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    nature1970
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 12:13 AM ET #1

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html

    Cnn.

    Reports.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html

    Cnn.

    Reports.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html

     
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    The United States said that Ukraine likely did conduct a successful attack against Russian ships in Berdiansk, according to a defense official, though it is unclear what type of weapon or weapons were used in the attack. It echoes a similar statement from the British Ministry of Defence, which said that Ukrainian forces have attacked "high value targets" in Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, including a landing ship and ammunition depots at Berdyansk.

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    The United States said that Ukraine likely did conduct a successful attack against Russian ships in Berdiansk, according to a defense official, though it is unclear what type of weapon or weapons were used in the attack. It echoes a similar statement from the British Ministry of Defence, which said that Ukrainian forces have attacked "high value targets" in Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, including a landing ship and ammunition depots at Berdyansk.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2022 - 12:29 AM ET #3

    British missles

    LONDON — Britain’s Type 45 destroyer is to be fitted with a new short-range anti-air missile as part of a wider weapons capability upgrade, which includes updates to the warship’s long-range weapon and the associated command-and-control system.

    The boost to the Type 45's fire power will see missile-maker MBDA UK integrate its Common Anti-Air Modular Missile, or CAMM, into an upgraded Sea Viper command-and-control system used by the warship.

    The Royal Navy also has its own air-to-surface anti-ship missiles, delivered by the Wildcat HMA helicopters in the Fleet Air Arm (FAA.) This missile system is Sea Venom.Feb 17, 2022

    It can be transfered to mobile heavy truck systems.

     

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    British missles

    LONDON — Britain’s Type 45 destroyer is to be fitted with a new short-range anti-air missile as part of a wider weapons capability upgrade, which includes updates to the warship’s long-range weapon and the associated command-and-control system.

    The boost to the Type 45's fire power will see missile-maker MBDA UK integrate its Common Anti-Air Modular Missile, or CAMM, into an upgraded Sea Viper command-and-control system used by the warship.

    The Royal Navy also has its own air-to-surface anti-ship missiles, delivered by the Wildcat HMA helicopters in the Fleet Air Arm (FAA.) This missile system is Sea Venom.Feb 17, 2022

    It can be transfered to mobile heavy truck systems.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2022 - 8:39 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html Cnn. Reports. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html

     

    with new weapon systems of shore to ship missle launchers   they may b able to do much more !

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html Cnn. Reports. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html

     

    with new weapon systems of shore to ship missle launchers   they may b able to do much more !

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2022 - 5:18 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html Cnn. Reports. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html  

    with new weapon systems of shore to ship missle launchers   they may b able to do much more !

    New weapon system??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html Cnn. Reports. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html  

    with new weapon systems of shore to ship missle launchers   they may b able to do much more !

    New weapon system??

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html Cnn. Reports. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html   with new weapon systems of shore to ship missle launchers   they may b able to do much more ! New weapon system??

    Probably an old system that's new to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html Cnn. Reports. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.htmlhttps://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-berdyansk-intl/index.html   with new weapon systems of shore to ship missle launchers   they may b able to do much more ! New weapon system??

    Probably an old system that's new to them.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2022 - 5:29 PM ET #8

    United kingdom anti ship missile system.

    Harpoon anti ship system is ship to ship.

    The Harpoon anti-ship missile is fitted to all Type 23 frigates and three Type 45 destroyers in a 2×4 canister configuration. Another two destroyers are fitted for but not with the missiles. The missile is a capable of striking at targets more than 80 miles (130 km) away and is also used by many other NATO navies.[14] The Harpoon was due to go out of service by the end of 2018. However, this has subsequently been revised to at least 2023.[15] As of August 2021, it was reported that, given the age of the Harpoon system, only two Royal Navy destroyers or frigates were carrying a full complement of 8 Harpoon missiles per ship. These were the frigates HMS Kent and HMS Montrose.[16

    The martlet system is surface to surface surface to sea. 

    The Martlet is a lightweight air-to-surface and surface-to-surface missile under development by Thales Air Defence for the United Kingdom. As of 2021, Martlet is entering service on the Fleet Air Arm's AgustaWestland AW159 Wildcat in the air-to-surface mode with up to twenty Martlet missiles envisaged for deployment on a single Wildcat helicopter. The missile is intended to counter light fast attack boats.[17]

    The Martlet has also been tested in the surface-to-surface mode on the Type 23 frigate, using a launcher mounted on the side of the 30 mm cannon, as a relatively inexpensive missile to use against small craft and unmanned aerial vehicles.

    Sea venom is a helicopter mounted air to ship missile system i.

    The Sea Venom is a helicopter-launched lightweight anti-ship missile developed by MBDA to replace the Sea Skua. Sea Venom missiles were reported deployed with Royal Navy Wildcat helicopters operating as part of the Royal Navy's carrier strike group in 2021.[18] The missile weighs 110 kg (240 lb) and has a warhead of 30 kg (66 lb). It is optimized to attack fast inshore attack craft (FIAC), however it can also damage targets up to corvette size.[19]

    Sourcehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Royal_Navy_weapon_systems

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    United kingdom anti ship missile system.

    Harpoon anti ship system is ship to ship.

    The Harpoon anti-ship missile is fitted to all Type 23 frigates and three Type 45 destroyers in a 2×4 canister configuration. Another two destroyers are fitted for but not with the missiles. The missile is a capable of striking at targets more than 80 miles (130 km) away and is also used by many other NATO navies.[14] The Harpoon was due to go out of service by the end of 2018. However, this has subsequently been revised to at least 2023.[15] As of August 2021, it was reported that, given the age of the Harpoon system, only two Royal Navy destroyers or frigates were carrying a full complement of 8 Harpoon missiles per ship. These were the frigates HMS Kent and HMS Montrose.[16

    The martlet system is surface to surface surface to sea. 

    The Martlet is a lightweight air-to-surface and surface-to-surface missile under development by Thales Air Defence for the United Kingdom. As of 2021, Martlet is entering service on the Fleet Air Arm's AgustaWestland AW159 Wildcat in the air-to-surface mode with up to twenty Martlet missiles envisaged for deployment on a single Wildcat helicopter. The missile is intended to counter light fast attack boats.[17]

    The Martlet has also been tested in the surface-to-surface mode on the Type 23 frigate, using a launcher mounted on the side of the 30 mm cannon, as a relatively inexpensive missile to use against small craft and unmanned aerial vehicles.

    Sea venom is a helicopter mounted air to ship missile system i.

    The Sea Venom is a helicopter-launched lightweight anti-ship missile developed by MBDA to replace the Sea Skua. Sea Venom missiles were reported deployed with Royal Navy Wildcat helicopters operating as part of the Royal Navy's carrier strike group in 2021.[18] The missile weighs 110 kg (240 lb) and has a warhead of 30 kg (66 lb). It is optimized to attack fast inshore attack craft (FIAC), however it can also damage targets up to corvette size.[19]

    Sourcehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Royal_Navy_weapon_systems

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2022 - 5:43 PM ET #9

     https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/

    The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence.

    The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports.

    Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world.

    The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles

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     https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/

    The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence.

    The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports.

    Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world.

    The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/ The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence. The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports. Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world. The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles

     

    No word yet if this was the system that heavily damaged the Russian's black sea fleet's flag ship yesterday.    If not, then the addition of those Harpoons will only make the Ukrainian defenses significantly stronger!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/ The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence. The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports. Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world. The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles

     

    No word yet if this was the system that heavily damaged the Russian's black sea fleet's flag ship yesterday.    If not, then the addition of those Harpoons will only make the Ukrainian defenses significantly stronger!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/ The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence. The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports. Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world. The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles   No word yet if this was the system that heavily damaged the Russian's black sea fleet's flag ship yesterday.    If not, then the addition of those Harpoons will only make the Ukrainian defenses significantly stronger!

     

    Misread your notes.  I see the Harpoons are just ship to ship. not shore to ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/ The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence. The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports. Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world. The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles   No word yet if this was the system that heavily damaged the Russian's black sea fleet's flag ship yesterday.    If not, then the addition of those Harpoons will only make the Ukrainian defenses significantly stronger!

     

    Misread your notes.  I see the Harpoons are just ship to ship. not shore to ship.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/ The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence. The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports. Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world. The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles   No word yet if this was the system that heavily damaged the Russian's black sea fleet's flag ship yesterday.    If not, then the addition of those Harpoons will only make the Ukrainian defenses significantly stronger!

     

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: https://tickernews.co/uk-to-send-game-changer-anti-ship-harpoon-missiles-to-ukraine-but-what-are-they/ The Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile developed and manufactured by Boeing Defence. The UK will send the Harpoon missiles in a bid to break the Russian navy’s siege of Black Sea ports. Fitted with a 500lb high explosive blast warhead, the system is carried by 600 Nato warships and 180 submarines around the world. The 15ft missiles are accurate to a range of 80 miles   No word yet if this was the system that heavily damaged the Russian's black sea fleet's flag ship yesterday.    If not, then the addition of those Harpoons will only make the Ukrainian defenses significantly stronger!

     

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

     

     
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    When the Russian missiles rain down from our skies you chicken hawks will be soiling yourselves. What a bunch of looney tunes...

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    When the Russian missiles rain down from our skies you chicken hawks will be soiling yourselves. What a bunch of looney tunes...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

    @baish2012    not just evacuated        IT SUNK !!!  an_2drinks

    bye bye russian flagship

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

    @baish2012    not just evacuated        IT SUNK !!!  an_2drinks

    bye bye russian flagship

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

     

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

     

     

    @baish2012    not just evacuated        IT SUNK !!!  an_2drinks

    bye bye russian flagship

    an_cheers    Cruise missiles!  

    More to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

     

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

     

     

    @baish2012    not just evacuated        IT SUNK !!!  an_2drinks

    bye bye russian flagship

    an_cheers    Cruise missiles!  

    More to come

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

     

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

     

     

    @baish2012    not just evacuated        IT SUNK !!!  an_2drinks

    bye bye russian flagship

    Booooyyyaaahh  an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     

     

    The Russian Defense Ministry claimed the Moskva, Russia's Black Sea flagship, was evacuated  an_cheers

     

     

    @baish2012    not just evacuated        IT SUNK !!!  an_2drinks

    bye bye russian flagship

    Booooyyyaaahh  an_cheers

     
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    Russia's propaganda network state TV and heavily controlled media are stating it was not Ukrainian missiles that sunk her but an unfortunate fire that got out of control and ignighted munitions.

    an_light And yet, other nearby Russian warships immediately moved further off coast into the open seas (out of range of missiles)

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    Russia's propaganda network state TV and heavily controlled media are stating it was not Ukrainian missiles that sunk her but an unfortunate fire that got out of control and ignighted munitions.

    an_light And yet, other nearby Russian warships immediately moved further off coast into the open seas (out of range of missiles)

     
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    With air craft such as stealth mirage or f_35. 

    and anti ship missiles

     the black sea isn't far enough off shore.... 

    Long range cruise missiles can be fired from subs such as north Korean demonstrated . 

    Or from heavy truck platforms. But they are sitting ducks without patriot defense systems.

     

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    With air craft such as stealth mirage or f_35. 

    and anti ship missiles

     the black sea isn't far enough off shore.... 

    Long range cruise missiles can be fired from subs such as north Korean demonstrated . 

    Or from heavy truck platforms. But they are sitting ducks without patriot defense systems.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    With air craft such as stealth mirage or f_35.  and anti ship missiles  the black sea isn't far enough off shore....  Long range cruise missiles can be fired from subs such as north Korean demonstrated .  Or from heavy truck platforms. But they are sitting ducks without patriot defense systems.

     

    While that is true, moving far off shore gives those ships with long range radar the ability to detect incoming missile attacks with more time to respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    With air craft such as stealth mirage or f_35.  and anti ship missiles  the black sea isn't far enough off shore....  Long range cruise missiles can be fired from subs such as north Korean demonstrated .  Or from heavy truck platforms. But they are sitting ducks without patriot defense systems.

     

    While that is true, moving far off shore gives those ships with long range radar the ability to detect incoming missile attacks with more time to respond.

     
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    So how about some of these.

    https://www.military.com/equipment/agm-129-advanced-cruise-missile

    Contractor: Raytheon Missile Systems

    Power Plant: Williams International Corp. F-112-WR-100 turbofan engine

    Thrust: 700+ lbs

    Length: 20 ft, 10 in

    Weight: 3,500 pounds

    Diameter: 29 in

    Wingspan: 10 ft, 2 in

    Range: 2,000+ miles 

    And they are cloaked in stealth technology.

     

     

     

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    So how about some of these.

    https://www.military.com/equipment/agm-129-advanced-cruise-missile

    Contractor: Raytheon Missile Systems

    Power Plant: Williams International Corp. F-112-WR-100 turbofan engine

    Thrust: 700+ lbs

    Length: 20 ft, 10 in

    Weight: 3,500 pounds

    Diameter: 29 in

    Wingspan: 10 ft, 2 in

    Range: 2,000+ miles 

    And they are cloaked in stealth technology.

     

     

     

     
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    AGM-129A advanced cruise missile is a stealth, nuclear-capable cruise missile used exclusively by U.S. Air Force B-52H Stratofortress strategic bombers.

    The AGM-129A is a subsonic, turbofan-powered, air-launched cruise missile. It is harder to detect, and has greater range and accuracy than the AGM-86 air-launched cruise missile. The ACM achieves maximum range through its highly efficient engine, aerodynamics and fuel loading. B-52H bombers can carry up to six AGM-129A missiles on each of two external pylons for a total of 12 per aircraft. When the threat is deep and heavily defended, the AGM-129 delivers the proven effectiveness of a cruise missile enhanced by stealth technology. Launched in quantities against enemy targets, the ACM's difficulty to detect, flight characteristics and range result in high probability that enemy targets will be eliminated.

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    AGM-129A advanced cruise missile is a stealth, nuclear-capable cruise missile used exclusively by U.S. Air Force B-52H Stratofortress strategic bombers.

    The AGM-129A is a subsonic, turbofan-powered, air-launched cruise missile. It is harder to detect, and has greater range and accuracy than the AGM-86 air-launched cruise missile. The ACM achieves maximum range through its highly efficient engine, aerodynamics and fuel loading. B-52H bombers can carry up to six AGM-129A missiles on each of two external pylons for a total of 12 per aircraft. When the threat is deep and heavily defended, the AGM-129 delivers the proven effectiveness of a cruise missile enhanced by stealth technology. Launched in quantities against enemy targets, the ACM's difficulty to detect, flight characteristics and range result in high probability that enemy targets will be eliminated.

     
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    More Soviet ships at the bottom of the black sea.....

     https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-destroyed-russian-ships-black-sea-snake-island-video-1702557

      drone destroyed two Russian Raptor-class patrol ships near Snake Island on Monday, Ukraine's military chief said.

     

     

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    More Soviet ships at the bottom of the black sea.....

     https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-destroyed-russian-ships-black-sea-snake-island-video-1702557

      drone destroyed two Russian Raptor-class patrol ships near Snake Island on Monday, Ukraine's military chief said.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    More Soviet ships at the bottom of the black sea.....  https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-destroyed-russian-ships-black-sea-snake-island-video-1702557   drone destroyed two Russian Raptor-class patrol ships near Snake Island on Monday, Ukraine's military chief said.

     

    peace_5  The left and center, here and around the world, support Ukraine's fight against fascism!

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    More Soviet ships at the bottom of the black sea.....  https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-destroyed-russian-ships-black-sea-snake-island-video-1702557   drone destroyed two Russian Raptor-class patrol ships near Snake Island on Monday, Ukraine's military chief said.

     

    peace_5  The left and center, here and around the world, support Ukraine's fight against fascism!

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    The left and center, here and around the world, support Ukraine's fight against fascism!

     

    Second Russian Warship Struck by Ukraine: Reports

    Another Russian naval ship in the Black Sea was hit and left burning by the Ukrainian military, according to unconfirmed reports.

    The Admiral Makarov, a 409-foot Russian frigate, was sailing close to Snake Island in the Black Sea, off the coast of the Ukrainian port city of Odessa, when it was reportedly hit by an R-360 Neptune anti-ship missile fired from the Ukrainian mainland.

     

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    The left and center, here and around the world, support Ukraine's fight against fascism!

     

    Second Russian Warship Struck by Ukraine: Reports

    Another Russian naval ship in the Black Sea was hit and left burning by the Ukrainian military, according to unconfirmed reports.

    The Admiral Makarov, a 409-foot Russian frigate, was sailing close to Snake Island in the Black Sea, off the coast of the Ukrainian port city of Odessa, when it was reportedly hit by an R-360 Neptune anti-ship missile fired from the Ukrainian mainland.

     

     
     
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    How long before America is attacked for weaponizing the Ukrainians??? Shortchanged by the Lord and dumber than a jackass. Why don't you go to the Ukraine and join up if you are so anxious to fight in their war??? We both know why don't we??? 

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    How long before America is attacked for weaponizing the Ukrainians??? Shortchanged by the Lord and dumber than a jackass. Why don't you go to the Ukraine and join up if you are so anxious to fight in their war??? We both know why don't we??? 

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