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    fubah2
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 9:20 PM ET #51

    FBI warns 'armed protests' still being planned by brainwashed trump-cult lunatics

    FBI also state they have credible information from multiple sources that many plan
    to disquise themselves as members of the anti-fascist movement and/or as pro-BLM
    so as to implicate the LEFT or liberal causes, in further domestic terrorist riots

    Reply

    FBI warns 'armed protests' still being planned by brainwashed trump-cult lunatics

    FBI also state they have credible information from multiple sources that many plan
    to disquise themselves as members of the anti-fascist movement and/or as pro-BLM
    so as to implicate the LEFT or liberal causes, in further domestic terrorist riots

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2021 - 11:48 PM ET #52

    American jobs won't return to pre-pandemic levels
    until 2024, CBO says

     

    The projection shows just how long the job market still has to go to heal
    after suffering the steepest loss on record and a 14.7% unemployment rate.
    A whopping 140,000 jobs were lost in December, trump's last full month in office,
    the first monthly loss since April.
    The US economy could use a jolt after GDP *DECREASED*a whopping 3.5% in 2020
    - its WORST DECLINE since 1946.

    Reply

    American jobs won't return to pre-pandemic levels
    until 2024, CBO says

     

    The projection shows just how long the job market still has to go to heal
    after suffering the steepest loss on record and a 14.7% unemployment rate.
    A whopping 140,000 jobs were lost in December, trump's last full month in office,
    the first monthly loss since April.
    The US economy could use a jolt after GDP *DECREASED*a whopping 3.5% in 2020
    - its WORST DECLINE since 1946.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2021 - 6:26 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    FBI warns 'armed protests' still being planned by brainwashed trump-cult lunatics

    FBI also state they have credible information from multiple sources that many plan
    to disquise themselves as members of the anti-fascist movement and/or as pro-BLM
    so as to implicate the LEFT or liberal causes, in further domestic terrorist riots

    chilling        who will be killed next

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    FBI warns 'armed protests' still being planned by brainwashed trump-cult lunatics

    FBI also state they have credible information from multiple sources that many plan
    to disquise themselves as members of the anti-fascist movement and/or as pro-BLM
    so as to implicate the LEFT or liberal causes, in further domestic terrorist riots

    chilling        who will be killed next

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2021 - 6:48 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    American jobs won't return to pre-pandemic levels
    until 2024, CBO says

     

    The projection shows just how long the job market still has to go to heal
    after suffering the steepest loss on record and a 14.7% unemployment rate.
    A whopping 140,000 jobs were lost in December, trump's last full month in office,
    the first monthly loss since April.
    The US economy could use a jolt after GDP *DECREASED*a whopping 3.5% in 2020
    - its WORST DECLINE since 1946.

    thx to the global pandemic and in large part to rump and the rumplickers total mishandling of  it

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    American jobs won't return to pre-pandemic levels
    until 2024, CBO says

     

    The projection shows just how long the job market still has to go to heal
    after suffering the steepest loss on record and a 14.7% unemployment rate.
    A whopping 140,000 jobs were lost in December, trump's last full month in office,
    the first monthly loss since April.
    The US economy could use a jolt after GDP *DECREASED*a whopping 3.5% in 2020
    - its WORST DECLINE since 1946.

    thx to the global pandemic and in large part to rump and the rumplickers total mishandling of  it

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2021 - 7:55 PM ET #55

    10 abuses of power
    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    To chronicle Trump's most consequential abuses of power, CNN spoke with a politically diverse group
    of constitutional scholars, presidential historians and experts on democratic institutions.
    While these 16 experts did not agree on everything, there was consensus that Trump's pattern
    of abusing his powers for personal or political gain reached an alarming level that hasn't
    been seen in modern history

    ....more to follow...

    Reply

    10 abuses of power
    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    To chronicle Trump's most consequential abuses of power, CNN spoke with a politically diverse group
    of constitutional scholars, presidential historians and experts on democratic institutions.
    While these 16 experts did not agree on everything, there was consensus that Trump's pattern
    of abusing his powers for personal or political gain reached an alarming level that hasn't
    been seen in modern history

    ....more to follow...

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2021 - 10:42 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    #1: Subverting the 2020 election

    There is broad agreement among experts that Trump's most severe abuse of power
    was his relentless effort to undermine the 2020 election and overturn the legitimate results.
    Michael Paulsen, a conservative legal scholar and professor at the University of St. Thomas,
    in Minnesota, called it a "form of a political coup d'état against our Constitution."
    Throughout the 2020 campaign, Trump spread provably false disinformation about
    the voting process. He even floated the idea of unconstitutionally delaying the election,
    leading to a bipartisan rebuke.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    #1: Subverting the 2020 election

    There is broad agreement among experts that Trump's most severe abuse of power
    was his relentless effort to undermine the 2020 election and overturn the legitimate results.
    Michael Paulsen, a conservative legal scholar and professor at the University of St. Thomas,
    in Minnesota, called it a "form of a political coup d'état against our Constitution."
    Throughout the 2020 campaign, Trump spread provably false disinformation about
    the voting process. He even floated the idea of unconstitutionally delaying the election,
    leading to a bipartisan rebuke.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 10:38 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #1: Subverting the 2020 election

    There is broad agreement among experts that Trump's most severe abuse of power
    was his relentless effort to undermine the 2020 election and overturn the legitimate results.
    Michael Paulsen, a conservative legal scholar and professor at the University of St. Thomas,
    in Minnesota, called it a "form of a political coup d'état against our Constitution."
    Throughout the 2020 campaign, Trump spread provably false disinformation about
    the voting process. He even floated the idea of unconstitutionally delaying the election,
    leading to a bipartisan rebuke.

    obvious  peace_5

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #1: Subverting the 2020 election

    There is broad agreement among experts that Trump's most severe abuse of power
    was his relentless effort to undermine the 2020 election and overturn the legitimate results.
    Michael Paulsen, a conservative legal scholar and professor at the University of St. Thomas,
    in Minnesota, called it a "form of a political coup d'état against our Constitution."
    Throughout the 2020 campaign, Trump spread provably false disinformation about
    the voting process. He even floated the idea of unconstitutionally delaying the election,
    leading to a bipartisan rebuke.

    obvious  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 10:56 AM ET #58

    So now we censure the rights to free speech.

    What we have a committee of demo rats deciding what is real and what is false what can be stated and what can't

    Every campaign speech must go through an exciting process before it can be stated and heard...

    Russia has these policies as does China. Journalists will do life in prison for discussing the virus in China.

    Dissidents after the government poisoned them will die in the gulag ... At what point do we turn to these tactics of deciding what speech is allowed....

    Reply

    So now we censure the rights to free speech.

    What we have a committee of demo rats deciding what is real and what is false what can be stated and what can't

    Every campaign speech must go through an exciting process before it can be stated and heard...

    Russia has these policies as does China. Journalists will do life in prison for discussing the virus in China.

    Dissidents after the government poisoned them will die in the gulag ... At what point do we turn to these tactics of deciding what speech is allowed....

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 10:59 AM ET #59

    Why am I debating with child like clueless cut and paste parties position carry on.... You destroyed bidens presidency hats off...

    I going to try and figure something that doesn't lead to Hitler's return to power... You all watch Washington do nothing....

    Reply

    Why am I debating with child like clueless cut and paste parties position carry on.... You destroyed bidens presidency hats off...

    I going to try and figure something that doesn't lead to Hitler's return to power... You all watch Washington do nothing....

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 11:00 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #1: Subverting the 2020 election

    There is broad agreement among experts that Trump's most severe abuse of power
    was his relentless effort to undermine the 2020 election and overturn the legitimate results.
    Michael Paulsen, a conservative legal scholar and professor at the University of St. Thomas,
    in Minnesota, called it a "form of a political coup d'état against our Constitution."
    Throughout the 2020 campaign, Trump spread provably false disinformation about
    the voting process. He even floated the idea of unconstitutionally delaying the election,
    leading to a bipartisan rebuke.

     
     
    oddly enuf this may not be his worst abuse of power
    r  u  going to b writing these in descending order ?  like 1 is the worst  or just the first of many ??
    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #1: Subverting the 2020 election

    There is broad agreement among experts that Trump's most severe abuse of power
    was his relentless effort to undermine the 2020 election and overturn the legitimate results.
    Michael Paulsen, a conservative legal scholar and professor at the University of St. Thomas,
    in Minnesota, called it a "form of a political coup d'état against our Constitution."
    Throughout the 2020 campaign, Trump spread provably false disinformation about
    the voting process. He even floated the idea of unconstitutionally delaying the election,
    leading to a bipartisan rebuke.

     
     
    oddly enuf this may not be his worst abuse of power
    r  u  going to b writing these in descending order ?  like 1 is the worst  or just the first of many ??
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 11:16 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power, enabled and cheered by the right Analysis by Marshall Cohenhttps://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg To chronicle Trump's most consequential abuses of power, CNN spoke with a politically diverse groupof constitutional scholars, presidential historians and experts on democratic institutions.While these 16 experts did not agree on everything, there was consensus that Trump's patternof abusing his powers for personal or political gain reached an alarming level that hasn'tbeen seen in modern history ....more to follow...

     



    fubah2 ,r u going to b writing these in descending order ? like 1 is the worst or just the first of many ?

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power, enabled and cheered by the right Analysis by Marshall Cohenhttps://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg To chronicle Trump's most consequential abuses of power, CNN spoke with a politically diverse groupof constitutional scholars, presidential historians and experts on democratic institutions.While these 16 experts did not agree on everything, there was consensus that Trump's patternof abusing his powers for personal or political gain reached an alarming level that hasn'tbeen seen in modern history ....more to follow...

     



    fubah2 ,r u going to b writing these in descending order ? like 1 is the worst or just the first of many ?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2021 - 9:43 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    #2: Inciting an insurrection


    Trump's attempts to cling to power reached a horrifying crescendo on January 6,
    when he incited a large gathering of supporters in Washington to attack the US Capitol
    while the electoral votes were being counted.
    "This in and of itself puts Trump in the lowest circle of hell among America's presidents,
    along with the likes of James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson," Amar said.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    #2: Inciting an insurrection


    Trump's attempts to cling to power reached a horrifying crescendo on January 6,
    when he incited a large gathering of supporters in Washington to attack the US Capitol
    while the electoral votes were being counted.
    "This in and of itself puts Trump in the lowest circle of hell among America's presidents,
    along with the likes of James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson," Amar said.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2021 - 10:37 AM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    .

    #3: Abusing the bully pulpit


    Many of the experts pointed to Trump's inflammatory and divisive rhetoric as a stark abuse of power,
    albeit not criminal, and probably not impeachable either. But they said Trump abused the bully
    pulpit by using his platform to brazenly spread lies and conspiracies, attack political opponents of
    all stripes, and praise bad actors like white nationalists and authoritarian leaders.
    Many of Trump's comments debased the public discourse and were blatantly racist or fanned the
    flames of existing divisions. Others were detrimental to public health. Last year, he often downplayed
    the risks of Covid-19 and promoted unproven treatments. The experts said these were shameful
    misuses of his bully pulpit that literally put Americans in danger.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

    .

    #3: Abusing the bully pulpit


    Many of the experts pointed to Trump's inflammatory and divisive rhetoric as a stark abuse of power,
    albeit not criminal, and probably not impeachable either. But they said Trump abused the bully
    pulpit by using his platform to brazenly spread lies and conspiracies, attack political opponents of
    all stripes, and praise bad actors like white nationalists and authoritarian leaders.
    Many of Trump's comments debased the public discourse and were blatantly racist or fanned the
    flames of existing divisions. Others were detrimental to public health. Last year, he often downplayed
    the risks of Covid-19 and promoted unproven treatments. The experts said these were shameful
    misuses of his bully pulpit that literally put Americans in danger.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2021 - 6:52 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

    #4: Politicizing the Justice Department


    Trump politicized the Justice Department and FBI from the very start of his presidency until the final days.
    He repeatedly crossed lines and violated norms that have been in place since Watergate to create independence

    between the White House and federal law enforcement.


         "It's extremely important for the integrity of American democracy that the president cannot manipulate
          law enforcement for partisan, political, self-interested preferences," said Rick Pildes, a former CNN legal
          analyst who teaches at New York University.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

    #4: Politicizing the Justice Department


    Trump politicized the Justice Department and FBI from the very start of his presidency until the final days.
    He repeatedly crossed lines and violated norms that have been in place since Watergate to create independence

    between the White House and federal law enforcement.


         "It's extremely important for the integrity of American democracy that the president cannot manipulate
          law enforcement for partisan, political, self-interested preferences," said Rick Pildes, a former CNN legal
          analyst who teaches at New York University.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2021 - 10:13 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #2: Inciting an insurrection


    Trump's attempts to cling to power reached a horrifying crescendo on January 6,
    when he incited a large gathering of supporters in Washington to attack the US Capitol
    while the electoral votes were being counted.
    "This in and of itself puts Trump in the lowest circle of hell among America's presidents,
    along with the likes of James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson," Amar said.

     

    absolutely !

    rump incited this mob !  a few had come prepared for violence as we learned from various sources , but most others were incited by rump and other rumplickers , just like they stated for the record on videos and interviews

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #2: Inciting an insurrection


    Trump's attempts to cling to power reached a horrifying crescendo on January 6,
    when he incited a large gathering of supporters in Washington to attack the US Capitol
    while the electoral votes were being counted.
    "This in and of itself puts Trump in the lowest circle of hell among America's presidents,
    along with the likes of James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson," Amar said.

     

    absolutely !

    rump incited this mob !  a few had come prepared for violence as we learned from various sources , but most others were incited by rump and other rumplickers , just like they stated for the record on videos and interviews

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2021 - 11:04 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #2: Inciting an insurrection


    Trump's attempts to cling to power reached a horrifying crescendo on January 6,
    when he incited a large gathering of supporters in Washington to attack the US Capitol
    while the electoral votes were being counted.
    "This in and of itself puts Trump in the lowest circle of hell among America's presidents,
    along with the likes of James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson," Amar said.

     

     

     

    absolutely !

    rump incited this mob !  a few had come prepared for violence as we learned from various sources , but most others were incited by rump and other rumplickers , just like they stated for the record on videos and interviews

    Several videos of both the live Capitol terrorist attack and subsequent interviews of rioters lays this truth bare for all to see, conclusively.........those who don't wear partisan blinders......and/or those who are otherwise believers in the THE BIG LIE and the Lock Ness monster  and Bigfoot  and the 'demon sperm' doctor, etc, etc

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen
    https://tinyurl.com/yy6v8mgg

     

     

    #2: Inciting an insurrection


    Trump's attempts to cling to power reached a horrifying crescendo on January 6,
    when he incited a large gathering of supporters in Washington to attack the US Capitol
    while the electoral votes were being counted.
    "This in and of itself puts Trump in the lowest circle of hell among America's presidents,
    along with the likes of James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson," Amar said.

     

     

     

    absolutely !

    rump incited this mob !  a few had come prepared for violence as we learned from various sources , but most others were incited by rump and other rumplickers , just like they stated for the record on videos and interviews

    Several videos of both the live Capitol terrorist attack and subsequent interviews of rioters lays this truth bare for all to see, conclusively.........those who don't wear partisan blinders......and/or those who are otherwise believers in the THE BIG LIE and the Lock Ness monster  and Bigfoot  and the 'demon sperm' doctor, etc, etc

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2021 - 2:48 AM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen

     

    #5: Obstructing the Mueller investigation


    The Mueller investigation dominated the first three years of Trump's presidency.
    Angry over an investigation that he felt was illegitimate, Trump repeatedly lashed out at Mueller
    and took steps to undermine and obstruct the sprawling criminal probe. Mueller investigated
    10 episodes and found persuasive evidence that
    Trump's actions did fit the legal criteria to warrant criminal charges.
    Mueller famously said,
    "If we had had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen

     

    #5: Obstructing the Mueller investigation


    The Mueller investigation dominated the first three years of Trump's presidency.
    Angry over an investigation that he felt was illegitimate, Trump repeatedly lashed out at Mueller
    and took steps to undermine and obstruct the sprawling criminal probe. Mueller investigated
    10 episodes and found persuasive evidence that
    Trump's actions did fit the legal criteria to warrant criminal charges.
    Mueller famously said,
    "If we had had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2021 - 10:05 AM ET #68

    Impeachment trial reveals capital riot is far worser than initially shown.  Not just about Trump abuse of power and obstruction of justice.  Trial is about the near overthrow of government, deaths of 5 people and assault on law enforcement.  The crime of the decade by inciter-in-chief Trump.

    Reply

    Impeachment trial reveals capital riot is far worser than initially shown.  Not just about Trump abuse of power and obstruction of justice.  Trial is about the near overthrow of government, deaths of 5 people and assault on law enforcement.  The crime of the decade by inciter-in-chief Trump.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2021 - 11:46 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    #3: Abusing the bully pulpit


    Many of the experts pointed to Trump's inflammatory and divisive rhetoric as a stark abuse of power,
    albeit not criminal, and probably not impeachable either. But they said Trump abused the bully
    pulpit by using his platform to brazenly spread lies and conspiracies, attack political opponents of
    all stripes, and praise bad actors like white nationalists and authoritarian leaders.
    Many of Trump's comments debased the public discourse and were blatantly racist or fanned the
    flames of existing divisions. Others were detrimental to public health. Last year, he often downplayed
    the risks of Covid-19 and promoted unproven treatments. The experts said these were shameful
    misuses of his bully pulpit that literally put Americans in danger.

     

    last line is most important   an_light

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    #3: Abusing the bully pulpit


    Many of the experts pointed to Trump's inflammatory and divisive rhetoric as a stark abuse of power,
    albeit not criminal, and probably not impeachable either. But they said Trump abused the bully
    pulpit by using his platform to brazenly spread lies and conspiracies, attack political opponents of
    all stripes, and praise bad actors like white nationalists and authoritarian leaders.
    Many of Trump's comments debased the public discourse and were blatantly racist or fanned the
    flames of existing divisions. Others were detrimental to public health. Last year, he often downplayed
    the risks of Covid-19 and promoted unproven treatments. The experts said these were shameful
    misuses of his bully pulpit that literally put Americans in danger.

     

    last line is most important   an_light

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2021 - 3:57 PM ET #70

    57% of senate vote that rump is guilty as charged thumbs_up

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    57% of senate vote that rump is guilty as charged thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2021 - 4:11 PM ET #71

    Yes,   seven GOP members with a soul did the right thing.   43 cowards refused.

    Who were those members with a soul?

    Reply

    Yes,   seven GOP members with a soul did the right thing.   43 cowards refused.

    Who were those members with a soul?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2021 - 4:52 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen

    #6: Abusing the pardon power


    The Constitution places almost no limits on presidential commutations and pardons
    for federal crimes, and many past presidents have granted controversial pardons,
    especially in their final weeks in office. But the experts agreed that Trump took this
    phenomenon to new extremes.
    Mueller found some evidence that Trump obstructed justice by publicly urging ex-aides
    not to cooperate and dangling pardons in exchange for loyalty. Trump closed the loop
    in December 2020 by pardoning former aides Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn
    and George Papadopoulos, who were convicted of lying or obstructing the Mueller probe,
    among other crimes.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump's 10 worst abuses of power,
    enabled and cheered by the right

    Analysis by Marshall Cohen

    #6: Abusing the pardon power


    The Constitution places almost no limits on presidential commutations and pardons
    for federal crimes, and many past presidents have granted controversial pardons,
    especially in their final weeks in office. But the experts agreed that Trump took this
    phenomenon to new extremes.
    Mueller found some evidence that Trump obstructed justice by publicly urging ex-aides
    not to cooperate and dangling pardons in exchange for loyalty. Trump closed the loop
    in December 2020 by pardoning former aides Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn
    and George Papadopoulos, who were convicted of lying or obstructing the Mueller probe,
    among other crimes.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2021 - 5:15 PM ET #73

    483,448     Americans  have SUFFERED horribly,   then DIED  

    from the deadly contagion that trump and his accomplices downplayed then   an_light
    allowed to proliferate throughout the nation.

        *Millions more SUFFERED illness, sometimes very severe, but survived.

    trump's incompetence and criminal negligence has now killed more Americans
    than were lost in combat in Korea, Vietnam, WWI and WWII *combined*     

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    483,448     Americans  have SUFFERED horribly,   then DIED  

    from the deadly contagion that trump and his accomplices downplayed then   an_light
    allowed to proliferate throughout the nation.

        *Millions more SUFFERED illness, sometimes very severe, but survived.

    trump's incompetence and criminal negligence has now killed more Americans
    than were lost in combat in Korea, Vietnam, WWI and WWII *combined*     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2021 - 8:29 PM ET #74

    #7: The Ukraine affair and cover-up


    Trump is one of three presidents to get impeached, a fate he first faced in 2019 after
    pressuring the Ukrainian government to help his reelection campaign by announcing a
    baseless investigation into the Bidens. As part of the scheme, Trump unlawfully withheld
    nearly $400 million in much-needed military aid from Ukraine, even though Congress
    appropriated the funds with bipartisan support.
    "This clearly looked like an extremely inappropriate quid-pro-quo offer," said Susan Rose-Ackerman,
    a law professor at Yale University who has written books about political corruption.

    Reply

    #7: The Ukraine affair and cover-up


    Trump is one of three presidents to get impeached, a fate he first faced in 2019 after
    pressuring the Ukrainian government to help his reelection campaign by announcing a
    baseless investigation into the Bidens. As part of the scheme, Trump unlawfully withheld
    nearly $400 million in much-needed military aid from Ukraine, even though Congress
    appropriated the funds with bipartisan support.
    "This clearly looked like an extremely inappropriate quid-pro-quo offer," said Susan Rose-Ackerman,
    a law professor at Yale University who has written books about political corruption.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 16, 2021 - 8:17 PM ET #75

    Recently, Siena survey of historians rank Trump as 44th best president out of 46 presidents.  Just ahead of Andrew Johnson and Buchanan.  Trump ranks lowest in integrity, intelligence and overall ability.  Highest rank is in luck category.  Some other presidents rank as follows.  Obama 17th best.  George W. Bush 34th.  Clinton 15th.  Reagan 13th.  Kennedy 10th.  Lincoln 3rd.  F. Roosevelt 2nd.  Washington 1st.

    Reply

    Recently, Siena survey of historians rank Trump as 44th best president out of 46 presidents.  Just ahead of Andrew Johnson and Buchanan.  Trump ranks lowest in integrity, intelligence and overall ability.  Highest rank is in luck category.  Some other presidents rank as follows.  Obama 17th best.  George W. Bush 34th.  Clinton 15th.  Reagan 13th.  Kennedy 10th.  Lincoln 3rd.  F. Roosevelt 2nd.  Washington 1st.

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