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    What damage to America does the traitor and his party plan for the rest of the year.?

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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2024 - 2:19 PM ET #301

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   The republicans are now mostly to blame for the border problem. Fubah2 is right.  Trump admits political motivation in blocking border deal to deny Biden another legislative accomplishment.  Republicans deserve blame for killing the most conservative border security deal in decades.  A deal approved by US border patrol union because it is better than the status quo.  Myth is that presidents already have the power to fix broken immigration system.  Biden has signed over 500 executive orders which are far more than Trump.  But he cannot change immigration laws and funding.  That power belongs to congress.  Even Trump says he needs congress to pass border legislation because courts struck down his illegal policies.  Title 42 or shutdown of border cannot be revived because of end of pandemic emergency.  Also remain in Mexico policy won't work without Mexico cooperation.  Homeland security department warns restricting border crossings produce huge backlogs and overwhelmed detention facilities. Yep, republican's traitorous actions will be haunting this country for years after their gone.

     Legacy.   Doesn't have to be, but it will.  And it's their own choice.

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     i think they r only going to get worse now   for the forseeable future  thumbs_down

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   The republicans are now mostly to blame for the border problem. Fubah2 is right.  Trump admits political motivation in blocking border deal to deny Biden another legislative accomplishment.  Republicans deserve blame for killing the most conservative border security deal in decades.  A deal approved by US border patrol union because it is better than the status quo.  Myth is that presidents already have the power to fix broken immigration system.  Biden has signed over 500 executive orders which are far more than Trump.  But he cannot change immigration laws and funding.  That power belongs to congress.  Even Trump says he needs congress to pass border legislation because courts struck down his illegal policies.  Title 42 or shutdown of border cannot be revived because of end of pandemic emergency.  Also remain in Mexico policy won't work without Mexico cooperation.  Homeland security department warns restricting border crossings produce huge backlogs and overwhelmed detention facilities. Yep, republican's traitorous actions will be haunting this country for years after their gone.

     Legacy.   Doesn't have to be, but it will.  And it's their own choice.

    @fubah2

     i think they r only going to get worse now   for the forseeable future  thumbs_down

     

     

     
    Rush51
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2024 - 4:45 PM ET #302

    To answer the OP of this thread, we all have no idea as to what further damage to America the traitor and his party plan for the rest of the year.   We do know the traitor (Mr. Joe Biden ) and his ilk (Mayorkas) have intentionally & willfully left the border open since day 1 of his presidency.  I can think of nothing worse than intentionally putting the citizens of this great country at risk. 

     

    ""That"" .....   is treasonous.   peace_5an_light

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    To answer the OP of this thread, we all have no idea as to what further damage to America the traitor and his party plan for the rest of the year.   We do know the traitor (Mr. Joe Biden ) and his ilk (Mayorkas) have intentionally & willfully left the border open since day 1 of his presidency.  I can think of nothing worse than intentionally putting the citizens of this great country at risk. 

     

    ""That"" .....   is treasonous.   peace_5an_light

     
    thirdperson
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2024 - 8:17 PM ET #303

    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

      Barack Obama had 1.7 million illegal migrants come in and deported a ton. Donald Trump had 1.7 million illegal migrants come in  Joe Biden had 8.5 million come in. His first day he started the destruction of the USA with executive orders. How many Trump policies will he put back now,

    Biden administration is unlucky to face worsening global asylum crisis.  Immigration officials have encountered 8 million migrants but that doesn't mean 8 million people entered US.  Actually, 2.3 million people have been released into the US.  Most illegal immigrants enter US legally but overstay their visa.  Under either Obama and Biden, more illegal immigrants have been deported than during Trump administration.  Trump reduced legal immigration but not illegal immigration.  As a result, population of illegal immigrants remained about the same.   Trump's policies cannot be restored because courts have struck them down.  Instead Biden has repeatedly asked for more funding and immigration reforms from congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

      Barack Obama had 1.7 million illegal migrants come in and deported a ton. Donald Trump had 1.7 million illegal migrants come in  Joe Biden had 8.5 million come in. His first day he started the destruction of the USA with executive orders. How many Trump policies will he put back now,

    Biden administration is unlucky to face worsening global asylum crisis.  Immigration officials have encountered 8 million migrants but that doesn't mean 8 million people entered US.  Actually, 2.3 million people have been released into the US.  Most illegal immigrants enter US legally but overstay their visa.  Under either Obama and Biden, more illegal immigrants have been deported than during Trump administration.  Trump reduced legal immigration but not illegal immigration.  As a result, population of illegal immigrants remained about the same.   Trump's policies cannot be restored because courts have struck them down.  Instead Biden has repeatedly asked for more funding and immigration reforms from congress.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2024 - 8:33 PM ET #304

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Biden ) and his ilk (Mayorkas) have intentionally left the border open since day 1 of his presidency. ""That"" .....   is treasonous.

    US doesn't have an open border policy.  Barriers, surveillance technology and border patrol agents work to secure borders.  Immigration is not an invasion under the law.  Being an illegal immigrant is not a crime.  No president has power to shut down entire border and asylum claims unless there is a national emergency.  Nor automatically force universal deportation for anyone caught in the US illegally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Biden ) and his ilk (Mayorkas) have intentionally left the border open since day 1 of his presidency. ""That"" .....   is treasonous.

    US doesn't have an open border policy.  Barriers, surveillance technology and border patrol agents work to secure borders.  Immigration is not an invasion under the law.  Being an illegal immigrant is not a crime.  No president has power to shut down entire border and asylum claims unless there is a national emergency.  Nor automatically force universal deportation for anyone caught in the US illegally.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2024 - 11:40 PM ET #305

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    ITS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY WHEN 20,000 CHINEESE MILITARY AGED MEN ENTER AND NO RECORDS ARE PROVIDED FOR THEM NOR WILL CHINA TAKE THEM BACK. NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!

     

    IT TOOK 19 TERRORISTS TO KILL NEARLY 3,000 AMERICANS ON 9/11. NEED I SAY MORE?

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    @thirdperson

     

    ITS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY WHEN 20,000 CHINEESE MILITARY AGED MEN ENTER AND NO RECORDS ARE PROVIDED FOR THEM NOR WILL CHINA TAKE THEM BACK. NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!

     

    IT TOOK 19 TERRORISTS TO KILL NEARLY 3,000 AMERICANS ON 9/11. NEED I SAY MORE?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2024 - 11:48 PM ET #306

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   The republicans are now mostly to blame for the border problem. Fubah2 is right.  Trump admits political motivation in blocking border deal to deny Biden another legislative accomplishment.  Republicans deserve blame for killing the most conservative border security deal in decades.  A deal approved by US border patrol union because it is better than the status quo.

     

    Yep, republican's traitorous actions will be haunting this country for years after their gone.

     Legacy.   Doesn't have to be, but it will.  And it's their own choice.

     

    @fubah2  i think they r only going to get worse now   for the forseeable future

    MAGAS are the tail wagging the dog now so, yep, it's only going to get worse....

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   The republicans are now mostly to blame for the border problem. Fubah2 is right.  Trump admits political motivation in blocking border deal to deny Biden another legislative accomplishment.  Republicans deserve blame for killing the most conservative border security deal in decades.  A deal approved by US border patrol union because it is better than the status quo.

     

    Yep, republican's traitorous actions will be haunting this country for years after their gone.

     Legacy.   Doesn't have to be, but it will.  And it's their own choice.

     

    @fubah2  i think they r only going to get worse now   for the forseeable future

    MAGAS are the tail wagging the dog now so, yep, it's only going to get worse....

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 12:25 AM ET #307

    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

      ITS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY WHEN 20,000 CHINEESE MILITARY AGED MEN ENTER AND NO RECORDS ARE PROVIDED FOR THEM NOR WILL CHINA TAKE THEM BACK. NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!   IT TOOK 19 TERRORISTS TO KILL NEARLY 3,000 AMERICANS ON 9/11.

    Term "military aged men" is misleading.  Politifact found no evidence showing immigrants from China are coming to the US at the direction of the military.  Under the law, immigration is not an invasion.  Also not recognized as a national emergency such as natural disaster, civil unrest, war or pandemic.  According to FBI, domestic terrorism from far right extremists is a far greater threat than foreign terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

      ITS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY WHEN 20,000 CHINEESE MILITARY AGED MEN ENTER AND NO RECORDS ARE PROVIDED FOR THEM NOR WILL CHINA TAKE THEM BACK. NATIONAL EMERGENCY!!!   IT TOOK 19 TERRORISTS TO KILL NEARLY 3,000 AMERICANS ON 9/11.

    Term "military aged men" is misleading.  Politifact found no evidence showing immigrants from China are coming to the US at the direction of the military.  Under the law, immigration is not an invasion.  Also not recognized as a national emergency such as natural disaster, civil unrest, war or pandemic.  According to FBI, domestic terrorism from far right extremists is a far greater threat than foreign terrorism.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 12:46 AM ET #308

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Biden ) and his ilk (Mayorkas) have intentionally left the border open since day 1 of his presidency. ""That"" .....   is treasonous. US doesn't have an open border policy.  Barriers, surveillance technology and border patrol agents work to secure borders.  Immigration is not an invasion under the law.  Being an illegal immigrant is not a crime.  No president has power to shut down entire border and asylum claims unless there is a national emergency.  Nor automatically force universal deportation for anyone caught in the US illegally.

    Biden...... doesn't.....,,. Have,..... an..... open ..... door.......policy.

    Say no more  !!!!!   You've discredited yourself forever . peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Biden ) and his ilk (Mayorkas) have intentionally left the border open since day 1 of his presidency. ""That"" .....   is treasonous. US doesn't have an open border policy.  Barriers, surveillance technology and border patrol agents work to secure borders.  Immigration is not an invasion under the law.  Being an illegal immigrant is not a crime.  No president has power to shut down entire border and asylum claims unless there is a national emergency.  Nor automatically force universal deportation for anyone caught in the US illegally.

    Biden...... doesn't.....,,. Have,..... an..... open ..... door.......policy.

    Say no more  !!!!!   You've discredited yourself forever . peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 1:27 AM ET #309

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Term "military aged men" is misleading.  Politifact found no evidence showing immigrants from China are coming to the US at the direction of the military.  Under the law, immigration is not an invasion.  Also not recognized as a national emergency such as natural disaster, civil unrest, war or pandemic.  According to FBI, domestic terrorism from far right extremists is a far greater threat than foreign terrorism.

    goodpost

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Term "military aged men" is misleading.  Politifact found no evidence showing immigrants from China are coming to the US at the direction of the military.  Under the law, immigration is not an invasion.  Also not recognized as a national emergency such as natural disaster, civil unrest, war or pandemic.  According to FBI, domestic terrorism from far right extremists is a far greater threat than foreign terrorism.

    goodpost

     
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    ‘My Own Line Turned Around And Sacked Me’:
    James Lankford Hasn’t Forgotten The Border Bill Debacle Caused by the GOP


    HUFFPOST -
    Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) is using a sports metaphor
    to describe what happened to him when his fellow
    Republicans, with the urging of disgraced former President
    Donald Trump, rejected a carefully negotiated border security
    and foreign aid bill in early February.

    “When I called the play as the quarterback that day,
    and my own line turned around and sacked me,
    that was definitely a surprise to me. Because
    everybody was fully aware what the play call was,”
    Lankford said in an appearance this week before
    the conservative Ripon Society in Washington, D.C.

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    ‘My Own Line Turned Around And Sacked Me’:
    James Lankford Hasn’t Forgotten The Border Bill Debacle Caused by the GOP


    HUFFPOST -
    Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) is using a sports metaphor
    to describe what happened to him when his fellow
    Republicans, with the urging of disgraced former President
    Donald Trump, rejected a carefully negotiated border security
    and foreign aid bill in early February.

    “When I called the play as the quarterback that day,
    and my own line turned around and sacked me,
    that was definitely a surprise to me. Because
    everybody was fully aware what the play call was,”
    Lankford said in an appearance this week before
    the conservative Ripon Society in Washington, D.C.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2024 - 5:41 PM ET #311

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    ‘My Own Line Turned Around And Sacked Me’: James Lankford Hasn’t Forgotten The Border Bill Debacle Caused by the GOP HUFFPOST -Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) is using a sports metaphor to describe what happened to him when his fellow Republicans, with the urging of disgraced former President Donald Trump, rejected a carefully negotiated border security and foreign aid bill in early February. “When I called the play as the quarterback that day, and my own line turned around and sacked me, that was definitely a surprise to me. Because everybody was fully aware what the play call was,” Lankford said in an appearance this week before the conservative Ripon Society in Washington, D.C.

    now that the magas sacked the popular border bill    its hard to say what if anything they will do

    certainly nothing positive for america

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    ‘My Own Line Turned Around And Sacked Me’: James Lankford Hasn’t Forgotten The Border Bill Debacle Caused by the GOP HUFFPOST -Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) is using a sports metaphor to describe what happened to him when his fellow Republicans, with the urging of disgraced former President Donald Trump, rejected a carefully negotiated border security and foreign aid bill in early February. “When I called the play as the quarterback that day, and my own line turned around and sacked me, that was definitely a surprise to me. Because everybody was fully aware what the play call was,” Lankford said in an appearance this week before the conservative Ripon Society in Washington, D.C.

    now that the magas sacked the popular border bill    its hard to say what if anything they will do

    certainly nothing positive for america

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2024 - 9:19 PM ET #312

    Federal judge sentencing a Jan. 6 rioter worries deranged Trump could spur another violent attack


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    violent attack in the lead-up to or aftermath of
    the 2024 presidential election.

    U.S. District Judge Rudy Contreras voiced those concerns while sentencing Jeffrey Sabol, a Colorado geophysicist, to 63 months, or more than five years, in federal prison. Sabol had told the FBI that he believed there was no question the election was stolen and that Dominion voting machines had been tampered with. Sabol also told the FBI he was filled with “patriotic rage” on Jan. 6, that a “call to battle was announced” and that he “answered the call because he was a patriot warrior.”

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    Federal judge sentencing a Jan. 6 rioter worries deranged Trump could spur another violent attack


    WASHINGTON —
    A federal judge who has overseen numerous
    criminal cases against Donald Trump supporters
    who viciously assaulted police officers during the
    Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol expressed concern
    during a sentencing hearing Thursday that the
    disgraced former president could trigger another
    violent attack in the lead-up to or aftermath of
    the 2024 presidential election.

    U.S. District Judge Rudy Contreras voiced those concerns while sentencing Jeffrey Sabol, a Colorado geophysicist, to 63 months, or more than five years, in federal prison. Sabol had told the FBI that he believed there was no question the election was stolen and that Dominion voting machines had been tampered with. Sabol also told the FBI he was filled with “patriotic rage” on Jan. 6, that a “call to battle was announced” and that he “answered the call because he was a patriot warrior.”

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Decomposing Joe went on a talk show & tried to blame Trump for the border crisis.....again. It's an insult to true Americans that know what Biden did in his first days as Prez.

     

    Until we see what Trump does on his next term, many will doubt and insist he is Orangeman Hitler. When he wins and moves the economy again, energy independence again, helps the farmers and vets again, settles the World unrest with the wars again and gets crime back to reality again. That is when they will see Trump for his love of Country and one of the greatest President we ever had.

    The man needs for nothing and could easily fade off into the sunset as one of the top 500 richest people in the World. He choose to take on the swamp and the swamp is terrified of this man. I do hope he picks a incredible DOJ AG and they expose the massive corruption both Red and Blue.

    God Bless the USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Decomposing Joe went on a talk show & tried to blame Trump for the border crisis.....again. It's an insult to true Americans that know what Biden did in his first days as Prez.

     

    Until we see what Trump does on his next term, many will doubt and insist he is Orangeman Hitler. When he wins and moves the economy again, energy independence again, helps the farmers and vets again, settles the World unrest with the wars again and gets crime back to reality again. That is when they will see Trump for his love of Country and one of the greatest President we ever had.

    The man needs for nothing and could easily fade off into the sunset as one of the top 500 richest people in the World. He choose to take on the swamp and the swamp is terrified of this man. I do hope he picks a incredible DOJ AG and they expose the massive corruption both Red and Blue.

    God Bless the USA

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Federal judge sentencing a Jan. 6 rioter worries deranged Trump could spur another violent attack WASHINGTON — A federal judge who has overseen numerous criminal cases against Donald Trump supporters who viciously assaulted police officers during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol expressed concern during a sentencing hearing Thursday that the disgraced former president could trigger another violent attack in the lead-up to or aftermath of the 2024 presidential election. U.S. District Judge Rudy Contreras voiced those concerns while sentencing Jeffrey Sabol, a Colorado geophysicist, to 63 months, or more than five years, in federal prison. Sabol had told the FBI that he believed there was no question the election was stolen and that Dominion voting machines had been tampered with. Sabol also told the FBI he was filled with “patriotic rage” on Jan. 6, that a “call to battle was announced” and that he “answered the call because he was a patriot warrior.”

    Contreras said that the deranged Trump and his accomplices had “spurred” the attack on the Capitol, saying he was worried that the lunatic Sabol would respond once again if a similar “call” was issued.

    "It doesn't take much imagination to imagine a similar call coming out in the coming months," Contreras said Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Federal judge sentencing a Jan. 6 rioter worries deranged Trump could spur another violent attack WASHINGTON — A federal judge who has overseen numerous criminal cases against Donald Trump supporters who viciously assaulted police officers during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol expressed concern during a sentencing hearing Thursday that the disgraced former president could trigger another violent attack in the lead-up to or aftermath of the 2024 presidential election. U.S. District Judge Rudy Contreras voiced those concerns while sentencing Jeffrey Sabol, a Colorado geophysicist, to 63 months, or more than five years, in federal prison. Sabol had told the FBI that he believed there was no question the election was stolen and that Dominion voting machines had been tampered with. Sabol also told the FBI he was filled with “patriotic rage” on Jan. 6, that a “call to battle was announced” and that he “answered the call because he was a patriot warrior.”

    Contreras said that the deranged Trump and his accomplices had “spurred” the attack on the Capitol, saying he was worried that the lunatic Sabol would respond once again if a similar “call” was issued.

    "It doesn't take much imagination to imagine a similar call coming out in the coming months," Contreras said Thursday.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2024 - 10:42 PM ET #315

    @fubah2

     "Deranged Trump" Now that was funny!

    new_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_laugh_cry

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    @fubah2

     "Deranged Trump" Now that was funny!

    new_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_laugh_cry

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    He choose to take on the swamp and the swamp is terrified of this man. I do hope he picks a incredible DOJ AG and they expose the massive corruption both Red and Blue.

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government. He surrounds himself with liars and crooks. No other president has so many associates indicted, convicted or guilty of crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    He choose to take on the swamp and the swamp is terrified of this man. I do hope he picks a incredible DOJ AG and they expose the massive corruption both Red and Blue.

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government. He surrounds himself with liars and crooks. No other president has so many associates indicted, convicted or guilty of crimes.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2024 - 1:13 PM ET #317

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history. 

    That and being ranked officially as the worst president in our lifetime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history. 

    That and being ranked officially as the worst president in our lifetime!

     
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    @fubah2

     Love that John Wayne pick. Did not think you'd pick that seeings the history.

     

     

    John Wayne was a very conservative Republican who would have been completely comfortable in Donald Trump's MAGA. I don't simply mean that he was conservative. He and Ronald Reagan were longtime friends and he supported Reagan in his 1980 presidential campaign.

    Even though they were both conservatives Wayne was far more of a nationalist of both the civil and ethnic variety. He was notoriously racist, with strong and extremely objectionable views about the setting of the west, Native American genocide, and white supremacy. In an infamous Playboy magazine interview he said that he was a white supremacist and that Native Americans were “selfis” to not readily give up their land without a fight.

    Overall, Wayne gives the appearance of being extremely opinionated without much information or having anyone ever stand up to him. He seemed to believe the propaganda of his own image and movies. Amusingly macho without much cause, not terribly intelligent, and extremely entitled.

    John Wayne was a strong supporter and personal friend of Richard Nixon, supporting him in 1960 and again in 1968. He strongly supported Barry Goldwater in 1964. He initially supported Ronald Reagan in his 1976 primary challenge to sitting president Gerald Ford. After Reagan dropped out of the race he endorsed and supported Ford. In 1980, he supported Ronald Reagan. Wayne died of cancer on June 11, 1979 before the election. I suspect that he would have supported George H.W. Bush but without a great deal of enthusiasm. I'm certain he would have actively campaigned against Bill Clinton.

     

    Dave Summers - Political historian

     

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    @fubah2

     Love that John Wayne pick. Did not think you'd pick that seeings the history.

     

     

    John Wayne was a very conservative Republican who would have been completely comfortable in Donald Trump's MAGA. I don't simply mean that he was conservative. He and Ronald Reagan were longtime friends and he supported Reagan in his 1980 presidential campaign.

    Even though they were both conservatives Wayne was far more of a nationalist of both the civil and ethnic variety. He was notoriously racist, with strong and extremely objectionable views about the setting of the west, Native American genocide, and white supremacy. In an infamous Playboy magazine interview he said that he was a white supremacist and that Native Americans were “selfis” to not readily give up their land without a fight.

    Overall, Wayne gives the appearance of being extremely opinionated without much information or having anyone ever stand up to him. He seemed to believe the propaganda of his own image and movies. Amusingly macho without much cause, not terribly intelligent, and extremely entitled.

    John Wayne was a strong supporter and personal friend of Richard Nixon, supporting him in 1960 and again in 1968. He strongly supported Barry Goldwater in 1964. He initially supported Ronald Reagan in his 1976 primary challenge to sitting president Gerald Ford. After Reagan dropped out of the race he endorsed and supported Ford. In 1980, he supported Ronald Reagan. Wayne died of cancer on June 11, 1979 before the election. I suspect that he would have supported George H.W. Bush but without a great deal of enthusiasm. I'm certain he would have actively campaigned against Bill Clinton.

     

    Dave Summers - Political historian

     

     
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    Rankings an_roll_laugh

     

    trump is a 16 seed making the final four...going to be funny if that happens....I could give two shits either way because both are horrendous but a rankings comeback is hilarious....an_roll_laugh

     

    Who cares about presidential rankings....maybe historians but I don't see the relevance at all...way to tell himconfused

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    Rankings an_roll_laugh

     

    trump is a 16 seed making the final four...going to be funny if that happens....I could give two shits either way because both are horrendous but a rankings comeback is hilarious....an_roll_laugh

     

    Who cares about presidential rankings....maybe historians but I don't see the relevance at all...way to tell himconfused

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2024 - 2:12 PM ET #320

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last

     

    yep   #45

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last

     

    yep   #45

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last

    yep   #45 out of 45

    an_roll_laugh

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last

    yep   #45 out of 45

    an_roll_laugh

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2024 - 2:32 PM ET #322

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government. He surrounds himself with liars and crooks. No other president has so many associates and accomplices indicted, convicted or guilty of crimes.
    Word!  peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Trump is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government. He surrounds himself with liars and crooks. No other president has so many associates and accomplices indicted, convicted or guilty of crimes.
    Word!  peace_5

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2024 - 3:04 PM ET #323

    @fubah2

     

    @witswits

     

    John Wayne was a very conservative Republican who would have been completely comfortable in Donald Trump's MAGA. I don't simply mean that he was conservative. He and Ronald Reagan were longtime friends and he supported Reagan in his 1980 presidential campaign.

    Even though they were both conservatives Wayne was far more of a nationalist of both the civil and ethnic variety. He was notoriously racist, with strong and extremely objectionable views about the setting of the west, Native American genocide, and white supremacy. In an infamous Playboy magazine interview he said that he was a white supremacist and that Native Americans were “selfis” to not readily give up their land without a fight.

    Overall, Wayne gives the appearance of being extremely opinionated without much information or having anyone ever stand up to him. He seemed to believe the propaganda of his own image and movies. Amusingly macho without much cause, not terribly intelligent, and extremely entitled.

    John Wayne was a strong supporter and personal friend of Richard Nixon, supporting him in 1960 and again in 1968. He strongly supported Barry Goldwater in 1964. He initially supported Ronald Reagan in his 1976 primary challenge to sitting president Gerald Ford. After Reagan dropped out of the race he endorsed and supported Ford. In 1980, he supported Ronald Reagan. Wayne died of cancer on June 11, 1979 before the election. I suspect that he would have supported George H.W. Bush but without a great deal of enthusiasm. I'm certain he would have actively campaigned against Bill Clinton.

     

    The Pilgrim was a giant piece of shiit homophobic racist.  Fupa is well aware of these facts, but willfully chooses to support the Pilgrim John Wayne.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @fubah2

     

    @witswits

     

    John Wayne was a very conservative Republican who would have been completely comfortable in Donald Trump's MAGA. I don't simply mean that he was conservative. He and Ronald Reagan were longtime friends and he supported Reagan in his 1980 presidential campaign.

    Even though they were both conservatives Wayne was far more of a nationalist of both the civil and ethnic variety. He was notoriously racist, with strong and extremely objectionable views about the setting of the west, Native American genocide, and white supremacy. In an infamous Playboy magazine interview he said that he was a white supremacist and that Native Americans were “selfis” to not readily give up their land without a fight.

    Overall, Wayne gives the appearance of being extremely opinionated without much information or having anyone ever stand up to him. He seemed to believe the propaganda of his own image and movies. Amusingly macho without much cause, not terribly intelligent, and extremely entitled.

    John Wayne was a strong supporter and personal friend of Richard Nixon, supporting him in 1960 and again in 1968. He strongly supported Barry Goldwater in 1964. He initially supported Ronald Reagan in his 1976 primary challenge to sitting president Gerald Ford. After Reagan dropped out of the race he endorsed and supported Ford. In 1980, he supported Ronald Reagan. Wayne died of cancer on June 11, 1979 before the election. I suspect that he would have supported George H.W. Bush but without a great deal of enthusiasm. I'm certain he would have actively campaigned against Bill Clinton.

     

    The Pilgrim was a giant piece of shiit homophobic racist.  Fupa is well aware of these facts, but willfully chooses to support the Pilgrim John Wayne.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2024 - 3:13 PM ET #324

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government.
    True

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government.
    True

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by witswits: He choose to take on the swamp and the swamp is terrified of this man. I do hope he picks a incredible DOJ AG and they expose the massive corruption both Red and Blue. Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government. He surrounds himself with liars and crooks. No other president has so many associates indicted, convicted or guilty of crimes.
    True

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by witswits: He choose to take on the swamp and the swamp is terrified of this man. I do hope he picks a incredible DOJ AG and they expose the massive corruption both Red and Blue. Twice impeached Trump is the most corrupt president in modern history.  He is ranked last in moral authority in C-span survey of presidential experts.  Instead of draining swamp, he fills the swamp in government. He surrounds himself with liars and crooks. No other president has so many associates indicted, convicted or guilty of crimes.
    True

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