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    Snorkel
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2019 - 5:39 AM ET #26

    To all in this posting in this section - Good work fellas - Good banner - We all do agree on one thing -

    This is a romper room atmosphere in D.C - Someone left the asylum door open. Kudo's to all and I'm out

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    To all in this posting in this section - Good work fellas - Good banner - We all do agree on one thing -

    This is a romper room atmosphere in D.C - Someone left the asylum door open. Kudo's to all and I'm out

     
    Snorkel
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2019 - 5:48 AM ET #27

    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee

    that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a

    non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.

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    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee

    that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a

    non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2019 - 11:19 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee

    that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a

    non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.


    Here's a different view...   I don't need my way of life improved.  Everything is fine, no matter who has been in office the last 20+ years of my adult life.  What I do need are good interest rates in the bank for my savings accounts, the long-standing 1-2% are a joke and a sickening loss of major money over the years.  I need material costs for building new construction to not jump up because of tariffs or trade wars.  30% jumps are not acceptable or sustainable.  I need stability and confidence knowing that my SS and Medicare will be there for me when I reach the age (my parents are just starting this now).  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee

    that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a

    non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.


    Here's a different view...   I don't need my way of life improved.  Everything is fine, no matter who has been in office the last 20+ years of my adult life.  What I do need are good interest rates in the bank for my savings accounts, the long-standing 1-2% are a joke and a sickening loss of major money over the years.  I need material costs for building new construction to not jump up because of tariffs or trade wars.  30% jumps are not acceptable or sustainable.  I need stability and confidence knowing that my SS and Medicare will be there for me when I reach the age (my parents are just starting this now).  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2019 - 12:35 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.

    Like Double, I am financially secure & my children will be the same when my wife & I pass on to a better life.

    However, I want my children & grandchildren to never worry about health care & the extraordinary costs associated with it. Losing care due to pre-existing conditions would be devastating for most Americans.

    The end of Medicare & Medicaid as we know it . Sure there are abuses in Medicaid & I want those addressed. I also want the generational concept that the government should take care of irresponsible Americans popping out puppies ended. 

    The rebirth of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau will not take place with Republicans in power.

    I want immigrants to get a fair shake to pursue the American dream that many people believe is dead. I do not believe it is dead. 

    These are off the top of my head & now it's time for football!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Sorry, just one more thing - Still no one has givin me one policy that they agree with for the upcoming Democratic nominee that will improve your way of life!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE - I am only asking for one that will sway me to vote Democratic. Does a non-response speak volumes? So all you Republicans, simply ask your Democrats friend this question.

    Like Double, I am financially secure & my children will be the same when my wife & I pass on to a better life.

    However, I want my children & grandchildren to never worry about health care & the extraordinary costs associated with it. Losing care due to pre-existing conditions would be devastating for most Americans.

    The end of Medicare & Medicaid as we know it . Sure there are abuses in Medicaid & I want those addressed. I also want the generational concept that the government should take care of irresponsible Americans popping out puppies ended. 

    The rebirth of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau will not take place with Republicans in power.

    I want immigrants to get a fair shake to pursue the American dream that many people believe is dead. I do not believe it is dead. 

    These are off the top of my head & now it's time for football!

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2019 - 8:01 PM ET #30

    Midnight1: With all due respect, and being older and comfortably retired myself, I agree with most of what you said, but the concept that you can look after the future for your grandchildren is a pipe dream. Life, as we know it, is changing so rapidly the future is completely unknowable. Our grandparents had the same dream for our generation, but if they were with us today they would be totally astounded at what this world has become. They would not understand the morals, politics or economics of this age.

    A good example may be gun rights. If the founding fathers were with us they would ask "are you people nuts?" They never envisioned huge metropolitan areas dominated by everything from organized crime to common street gangs of teenagers, all armed with automatic, rapid fire weapons. Just as they did not give a thought to the immorality of slavery or denial of voting rights to women.   

    So, what to do? Raise your kids as morally and patriotically responsible, educate them as best you can, then; cut them loose. The world they inherit is only somewhat under our control, and the world they will pass on to your grandchildren will be totally beyond our control. My kids are raised, almost have their own kids raised, and there is one great-grandchild involved now. What can I do about the world they live in, now or in the future? Very little, so I follow Padre Pio's advice: Pray, hope, and don't worry. Anxiety is the most worthless of human emotions. 

    peace

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Midnight1: With all due respect, and being older and comfortably retired myself, I agree with most of what you said, but the concept that you can look after the future for your grandchildren is a pipe dream. Life, as we know it, is changing so rapidly the future is completely unknowable. Our grandparents had the same dream for our generation, but if they were with us today they would be totally astounded at what this world has become. They would not understand the morals, politics or economics of this age.

    A good example may be gun rights. If the founding fathers were with us they would ask "are you people nuts?" They never envisioned huge metropolitan areas dominated by everything from organized crime to common street gangs of teenagers, all armed with automatic, rapid fire weapons. Just as they did not give a thought to the immorality of slavery or denial of voting rights to women.   

    So, what to do? Raise your kids as morally and patriotically responsible, educate them as best you can, then; cut them loose. The world they inherit is only somewhat under our control, and the world they will pass on to your grandchildren will be totally beyond our control. My kids are raised, almost have their own kids raised, and there is one great-grandchild involved now. What can I do about the world they live in, now or in the future? Very little, so I follow Padre Pio's advice: Pray, hope, and don't worry. Anxiety is the most worthless of human emotions. 

    peace

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2019 - 8:04 PM ET #31

    bws77 - I agree with you about the 1-2% being total bullshit and it's been that way for a long long time. I understand the

                rising cost related to tariffs. But, we definitely can't keep the status quo with China. Would be nice if Congress put

                a little time doing their job. The Mexica/Canada deal is a win win and bipartisan. It's ignorant of Pelosi to simply not

                put this legislation into law. WHY????? Simple - Make Trump look good so fk the American public. Trump has said

               he will never abolish Social Security. Will Medicare for all eliminate SS? Money has to come from somewhere.

    Midnight - I agree with you on all - The only problem with immigrants getting a fair shake is that they don't go thru the process.

                 We both know that the Evil comes with the good. Bring in all the good, but how do we weed out the low-lifes. Tough

                 problem either way. TX to you and BWS77

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    bws77 - I agree with you about the 1-2% being total bullshit and it's been that way for a long long time. I understand the

                rising cost related to tariffs. But, we definitely can't keep the status quo with China. Would be nice if Congress put

                a little time doing their job. The Mexica/Canada deal is a win win and bipartisan. It's ignorant of Pelosi to simply not

                put this legislation into law. WHY????? Simple - Make Trump look good so fk the American public. Trump has said

               he will never abolish Social Security. Will Medicare for all eliminate SS? Money has to come from somewhere.

    Midnight - I agree with you on all - The only problem with immigrants getting a fair shake is that they don't go thru the process.

                 We both know that the Evil comes with the good. Bring in all the good, but how do we weed out the low-lifes. Tough

                 problem either way. TX to you and BWS77

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2019 - 12:25 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    bws77 - I agree with you about the 1-2% being total bullshit and it's been that way for a long long time. I understand the             rising cost related to tariffs. But, we definitely can't keep the status quo with China. Would be nice if Congress put             a little time doing their job. The Mexica/Canada deal is a win win and bipartisan. It's ignorant of Pelosi to simply not             put this legislation into law. WHY????? Simple - Make Trump look good so fk the American public. Trump has said            he will never abolish Social Security. Will Medicare for all eliminate SS? Money has to come from somewhere. Midnight - I agree with you on all - The only problem with immigrants getting a fair shake is that they don't go thru the process.              We both know that the Evil comes with the good. Bring in all the good, but how do we weed out the low-lifes. Tough              problem either way. TX to you and BWS77

    Interest rates (positive) on savings are intrinsically tied to interest rates on borrowing (negative). Therefore; if one is to rise, so must the other. Therefore; if DJT continues to pound the Fed for lower prime rates and “cheap money” for the borrowing group, the savings group must subsidize the borrowers. In a nutshell “there is no such thing as a free lunch.”

    Medicare for all will not affect Social Security at all. That is a retirement, aid to dependent children, and disability fund. The Medicare Tax, employer and employee both, is a separate program with an entirely separate tax. Medicare funding (for all) would either see a significant rise in that tax or some new form of taxation. On the positive side, hundreds of billions of dollars spent by employers, employees, and private individuals would become available to fund Medicare for all.

    An incredibly small number of immigrants are “low lifes”. Most turn out to be productive, decent, residents or citizens. Some are even decent tax contributors, since operating under an assumed name (identity) they fear the government, and never file accurate income tax forms that may entitle them to a refund.

    Everything about our society, economics, and culture is a good news-bad news situation. Do what you can. Look after your family and friends, but don’t let all of societies ills create anxiety.

    an_wink

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    bws77 - I agree with you about the 1-2% being total bullshit and it's been that way for a long long time. I understand the             rising cost related to tariffs. But, we definitely can't keep the status quo with China. Would be nice if Congress put             a little time doing their job. The Mexica/Canada deal is a win win and bipartisan. It's ignorant of Pelosi to simply not             put this legislation into law. WHY????? Simple - Make Trump look good so fk the American public. Trump has said            he will never abolish Social Security. Will Medicare for all eliminate SS? Money has to come from somewhere. Midnight - I agree with you on all - The only problem with immigrants getting a fair shake is that they don't go thru the process.              We both know that the Evil comes with the good. Bring in all the good, but how do we weed out the low-lifes. Tough              problem either way. TX to you and BWS77

    Interest rates (positive) on savings are intrinsically tied to interest rates on borrowing (negative). Therefore; if one is to rise, so must the other. Therefore; if DJT continues to pound the Fed for lower prime rates and “cheap money” for the borrowing group, the savings group must subsidize the borrowers. In a nutshell “there is no such thing as a free lunch.”

    Medicare for all will not affect Social Security at all. That is a retirement, aid to dependent children, and disability fund. The Medicare Tax, employer and employee both, is a separate program with an entirely separate tax. Medicare funding (for all) would either see a significant rise in that tax or some new form of taxation. On the positive side, hundreds of billions of dollars spent by employers, employees, and private individuals would become available to fund Medicare for all.

    An incredibly small number of immigrants are “low lifes”. Most turn out to be productive, decent, residents or citizens. Some are even decent tax contributors, since operating under an assumed name (identity) they fear the government, and never file accurate income tax forms that may entitle them to a refund.

    Everything about our society, economics, and culture is a good news-bad news situation. Do what you can. Look after your family and friends, but don’t let all of societies ills create anxiety.

    an_wink

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