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    Trump in Davos speech!

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    joe pockets
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 10:48 AM ET #1

    A tale of two speeches in Davos. Carney’s was measured, considered and a clear but stark assessment of global affairs. Trump? WTF?! How can people sit there and listen to the shit he spews. Hopefully Republicans realize someone needs to swap out the nuclear football with a fake one !

    It’s almost impossible to believe he exists. It’s as if we took everything that was bad about America, scraped it up off the floor, wrapped it all up in an old hot dog skin, and then taught it to make noises with its face.”

    –Anthony Citrano

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    A tale of two speeches in Davos. Carney’s was measured, considered and a clear but stark assessment of global affairs. Trump? WTF?! How can people sit there and listen to the shit he spews. Hopefully Republicans realize someone needs to swap out the nuclear football with a fake one !

    It’s almost impossible to believe he exists. It’s as if we took everything that was bad about America, scraped it up off the floor, wrapped it all up in an old hot dog skin, and then taught it to make noises with its face.”

    –Anthony Citrano

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 10:56 AM ET #2

    lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Still talking about biden, its down right comical.  Yes world leaders really care about the nick names this career criminal con artist gives one of Our Former Presidents. Iam actually so sick of looking at this guy and listening to the total bullshit that comes out of his mouth, like our economy is booming the worlds greatest ever.

    Hate to say this, but all the other countries should just black ball this loser and make him go off the deep end even more.

    Trump is creating a new nato type group, with him as the leader forever. It costs 1 billion to join, lolllllllllll

    On another note, the money trumps steals from the Venezuela peoples oil is being deposited into an account in Qatar with trump in control of the account. Can this guy be any bigger of a criminal?  Only way this guy can be stopped is if millions of people show up at the white house

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    lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Still talking about biden, its down right comical.  Yes world leaders really care about the nick names this career criminal con artist gives one of Our Former Presidents. Iam actually so sick of looking at this guy and listening to the total bullshit that comes out of his mouth, like our economy is booming the worlds greatest ever.

    Hate to say this, but all the other countries should just black ball this loser and make him go off the deep end even more.

    Trump is creating a new nato type group, with him as the leader forever. It costs 1 billion to join, lolllllllllll

    On another note, the money trumps steals from the Venezuela peoples oil is being deposited into an account in Qatar with trump in control of the account. Can this guy be any bigger of a criminal?  Only way this guy can be stopped is if millions of people show up at the white house

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 12:23 PM ET #3

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     Trump lacks certain qualities expected in American President! For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. I’ll never understand the connection that a third of our nation’s votes have with him? It is possible they are without the same qualities that he is ! The disconnect is Trump was born to a family of substantial wealth! A large proportion of the MAGA crowd wasn’t and as he and his family gets wealthier in billions they are stagnant or heading backwards!…… And rest assured come November 8th when the congressional rubber stamp stops I expect the Epstein files to be nonexistent !

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    @cd329

     Trump lacks certain qualities expected in American President! For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. I’ll never understand the connection that a third of our nation’s votes have with him? It is possible they are without the same qualities that he is ! The disconnect is Trump was born to a family of substantial wealth! A large proportion of the MAGA crowd wasn’t and as he and his family gets wealthier in billions they are stagnant or heading backwards!…… And rest assured come November 8th when the congressional rubber stamp stops I expect the Epstein files to be nonexistent !

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 12:40 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    A tale of two speeches in Davos. Carney’s was measured, considered and a clear but stark assessment of global affairs. Trump? WTF?! How can people sit there and listen to the shit he spews. Hopefully Republicans realize someone needs to swap out the nuclear football with a fake one ! It’s almost impossible to believe he exists. It’s as if we took everything that was bad about America, scraped it up off the floor, wrapped it all up in an old hot dog skin, and then taught it to make noises with its face.” –Anthony Citrano
    an_roll_laughI luv this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    A tale of two speeches in Davos. Carney’s was measured, considered and a clear but stark assessment of global affairs. Trump? WTF?! How can people sit there and listen to the shit he spews. Hopefully Republicans realize someone needs to swap out the nuclear football with a fake one ! It’s almost impossible to believe he exists. It’s as if we took everything that was bad about America, scraped it up off the floor, wrapped it all up in an old hot dog skin, and then taught it to make noises with its face.” –Anthony Citrano
    an_roll_laughI luv this...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 12:45 PM ET #5

    Speaking of Davos..... here is a good nugget: 

    "Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris. He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros, and Davos is a perfect place for a man who, when everyone else is on lockdown, when he was having people arrested for going to church."

    BOOM!  an_roll_laugh

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Speaking of Davos..... here is a good nugget: 

    "Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken, may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris. He's here this week with his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros, and Davos is a perfect place for a man who, when everyone else is on lockdown, when he was having people arrested for going to church."

    BOOM!  an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 1:20 PM ET #6

    Don't get me started on Newsom....my home State so I know all too well about this humdingeran_arsed

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    Don't get me started on Newsom....my home State so I know all too well about this humdingeran_arsed

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 2:21 PM ET #7

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     He's a cockroach.

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    @ABooksNightmare

     He's a cockroach.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 7:40 PM ET #8

    CNN debunks many of Trump claims from his speech.  He lies about US economy, prices, inflation, investment, international affairs, wars, elections, California water policy, fentanyl deaths, gulf of Mexico and others.  For Trump, constant lying is essential but truth does not matter.

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    CNN debunks many of Trump claims from his speech.  He lies about US economy, prices, inflation, investment, international affairs, wars, elections, California water policy, fentanyl deaths, gulf of Mexico and others.  For Trump, constant lying is essential but truth does not matter.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 7:55 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @ABooksNightmare  He's a cockroach.

     

    I didn’t watch this meeting as I couldn’t be bothered - but what did he say apart from EU leaders should toughen up on Trump? (I saw a clip of that part) - but how can that be bad for the American public ? Trump has basically dismantled every pretence - you have any kind of law and order - for starters he has still not released the Epstein files - and he threatens Congress members to vote accordingly against their own and US citizens wishes ! And EU is an institution that has the means to hurt your country if we wanted to - that is just plain facts 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

    @ABooksNightmare  He's a cockroach.

     

    I didn’t watch this meeting as I couldn’t be bothered - but what did he say apart from EU leaders should toughen up on Trump? (I saw a clip of that part) - but how can that be bad for the American public ? Trump has basically dismantled every pretence - you have any kind of law and order - for starters he has still not released the Epstein files - and he threatens Congress members to vote accordingly against their own and US citizens wishes ! And EU is an institution that has the means to hurt your country if we wanted to - that is just plain facts 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 8:03 PM ET #10

    The only thing I am mad about with this is that we again had to waste time on Trumps tantrum - rather than we could fix stuff like Ukraine etc. So I would actually be all for it to hurt you at least a little at this point economically - just for wasting our time 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    The only thing I am mad about with this is that we again had to waste time on Trumps tantrum - rather than we could fix stuff like Ukraine etc. So I would actually be all for it to hurt you at least a little at this point economically - just for wasting our time 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 8:52 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    The only thing I am mad about with this is that we again had to waste time on Trumps tantrum - rather than we could fix stuff like Ukraine etc. So I would actually be all for it to hurt you at least a little at this point economically - just for wasting our time
    Who's "we"? an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    The only thing I am mad about with this is that we again had to waste time on Trumps tantrum - rather than we could fix stuff like Ukraine etc. So I would actually be all for it to hurt you at least a little at this point economically - just for wasting our time
    Who's "we"? an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 9:04 PM ET #12

    Everyone but Trump - wtf do you mean ? Why the fuck do we need to waste time on your fullgrown baby  - you have nothing in this deal that wasn’t there before all this shit went down - wouldn’t you also be interested in your leader accomplishing something? He could maybe try fix your food prices and let the adults discuss how we try combating a war with the biggest nuclear nation on the planet 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Everyone but Trump - wtf do you mean ? Why the fuck do we need to waste time on your fullgrown baby  - you have nothing in this deal that wasn’t there before all this shit went down - wouldn’t you also be interested in your leader accomplishing something? He could maybe try fix your food prices and let the adults discuss how we try combating a war with the biggest nuclear nation on the planet 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 9:31 PM ET #13

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     WTF do you think he's trying to do? Good lord, you sit back & let the US do all your heavy lifting. The euro's weren't even carrying their share of the load til Trump called them out. Don't start this "we" shit......if the US walks away you best brush up on your Russian.

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    @Calde13

     WTF do you think he's trying to do? Good lord, you sit back & let the US do all your heavy lifting. The euro's weren't even carrying their share of the load til Trump called them out. Don't start this "we" shit......if the US walks away you best brush up on your Russian.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 9:38 PM ET #14

    NATO & Denmark: We will give you the exact same security arrangements you have had for the past 40 years in Greenland.

    TACO: I knew I would wear you down! Art of the Deal baby!

     

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    NATO & Denmark: We will give you the exact same security arrangements you have had for the past 40 years in Greenland.

    TACO: I knew I would wear you down! Art of the Deal baby!

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 9:51 PM ET #15

    Trump said; 

    The West cannot mass import foreign cultures."

    "The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot mass import foreign cultures which have failed to ever build a successful society of their own," he said. "We're taking people from Somalia, and Somalia is a failed [state]. It's not a nation, got no government, got no police, got no military, got no nothing. 

    The explosion of prosperity, in conclusion, and progress that built the West did not come from our tax cuts. It ultimately came from our very special culture. This is the precious inheritance that America and Europe have in common. "

    Sounds just like Denmark. They have avoided mass import of foreigners, requires them to adopt to the nations culture, learn the language, and requires that they not makeup more than 28% of any local population. One would think the Danes would say Trump is right. 

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    Trump said; 

    The West cannot mass import foreign cultures."

    "The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot mass import foreign cultures which have failed to ever build a successful society of their own," he said. "We're taking people from Somalia, and Somalia is a failed [state]. It's not a nation, got no government, got no police, got no military, got no nothing. 

    The explosion of prosperity, in conclusion, and progress that built the West did not come from our tax cuts. It ultimately came from our very special culture. This is the precious inheritance that America and Europe have in common. "

    Sounds just like Denmark. They have avoided mass import of foreigners, requires them to adopt to the nations culture, learn the language, and requires that they not makeup more than 28% of any local population. One would think the Danes would say Trump is right. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2026 - 10:02 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Trump said;  The West cannot mass import foreign cultures." "The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot mass import foreign cultures which have failed to ever build a successful society of their own," he said. "We're taking people from Somalia, and Somalia is a failed [state]. It's not a nation, got no government, got no police, got no military, got no nothing.  The explosion of prosperity, in conclusion, and progress that built the West did not come from our tax cuts. It ultimately came from our very special culture. This is the precious inheritance that America and Europe have in common. " Sounds just like Denmark. They have avoided mass import of foreigners, requires them to adopt to the nations culture, learn the language, and requires that they not makeup more than 28% of any local population. One would think the Danes would say Trump is right.

    You forgot the part where the Fraudfather said Somalis (not Somolians like your boy said) are low IQ.

      

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Trump said;  The West cannot mass import foreign cultures." "The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot mass import foreign cultures which have failed to ever build a successful society of their own," he said. "We're taking people from Somalia, and Somalia is a failed [state]. It's not a nation, got no government, got no police, got no military, got no nothing.  The explosion of prosperity, in conclusion, and progress that built the West did not come from our tax cuts. It ultimately came from our very special culture. This is the precious inheritance that America and Europe have in common. " Sounds just like Denmark. They have avoided mass import of foreigners, requires them to adopt to the nations culture, learn the language, and requires that they not makeup more than 28% of any local population. One would think the Danes would say Trump is right.

    You forgot the part where the Fraudfather said Somalis (not Somolians like your boy said) are low IQ.

      

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2026 - 12:24 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @Calde13  WTF do you think he's trying to do? Good lord, you sit back & let the US do all your heavy lifting. The euro's weren't even carrying their share of the load til Trump called them out. Don't start this "we" shit......if the US walks away you best brush up on your Russian.

    You are trying to sell us to the Russians - if that is what you mean 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    @Calde13  WTF do you think he's trying to do? Good lord, you sit back & let the US do all your heavy lifting. The euro's weren't even carrying their share of the load til Trump called them out. Don't start this "we" shit......if the US walks away you best brush up on your Russian.

    You are trying to sell us to the Russians - if that is what you mean 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Trump said;  The West cannot mass import foreign cultures." "The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot mass import foreign cultures which have failed to ever build a successful society of their own," he said. "We're taking people from Somalia, and Somalia is a failed [state]. It's not a nation, got no government, got no police, got no military, got no nothing.  The explosion of prosperity, in conclusion, and progress that built the West did not come from our tax cuts. It ultimately came from our very special culture. This is the precious inheritance that America and Europe have in common. " Sounds just like Denmark. They have avoided mass import of foreigners, requires them to adopt to the nations culture, learn the language, and requires that they not makeup more than 28% of any local population. One would think the Danes would say Trump is right.

     

    Our immigrants are someone we have “had” to take in - because they were people fleeing warzones - else we pretty much decline everyone at the “border” including white Americans btw unless people have a purpose here - work permit etc. ! That is not racism - that is basically just accepting the fact that Europe has more people than it can handle already - mate we are double your population and we are smaller than you - imagine if you went into New York and you would have to the double the population - talk about the problems you face now - with traffic, providing works for everyone, providing houses etc. 

    If you ever get to the point where you have to house all of South America and Canadas population within US borders (which would be equalivent to our population) then I promise to defend your case that you don’t do it because you are a racist douchebag

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Trump said;  The West cannot mass import foreign cultures." "The situation in Minnesota reminds us that the West cannot mass import foreign cultures which have failed to ever build a successful society of their own," he said. "We're taking people from Somalia, and Somalia is a failed [state]. It's not a nation, got no government, got no police, got no military, got no nothing.  The explosion of prosperity, in conclusion, and progress that built the West did not come from our tax cuts. It ultimately came from our very special culture. This is the precious inheritance that America and Europe have in common. " Sounds just like Denmark. They have avoided mass import of foreigners, requires them to adopt to the nations culture, learn the language, and requires that they not makeup more than 28% of any local population. One would think the Danes would say Trump is right.

     

    Our immigrants are someone we have “had” to take in - because they were people fleeing warzones - else we pretty much decline everyone at the “border” including white Americans btw unless people have a purpose here - work permit etc. ! That is not racism - that is basically just accepting the fact that Europe has more people than it can handle already - mate we are double your population and we are smaller than you - imagine if you went into New York and you would have to the double the population - talk about the problems you face now - with traffic, providing works for everyone, providing houses etc. 

    If you ever get to the point where you have to house all of South America and Canadas population within US borders (which would be equalivent to our population) then I promise to defend your case that you don’t do it because you are a racist douchebag

     
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    Btw I love your guys go to - of a dystopian world is if I have to speak another language - not realising I am also speaking another language than my own with you an_popcorn That was the only other clip I saw from this where Trump says we would speak German if not for you - literally saying that in a country where the main language is German an_speechless that will become a meme eventually 

    Btw don’t worry about me mate if Russia that we outnumber 5 to 1 and economical 25-1 ever takes us over - when you leave us an_violin I am already fluent in Russian and 8 other languages - so I can be taken over by a few countries without that being my main worryan_cheers

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    Btw I love your guys go to - of a dystopian world is if I have to speak another language - not realising I am also speaking another language than my own with you an_popcorn That was the only other clip I saw from this where Trump says we would speak German if not for you - literally saying that in a country where the main language is German an_speechless that will become a meme eventually 

    Btw don’t worry about me mate if Russia that we outnumber 5 to 1 and economical 25-1 ever takes us over - when you leave us an_violin I am already fluent in Russian and 8 other languages - so I can be taken over by a few countries without that being my main worryan_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    A tale of two speeches in Davos. Carney’s was measured, considered and a clear but stark assessment of global affairs. Trump? WTF?! How can people sit there and listen to the shit he spews.

    Canada prime minister warns of world rules based order fading.  Warning that powerful nations use economic tools as weapons.  Urging middle powers to unite to shape global system.  Democracies don't need to appease bullies.  Intimidation is not strength and chaos is not leadership.  Economic stability depends on trust.  Global cooperation depends on rules.  Asserting that seriousness still matters and adults are still in the room.

    After biggest decline in stock markets since last October, TACO Trump flip flops on tariffs and military threat to Greenland.  But the damage has already been done.  Europe no longer trusts the US and rejects joining board of peace for Gaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    A tale of two speeches in Davos. Carney’s was measured, considered and a clear but stark assessment of global affairs. Trump? WTF?! How can people sit there and listen to the shit he spews.

    Canada prime minister warns of world rules based order fading.  Warning that powerful nations use economic tools as weapons.  Urging middle powers to unite to shape global system.  Democracies don't need to appease bullies.  Intimidation is not strength and chaos is not leadership.  Economic stability depends on trust.  Global cooperation depends on rules.  Asserting that seriousness still matters and adults are still in the room.

    After biggest decline in stock markets since last October, TACO Trump flip flops on tariffs and military threat to Greenland.  But the damage has already been done.  Europe no longer trusts the US and rejects joining board of peace for Gaza.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2026 - 11:01 AM ET #21

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     Maybe watch to many movie ! How long will conservatives use the Alex Soros card when anything is funded contrary to there beliefs? But it just fine for the Koch brothers. If we lived in a perfect world all three of their voices would each be no more powerful than my own. As it is, I can’t feel too bad about it since we seem to have the lesser share of billionaires on our side. In regards to a political figure having a sponsors JD Vance would not be where he is without Peter Thiel ! I’d take the governor of California over Trump at this point without any reflection on the matter! Trump today is what he has been his whole live! A despicable human being that is the living image on the Seven Deadly Sins ! Find a little time for the Good Book and a less of the boob tube!….Fox News more then 10 minutes a day is bad for health!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

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    @kcblitzkrieg

     Maybe watch to many movie ! How long will conservatives use the Alex Soros card when anything is funded contrary to there beliefs? But it just fine for the Koch brothers. If we lived in a perfect world all three of their voices would each be no more powerful than my own. As it is, I can’t feel too bad about it since we seem to have the lesser share of billionaires on our side. In regards to a political figure having a sponsors JD Vance would not be where he is without Peter Thiel ! I’d take the governor of California over Trump at this point without any reflection on the matter! Trump today is what he has been his whole live! A despicable human being that is the living image on the Seven Deadly Sins ! Find a little time for the Good Book and a less of the boob tube!….Fox News more then 10 minutes a day is bad for health!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

     
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    @thirdperson

    Its easier and less time consuming to find truth in any Trump statement he makes !

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    @thirdperson

    Its easier and less time consuming to find truth in any Trump statement he makes !

     
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    @UNIMAN

    The West cannot mass import foreign cultures."


     For 5 million dollars a person we do! With a smile on top !

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    @UNIMAN

    The West cannot mass import foreign cultures."


     For 5 million dollars a person we do! With a smile on top !

     
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    @joe pockets

     But it just fine for the Koch brothers. If we lived in a perfect world all three of their voices would each be no more powerful than my own. As it is, I can’t feel too bad about it since we seem to have the lesser share of billionaires on our side.

    I am not disagreeing with you.  I agree that too many of the billionaires seem to use their money and influence for a self-serving reason.

    There are plenty of guys that have influence on both sides, whether it is Musk, Bloomberg, Gates, Bezos, Soros, Buffet, Ellison.  

    I think a lot of them, maybe even most, have good intentions and truly want the best for the country.  

    I think folks just tend to listen to the ones they align with more.

    My issue is that when we all say that our voice should be just as powerful as theirs, I wonder if that is really good.

    Most folks have a family and job and too many responsibilities to really be knowledgebale enough on many of the key subjects to have a responsible voice.

    Most of these guys have a really solid business knowledge.  They are also intelligent in a general sense.  

    But I am not so sure how much of a voice they should have in areas they clearly are not true 'experts' in.  

    Is Gates really the guy that should be pushing pandemic advice, even though I am certain that he means well.

    Is Ellison really the guy that should be allowed to own, and hence, control so much of the media and social media like TikTok.  There is always going to be a question that he is pushing his agenda.

    Think about Soros and Bloomberg or Musk and Zuckerberg having too much influence.

    Even though a lot of these guys are very well-rounded in many subjects and very intelligent, I sometimes think they have too much of a sense of what they think they know is best for everyone else.

    It is one thing for lawyers, business owners, health providers, and education folks to have a voice in what we know are their fields of expertise.

    We may not agree with them or their agenda.  But at least we recognize that it is their field of expertise.

    But just because someone is wealthy and successful and smart -- should they have an over-abundance of say and influence.

    On the other hand, you can make a very good argument that the West and the USA was built on the knowledge from these well-rounded renaissance type of guys.

    That is why I have such issue with the lobby and PAC groups.

    But if the average person cannot be bothered enough to study up on the issues (or does not have time or the ability to digest the subject) should we simply leave it up to the people that do.

    It is such a tricky subject because the average person has become so much less informed over time through laziness or lack of a good education system.  So, now folks have to rely more and more on social media and friends to make their minds up for them.

    Then folks are still 'overly' influenced by these same wealthy folks even if they did not have the direct ear of the politicians.

    Sometimes you have to question if everyone should really have a voice if they are not clearly informed or are easily swayed.

    That is my rant on a very good point you make above.

    peace_5

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     But it just fine for the Koch brothers. If we lived in a perfect world all three of their voices would each be no more powerful than my own. As it is, I can’t feel too bad about it since we seem to have the lesser share of billionaires on our side.

    I am not disagreeing with you.  I agree that too many of the billionaires seem to use their money and influence for a self-serving reason.

    There are plenty of guys that have influence on both sides, whether it is Musk, Bloomberg, Gates, Bezos, Soros, Buffet, Ellison.  

    I think a lot of them, maybe even most, have good intentions and truly want the best for the country.  

    I think folks just tend to listen to the ones they align with more.

    My issue is that when we all say that our voice should be just as powerful as theirs, I wonder if that is really good.

    Most folks have a family and job and too many responsibilities to really be knowledgebale enough on many of the key subjects to have a responsible voice.

    Most of these guys have a really solid business knowledge.  They are also intelligent in a general sense.  

    But I am not so sure how much of a voice they should have in areas they clearly are not true 'experts' in.  

    Is Gates really the guy that should be pushing pandemic advice, even though I am certain that he means well.

    Is Ellison really the guy that should be allowed to own, and hence, control so much of the media and social media like TikTok.  There is always going to be a question that he is pushing his agenda.

    Think about Soros and Bloomberg or Musk and Zuckerberg having too much influence.

    Even though a lot of these guys are very well-rounded in many subjects and very intelligent, I sometimes think they have too much of a sense of what they think they know is best for everyone else.

    It is one thing for lawyers, business owners, health providers, and education folks to have a voice in what we know are their fields of expertise.

    We may not agree with them or their agenda.  But at least we recognize that it is their field of expertise.

    But just because someone is wealthy and successful and smart -- should they have an over-abundance of say and influence.

    On the other hand, you can make a very good argument that the West and the USA was built on the knowledge from these well-rounded renaissance type of guys.

    That is why I have such issue with the lobby and PAC groups.

    But if the average person cannot be bothered enough to study up on the issues (or does not have time or the ability to digest the subject) should we simply leave it up to the people that do.

    It is such a tricky subject because the average person has become so much less informed over time through laziness or lack of a good education system.  So, now folks have to rely more and more on social media and friends to make their minds up for them.

    Then folks are still 'overly' influenced by these same wealthy folks even if they did not have the direct ear of the politicians.

    Sometimes you have to question if everyone should really have a voice if they are not clearly informed or are easily swayed.

    That is my rant on a very good point you make above.

    peace_5

     
     
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    On her Substack platform Thursday, Mary Trump analyzed her uncle's current position, attributing his struggles to multiple compounding factors. "Given the perfect storm of his incompetence, increasing decline across several categories (the psychological, the cognitive, and the physical); and the sense that he is losing control—over himself and the narrative—and the desperation that goes along with that, it was perhaps inevitable that humiliation has come to stalk him at every turn."

    Mary Trump described Trump's nearly 90-minute speech as "a mélange of threats, unfounded and ahistorical grievances," arguing it demonstrates significant psychological deterioration. "We do not need any more proof that Donald is a deeply psychiatrically disordered man, but if we did, more evidence can be found every day in his outbursts, his hypersomnia, his alarming lack of impulse control, and his increasingly obvious deviance and corruption."

    She directed blame toward Trump's inner circle and congressional allies. "The silence of Donald's enablers is tantamount to complicity. Their unwavering dedication to a madman and an agenda that threatens to destabilize America domestically and internationally tells us everything we need to know about what we are fighting against and against whom we need to wage the fight."

    As the kid announcer said "BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE." IT'S A CLAASIC

     

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    On her Substack platform Thursday, Mary Trump analyzed her uncle's current position, attributing his struggles to multiple compounding factors. "Given the perfect storm of his incompetence, increasing decline across several categories (the psychological, the cognitive, and the physical); and the sense that he is losing control—over himself and the narrative—and the desperation that goes along with that, it was perhaps inevitable that humiliation has come to stalk him at every turn."

    Mary Trump described Trump's nearly 90-minute speech as "a mélange of threats, unfounded and ahistorical grievances," arguing it demonstrates significant psychological deterioration. "We do not need any more proof that Donald is a deeply psychiatrically disordered man, but if we did, more evidence can be found every day in his outbursts, his hypersomnia, his alarming lack of impulse control, and his increasingly obvious deviance and corruption."

    She directed blame toward Trump's inner circle and congressional allies. "The silence of Donald's enablers is tantamount to complicity. Their unwavering dedication to a madman and an agenda that threatens to destabilize America domestically and internationally tells us everything we need to know about what we are fighting against and against whom we need to wage the fight."

    As the kid announcer said "BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE." IT'S A CLAASIC

     

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