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    jimrockford22
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2021 - 10:49 PM ET #51

    "lie...  lie .... lie ..... lie.. every day"

    "i didn't lie"

    "indisputable proof you lied"

    "fake media"........ and "kamala harris made up some story that was TOLD TO HER by her family"

    worried about having a mentally deranged person as president...... but no lets focus on petty stuff like KH plagarism and AC "olive garden" comment.

    for full disclosure. i was not happy with AC and that comment.. seemed very condescending, unnecessary and didn't achieve anything.

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    "lie...  lie .... lie ..... lie.. every day"

    "i didn't lie"

    "indisputable proof you lied"

    "fake media"........ and "kamala harris made up some story that was TOLD TO HER by her family"

    worried about having a mentally deranged person as president...... but no lets focus on petty stuff like KH plagarism and AC "olive garden" comment.

    for full disclosure. i was not happy with AC and that comment.. seemed very condescending, unnecessary and didn't achieve anything.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2021 - 11:45 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Google bans 'Parler' 

    apple also bans  the terroristsupporting parler app

     

    add amazon to the list

     

    the terroristsupporting 'parler' is homeless

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Google bans 'Parler' 

    apple also bans  the terroristsupporting parler app

     

    add amazon to the list

     

    the terroristsupporting 'parler' is homeless

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2021 - 11:59 PM ET #53

    not a good day for deplorables.

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    not a good day for deplorables.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 12:43 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Google bans 'Parler'  apple also bans  the terroristsupporting parler app   add amazon to the list   the terroristsupporting 'parler' is homeless

    If you had pictures of Jeff Bezos.... doin' some "happy" stuff, how much would you charge him for the pictures? A billion dollars? You think he'd have you killed? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Google bans 'Parler'  apple also bans  the terroristsupporting parler app   add amazon to the list   the terroristsupporting 'parler' is homeless

    If you had pictures of Jeff Bezos.... doin' some "happy" stuff, how much would you charge him for the pictures? A billion dollars? You think he'd have you killed? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 12:47 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    not a good day for deplorables.

     

    the roundup of the republican terrorists is well underway

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    not a good day for deplorables.

     

    the roundup of the republican terrorists is well underway

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 11:08 AM ET #56

    I loathe Trump.

     

    But banning him is NOT the way forward.

    It's okay to remove tweets/statuses if they incite to violence.

    This shows how bad it is that we have given Twitter/FB etc. the total power of our right to speak. These companies must be regulated.

    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

    Trump included.

     

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    I loathe Trump.

     

    But banning him is NOT the way forward.

    It's okay to remove tweets/statuses if they incite to violence.

    This shows how bad it is that we have given Twitter/FB etc. the total power of our right to speak. These companies must be regulated.

    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

    Trump included.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 11:13 AM ET #57

    Free press allowed press owners to publish or not publish without censorship these are private companies who own these social media platforms.

    If Trump wants to publish material on a social media account then buy or create a platform.

    But for a government to intervene on a private companies internal deacisions of their media press would be a violation of the 1st amendment. 

     

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    Free press allowed press owners to publish or not publish without censorship these are private companies who own these social media platforms.

    If Trump wants to publish material on a social media account then buy or create a platform.

    But for a government to intervene on a private companies internal deacisions of their media press would be a violation of the 1st amendment. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 11:26 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Danelaw:

    I loathe Trump.   But banning him is NOT the way forward. It's okay to remove tweets/statuses if they incite to violence. This shows how bad it is that we have given Twitter/FB etc. the total power of our right to speak. These companies must be regulated. "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Trump included.

    In principle you're right, freedom of speech is a key stone of democracy.

    But, trump as a head of state should be held to higher standards, his lies the last 4 years have caused enormous damage. When a head of state betrays his oath of office, and by continually lying imo he has, something needs to be done. Should have been done years ago though. 

    CPL XIX Winner. Punter. Scotch lover. Big Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danelaw:

    I loathe Trump.   But banning him is NOT the way forward. It's okay to remove tweets/statuses if they incite to violence. This shows how bad it is that we have given Twitter/FB etc. the total power of our right to speak. These companies must be regulated. "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Trump included.

    In principle you're right, freedom of speech is a key stone of democracy.

    But, trump as a head of state should be held to higher standards, his lies the last 4 years have caused enormous damage. When a head of state betrays his oath of office, and by continually lying imo he has, something needs to be done. Should have been done years ago though. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 11:29 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by BooBunny:

    America is in the beginning stages of a failing Democracy. I say this with great humility as I have a daughter whose life will not be nearly as successful and enjoyable as mine. The political system in this country is polarized beyond repair. Social...television and print media no longer report truth on either side. They report ideology and seek to polarize people to make larger profits. Facts are meaningless in the media on both sides.   IMO what the left is doing now is very dangerous. They are punishing someone who currently believes the same thing as they believed 4 years ago...that the election was illigitimate. I may be old but didn't the Dems make a failed attempt to contest the election of Trump in 2016 and Bush in 2000 and now they are advocating throwing people out of Congress for doing the same thing?? Now that they have almost unchecked power...they are attempting to cancel the 1st amendment. They somehow believe that they know what the truth is and any opposing view should be canceled and anyone who disagrees with them should have their lives destroyed. It feels good right now but in the long run it will destroy their movement and possibly the country through Civil War. Virtually all Democracies end in this type of fashion. Fortunately...I am old enough to have experienced much in life and am retiring from 30+ years of govt. service soon.  The current groundswell seeks to destroy the history of the greatest country in the world and replace it with a Utopian view of what they believe the world should be like. Very dangerous. Virtually every immigrant in the world wants to come to a country where half of it preaches it is a horrible...reprehensible place that must be fundamentally changed. I challenge anyone saying this to go spend 6 months in Afghanistan...Pakistan...Syria or Somalia and then tell us how bad of a place America is. But like I said at the beginning of this thread...Democracies fail from within not from outside and I believe unfortunately ours is beginning to fail. And the winners in this mess will be the biggest of companies...Amazon...Walmart...Facebook etc who will end up with monopolies in concert with a government run system. Good luck to all of us. We're going to need it.

     

    an_lightpeace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by BooBunny:

    America is in the beginning stages of a failing Democracy. I say this with great humility as I have a daughter whose life will not be nearly as successful and enjoyable as mine. The political system in this country is polarized beyond repair. Social...television and print media no longer report truth on either side. They report ideology and seek to polarize people to make larger profits. Facts are meaningless in the media on both sides.   IMO what the left is doing now is very dangerous. They are punishing someone who currently believes the same thing as they believed 4 years ago...that the election was illigitimate. I may be old but didn't the Dems make a failed attempt to contest the election of Trump in 2016 and Bush in 2000 and now they are advocating throwing people out of Congress for doing the same thing?? Now that they have almost unchecked power...they are attempting to cancel the 1st amendment. They somehow believe that they know what the truth is and any opposing view should be canceled and anyone who disagrees with them should have their lives destroyed. It feels good right now but in the long run it will destroy their movement and possibly the country through Civil War. Virtually all Democracies end in this type of fashion. Fortunately...I am old enough to have experienced much in life and am retiring from 30+ years of govt. service soon.  The current groundswell seeks to destroy the history of the greatest country in the world and replace it with a Utopian view of what they believe the world should be like. Very dangerous. Virtually every immigrant in the world wants to come to a country where half of it preaches it is a horrible...reprehensible place that must be fundamentally changed. I challenge anyone saying this to go spend 6 months in Afghanistan...Pakistan...Syria or Somalia and then tell us how bad of a place America is. But like I said at the beginning of this thread...Democracies fail from within not from outside and I believe unfortunately ours is beginning to fail. And the winners in this mess will be the biggest of companies...Amazon...Walmart...Facebook etc who will end up with monopolies in concert with a government run system. Good luck to all of us. We're going to need it.

     

    an_lightpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 12:39 PM ET #60

     Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.  Some restrictions are legitimate.   According to 1st amendment,  not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud, real threat and speech in criminal conduct.  Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with baseless accusations and inciting of violence.

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     Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.  Some restrictions are legitimate.   According to 1st amendment,  not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud, real threat and speech in criminal conduct.  Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with baseless accusations and inciting of violence.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2021 - 12:52 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.  Some restrictions are legitimate.   According to 1st amendment,  not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud, real threat and speech in criminal conduct.  Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with baseless accusations and inciting of violence.

    AGREED.

    There are "reasonable" restrictions to free speech and Freedom of Expression,

    and there SHOULD BE! peace

    United States free speech exceptions
    Wikipedia:   https://tinyurl.com/kjuyxdd

     

    1  Incitement
    The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when
    it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or
    produce such action"
    Additionally, if a "clear and present danger" is present, could justify a law limiting speech.

    2  False statements of fact
    The Supreme Court has established a complex framework for determining which types
    of false statements are NOT protected by the first Amendment:
    1/  false statements of fact that are said with a "sufficiently culpable mental state"
    2/  knowingly making a false statement of fact. Libel, defamation, and slander laws
    3/  negligently false statements of fact may lead to civil liability in some instances.
    4/  some implicit statements of fact—those that have a "false factual connotation"
    5/  Perjury

    3  Obscenity
    The basis for this exception is that justices have believed that obscenity has a
    "tendency to exert a corrupting and debasing impact leading to antisocial behavior"

    4  Child pornography
                        This should be self-evident.

    5  Fighting words
    Fighting words, as defined by the Court, is speech that "tends to incite an immediate
    breach of the peace" by provoking a fight, so long as it is a "personally abusive which,
    when addressed to the ordinary citizen, is, as a matter of common knowledge,
    inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction"

    6  Threatening the President of the United States
    " This also applies to any "President-elect, Vice President or other officer next
    in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect."
    (Nancy Pelosi is 2nd in line behind the President)

    7  Speech owned by others
                      copyrights, trademarks, or plagiarism

    8  Commercial speech
                      ie, false advertising

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.  Some restrictions are legitimate.   According to 1st amendment,  not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud, real threat and speech in criminal conduct.  Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with baseless accusations and inciting of violence.

    AGREED.

    There are "reasonable" restrictions to free speech and Freedom of Expression,

    and there SHOULD BE! peace

    United States free speech exceptions
    Wikipedia:   https://tinyurl.com/kjuyxdd

     

    1  Incitement
    The Supreme Court has held that "advocacy of the use of force" is unprotected when
    it is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action" and is "likely to incite or
    produce such action"
    Additionally, if a "clear and present danger" is present, could justify a law limiting speech.

    2  False statements of fact
    The Supreme Court has established a complex framework for determining which types
    of false statements are NOT protected by the first Amendment:
    1/  false statements of fact that are said with a "sufficiently culpable mental state"
    2/  knowingly making a false statement of fact. Libel, defamation, and slander laws
    3/  negligently false statements of fact may lead to civil liability in some instances.
    4/  some implicit statements of fact—those that have a "false factual connotation"
    5/  Perjury

    3  Obscenity
    The basis for this exception is that justices have believed that obscenity has a
    "tendency to exert a corrupting and debasing impact leading to antisocial behavior"

    4  Child pornography
                        This should be self-evident.

    5  Fighting words
    Fighting words, as defined by the Court, is speech that "tends to incite an immediate
    breach of the peace" by provoking a fight, so long as it is a "personally abusive which,
    when addressed to the ordinary citizen, is, as a matter of common knowledge,
    inherently likely to provoke a violent reaction"

    6  Threatening the President of the United States
    " This also applies to any "President-elect, Vice President or other officer next
    in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect."
    (Nancy Pelosi is 2nd in line behind the President)

    7  Speech owned by others
                      copyrights, trademarks, or plagiarism

    8  Commercial speech
                      ie, false advertising

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2021 - 6:40 PM ET #62

    @Danelaw

     I agree as I posted earlier, I'm more afraid that we may driven him "underground" on the dark web or whatever and not know what he's thinking or saying to his faithful which can be more dangerous to society 

    Gotta go pee!
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    @Danelaw

     I agree as I posted earlier, I'm more afraid that we may driven him "underground" on the dark web or whatever and not know what he's thinking or saying to his faithful which can be more dangerous to society 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2021 - 6:47 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.  Some restrictions are legitimate.  

    According to 1st amendment,  not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud, real threat and speech in criminal conduct.  Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with baseless accusations and inciting of violence.

     

    Precisely!

    The larger threat to our democracy is trump and trumpism,  not that **PRIVATE** companies are enacting THEIR RIGHTS to restrict what goes on THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

    If anything, enacting MORE GOVERNMENT to take away the RIGHTS of private companies is much more worrisome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.  Some restrictions are legitimate.  

    According to 1st amendment,  not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud, real threat and speech in criminal conduct.  Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with baseless accusations and inciting of violence.

     

    Precisely!

    The larger threat to our democracy is trump and trumpism,  not that **PRIVATE** companies are enacting THEIR RIGHTS to restrict what goes on THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

    If anything, enacting MORE GOVERNMENT to take away the RIGHTS of private companies is much more worrisome.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2021 - 7:48 PM ET #64

    Parler is homeless now

    LOL

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    Parler is homeless now

    LOL

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 9:37 AM ET #65

    Douche Bank won't do any more business with Trump an_light

    London (CNN Business) Deutsche Bank will no longer do business with Donald Trump,
    a move that will cut off his business from a major source of loans that once helped
    fund his golf courses and hotels.

    The move is the latest example of corporate backlash against the president
    after trump incited a riot that left five people dead.

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    Douche Bank won't do any more business with Trump an_light

    London (CNN Business) Deutsche Bank will no longer do business with Donald Trump,
    a move that will cut off his business from a major source of loans that once helped
    fund his golf courses and hotels.

    The move is the latest example of corporate backlash against the president
    after trump incited a riot that left five people dead.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2021 - 11:00 PM ET #66

    NBC
    Twitter has permanently banned Donald Trump and taken particular aim at
    users who promote QAnon.
    Twitter said Monday that it has suspended 70,000 accounts since the riots.

    Social media platforms that had allowed the QAnon conspiracy theory to flourish
    are moving to ban accounts that spread its evidence-free claims.

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    NBC
    Twitter has permanently banned Donald Trump and taken particular aim at
    users who promote QAnon.
    Twitter said Monday that it has suspended 70,000 accounts since the riots.

    Social media platforms that had allowed the QAnon conspiracy theory to flourish
    are moving to ban accounts that spread its evidence-free claims.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2021 - 11:19 PM ET #67

    Snapchat also *permanently* bans Donald Trump

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    Snapchat also *permanently* bans Donald Trump

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2021 - 12:39 AM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Snapchat also *permanently* bans Donald Trump

    What about IG? I know that man appreciates a good IG fitness thot.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Snapchat also *permanently* bans Donald Trump

    What about IG? I know that man appreciates a good IG fitness thot.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2021 - 1:33 PM ET #69

    .

     

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    .

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2021 - 8:09 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.
    Some restrictions are legitimate.
    According to 1st amendment, not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud,
    real threat and speech in criminal conduct.
    Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with
    baseless accusations and inciting of violence.ce.

                 an_light  peace_5

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Although free speech is a fundamental right, it is not absolute.
    Some restrictions are legitimate.
    According to 1st amendment, not protected exceptions include obscenity, fraud,
    real threat and speech in criminal conduct.
    Trump is a threat to democracy by undermining fair election with
    baseless accusations and inciting of violence.ce.

                 an_light  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2021 - 8:22 PM ET #71

    'THEY want to take your speech away,'
    censorship cry unites Trump morons
    and deluded extremists after Capitol attack

    USA TODAY
    Anger over perceived censorship by social media companies is bridging the divide
    between far-right extremist groups and Trump supporters.
    And that growing solidarity could increase the likelihood of violence over the weekend
    and on Inauguration Day, researchers who study hate and extremism warn.

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    'THEY want to take your speech away,'
    censorship cry unites Trump morons
    and deluded extremists after Capitol attack

    USA TODAY
    Anger over perceived censorship by social media companies is bridging the divide
    between far-right extremist groups and Trump supporters.
    And that growing solidarity could increase the likelihood of violence over the weekend
    and on Inauguration Day, researchers who study hate and extremism warn.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2021 - 4:23 AM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    'THEY want to take your speech away,' censorship cry unites Trump morons and deluded extremists after Capitol attack USA TODAYAnger over perceived censorship by social media companies is bridging the divide between far-right extremist groups and Trump supporters.And that growing solidarity could increase the likelihood of violence over the weekend and on Inauguration Day, researchers who study hate and extremism warn.

     

    rumplickers  r  ratcheting up their hate  just so they can take out their frustrations at losing fair and square

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    'THEY want to take your speech away,' censorship cry unites Trump morons and deluded extremists after Capitol attack USA TODAYAnger over perceived censorship by social media companies is bridging the divide between far-right extremist groups and Trump supporters.And that growing solidarity could increase the likelihood of violence over the weekend and on Inauguration Day, researchers who study hate and extremism warn.

     

    rumplickers  r  ratcheting up their hate  just so they can take out their frustrations at losing fair and square

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2021 - 4:24 PM ET #73

    any sign of rump infesting another popular social media site ??

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    any sign of rump infesting another popular social media site ??

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2021 - 4:53 PM ET #74

    .

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    .

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2021 - 6:34 PM ET #75

    Please don't ban anymore Twitter Facebook Instagram til tok or like accounts.

    Most of the FBI cases center around these idiots posts.

    Allow them to post more and often.

    No fixing stupid and teal time Facebook evidence is what going to convict the idiots.

    Moral don't post information on social media that you feel might be used against you in a court of law.

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    Please don't ban anymore Twitter Facebook Instagram til tok or like accounts.

    Most of the FBI cases center around these idiots posts.

    Allow them to post more and often.

    No fixing stupid and teal time Facebook evidence is what going to convict the idiots.

    Moral don't post information on social media that you feel might be used against you in a court of law.

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