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    US treasury Munich withholds appropriations for Puerto Rico

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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 3:30 PM ET #1

    us Congress has approved a 93 million for disaster relief in Puerto Rico but treasury believes they have spent enough the population decrease conservatively will ten percent more mortalities from disease than live births 10 percent of the grid has been restored orcording to Army Corp of engineers furnishing 60 percent of the electrical customers placing mid June as a full grid reinstallment. 

    Treasury now has to wait for congress to mandate funding vs elective funding in new legislation a move I suppose to have Democrats cooperate.... 

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    us Congress has approved a 93 million for disaster relief in Puerto Rico but treasury believes they have spent enough the population decrease conservatively will ten percent more mortalities from disease than live births 10 percent of the grid has been restored orcording to Army Corp of engineers furnishing 60 percent of the electrical customers placing mid June as a full grid reinstallment. 

    Treasury now has to wait for congress to mandate funding vs elective funding in new legislation a move I suppose to have Democrats cooperate.... 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 6:40 PM ET #2

    How much should PR get?

    Well to quote Charlie Schumer......

    NOT ONE PENNY!

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    How much should PR get?

    Well to quote Charlie Schumer......

    NOT ONE PENNY!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 8:08 PM ET #3

    I guess we should be thankful we are real Americans born in a state .

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    I guess we should be thankful we are real Americans born in a state .

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 8:48 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    I guess we should be thankful we are real Americans born in a state .

    As opposed to being real americans born in a territory? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    I guess we should be thankful we are real Americans born in a state .

    As opposed to being real americans born in a territory? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 8:51 PM ET #5

    Puerto Rico was a disaster way before the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria....45 % of Puerto Ricans were living in poverty before the hurricane and island’s economy has been in recession for nearly 10 years, with an high unemployment.. The island is riddled with corruption..when they declared bankruptcy last year they were $70 Billion of debt...

    All that and Puerto Rico doesn't qualify as a shithole country,, only because it's not a country it is a territory..

    Having said all that... let us not forget that Puerto Ricans are US citizens and this is a humanitarian disaster...they need more help  ..America should speed up our relief effort..

    One other thing,, if President Trump inherited this the roaring economy were are experiencing  from Obama ...he also inherited PR from him..
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    Puerto Rico was a disaster way before the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria....45 % of Puerto Ricans were living in poverty before the hurricane and island’s economy has been in recession for nearly 10 years, with an high unemployment.. The island is riddled with corruption..when they declared bankruptcy last year they were $70 Billion of debt...

    All that and Puerto Rico doesn't qualify as a shithole country,, only because it's not a country it is a territory..

    Having said all that... let us not forget that Puerto Ricans are US citizens and this is a humanitarian disaster...they need more help  ..America should speed up our relief effort..

    One other thing,, if President Trump inherited this the roaring economy were are experiencing  from Obama ...he also inherited PR from him..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 9:27 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Puerto Rico was a disaster way before the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria....45 % of Puerto Ricans were living in poverty before the hurricane and island’s economy has been in recession for nearly 10 years, with an high unemployment.. The island is riddled with corruption..when they declared bankruptcy last year they were $70 Billion of debt...

    All that and Puerto Rico doesn't qualify as a shithole country,, only because it's not a country it is a territory..

    Having said all that... let us not forget that Puerto Ricans are US citizens and this is a humanitarian disaster...they need more help  ..America should speed up our relief effort..

    One other thing,, if President Trump inherited this the roaring economy were are experiencing  from Obama ...he also inherited PR from him..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Puerto Rico was a disaster way before the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria....45 % of Puerto Ricans were living in poverty before the hurricane and island’s economy has been in recession for nearly 10 years, with an high unemployment.. The island is riddled with corruption..when they declared bankruptcy last year they were $70 Billion of debt...

    All that and Puerto Rico doesn't qualify as a shithole country,, only because it's not a country it is a territory..

    Having said all that... let us not forget that Puerto Ricans are US citizens and this is a humanitarian disaster...they need more help  ..America should speed up our relief effort..

    One other thing,, if President Trump inherited this the roaring economy were are experiencing  from Obama ...he also inherited PR from him..

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 9:45 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:




    Good in depth post reply..................and you wonder why your wages were down 10% last year..
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:




    Good in depth post reply..................and you wonder why your wages were down 10% last year..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2018 - 9:58 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Good in depth post reply..................and you wonder why your wages were down 10% last year..

    Do you ever get dizzy from all the spinning you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Good in depth post reply..................and you wonder why your wages were down 10% last year..

    Do you ever get dizzy from all the spinning you do?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2018 - 12:16 AM ET #9

    They should be forced to pay federal income taxes before they get a dime 
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    They should be forced to pay federal income taxes before they get a dime 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2018 - 7:20 AM ET #10

    Where my conservative friends seem to bring up our founding fathers disagreements with England. Here might be a shocker we fought the revolutionary war for taxation without representation in parliament. Puerto Rico has no representative vote in the house and senate thus they are exempt from federal  America.We the people’s representative in Congress appropriated 93 billion to rebuild hence 93 billion should be spent. 

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    Where my conservative friends seem to bring up our founding fathers disagreements with England. Here might be a shocker we fought the revolutionary war for taxation without representation in parliament. Puerto Rico has no representative vote in the house and senate thus they are exempt from federal  America.We the people’s representative in Congress appropriated 93 billion to rebuild hence 93 billion should be spent. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2018 - 10:50 AM ET #11

    Nature, do you think they should pay federal income taxes if they want federal taxes to pay to fix their country? 

    Yes or no? 
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    Nature, do you think they should pay federal income taxes if they want federal taxes to pay to fix their country? 

    Yes or no? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2018 - 12:24 PM ET #12

    Will none of the idiots ever learn? This time it is good old Sarasota Slim with another Obama-Trump thing

    “One other thing, if President Trump inherited this the roaring economy were are (we’re or we are, Slim) experiencing  from Obama ...he also inherited PR from him..”

    Puerto Rico has been an American “Commonwealth” (puke) since 1898 and treated like an ugly step-child for 119 years, but; an idiot can always find a way. Good job, Slim. What president of either party has ever done anything positive for Puerto Rico?

    What the U.S. has done to/for a supposed commonwealth (puke) is absolutely nothing. Trump never wanted to help in the first place, after all; he does not own a condominium golf resort there. He has no personal or financial involvement there, no big military installations to throw money at, and that makes Puerto Rico irrelevant and unimportant in the grand scheme of Trump-Republican plans.

    To turn our backs on an essentially American possession because it is a sh/thole commonwealth is just about the height of hubris and immorality. Good job Donald, Schumer, Slim, and all those that can find a way to not punish themselves over this inhumane and immoral treatment of Puerto Rico.  

     

    The amount of taxation derived from Puerto Rico is another irrelevant, self-serving, self-justifying piece of bool-sheet. When people have nothing but poverty in the first place, what are they supposed to pay taxes on? 

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Will none of the idiots ever learn? This time it is good old Sarasota Slim with another Obama-Trump thing

    “One other thing, if President Trump inherited this the roaring economy were are (we’re or we are, Slim) experiencing  from Obama ...he also inherited PR from him..”

    Puerto Rico has been an American “Commonwealth” (puke) since 1898 and treated like an ugly step-child for 119 years, but; an idiot can always find a way. Good job, Slim. What president of either party has ever done anything positive for Puerto Rico?

    What the U.S. has done to/for a supposed commonwealth (puke) is absolutely nothing. Trump never wanted to help in the first place, after all; he does not own a condominium golf resort there. He has no personal or financial involvement there, no big military installations to throw money at, and that makes Puerto Rico irrelevant and unimportant in the grand scheme of Trump-Republican plans.

    To turn our backs on an essentially American possession because it is a sh/thole commonwealth is just about the height of hubris and immorality. Good job Donald, Schumer, Slim, and all those that can find a way to not punish themselves over this inhumane and immoral treatment of Puerto Rico.  

     

    The amount of taxation derived from Puerto Rico is another irrelevant, self-serving, self-justifying piece of bool-sheet. When people have nothing but poverty in the first place, what are they supposed to pay taxes on? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2018 - 12:54 PM ET #13

    There are plenty of people in Puerto Rico that could buy and sell the net worth of your family tree without blinking, you ignorant fool. 




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    There are plenty of people in Puerto Rico that could buy and sell the net worth of your family tree without blinking, you ignorant fool. 




     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2018 - 4:29 PM ET #14

    "Puerto Rico has been an American “Commonwealth” (puke) since 1898 and treated like an ugly step-child for 119 years, but; an idiot can always find a way.."

    1898 to 2018.....120 years ...
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    "Puerto Rico has been an American “Commonwealth” (puke) since 1898 and treated like an ugly step-child for 119 years, but; an idiot can always find a way.."

    1898 to 2018.....120 years ...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2018 - 4:40 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "Puerto Rico has been an American “Commonwealth” (puke) since 1898 and treated like an ugly step-child for 119 years, but; an idiot can always find a way.."1898 to 2018.....120 years ...
    Wrong again Slim. U.S. tropps invaded P.R. on July 25, 1898 and Spain did not officially cede P.R. until April 11, 1899. The earliest American prescence is still less than 200 years. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "Puerto Rico has been an American “Commonwealth” (puke) since 1898 and treated like an ugly step-child for 119 years, but; an idiot can always find a way.."1898 to 2018.....120 years ...
    Wrong again Slim. U.S. tropps invaded P.R. on July 25, 1898 and Spain did not officially cede P.R. until April 11, 1899. The earliest American prescence is still less than 200 years. 

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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2018 - 4:41 PM ET #16

    s still less than 120 years. 

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    s still less than 120 years. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Wrong again Slim. U.S. tropps invaded P.R. on July 25, 1898 and Spain did not officially cede P.R. until April 11, 1899. The earliest American prescence is still less than 200 years. 

     

    For someone who calls others idiots ..you sure have a problem with math and numbers...and you need to drop that extra
    "c" in presence.....you  really need to calm down.. you even s stuttered in your last post..

     Treaty of Paris of 1898 was an agreement made in 1898.. The final treaty was concluded in Paris on December 10, 1898 ..and the United States started flying our flag over their buildings at that time..

    The formal transfer of the island of Puerto Rico to the United States was in 1898 at the end of the Spanish-American War.

    The Changing of the Guard: Puerto Rico in 1898........https://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/bras.html

    U.S. takes control of Puert Rico 1898......https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/u-s-takes-control-of-puerto-rico

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Wrong again Slim. U.S. tropps invaded P.R. on July 25, 1898 and Spain did not officially cede P.R. until April 11, 1899. The earliest American prescence is still less than 200 years. 

     

    For someone who calls others idiots ..you sure have a problem with math and numbers...and you need to drop that extra
    "c" in presence.....you  really need to calm down.. you even s stuttered in your last post..

     Treaty of Paris of 1898 was an agreement made in 1898.. The final treaty was concluded in Paris on December 10, 1898 ..and the United States started flying our flag over their buildings at that time..

    The formal transfer of the island of Puerto Rico to the United States was in 1898 at the end of the Spanish-American War.

    The Changing of the Guard: Puerto Rico in 1898........https://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/1898/bras.html

    U.S. takes control of Puert Rico 1898......https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/u-s-takes-control-of-puerto-rico

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2018 - 7:20 AM ET #18

    All true Slim, but none of it before 1/28/1898, still at 119 years, not 120.

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    All true Slim, but none of it before 1/28/1898, still at 119 years, not 120.

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    Let's face it covers brothers and sistas, a geographical genius our President Dope is NOT.  As recently as October 2017 he refereed to Governor Kenneth Mapp as "President" of the Virgin Islands.

    UMMMMM.  Mr. President, sir, the USA has 14 Territories worldwide and YOU are President of them all.

    If this wasn't so utterly embarrassing it would be laughable. 

     
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    Let's face it covers brothers and sistas, a geographical genius our President Dope is NOT.  As recently as October 2017 he refereed to Governor Kenneth Mapp as "President" of the Virgin Islands.

    UMMMMM.  Mr. President, sir, the USA has 14 Territories worldwide and YOU are President of them all.

    If this wasn't so utterly embarrassing it would be laughable. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2018 - 10:17 AM ET #20


    People PLEASE STOP making excuses for this complete buffoon. 
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    People PLEASE STOP making excuses for this complete buffoon. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2018 - 4:02 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    All true Slim, but none of it before 1/28/1898, still at 119 years, not 120.




    But, then again,If,, by your claim that ...Spain did not officially cede P.R. until April 11, 1899...it would be 118 years not 119 years and definitely nowhere near 200 years..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    All true Slim, but none of it before 1/28/1898, still at 119 years, not 120.




    But, then again,If,, by your claim that ...Spain did not officially cede P.R. until April 11, 1899...it would be 118 years not 119 years and definitely nowhere near 200 years..........
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2018 - 9:48 AM ET #22

    Today is the last day FEMA will distribute food or water in Puerto Rico.... best of luck . Cannabilism should follow soon the other white meat....

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    Today is the last day FEMA will distribute food or water in Puerto Rico.... best of luck . Cannabilism should follow soon the other white meat....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2018 - 9:59 AM ET #23

    Santa muerte fastest growing religion in Puerto Rico... just saying 

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    Santa muerte fastest growing religion in Puerto Rico... just saying 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 11:59 AM ET #24

    Man your obtuse intense. Do they buy petroleum products then they pay feds tax how about cigarettes again fed tax everything that goes there has to come from the United States. And every freighter or airline don’t run on love and it is all federally taxed. Income taxes are mute point they pay social security for retirement. The surpluses go to the general public funds... or is it you like to make some unfair statement wind us up to the point of being in penalty box and get off at the shat show.... 

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    Man your obtuse intense. Do they buy petroleum products then they pay feds tax how about cigarettes again fed tax everything that goes there has to come from the United States. And every freighter or airline don’t run on love and it is all federally taxed. Income taxes are mute point they pay social security for retirement. The surpluses go to the general public funds... or is it you like to make some unfair statement wind us up to the point of being in penalty box and get off at the shat show.... 

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 5:02 PM ET #25

    Seems USA wants to fix The worlds problems. We can not even provide for our citizens. We can not seem to control corruption here. 

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    Seems USA wants to fix The worlds problems. We can not even provide for our citizens. We can not seem to control corruption here. 

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