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    fubah2
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 1:13 AM ET #1

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

    "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    Reply
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

    "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 1:17 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,  in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

    "I made early withdrawal possible by already pulling much of our
     billions of dollars of equipment out and, more importantly,
     reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops
     from the 16,000 level that was there"

     

    (NOTE: thus leaving virtually the entire defense against the Taliban
      to the Afghan military of nearly 300,000 trained troops)

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,  in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

    "I made early withdrawal possible by already pulling much of our
     billions of dollars of equipment out and, more importantly,
     reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops
     from the 16,000 level that was there"

     

    (NOTE: thus leaving virtually the entire defense against the Taliban
      to the Afghan military of nearly 300,000 trained troops)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 1:20 AM ET #3

    Afghan President Ashraf Ghani told CNN's Fareed Zakaria in an exclusive interview on "GPS" on Sunday that he supports Biden's decision to pull US troops out of the country an_light

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    Afghan President Ashraf Ghani told CNN's Fareed Zakaria in an exclusive interview on "GPS" on Sunday that he supports Biden's decision to pull US troops out of the country an_light

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 10:24 AM ET #4

    Oddly, Trump blames Biden for Afghan withdrawal that he previously brags about.  Trump's security advisor McMaster agrees that Trump would have done essentially the same thing as Biden.  Sanford historian Crews say taliban deal is a blueprint for surrender.  Recently, GOP has deleted web page about taliban deal that Trump is so proud of.

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    Oddly, Trump blames Biden for Afghan withdrawal that he previously brags about.  Trump's security advisor McMaster agrees that Trump would have done essentially the same thing as Biden.  Sanford historian Crews say taliban deal is a blueprint for surrender.  Recently, GOP has deleted web page about taliban deal that Trump is so proud of.

     
    kcblitzkrieg
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:09 PM ET #5

    On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.

    "The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.

    Time is a flat circle....
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    On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.

    "The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:12 PM ET #6

    There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that.  Blame this and blame that.  

    There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that.  Blame this and blame that.  

    There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.  

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:18 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

     "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    yep    rump supported this  and was going to do the same thing himself

    fact  peace_5

    of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place

    that falls on the republicans too        epic blunder by them

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

     "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    yep    rump supported this  and was going to do the same thing himself

    fact  peace_5

    of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place

    that falls on the republicans too        epic blunder by them

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:21 PM ET #8

     Just another Biden blunder. Gates was right about him.......so was Owebama for that matter.

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     Just another Biden blunder. Gates was right about him.......so was Owebama for that matter.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

     "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

     

     

    yep    rump supported this  and was going to do the same thing himself

    fact  peace_5

    of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place

    that falls on the republicans too        epic blunder by them

     

    Correct.   Republicans can't rewrite history.   It was their EPIC BLUNDER that started all this, although it is funny how the arsonists are quick to blame the firefighters.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

     "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

     

     

    yep    rump supported this  and was going to do the same thing himself

    fact  peace_5

    of course we should have never been occupying the country in the first place

    that falls on the republicans too        epic blunder by them

     

    Correct.   Republicans can't rewrite history.   It was their EPIC BLUNDER that started all this, although it is funny how the arsonists are quick to blame the firefighters.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:54 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that.  Blame this and blame that.   There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.
    Any coincidence that Biden scheduled this to be done while he was "on vacation"? What, does he think it'll all blow over by the time he gets back?

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    There was never a question of withdrawal, it is the complete clusterfuck of a job in withdrawing is what is so dumbfounding.... you guys are missing the point completely here as you just want to bitch about partisan this and partisan that.  Blame this and blame that.   There is absolutely NO accountability from anyone for what will go down in the history books as an epic blunder.
    Any coincidence that Biden scheduled this to be done while he was "on vacation"? What, does he think it'll all blow over by the time he gets back?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:57 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

    "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    one of the very few things rump said that was a good thing

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

    "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    one of the very few things rump said that was a good thing

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 12:58 PM ET #12

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

    "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    analysts including generals who were there r saying the same thing would have happened if rump had not been kicked out out of the white house

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ...

    April 19

    Washington (CNN)
    Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops
    from Afghanistan.
    Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans
    to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's
    longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week.
    (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31)

    Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do,"
    he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline.

    "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,
      in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    analysts including generals who were there r saying the same thing would have happened if rump had not been kicked out out of the white house

     

     
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    @THEMUGG

     Guarantee that's what his brain trust was telling him.  Press Sec Jen conveniently on vacation as well.... many of their own media left are going after them hard, as they should.  AOC, Pelosi & the rest of the clan are in complete silence... and it is deafening an_light

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @THEMUGG

     Guarantee that's what his brain trust was telling him.  Press Sec Jen conveniently on vacation as well.... many of their own media left are going after them hard, as they should.  AOC, Pelosi & the rest of the clan are in complete silence... and it is deafening an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,  in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    only real difference is that   just like he did to the kurds     rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,  in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

    only real difference is that   just like he did to the kurds     rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there

     
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      The cowardice of the Biden admin. on display.peace_5

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    @kcblitzkrieg

      The cowardice of the Biden admin. on display.peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,  in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

     

    only real difference is that   just like he did to the kurds     rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there

     

    Precisely.  trump was going to abandon ALL the Afghans who helped us.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    LEST we forget ... April 19 Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump on Sunday praised withdrawing US troops from Afghanistan.Though the former President offered his support of President Joe Biden's plans to bring home American troops, he urged his successor to draw an end to America's longest war well before the September 11 deadline that Biden set last week. (NOTE:  It's now set at Aug 31) Trump said that while leaving Afghanistan is "a wonderful and positive thing to do," he had set a May 1 withdrawal deadline. "First, we can and should get out earlier. Nineteen years is enough,  in fact, far too much and way too long," Trump said

     

     

    only real difference is that   just like he did to the kurds     rump wasnt going to evacuate any afghans who helped the us military there

     

    Precisely.  trump was going to abandon ALL the Afghans who helped us.

     

     

     
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    He was in charge of the withdrawal... his epic embarrassing moment...  one Obama official.... China gave Joe the election... Joe gave China Afghanistan...  this guy spent more time on designing form fitting uniforms  for the guys and gals in the service... more time on crr.... more time making sure of gender identity and cross gender transformation than the people fighting and protecting... he cares only for his own pocket, and own narrative... gates was right... Joe has been wrong on EVERY  foreign policy.... this guy  got to go before more innocent people suffer.

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    He was in charge of the withdrawal... his epic embarrassing moment...  one Obama official.... China gave Joe the election... Joe gave China Afghanistan...  this guy spent more time on designing form fitting uniforms  for the guys and gals in the service... more time on crr.... more time making sure of gender identity and cross gender transformation than the people fighting and protecting... he cares only for his own pocket, and own narrative... gates was right... Joe has been wrong on EVERY  foreign policy.... this guy  got to go before more innocent people suffer.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2021 - 3:03 PM ET #19

    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    an_light Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy an_light

     

    Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.

    And it's a doozy.

    First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.


    In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.

     

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    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    an_light Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy an_light

     

    Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.

    And it's a doozy.

    First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.


    In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.

     

     
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    @scooby-doos

     ask those Afghanis how much they care about "pronouns" "white privilege" and "wokeness" an_roll_laugh

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @scooby-doos

     ask those Afghanis how much they care about "pronouns" "white privilege" and "wokeness" an_roll_laugh

     
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    On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.

    "The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.

    Time is a flat circle....
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    On July 8, Biden discussed the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, swatting back concerns that a Taliban takeover of the country would be "inevitable." The president explicitly said that Americans would not see images reminiscent of the U.S. evacuation from Vietnam at the end of that war in 1975—when photos of helicopters evacuating people from the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon were widely circulated in the media.

    "The Taliban is not the south—the North Vietnamese army. They're not—they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the—of the United States from Afghanistan.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    an_light Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy an_light

     

    Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.

    And it's a doozy.

    First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.


    In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.

    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    In Trump's eyes, Baradar may have looked a bit like North Korea's Kim Jong Un, the leader he could try to sweet talk and coax, showering him with praise while extracting essentially nothing from him, while drawing attention to himself and his theatrical "boldness".

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    an_light Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy an_light

     

    Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.

    And it's a doozy.

    First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.


    In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.

    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    In Trump's eyes, Baradar may have looked a bit like North Korea's Kim Jong Un, the leader he could try to sweet talk and coax, showering him with praise while extracting essentially nothing from him, while drawing attention to himself and his theatrical "boldness".

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    an_light Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy an_light

     

    Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.

    And it's a doozy.

    First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.


    In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.

    Well this should not be overlooked --- trump freed a political prisoner from Pakistan, and that same man  is the current leader of the entire Taliban offensive against the Afghans.

    Right.  Take Hitler out of prison, negotiate a loser deal,  then set him free.  Nothing bad could come from that, right?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    cut from cnn , By Frida Ghitis ::

    an_light Trump's role in Afghanistan debacle is a doozy an_light

     

    Since Trump is so vocal about Biden's failing, we must look at Trump'srole in this tragedy.

    And it's a doozy.

    First, let's note that the man leading the current Taliban offensive, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar -- the jihadi cleric who may become the next president of Afghanistan or, formally, the Emir of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan -- was being held in Pakistani custody and might still be there were it not for Trump.


    In 2018, the Trump team asked Pakistan to free Baradar so he could travel to Doha for talks.

    Well this should not be overlooked --- trump freed a political prisoner from Pakistan, and that same man  is the current leader of the entire Taliban offensive against the Afghans.

    Right.  Take Hitler out of prison, negotiate a loser deal,  then set him free.  Nothing bad could come from that, right?!

     
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    The man can't even tie his shoes yet alone lead an evacuation. 

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    The man can't even tie his shoes yet alone lead an evacuation. 

     
     
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    the troll is back

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    the troll is back

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