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    Trump’s brags about passing dementia tests isn’t the dunk he thinks it is

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    THEMUGG
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2024 - 10:10 AM ET #26

    @wallstreetcappers

      I agree about the attacks, not just in this forum but the country as a whole. We have people attacking politicians, opposing media attacking politicians & vice-versa, politicians attacking politicians, & even politicians attacking American citizens. I know a lot of this has been going on forever, & maybe it has been exacerbated by social media & 24/7 news, but the chasm between parties is wider than I can ever remember.......nobody wants to agree on anything because they don't want to risk giving the other party a "win". It's a big spite fest. Meanwhile our country is headed off a cliff.

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    @wallstreetcappers

      I agree about the attacks, not just in this forum but the country as a whole. We have people attacking politicians, opposing media attacking politicians & vice-versa, politicians attacking politicians, & even politicians attacking American citizens. I know a lot of this has been going on forever, & maybe it has been exacerbated by social media & 24/7 news, but the chasm between parties is wider than I can ever remember.......nobody wants to agree on anything because they don't want to risk giving the other party a "win". It's a big spite fest. Meanwhile our country is headed off a cliff.

     
    Sidehatch
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2024 - 2:52 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: “It’d be nice to have an intelligent person be president.” Siena college survey of historians rank Trump last in intelligence among 46 presidents.  But intelligence is probably the most important quality for leaders.  He has been described as a moron by former associates Mattis, Bolton and Tillerson.  McMaster, Kelly, Nunberg, Mnuchin and Preibus say Trump is an idiot.Good lord, where does that leave Biden? Well, judging by the fact that Biden doesn’t have a laundry list of ex-staffers calling him an idiot certainly does differentiate him from Trump. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest answer is the right one - which is that people who worked for Trump think he’s an idiot, and people who worked for Biden do not think he’s an idiot. So there’s that. One old axiom that would have served Trump well is, “If you look around a room and think everyone there is an a**hole, then you’re an a**hole.”   ....and then there's former President O'bama who said to never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. And then there's Robert Gates,  who said Joe has  been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades..   I think based on the last 3 years, both O'bama and Gates have proven to be correct  !!

    So on one hand we have 20+ former staffers calling Trump an idiot and a moron. On the other hand, you found one example of a guy saying he’s wrong, and another saying he messes things up sometimes.

    Those aren’t the same thing and to pretend they are is ignorant at worst, intentionally deceptive at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: “It’d be nice to have an intelligent person be president.” Siena college survey of historians rank Trump last in intelligence among 46 presidents.  But intelligence is probably the most important quality for leaders.  He has been described as a moron by former associates Mattis, Bolton and Tillerson.  McMaster, Kelly, Nunberg, Mnuchin and Preibus say Trump is an idiot.Good lord, where does that leave Biden? Well, judging by the fact that Biden doesn’t have a laundry list of ex-staffers calling him an idiot certainly does differentiate him from Trump. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest answer is the right one - which is that people who worked for Trump think he’s an idiot, and people who worked for Biden do not think he’s an idiot. So there’s that. One old axiom that would have served Trump well is, “If you look around a room and think everyone there is an a**hole, then you’re an a**hole.”   ....and then there's former President O'bama who said to never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. And then there's Robert Gates,  who said Joe has  been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades..   I think based on the last 3 years, both O'bama and Gates have proven to be correct  !!

    So on one hand we have 20+ former staffers calling Trump an idiot and a moron. On the other hand, you found one example of a guy saying he’s wrong, and another saying he messes things up sometimes.

    Those aren’t the same thing and to pretend they are is ignorant at worst, intentionally deceptive at best.

     
    Sidehatch
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2024 - 2:54 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: “It’d be nice to have an intelligent person be president.” Siena college survey of historians rank Trump last in intelligence among 46 presidents.  But intelligence is probably the most important quality for leaders.  He has been described as a moron by former associates Mattis, Bolton and Tillerson.  McMaster, Kelly, Nunberg, Mnuchin and Preibus say Trump is an idiot.Good lord, where does that leave Biden? Well, judging by the fact that Biden doesn’t have a laundry list of ex-staffers calling him an idiot certainly does differentiate him from Trump. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest answer is the right one - which is that people who worked for Trump think he’s an idiot, and people who worked for Biden do not think he’s an idiot. So there’s that. One old axiom that would have served Trump well is, “If you look around a room and think everyone there is an a**hole, then you’re an a**hole.”Biden has nearly the whole country calling him an idiot. He's known as "Dementia Joe" for a reason.

    Only the right wing media machine calls him that when they regurgitate Trump. Well, them and you … who happily parrot anything they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: “It’d be nice to have an intelligent person be president.” Siena college survey of historians rank Trump last in intelligence among 46 presidents.  But intelligence is probably the most important quality for leaders.  He has been described as a moron by former associates Mattis, Bolton and Tillerson.  McMaster, Kelly, Nunberg, Mnuchin and Preibus say Trump is an idiot.Good lord, where does that leave Biden? Well, judging by the fact that Biden doesn’t have a laundry list of ex-staffers calling him an idiot certainly does differentiate him from Trump. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest answer is the right one - which is that people who worked for Trump think he’s an idiot, and people who worked for Biden do not think he’s an idiot. So there’s that. One old axiom that would have served Trump well is, “If you look around a room and think everyone there is an a**hole, then you’re an a**hole.”Biden has nearly the whole country calling him an idiot. He's known as "Dementia Joe" for a reason.

    Only the right wing media machine calls him that when they regurgitate Trump. Well, them and you … who happily parrot anything they say.

     
    Sidehatch
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2024 - 3:00 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @wallstreetcappers   Another Trump-bashing thread was started because of a slip-up by Trump. The OP probably didn't stop to think that a similar thread could be started about Biden almost daily. But why bother? Anyone with working eyes & ears can tell Biden isn't all there. There's no way his handlers would let Biden be subjected to a cognitive test. I'm not sure I'd want to see him do it. Imagine the shit storm it would set off if word got out that he failed it. It would affect everyone.  I don't like Trump, & i don't hate Biden......... I'm just fascinated by the lengths people go to to bash/hate on one & defend the other no matter what. It's a circus.......a train wreck you can't look away from. It'll be a shame if we're left to choose between these two again.

    This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden.

    Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. 

    Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests.

    I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH. 

    That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @wallstreetcappers   Another Trump-bashing thread was started because of a slip-up by Trump. The OP probably didn't stop to think that a similar thread could be started about Biden almost daily. But why bother? Anyone with working eyes & ears can tell Biden isn't all there. There's no way his handlers would let Biden be subjected to a cognitive test. I'm not sure I'd want to see him do it. Imagine the shit storm it would set off if word got out that he failed it. It would affect everyone.  I don't like Trump, & i don't hate Biden......... I'm just fascinated by the lengths people go to to bash/hate on one & defend the other no matter what. It's a circus.......a train wreck you can't look away from. It'll be a shame if we're left to choose between these two again.

    This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden.

    Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. 

    Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests.

    I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH. 

    That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2024 - 3:51 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: “It’d be nice to have an intelligent person be president.” Siena college survey of historians rank Trump last in intelligence among 46 presidents.  But intelligence is probably the most important quality for leaders.  He has been described as a moron by former associates Mattis, Bolton and Tillerson.  McMaster, Kelly, Nunberg, Mnuchin and Preibus say Trump is an idiot.Good lord, where does that leave Biden? Well, judging by the fact that Biden doesn’t have a laundry list of ex-staffers calling him an idiot certainly does differentiate him from Trump. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest answer is the right one - which is that people who worked for Trump think he’s an idiot, and people who worked for Biden do not think he’s an idiot. So there’s that. One old axiom that would have served Trump well is, “If you look around a room and think everyone there is an a**hole, then you’re an a**hole.”   ....and then there's former President O'bama who said to never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. And then there's Robert Gates,  who said Joe has  been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades..   I think based on the last 3 years, both O'bama and Gates have proven to be correct  !! So on one hand we have 20+ former staffers calling Trump an idiot and a moron. On the other hand, you found one example of a guy saying he’s wrong, and another saying he messes things up sometimes. Those aren’t the same thing and to pretend they are is ignorant at worst, intentionally deceptive at best.

     

    We have plenty of examples just in the last 3 years that Biden is an idiot.   His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with..  Do you honestly believe any of this happens w/ Trump as President.  Lol.    Enemies don't respect weakness.  I'd be interested to know just how many people globally have been killed due to Biden's foreign policy disaster.  It's in the hundreds of thousands when you include Russian losses.   That's pretty shitty .

    Meanwhile, Trump is an "asshole."    So lots don't like his "management style."   Who gives a shit.  Grow up.  Meanwhile, he will have just about anyone he wants to hire working for him in his administration in 2025. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: “It’d be nice to have an intelligent person be president.” Siena college survey of historians rank Trump last in intelligence among 46 presidents.  But intelligence is probably the most important quality for leaders.  He has been described as a moron by former associates Mattis, Bolton and Tillerson.  McMaster, Kelly, Nunberg, Mnuchin and Preibus say Trump is an idiot.Good lord, where does that leave Biden? Well, judging by the fact that Biden doesn’t have a laundry list of ex-staffers calling him an idiot certainly does differentiate him from Trump. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest answer is the right one - which is that people who worked for Trump think he’s an idiot, and people who worked for Biden do not think he’s an idiot. So there’s that. One old axiom that would have served Trump well is, “If you look around a room and think everyone there is an a**hole, then you’re an a**hole.”   ....and then there's former President O'bama who said to never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. And then there's Robert Gates,  who said Joe has  been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades..   I think based on the last 3 years, both O'bama and Gates have proven to be correct  !! So on one hand we have 20+ former staffers calling Trump an idiot and a moron. On the other hand, you found one example of a guy saying he’s wrong, and another saying he messes things up sometimes. Those aren’t the same thing and to pretend they are is ignorant at worst, intentionally deceptive at best.

     

    We have plenty of examples just in the last 3 years that Biden is an idiot.   His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with..  Do you honestly believe any of this happens w/ Trump as President.  Lol.    Enemies don't respect weakness.  I'd be interested to know just how many people globally have been killed due to Biden's foreign policy disaster.  It's in the hundreds of thousands when you include Russian losses.   That's pretty shitty .

    Meanwhile, Trump is an "asshole."    So lots don't like his "management style."   Who gives a shit.  Grow up.  Meanwhile, he will have just about anyone he wants to hire working for him in his administration in 2025. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2024 - 3:54 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @wallstreetcappers   Another Trump-bashing thread was started because of a slip-up by Trump. The OP probably didn't stop to think that a similar thread could be started about Biden almost daily. But why bother? Anyone with working eyes & ears can tell Biden isn't all there. There's no way his handlers would let Biden be subjected to a cognitive test. I'm not sure I'd want to see him do it. Imagine the shit storm it would set off if word got out that he failed it. It would affect everyone.  I don't like Trump, & i don't hate Biden......... I'm just fascinated by the lengths people go to to bash/hate on one & defend the other no matter what. It's a circus.......a train wreck you can't look away from. It'll be a shame if we're left to choose between these two again. This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden. Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests. I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH.  That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now.

    Haley is about to get 'schooled in her own state of S. Carolina....  Not a good look, and no, and I don't think Trump is too worried.  Seriously, where do you come up w/ this stuff ?  an_drunksick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @wallstreetcappers   Another Trump-bashing thread was started because of a slip-up by Trump. The OP probably didn't stop to think that a similar thread could be started about Biden almost daily. But why bother? Anyone with working eyes & ears can tell Biden isn't all there. There's no way his handlers would let Biden be subjected to a cognitive test. I'm not sure I'd want to see him do it. Imagine the shit storm it would set off if word got out that he failed it. It would affect everyone.  I don't like Trump, & i don't hate Biden......... I'm just fascinated by the lengths people go to to bash/hate on one & defend the other no matter what. It's a circus.......a train wreck you can't look away from. It'll be a shame if we're left to choose between these two again. This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden. Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests. I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH.  That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now.

    Haley is about to get 'schooled in her own state of S. Carolina....  Not a good look, and no, and I don't think Trump is too worried.  Seriously, where do you come up w/ this stuff ?  an_drunksick

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden. Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests. I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH.  That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now.
    Good points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden. Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests. I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH.  That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now.
    Good points

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

      His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with.. 

    Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

      His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with.. 

    Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.

     
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    Biden is responsible for giving Iran their frozen assests on 9/11 of all days.

    Biden is responsible for removing Houthis from terrorist group and giving them millions.

    Biden is responsible for funding hundreds of millions to UNRWA even though two watchdog groups told Congress UNRWA promotes and works with Hamas.

     

    Now Biden spends millions and risks American lives to fight the same.

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    Biden is responsible for giving Iran their frozen assests on 9/11 of all days.

    Biden is responsible for removing Houthis from terrorist group and giving them millions.

    Biden is responsible for funding hundreds of millions to UNRWA even though two watchdog groups told Congress UNRWA promotes and works with Hamas.

     

    Now Biden spends millions and risks American lives to fight the same.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Biden is responsible for giving Iran their frozen assests on 9/11 of all days. Biden is responsible for removing Houthis from terrorist group and giving them millions. Biden is responsible for funding hundreds of millions to UNRWA even though two watchdog groups told Congress UNRWA promotes and works with Hamas.   Now Biden spends millions and risks American lives to fight the same.

    Nice, but asserts aren’t a thing and just because Steve Bannon made something up doesn’t make it true. 

    If you want to talk about Biden, why don’t you do it on one of the many Biden threads here? This thread is about the Republican primary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Biden is responsible for giving Iran their frozen assests on 9/11 of all days. Biden is responsible for removing Houthis from terrorist group and giving them millions. Biden is responsible for funding hundreds of millions to UNRWA even though two watchdog groups told Congress UNRWA promotes and works with Hamas.   Now Biden spends millions and risks American lives to fight the same.

    Nice, but asserts aren’t a thing and just because Steve Bannon made something up doesn’t make it true. 

    If you want to talk about Biden, why don’t you do it on one of the many Biden threads here? This thread is about the Republican primary.

     
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     You threw this one out several times already and I explained the why..the real why not the partisan Trump and GOP awesome Biden stinks why. We are playing chess with Iran trying to accomplish MULTIPLE objectives with a country who is difficult at best and has a high risk beta for the region and for the US in general. So while it sounds bad all the bit chomping stuff you want to blame Biden for, its really not any politicians sole responsibility. The military and CIA objectives and larger overhanging grand scale objectives are not about the things you mention. We want things and they want things, that is what all your complaints are about. Iran wants many things they feel we have control over and they in return will allegedly do things we see as VERY valuable and of high importance.

    So sure you can bump out your chest and say that Trump would never blah blah blah but it is not true and it is not accurate. We have to make cruddy deals regularly and there is no pure win we get all our demands scenario. If Trump goes on his favorite social media site and acts like he is calling the shots and we will not do this and that guess what happens? Iran throws out the nuke threat and then what does Trump do? Will Trump and his kids do covert missions to make sure that Iran is not going to develop and forward weapons that can wipe out allies we see as important? While maybe the US is not a DIRECT and simple target, Europe certainly is and NATO allies certainly are so do YA think that maybe the reason why we try to negotiate with Iran is for our allies and the greater overreaching objectives and HOPEFULLY we are not going to regret giving some of their demands?

    Trump never had to make tough choices where his gruff big snout yammering had consequences, I have no reason to think he would have handled the situations any better than Biden did, the LONE real situation he was dealt and that is Covid I would say he did a pretty crappy job at it, he was not a leader he did not pound social media and demand that shutdowns would never happen if he were president. I can promise you this, if Trump were NOT in charge when Covid was unfolding he WOULD have done exactly that...he would have hit his Mc Soapbox and blasted every decision the other guy made and would claim he would do this and that and blah blah blah. This partisan stuff you pump out is laughable and so inaccurate, maybe one day you will become wiser to the realities of the world and step away from your extreme biased conclusions.

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     You threw this one out several times already and I explained the why..the real why not the partisan Trump and GOP awesome Biden stinks why. We are playing chess with Iran trying to accomplish MULTIPLE objectives with a country who is difficult at best and has a high risk beta for the region and for the US in general. So while it sounds bad all the bit chomping stuff you want to blame Biden for, its really not any politicians sole responsibility. The military and CIA objectives and larger overhanging grand scale objectives are not about the things you mention. We want things and they want things, that is what all your complaints are about. Iran wants many things they feel we have control over and they in return will allegedly do things we see as VERY valuable and of high importance.

    So sure you can bump out your chest and say that Trump would never blah blah blah but it is not true and it is not accurate. We have to make cruddy deals regularly and there is no pure win we get all our demands scenario. If Trump goes on his favorite social media site and acts like he is calling the shots and we will not do this and that guess what happens? Iran throws out the nuke threat and then what does Trump do? Will Trump and his kids do covert missions to make sure that Iran is not going to develop and forward weapons that can wipe out allies we see as important? While maybe the US is not a DIRECT and simple target, Europe certainly is and NATO allies certainly are so do YA think that maybe the reason why we try to negotiate with Iran is for our allies and the greater overreaching objectives and HOPEFULLY we are not going to regret giving some of their demands?

    Trump never had to make tough choices where his gruff big snout yammering had consequences, I have no reason to think he would have handled the situations any better than Biden did, the LONE real situation he was dealt and that is Covid I would say he did a pretty crappy job at it, he was not a leader he did not pound social media and demand that shutdowns would never happen if he were president. I can promise you this, if Trump were NOT in charge when Covid was unfolding he WOULD have done exactly that...he would have hit his Mc Soapbox and blasted every decision the other guy made and would claim he would do this and that and blah blah blah. This partisan stuff you pump out is laughable and so inaccurate, maybe one day you will become wiser to the realities of the world and step away from your extreme biased conclusions.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @wallstreetcappers   Another Trump-bashing thread was started because of a slip-up by Trump. The OP probably didn't stop to think that a similar thread could be started about Biden almost daily. But why bother? Anyone with working eyes & ears can tell Biden isn't all there. There's no way his handlers would let Biden be subjected to a cognitive test. I'm not sure I'd want to see him do it. Imagine the shit storm it would set off if word got out that he failed it. It would affect everyone.  I don't like Trump, & i don't hate Biden......... I'm just fascinated by the lengths people go to to bash/hate on one & defend the other no matter what. It's a circus.......a train wreck you can't look away from. It'll be a shame if we're left to choose between these two again. This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden. Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests. I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH.  That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now. Haley is about to get 'schooled in her own state of S. Carolina....  Not a good look, and no, and I don't think Trump is too worried.  Seriously, where do you come up w/ this stuff ?

    Considering polls had Haley getting about 10-20% of the vote, and she got 45%, I’d say that’s exceeding expectations. If Trump isn’t worried, why is he attacking her and calling her Nancy Pelosi, pretending she’s a foreigner, and challenging her to dementia contests? 

    In the last month she’s gone from barely relevant to 55/45 toe to toe with Trump. Any underdog candidate who was polling at sub-10% a month ago would view this as great progress against the favorite. To add to it, turnout was really low in NH and Iowa, which suggests there’s potential for whoever the second place candidate might be to make great gains.

    As to your last comment about where I get this stuff, here’s some advice - just pay attention for a change. Tune out the partisan media machines and just read the objective stuff. Nobody else can do it for you.

    It’s really hilarious how angry the right wingers are at me for posting about the Republican primary. It’s like they don’t want to admit that NH was a 55/45 race, want to pretend Haley doesn’t exist, and are eager to criticize Biden. You can do that on one of the many anti-Biden threads here.

    Trump is the one challenging Republicans to dementia tests. Nobody else is. It’s obviously newsworthy, that’s why Fox News promoted the clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: @wallstreetcappers   Another Trump-bashing thread was started because of a slip-up by Trump. The OP probably didn't stop to think that a similar thread could be started about Biden almost daily. But why bother? Anyone with working eyes & ears can tell Biden isn't all there. There's no way his handlers would let Biden be subjected to a cognitive test. I'm not sure I'd want to see him do it. Imagine the shit storm it would set off if word got out that he failed it. It would affect everyone.  I don't like Trump, & i don't hate Biden......... I'm just fascinated by the lengths people go to to bash/hate on one & defend the other no matter what. It's a circus.......a train wreck you can't look away from. It'll be a shame if we're left to choose between these two again. This thread was started because candidate Trump challenged Nikki Haley to a dementia test. The original post said nothing about Biden. Instead, it said that Haley should happily accept his challenge. Why won’t you acknowledge those basic truths, instead of relentlessly whining about Biden? Trump’s the one who is challenging people to dementia tests. I’m assuming because you didn’t want an open primary. With apologies to all of Trump’s ball washers here, Nikki Haley is still in the race and exceeded expectations in NH.  That’s probably why Trump is so worried about her right now. Haley is about to get 'schooled in her own state of S. Carolina....  Not a good look, and no, and I don't think Trump is too worried.  Seriously, where do you come up w/ this stuff ?

    Considering polls had Haley getting about 10-20% of the vote, and she got 45%, I’d say that’s exceeding expectations. If Trump isn’t worried, why is he attacking her and calling her Nancy Pelosi, pretending she’s a foreigner, and challenging her to dementia contests? 

    In the last month she’s gone from barely relevant to 55/45 toe to toe with Trump. Any underdog candidate who was polling at sub-10% a month ago would view this as great progress against the favorite. To add to it, turnout was really low in NH and Iowa, which suggests there’s potential for whoever the second place candidate might be to make great gains.

    As to your last comment about where I get this stuff, here’s some advice - just pay attention for a change. Tune out the partisan media machines and just read the objective stuff. Nobody else can do it for you.

    It’s really hilarious how angry the right wingers are at me for posting about the Republican primary. It’s like they don’t want to admit that NH was a 55/45 race, want to pretend Haley doesn’t exist, and are eager to criticize Biden. You can do that on one of the many anti-Biden threads here.

    Trump is the one challenging Republicans to dementia tests. Nobody else is. It’s obviously newsworthy, that’s why Fox News promoted the clip.

     
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     Good post! Unfortunately, everything that guy posts is BLUE TEAM BAD ORANGE TEAM GOOD ITS VERY SIMPLE. 

    People who play that game are just rooting for a color, they have no nuance and have little interest in supporting candidates who would be good for the entire country.

    I don’t agree with a bunch of Haley’s talking points, but she’s sure a heck of a lot more sane and rational than the other buffoons who ran or are still running. I’ve noticed some exit poll interviews where GOP women are voting for her because they just can’t deal with Trump’s drama anymore. Women are why Trump lost in 2020, campaigns would be wise not to ignore them again.

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     Good post! Unfortunately, everything that guy posts is BLUE TEAM BAD ORANGE TEAM GOOD ITS VERY SIMPLE. 

    People who play that game are just rooting for a color, they have no nuance and have little interest in supporting candidates who would be good for the entire country.

    I don’t agree with a bunch of Haley’s talking points, but she’s sure a heck of a lot more sane and rational than the other buffoons who ran or are still running. I’ve noticed some exit poll interviews where GOP women are voting for her because they just can’t deal with Trump’s drama anymore. Women are why Trump lost in 2020, campaigns would be wise not to ignore them again.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:   His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with..  Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.

    Weakness breeds Agression from our adversaries.   Make a mental "post-it" note if you have to THIRD... 

    The disastrous exit from Afghanistan was the welcome sign to our adversaries that it was "open season."  No one put a gun to Joe's head and told him to exit in the manner that he did... and he got 13 of our Troops killed, too !!  

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:   His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with..  Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.

    Weakness breeds Agression from our adversaries.   Make a mental "post-it" note if you have to THIRD... 

    The disastrous exit from Afghanistan was the welcome sign to our adversaries that it was "open season."  No one put a gun to Joe's head and told him to exit in the manner that he did... and he got 13 of our Troops killed, too !!  

     

     

     
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    And oh yeah, how many global conflicts started under Trump.  None.  In fact, he put ISIS to bed.. This is the same group that O'bama said the fight would be a "generational struggle."   No , it wasn't.  You just needed the fortitude to do what was necessary, like Trump did. 

    What you lefties never seem to understand is that your weakness is picked up by the rest of the world.    thumbs_down

    Both O'bama & Joe were/are pathetic & weak.  

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    And oh yeah, how many global conflicts started under Trump.  None.  In fact, he put ISIS to bed.. This is the same group that O'bama said the fight would be a "generational struggle."   No , it wasn't.  You just needed the fortitude to do what was necessary, like Trump did. 

    What you lefties never seem to understand is that your weakness is picked up by the rest of the world.    thumbs_down

    Both O'bama & Joe were/are pathetic & weak.  

     
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     It isnt lefties or righties that are to blame but partisan followers like to go that route because it solidifies their political agendas. I am glad nothing of serious consequence happened during Trump because he has no experience in handling it, as I mentioned the only real difficulty during his term I think he did a pretty poor job of handling, especially given the HIGH bar he places on any other politician. Its easy to heckle from the cheap seats but there is nothing in his past or his presidency that tells me he has better skills if the situation were serious.

    Iran has been a pain for generations and isnt going to be any different with  red or blue in the seat, we are playing the give/take game with them as we have for 50-75 years. 

     

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     It isnt lefties or righties that are to blame but partisan followers like to go that route because it solidifies their political agendas. I am glad nothing of serious consequence happened during Trump because he has no experience in handling it, as I mentioned the only real difficulty during his term I think he did a pretty poor job of handling, especially given the HIGH bar he places on any other politician. Its easy to heckle from the cheap seats but there is nothing in his past or his presidency that tells me he has better skills if the situation were serious.

    Iran has been a pain for generations and isnt going to be any different with  red or blue in the seat, we are playing the give/take game with them as we have for 50-75 years. 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.
    Well, that, and adolf trump allowed the never-ending war in Afghanistan - which the republicons dragged us into 20 yrs ago - to continue for each day he was in office, an an estimated cost of $300 Million PER DAY!   Not per month....PER DAY!

    Thankfully, Joe Biden got us out, a good thing on most levels including the incredible savings to our budget, that trump had happily continued to waste every single day for 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.
    Well, that, and adolf trump allowed the never-ending war in Afghanistan - which the republicons dragged us into 20 yrs ago - to continue for each day he was in office, an an estimated cost of $300 Million PER DAY!   Not per month....PER DAY!

    Thankfully, Joe Biden got us out, a good thing on most levels including the incredible savings to our budget, that trump had happily continued to waste every single day for 4 years.

     
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    Coming up with a 1000 word essay doesn't change the facts. Biden is/was not unlucky. His actions has kicked him,our allies, and our country in the teeth. 

     

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    Coming up with a 1000 word essay doesn't change the facts. Biden is/was not unlucky. His actions has kicked him,our allies, and our country in the teeth. 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:   His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with..  Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.

    two worst economic disasters in this country since the great depression over 93 years ago happened in the past 15 yrs under republican admins

    gw bush  first       then even worse was under donnie chump in 2020

    no 1000 word essay can change those facts

    republicans actions (or non inaction ) kicked our country in the teeth !

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:   His foreign policy "IS" a disaster, and has directly led to Russia's "big invasion" of Ukraine, and Hamas's mass killing of Jewws in Israel, and Iran pushing the envelope on what they can get away with..  Putin ordered Russia invasion of Ukraine.  Hamas was responsible for the attack on Israel.  Long history of conflicts between those countries.   Under Iran nuclear deal, the country was peaceful as relations normalized with other countries.  Conflicts escalated after Trump stupidly abandoned the deal and imposed sanctions.  Unlucky for Biden to inherit a mess from Trump.

    two worst economic disasters in this country since the great depression over 93 years ago happened in the past 15 yrs under republican admins

    gw bush  first       then even worse was under donnie chump in 2020

    no 1000 word essay can change those facts

    republicans actions (or non inaction ) kicked our country in the teeth !

     

     
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    This country is getting weaker every second . Unfortunately for everyone the people will choose the lesser of two evils , although it sounds absurd saying that because it’s like picking your poison , and they will elect Trump because like gambling people get antsy and go on the “ zig zag “ by blaming whatever party is in office and going with the other one the next time . “ look they’ve gone 3 unders in a row let’s hit the over ! It’s time ! “

    Or worse yet on roulette when 6 reds hit so every jabroni that looks at that little board stating the last 10 numbers that hit jumps in making a circle around the table like it’s a fist fight in high school and bets black .

    foolish .

    so trump wins and probably does something stupid that gets the whole planet blown up . Too bad you guys won’t be able to come in here and make 55 threads about it . Cuz we’ll all be dead . But for those of you that make it to Heaven we can talk about it there during our racquetball games .

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    This country is getting weaker every second . Unfortunately for everyone the people will choose the lesser of two evils , although it sounds absurd saying that because it’s like picking your poison , and they will elect Trump because like gambling people get antsy and go on the “ zig zag “ by blaming whatever party is in office and going with the other one the next time . “ look they’ve gone 3 unders in a row let’s hit the over ! It’s time ! “

    Or worse yet on roulette when 6 reds hit so every jabroni that looks at that little board stating the last 10 numbers that hit jumps in making a circle around the table like it’s a fist fight in high school and bets black .

    foolish .

    so trump wins and probably does something stupid that gets the whole planet blown up . Too bad you guys won’t be able to come in here and make 55 threads about it . Cuz we’ll all be dead . But for those of you that make it to Heaven we can talk about it there during our racquetball games .

     
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     Good thing trump not gonna win. an_dance

    Success is never final, failure is never fatal, and it's the courage that counts.
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    @spockgato

     Good thing trump not gonna win. an_dance

     
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    I wouldn’t be too sure about that , so you might want to put your Pom poms away because you’re acting as if you have the moneyline locked up when it’s basically a tie game with 9:43 left on the clock , and your quarterback is about to take a big hit on the next series , which causes a turnover , thus leading to excellent field position for the opposing team . But Trump is like Josh Allen , always making boneheaded mistakes because he goes for the jugular , so who knows ? It might turn out just like that Bills game did last week peace_5

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    I wouldn’t be too sure about that , so you might want to put your Pom poms away because you’re acting as if you have the moneyline locked up when it’s basically a tie game with 9:43 left on the clock , and your quarterback is about to take a big hit on the next series , which causes a turnover , thus leading to excellent field position for the opposing team . But Trump is like Josh Allen , always making boneheaded mistakes because he goes for the jugular , so who knows ? It might turn out just like that Bills game did last week peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2024 - 12:26 PM ET #48

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     I am positive about that. Alot of Republicans will stay home rather them vote for that pos again. Smart people see through the same shtick he is saying from 8 years ago

    Success is never final, failure is never fatal, and it's the courage that counts.
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    @spockgato

     I am positive about that. Alot of Republicans will stay home rather them vote for that pos again. Smart people see through the same shtick he is saying from 8 years ago

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    The disastrous exit from Afghanistan was the welcome sign to our adversaries that it was "open season."  No one put a gun to Joe's head and told him to exit in the manner that he did... and he got 13 of our Troops killed, too !!

    National security council report largely blames chaotic US exit on a lack of planning and troop reduction by Trump after flawed deal with the taliban in election year.  Biden was constrained by Trump's bad decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    The disastrous exit from Afghanistan was the welcome sign to our adversaries that it was "open season."  No one put a gun to Joe's head and told him to exit in the manner that he did... and he got 13 of our Troops killed, too !!

    National security council report largely blames chaotic US exit on a lack of planning and troop reduction by Trump after flawed deal with the taliban in election year.  Biden was constrained by Trump's bad decision.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2024 - 1:36 PM ET #50

    @thirdperson

     Yep, blame it on the last guy....take no accountability for one's actions.....  common theme with the regime and this sub forum.... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @thirdperson

     Yep, blame it on the last guy....take no accountability for one's actions.....  common theme with the regime and this sub forum.... 

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