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    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2023 - 3:17 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Trump’s GOP and the Democratic Party differences ?? 

     

    said this bfor and will state the facts again ::

    if it looks like a duck

    walks like a duck 

    swims and flies like a duck

    and quacks like a duck ,

                       democrats say "its a DUCK !"

     

    sad....but republicans will insist its an elephant   >>> if donnie chump says so

     

    that is the real difference between the current parties

    Precisely what we have witnessed since 2017, up to and including today

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Trump’s GOP and the Democratic Party differences ?? 

     

    said this bfor and will state the facts again ::

    if it looks like a duck

    walks like a duck 

    swims and flies like a duck

    and quacks like a duck ,

                       democrats say "its a DUCK !"

     

    sad....but republicans will insist its an elephant   >>> if donnie chump says so

     

    that is the real difference between the current parties

    Precisely what we have witnessed since 2017, up to and including today

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2023 - 1:58 AM ET #27

    @Zeus4par

     

     its odd how it really truly does capture the whole essence of the contrast dont u think ?  win

     

    sad though

    for the millions of maga dummies who allow themselves to fall under the cult spell and ignore inconvenient truths like they do daily

     

     

     

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    @Zeus4par

     

     its odd how it really truly does capture the whole essence of the contrast dont u think ?  win

     

    sad though

    for the millions of maga dummies who allow themselves to fall under the cult spell and ignore inconvenient truths like they do daily

     

     

     

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2023 - 5:51 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    @Zeus4par    its odd how it really truly does capture the whole essence of the contrast dont u think ?     sad though for the millions of maga dummies who allow themselves to fall under the cult spell and ignore inconvenient truths like they do daily

    There are a lot of good people on the republican side.   They are vastly outnumbered in their own party but still there are a lot of them.  The critical problem for most republicans (including the good ones)  is where they choose to get their news.  Fox News being their worst hindrance to objectivity and comprehensive reporting.  Not implying other sources are perfect.  Far from it.  But Fox is the worst by far and this is playing out in the courts as we speak!  Their own people agree it is not a news media but mostly a partisan propaganda arm strictly for ideological conservative and anti-Democrat views.  Fox News truly is a disgrace but it's the channel of choice by almost all republicans.  Which leads directly to mass ignorance of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but.  They simply refuse to allow facts to get in the way of their partisan rhetoric, no matter what.  That is the main problem and it causes untenable division.

    I think it was our resident fact checker, Thirdperson, who posted information some time ago (last year?) about research involving FOX viewers being paid to watch CNN for several weeks. As I recall vaguely, a sizable portion of those Fox viewers saw things differently after that and even seemed less inclined to believe everything spouted on Fox.  Something like that.

    They should do a similar research the other way, where normal citizens who watch cable but not Fox, are then paid to watch Fox News for a few weeks (if they can stomach the constant stream of partisan MAGA rhetoric) and see if their views are changed any.  My guess is the few who would survive the ordeal would most likely condemn Fox while reaffirming in their minds that all other major TV news sources are better less biased, less partisan, and much more likely to display all the key facts including those with opposing views.  Just a guess though.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    @Zeus4par    its odd how it really truly does capture the whole essence of the contrast dont u think ?     sad though for the millions of maga dummies who allow themselves to fall under the cult spell and ignore inconvenient truths like they do daily

    There are a lot of good people on the republican side.   They are vastly outnumbered in their own party but still there are a lot of them.  The critical problem for most republicans (including the good ones)  is where they choose to get their news.  Fox News being their worst hindrance to objectivity and comprehensive reporting.  Not implying other sources are perfect.  Far from it.  But Fox is the worst by far and this is playing out in the courts as we speak!  Their own people agree it is not a news media but mostly a partisan propaganda arm strictly for ideological conservative and anti-Democrat views.  Fox News truly is a disgrace but it's the channel of choice by almost all republicans.  Which leads directly to mass ignorance of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but.  They simply refuse to allow facts to get in the way of their partisan rhetoric, no matter what.  That is the main problem and it causes untenable division.

    I think it was our resident fact checker, Thirdperson, who posted information some time ago (last year?) about research involving FOX viewers being paid to watch CNN for several weeks. As I recall vaguely, a sizable portion of those Fox viewers saw things differently after that and even seemed less inclined to believe everything spouted on Fox.  Something like that.

    They should do a similar research the other way, where normal citizens who watch cable but not Fox, are then paid to watch Fox News for a few weeks (if they can stomach the constant stream of partisan MAGA rhetoric) and see if their views are changed any.  My guess is the few who would survive the ordeal would most likely condemn Fox while reaffirming in their minds that all other major TV news sources are better less biased, less partisan, and much more likely to display all the key facts including those with opposing views.  Just a guess though.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2023 - 3:16 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    There are a lot of good people on the republican side.   They are vastly outnumbered in their own party but still there are a lot of them.  The critical problem for most republicans (including the good ones)  is where they choose to get their news.  Fox News being their worst hindrance to objectivity and comprehensive reporting.  Not implying other sources are perfect.  Far from it.  But Fox is the worst by far and this is playing out in the courts as we speak!  Their own people agree it is not a news media but mostly a partisan propaganda arm strictly for ideological conservative and anti-Democrat views.  Fox News truly is a disgrace but it's the channel of choice by almost all republicans.  Which leads directly to mass ignorance of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but.  They simply refuse to allow facts to get in the way of their partisan rhetoric, no matter what.  That is the main problem and it causes untenable division.

    I think it was our resident fact checker, Thirdperson, who posted information some time ago (last year?) about research involving FOX viewers being paid to watch CNN for several weeks. As I recall vaguely, a sizable portion of those Fox viewers saw things differently after that and even seemed less inclined to believe everything spouted on Fox.  Something like that.

    They should do a similar research the other way, where normal citizens who watch cable but not Fox, are then paid to watch Fox News for a few weeks (if they can stomach the constant stream of partisan MAGA rhetoric) and see if their views are changed any.  My guess is the few who would survive the ordeal would most likely condemn Fox while reaffirming in their minds that all other major TV news sources are better less biased, less partisan, and much more likely to display all the key facts including those with opposing views.  Just a guess though.

    Yes, it was an informal study but the conclusions were relevent and significant

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    There are a lot of good people on the republican side.   They are vastly outnumbered in their own party but still there are a lot of them.  The critical problem for most republicans (including the good ones)  is where they choose to get their news.  Fox News being their worst hindrance to objectivity and comprehensive reporting.  Not implying other sources are perfect.  Far from it.  But Fox is the worst by far and this is playing out in the courts as we speak!  Their own people agree it is not a news media but mostly a partisan propaganda arm strictly for ideological conservative and anti-Democrat views.  Fox News truly is a disgrace but it's the channel of choice by almost all republicans.  Which leads directly to mass ignorance of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but.  They simply refuse to allow facts to get in the way of their partisan rhetoric, no matter what.  That is the main problem and it causes untenable division.

    I think it was our resident fact checker, Thirdperson, who posted information some time ago (last year?) about research involving FOX viewers being paid to watch CNN for several weeks. As I recall vaguely, a sizable portion of those Fox viewers saw things differently after that and even seemed less inclined to believe everything spouted on Fox.  Something like that.

    They should do a similar research the other way, where normal citizens who watch cable but not Fox, are then paid to watch Fox News for a few weeks (if they can stomach the constant stream of partisan MAGA rhetoric) and see if their views are changed any.  My guess is the few who would survive the ordeal would most likely condemn Fox while reaffirming in their minds that all other major TV news sources are better less biased, less partisan, and much more likely to display all the key facts including those with opposing views.  Just a guess though.

    Yes, it was an informal study but the conclusions were relevent and significant

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 3:28 PM ET #30

    Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.

     He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor. peace_5

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    Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.

     He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 3:40 PM ET #31

    And you guys sprinkle powdered sugar on his asshole and then lick it with each and every mention of his name .

    It’s repulsive .

    No wonder nothing gets done in this country .

    You guys are just a bunch of one trick ponies . Stop playing these fascination games . It’s unsettling , and frankly it speaks very loudly that you are afraid of declaring your own thoughts , or of implementing your own ideas .

    And you are simply using Trump as a scapegoat , and focusing all of your attention on his diabolical evil instead of having to face your own .

    Yes , we get it . He’s done so many things wrong that I’ve lost count . So let’s move forward and leave that douchebag behind . It’s dragging down the momentum .

    ok . Whew . I’m glad that that’s out of the way . Now whaddaya got ? Who wants to start ?

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    And you guys sprinkle powdered sugar on his asshole and then lick it with each and every mention of his name .

    It’s repulsive .

    No wonder nothing gets done in this country .

    You guys are just a bunch of one trick ponies . Stop playing these fascination games . It’s unsettling , and frankly it speaks very loudly that you are afraid of declaring your own thoughts , or of implementing your own ideas .

    And you are simply using Trump as a scapegoat , and focusing all of your attention on his diabolical evil instead of having to face your own .

    Yes , we get it . He’s done so many things wrong that I’ve lost count . So let’s move forward and leave that douchebag behind . It’s dragging down the momentum .

    ok . Whew . I’m glad that that’s out of the way . Now whaddaya got ? Who wants to start ?

    an_speak

     
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    Bueller ? Bueller ?

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Bueller ? Bueller ?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 5:06 PM ET #33

    Please delete me from this thread! I don’t follow you or subscribe!

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    Please delete me from this thread! I don’t follow you or subscribe!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2023 - 5:08 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.  He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor.

     

    exactly     there is more to add     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.  He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor.

     

    exactly     there is more to add     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2023 - 9:12 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.  He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor.

    And a jury has declared he is guilty of sexual assault. an_clap

    Much more to come....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.  He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor.

    And a jury has declared he is guilty of sexual assault. an_clap

    Much more to come....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2023 - 6:23 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.  He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor. And a jury has declared he is guilty of sexual assault. Much more to come....

     

    next year or maybe early 2025    a jury could likelyfind that the GOP figurehead who is also the head of the trump crime family to be guilty of far more than just a repulsive sex offender

    his lawyers     if he can find any to replace the three who recently quit in disgust     will surely look for various ways to delay any legal reckoning for more than a year or possibly 2 yrs

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Crime boss Trump's plan is working......the division & destruction of American institutions is moving along swiftly.  He is a convicted tax fraud, insurrection-inciter, serial liar, coward & a traitor. And a jury has declared he is guilty of sexual assault. Much more to come....

     

    next year or maybe early 2025    a jury could likelyfind that the GOP figurehead who is also the head of the trump crime family to be guilty of far more than just a repulsive sex offender

    his lawyers     if he can find any to replace the three who recently quit in disgust     will surely look for various ways to delay any legal reckoning for more than a year or possibly 2 yrs

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2023 - 5:38 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party. 

    Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show.

    @joe pockets

    Headlines today . . .

    The Democrat side today...

    an_clap    •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers!
    thumbs_up  •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!
    an_speak  •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!
    an_angel  •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!

     

    Meanwhile, on the republican side...

    an_getaway • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week.thejester
    an_punch • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk!
    an_laugh• Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party. 

    Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show.

    @joe pockets

    Headlines today . . .

    The Democrat side today...

    an_clap    •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers!
    thumbs_up  •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!
    an_speak  •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!
    an_angel  •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!

     

    Meanwhile, on the republican side...

    an_getaway • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week.thejester
    an_punch • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk!
    an_laugh• Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    And you guys sprinkle powdered sugar on his asshole and then lick it with each and every mention of his name . It’s repulsive . No wonder nothing gets done in this country . You guys are just a bunch of one trick ponies . Stop playing these fascination games . It’s unsettling , and frankly it speaks very loudly that you are afraid of declaring your own thoughts , or of implementing your own ideas . And you are simply using Trump as a scapegoat , and focusing all of your attention on his diabolical evil instead of having to face your own . Yes , we get it . He’s done so many things wrong that I’ve lost count . So let’s move forward and leave that douchebag behind . It’s dragging down the momentum . ok . Whew . I’m glad that that’s out of the way . Now whaddaya got ? Who wants to start ?

    an_speak

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    And you guys sprinkle powdered sugar on his asshole and then lick it with each and every mention of his name . It’s repulsive . No wonder nothing gets done in this country . You guys are just a bunch of one trick ponies . Stop playing these fascination games . It’s unsettling , and frankly it speaks very loudly that you are afraid of declaring your own thoughts , or of implementing your own ideas . And you are simply using Trump as a scapegoat , and focusing all of your attention on his diabolical evil instead of having to face your own . Yes , we get it . He’s done so many things wrong that I’ve lost count . So let’s move forward and leave that douchebag behind . It’s dragging down the momentum . ok . Whew . I’m glad that that’s out of the way . Now whaddaya got ? Who wants to start ?

    an_speak

     
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    Fubah your thoughts if you have any ?

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    Fubah your thoughts if you have any ?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party.  Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show. @joe pockets Headlines today . . . The Democrat side today...     •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers!  •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!   •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!   •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!   Meanwhile, on the republican side... • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week. • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk! • Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!

      that contrast  says it all

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party.  Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show. @joe pockets Headlines today . . . The Democrat side today...     •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers!  •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!   •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!   •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!   Meanwhile, on the republican side... • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week. • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk! • Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!

      that contrast  says it all

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party.  Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show. @joe pockets Headlines today . . . The Democrat side today...     •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers!  •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!   •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!   •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!   Meanwhile, on the republican side... • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week. • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk! • Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!

      that contrast  says it all

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party.  Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show. @joe pockets Headlines today . . . The Democrat side today...     •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers!  •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!   •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!   •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!   Meanwhile, on the republican side... • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week. • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk! • Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!

      that contrast  says it all

     
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    No bump and thumping please peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    No bump and thumping please peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party.  Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show. @joe pockets Headlines today . . . The Democrat side today...    

    •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers! 

    •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!  

    •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!  

    •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!  

     

    Meanwhile, on the republican side...

    • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week.

    • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk!

    • Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!  

    that contrast  says it all

    @KellyM_1964  Republicans side is completely dysfunctional, once again.  But I believe after the fascist who wants to be king departs from the living they will eventually come around to sanity again.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Trump is exposing a sick underbelly of the republican party.  Eisenhower is rotating his grave” looking at this S___Show. @joe pockets Headlines today . . . The Democrat side today...    

    •  Biden administration announces charges, sanctions to crack down on China-based fentanyl traffickers! 

    •  Laphonza Butler, openly gay Black woman, sworn in to replace Feinstein, becoming only third Black female senator in U.S. history!  

    •  Biden administration announces price negotiations for 10 key drugs, as promised!  

    •  The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness!  

     

    Meanwhile, on the republican side...

    • CHAOS reigns supreme in republican house, as a handful of right-wing extremist republicans submit motion to vacate House Speakership and succeed in ousting their own leader in historic but chaotic showdown...then they flee the Capitol for a week.

    • republican party defacto leader rebuked and issued gag order during his MASSIVE FRAUD trial for attacking an innocent female court clerk!

    • Trump knocked off Forbes list after 'relentless lies' about alleged wealth!  

    that contrast  says it all

    @KellyM_1964  Republicans side is completely dysfunctional, once again.  But I believe after the fascist who wants to be king departs from the living they will eventually come around to sanity again.

     

     
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    relating to the thread subject header ,an obvious difference between the rump gop and democratic party is the good guys have a leader while the pro-fascism party is running around like a chicken with it's head cut off desperately searching for anyone likeable enough in their own party to b installed as leader

     

    that leader will then beg the american people to ignore all that they r witnessing today and vote for his party next fall

    an_roll_laugh

     

     

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    relating to the thread subject header ,an obvious difference between the rump gop and democratic party is the good guys have a leader while the pro-fascism party is running around like a chicken with it's head cut off desperately searching for anyone likeable enough in their own party to b installed as leader

     

    that leader will then beg the american people to ignore all that they r witnessing today and vote for his party next fall

    an_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    thejester  Frontrunner Rep. Tom Emmer QUITS House speaker race

     

                                  an_popcorn

    The Minnesota Republican had emerged Tuesday afternoon as House Republicans’ new speaker nominee in the scramble to succeed Kevin McCarthy. But with a razor-thin GOP majority in the House, Emmer can only afford to lose four Republicans, and 26 voted against him behind closed doors.

    And despite a phone call with Trump over the weekend, the disgraced & indicted former president has posted negative messages about Emmer on his Truth Social platform in recent days.

    Several Republicans who oppose Emmer told CNN Tuesday they will not change their stance and are calling for a new candidate.

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    thejester  Frontrunner Rep. Tom Emmer QUITS House speaker race

     

                                  an_popcorn

    The Minnesota Republican had emerged Tuesday afternoon as House Republicans’ new speaker nominee in the scramble to succeed Kevin McCarthy. But with a razor-thin GOP majority in the House, Emmer can only afford to lose four Republicans, and 26 voted against him behind closed doors.

    And despite a phone call with Trump over the weekend, the disgraced & indicted former president has posted negative messages about Emmer on his Truth Social platform in recent days.

    Several Republicans who oppose Emmer told CNN Tuesday they will not change their stance and are calling for a new candidate.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Frontrunner Rep. Tom Emmer QUITS House speaker race                                 The Minnesota Republican had emerged Tuesday afternoon as House Republicans’ new speaker nominee in the scramble to succeed Kevin McCarthy. But with a razor-thin GOP majority in the House, Emmer can only afford to lose four Republicans, and 26 voted against him behind closed doors. And despite a phone call with Trump over the weekend, the disgraced & indicted former president has posted negative messages about Emmer on his Truth Social platform in recent days. Several Republicans who oppose Emmer told CNN Tuesday they will not change their stance and are calling for a new candidate.

    All current dumbass speaker candidates
    objected  to certifying the 2020 election

                     new_poop

    CNN's Haley Talbot -

    All five GOP candidates for speaker this round
    objected to certifying the 2020 election.

         Speaker designee Tom Emmer saw his bid for speaker
    slip away in part because of his vote to certify the election,
    which came up behind closed doors, as he looked to win
    over hardline conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Frontrunner Rep. Tom Emmer QUITS House speaker race                                 The Minnesota Republican had emerged Tuesday afternoon as House Republicans’ new speaker nominee in the scramble to succeed Kevin McCarthy. But with a razor-thin GOP majority in the House, Emmer can only afford to lose four Republicans, and 26 voted against him behind closed doors. And despite a phone call with Trump over the weekend, the disgraced & indicted former president has posted negative messages about Emmer on his Truth Social platform in recent days. Several Republicans who oppose Emmer told CNN Tuesday they will not change their stance and are calling for a new candidate.

    All current dumbass speaker candidates
    objected  to certifying the 2020 election

                     new_poop

    CNN's Haley Talbot -

    All five GOP candidates for speaker this round
    objected to certifying the 2020 election.

         Speaker designee Tom Emmer saw his bid for speaker
    slip away in part because of his vote to certify the election,
    which came up behind closed doors, as he looked to win
    over hardline conservatives.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Frontrunner Rep. Tom Emmer QUITS House speaker race                                 The Minnesota Republican had emerged Tuesday afternoon as House Republicans’ new speaker nominee in the scramble to succeed Kevin McCarthy. But with a razor-thin GOP majority in the House, Emmer can only afford to lose four Republicans, and 26 voted against him behind closed doors. And despite a phone call with Trump over the weekend, the disgraced & indicted former president has posted negative messages about Emmer on his Truth Social platform in recent days. Several Republicans who oppose Emmer told CNN Tuesday they will not change their stance and are calling for a new candidate. All current dumbass speaker candidates objected  to certifying the 2020 election                  CNN's Haley Talbot - All five GOP candidates for speaker this round objected to certifying the 2020 election. 

    thejester  thumbs_down

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Frontrunner Rep. Tom Emmer QUITS House speaker race                                 The Minnesota Republican had emerged Tuesday afternoon as House Republicans’ new speaker nominee in the scramble to succeed Kevin McCarthy. But with a razor-thin GOP majority in the House, Emmer can only afford to lose four Republicans, and 26 voted against him behind closed doors. And despite a phone call with Trump over the weekend, the disgraced & indicted former president has posted negative messages about Emmer on his Truth Social platform in recent days. Several Republicans who oppose Emmer told CNN Tuesday they will not change their stance and are calling for a new candidate. All current dumbass speaker candidates objected  to certifying the 2020 election                  CNN's Haley Talbot - All five GOP candidates for speaker this round objected to certifying the 2020 election. 

    thejester  thumbs_down

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    All five GOP candidates for speaker this round objected to certifying the 2020 election.

    Congress is broken because House GOP is broken.  Voting for delusional election deniers contributes to dysfunctional government.   They are anti-establishment extremists who prefer government shutdown instead of compromising.  But in democracies, willingness to compromise is vital in advancing legislations forward.  If republicans cannot elect a House speaker, coalition with democrats may be necessary.  Problem is divided GOP is unwilling to share power with democrats.  Besides, democrats are unlikely to vote for election denier as speaker.  Sad since coalitions are some of the best governments in countries with parliamentary system.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    All five GOP candidates for speaker this round objected to certifying the 2020 election.

    Congress is broken because House GOP is broken.  Voting for delusional election deniers contributes to dysfunctional government.   They are anti-establishment extremists who prefer government shutdown instead of compromising.  But in democracies, willingness to compromise is vital in advancing legislations forward.  If republicans cannot elect a House speaker, coalition with democrats may be necessary.  Problem is divided GOP is unwilling to share power with democrats.  Besides, democrats are unlikely to vote for election denier as speaker.  Sad since coalitions are some of the best governments in countries with parliamentary system.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: All five GOP candidates for speaker this round objected to certifying the 2020 election. Congress is broken because House GOP is broken.  Voting for delusional election deniers contributes to dysfunctional government.   They are anti-establishment extremists who prefer government shutdown instead of compromising.  But in democracies, willingness to compromise is vital in advancing legislations forward.  If republicans cannot elect a House speaker, coalition with democrats may be necessary.  Problem is divided GOP is unwilling to share power with democrats.  Besides, democrats are unlikely to vote for election denier as speaker.  Sad since coalitions are some of the best governments in countries with parliamentary system.

    What if the compromising comes from the government shutdown ??  I mean, we are talking about a functional democratic republic process that allows for a government shutdown as part of the process.  Politics is all give and take.... give a little to get a little...patience 3rd, patience.... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: All five GOP candidates for speaker this round objected to certifying the 2020 election. Congress is broken because House GOP is broken.  Voting for delusional election deniers contributes to dysfunctional government.   They are anti-establishment extremists who prefer government shutdown instead of compromising.  But in democracies, willingness to compromise is vital in advancing legislations forward.  If republicans cannot elect a House speaker, coalition with democrats may be necessary.  Problem is divided GOP is unwilling to share power with democrats.  Besides, democrats are unlikely to vote for election denier as speaker.  Sad since coalitions are some of the best governments in countries with parliamentary system.

    What if the compromising comes from the government shutdown ??  I mean, we are talking about a functional democratic republic process that allows for a government shutdown as part of the process.  Politics is all give and take.... give a little to get a little...patience 3rd, patience.... 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Wallstreetcapper is right. According to Cato institute, Trump didn't actually accomplish much on immigration. Legal immigration declined but illegal immigration remained steady and he left behind a huge backlog of asylum cases.  Trump was lucky to inherit a strong economy from Obama. ISIS was defeated during Obama administration to allow Trump to later claim victory. Trump's trade war failed to change China's unfair practices while American consumers and US businesses ended up paying higher prices. Other presidents wisely didn't move US embassy to Jerusalem because of the risk of inciting more violent conflicts in the Middle east. Trump's unnecessary tax cuts failed to pay for themselves but instead worsen budget deficits and federal debt.

    @thirdperson peace_5

    After accepting a humming economy from Obama (rated #11 best US president all-time by highly-respected/comprehensive surveys by experts), on his watch, the multiple indicted GOP RICO mob boss/fraud/sex-offender was also responsible for a crushing recession; FAILED to do the one thing most important to any US presidency - PROTECT THE COUNTRY! - setting in motion conditions leading directly to the deaths of over ONE MILLION Americans from a killer virus; stood by while over 20 million Americans were thrown out of work leadiing DIRECTLY to unprecedented financial hardship to much of the country and many millions of citizens and businesses; oversaw a spike in unemployment of over 14% - the worst since the Great Depression preceeding WW2; the only modern day US president to actually take a good economy and good unemployment numbers (from a Democrat) then leave the office in disgrace with a WORSE economy and BAD unemployment numbers....handing the task to fix HIS mess back to the Democrats.......again!; called our fallen soldiers "losers" and "suckers"; then incited and presided over one of the most heinous acts in our Republic by actually attempting a coup to overthrow a democratically elected US government - a criminal act leading to his arrest on multiple felonies, which also include multiple trials for fraud and sex crimes.  

    On a sports-gambling forum of all places, the INTELLIGENT among us fully understand that the outcome of and final assessment of the coaching & performances in  a football game  is NOT determined  by the score at the end of the 3rd Q (ie, first 3 yrs in office), but rather, the score/outcome at the full conclusion of the game.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Wallstreetcapper is right. According to Cato institute, Trump didn't actually accomplish much on immigration. Legal immigration declined but illegal immigration remained steady and he left behind a huge backlog of asylum cases.  Trump was lucky to inherit a strong economy from Obama. ISIS was defeated during Obama administration to allow Trump to later claim victory. Trump's trade war failed to change China's unfair practices while American consumers and US businesses ended up paying higher prices. Other presidents wisely didn't move US embassy to Jerusalem because of the risk of inciting more violent conflicts in the Middle east. Trump's unnecessary tax cuts failed to pay for themselves but instead worsen budget deficits and federal debt.

    @thirdperson peace_5

    After accepting a humming economy from Obama (rated #11 best US president all-time by highly-respected/comprehensive surveys by experts), on his watch, the multiple indicted GOP RICO mob boss/fraud/sex-offender was also responsible for a crushing recession; FAILED to do the one thing most important to any US presidency - PROTECT THE COUNTRY! - setting in motion conditions leading directly to the deaths of over ONE MILLION Americans from a killer virus; stood by while over 20 million Americans were thrown out of work leadiing DIRECTLY to unprecedented financial hardship to much of the country and many millions of citizens and businesses; oversaw a spike in unemployment of over 14% - the worst since the Great Depression preceeding WW2; the only modern day US president to actually take a good economy and good unemployment numbers (from a Democrat) then leave the office in disgrace with a WORSE economy and BAD unemployment numbers....handing the task to fix HIS mess back to the Democrats.......again!; called our fallen soldiers "losers" and "suckers"; then incited and presided over one of the most heinous acts in our Republic by actually attempting a coup to overthrow a democratically elected US government - a criminal act leading to his arrest on multiple felonies, which also include multiple trials for fraud and sex crimes.  

    On a sports-gambling forum of all places, the INTELLIGENT among us fully understand that the outcome of and final assessment of the coaching & performances in  a football game  is NOT determined  by the score at the end of the 3rd Q (ie, first 3 yrs in office), but rather, the score/outcome at the full conclusion of the game.

     

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