

     

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    You think it was a mistake that CNN falsely reported ‘hands up don’t shoot’ or that Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, or supported BLM riots 

    These are all CIA tactics that you continuously fall for and now you’re educating the forum how bad the CIA is as if you’re in the know 

    You think MSM is going to protect the American public from the CIA? THEY ARE THE CIA YOU INBRED! 

     

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2022 - 8:34 AM ET #23

    The brass at the CIA, FBI, DEA, NSA etc work with members of committees like foreign relations, homeland security, intelligence, etc and they work with the brass in the media to create narratives and do the bidding of their puppet masters 

    This is how it works. If you make it into that circle and you outperform (in the eyes of the masters) you will be rewarded. 

    This is why they hate Trump because he wasn’t part of the circle, came from nowhere, and didn’t ‘earn’ it. 

    This is why they liked Clinton, Kerry, Bush, Cheney, Biden, McCain etc 

    Do you think Biden was picked because of his brilliance and speaking capabilities? 

    BLM, MeToo, terrorism, domestic terrorism, Russia! (we can’t trust elections), insurrection! (we must trust elections), etc are all CIA projects. They take something real and spin it to fit their narrative and use the narratives to get what they want. 

    This ends my TedTalk peace_5

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    The brass at the CIA, FBI, DEA, NSA etc work with members of committees like foreign relations, homeland security, intelligence, etc and they work with the brass in the media to create narratives and do the bidding of their puppet masters 

    This is how it works. If you make it into that circle and you outperform (in the eyes of the masters) you will be rewarded. 

    This is why they hate Trump because he wasn’t part of the circle, came from nowhere, and didn’t ‘earn’ it. 

    This is why they liked Clinton, Kerry, Bush, Cheney, Biden, McCain etc 

    Do you think Biden was picked because of his brilliance and speaking capabilities? 

    BLM, MeToo, terrorism, domestic terrorism, Russia! (we can’t trust elections), insurrection! (we must trust elections), etc are all CIA projects. They take something real and spin it to fit their narrative and use the narratives to get what they want. 

    This ends my TedTalk peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2022 - 2:25 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The brass at the CIA, FBI, DEA, NSA etc work with members of committees like foreign relations, homeland security, intelligence, etc and they work with the brass in the media to create narratives and do the bidding of their puppet masters  This is how it works. If you make it into that circle and you outperform (in the eyes of the masters) you will be rewarded.  This is why they hate Trump because he wasn’t part of the circle, came from nowhere, and didn’t ‘earn’ it.  This is why they liked Clinton, Kerry, Bush, Cheney, Biden, McCain etc  Do you think Biden was picked because of his brilliance and speaking capabilities?  BLM, MeToo, terrorism, domestic terrorism, Russia! (we can’t trust elections), insurrection! (we must trust elections), etc are all CIA projects. They take something real and spin it to fit their narrative and use the narratives to get what they want.  This ends my TedTalk

    The Sheeple can't handle the truth... 

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    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The brass at the CIA, FBI, DEA, NSA etc work with members of committees like foreign relations, homeland security, intelligence, etc and they work with the brass in the media to create narratives and do the bidding of their puppet masters  This is how it works. If you make it into that circle and you outperform (in the eyes of the masters) you will be rewarded.  This is why they hate Trump because he wasn’t part of the circle, came from nowhere, and didn’t ‘earn’ it.  This is why they liked Clinton, Kerry, Bush, Cheney, Biden, McCain etc  Do you think Biden was picked because of his brilliance and speaking capabilities?  BLM, MeToo, terrorism, domestic terrorism, Russia! (we can’t trust elections), insurrection! (we must trust elections), etc are all CIA projects. They take something real and spin it to fit their narrative and use the narratives to get what they want.  This ends my TedTalk

    The Sheeple can't handle the truth... 

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