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    The Trump Backlash begins with this political Prop Bet: Ossoff vs. Handel

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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 12:08 AM ET #1

    32-32

    The pick:

    John Ossoff -145 over Karen Handel on 6/20/2017


    Wow is all I have to say about this line.

    It is down to a mind-blowing Ossoff -145. I'll tell you why. People think this shooting of the GOP member will somehow 'dampen' Ossoff's chances (Brietbart.com is touting precisely this).

    Don't be fooled. This line was -215 just a few days ago when he had a 7 point lead. Yes, 7.

    Here are the reasons and I'll make them short because political prop threads simply aren't popular:

    1. This is the most public election to voice the electorates distaste with the Trump Presidency (and he just hit a record low disapproval rating in record time today). The ballot box will speak volumes for the speechless, particularly in district that tapped Tom Price to go work for the Trump Presidency. This will be a middle finger to his administration in a long-held GOP district.

    2. Follow the money. 

    We know money wins in politics (most of the time). Trump is a counterexample but traditional big money will never leave the political arena and its influence on the electorate. Here are the numbers. Excluding SuperPacs (which do matter) the candidates have raised:

    Ossoff $23 million 

    Handel $4.5 million 

    On this point alone you can blindly take Ossoff at bargain basement price chalk.

    3. Polling

    Finally a recent poll has Handel pulling even with Ossoff (another thing dragging down this line) but even Breitbart, the most pro GOP site in history, has Ossoff up 3.5% points.

    Nuff said. You want to make a little change on an exotic you know a little about, it's right here. The NBA season is over. Time to scratch and claw out some bankroll with bets like this. It's right here. Come with me at a great price. 
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    32-32

    The pick:

    John Ossoff -145 over Karen Handel on 6/20/2017


    Wow is all I have to say about this line.

    It is down to a mind-blowing Ossoff -145. I'll tell you why. People think this shooting of the GOP member will somehow 'dampen' Ossoff's chances (Brietbart.com is touting precisely this).

    Don't be fooled. This line was -215 just a few days ago when he had a 7 point lead. Yes, 7.

    Here are the reasons and I'll make them short because political prop threads simply aren't popular:

    1. This is the most public election to voice the electorates distaste with the Trump Presidency (and he just hit a record low disapproval rating in record time today). The ballot box will speak volumes for the speechless, particularly in district that tapped Tom Price to go work for the Trump Presidency. This will be a middle finger to his administration in a long-held GOP district.

    2. Follow the money. 

    We know money wins in politics (most of the time). Trump is a counterexample but traditional big money will never leave the political arena and its influence on the electorate. Here are the numbers. Excluding SuperPacs (which do matter) the candidates have raised:

    Ossoff $23 million 

    Handel $4.5 million 

    On this point alone you can blindly take Ossoff at bargain basement price chalk.

    3. Polling

    Finally a recent poll has Handel pulling even with Ossoff (another thing dragging down this line) but even Breitbart, the most pro GOP site in history, has Ossoff up 3.5% points.

    Nuff said. You want to make a little change on an exotic you know a little about, it's right here. The NBA season is over. Time to scratch and claw out some bankroll with bets like this. It's right here. Come with me at a great price. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 1:12 AM ET #2

    06/15/17---

    Ossoff Leads by 3 in Latest Poll of Georgia 6th District..close to the MOE
    ....

    The poll, conducted by Trafalgar Group, surveyed 1,100 likely voters with a 2.9% margin of error. Ossoff saw 50% support in the survey vs. 47% for Handel.

    One vote Ossoff won't be getting is his own..since he doesn't live in the district he's running for..

    ..and you can't always follow the money ..ask Hillary...

     In
    one of the biggest upsets in American political history Donald Trump was able to do win after spending nearly half of what the Clinton campaign spent...  Clinton spent nearly twice as much as Trump per vote ..but, hey she bought the popular vote..
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    06/15/17---

    Ossoff Leads by 3 in Latest Poll of Georgia 6th District..close to the MOE
    ....

    The poll, conducted by Trafalgar Group, surveyed 1,100 likely voters with a 2.9% margin of error. Ossoff saw 50% support in the survey vs. 47% for Handel.

    One vote Ossoff won't be getting is his own..since he doesn't live in the district he's running for..

    ..and you can't always follow the money ..ask Hillary...

     In
    one of the biggest upsets in American political history Donald Trump was able to do win after spending nearly half of what the Clinton campaign spent...  Clinton spent nearly twice as much as Trump per vote ..but, hey she bought the popular vote..
     
    Hugh_Jorgan
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 6:43 AM ET #3

    Betting on another democrat ... which any reasonable person would need to acknowledge that your immense bias is most likely blinding your judgement.

    blind bias + wishful thinking + making bets = 
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    Betting on another democrat ... which any reasonable person would need to acknowledge that your immense bias is most likely blinding your judgement.

    blind bias + wishful thinking + making bets = 
     
    packers1992
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 8:09 AM ET #4

    The left has been wounded so bad in this country that their hope is in a house race in Georgia on a guy who has no idea nor cares about the problems in the country or the district and can't even vote for himself

    You are seeing the decline of the Democrat Party

    BTW if that guy were to win its because Handel doesn't seem like she's committed to Trump's agenda. If you're a Republican not willing to fight for President Trump's agenda go watch the Golden Girls
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    The left has been wounded so bad in this country that their hope is in a house race in Georgia on a guy who has no idea nor cares about the problems in the country or the district and can't even vote for himself

    You are seeing the decline of the Democrat Party

    BTW if that guy were to win its because Handel doesn't seem like she's committed to Trump's agenda. If you're a Republican not willing to fight for President Trump's agenda go watch the Golden Girls
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 10:13 AM ET #5

    first off, on behalf of myself and hugh jorman, i want to re-welcome scalabrine for what we expect will be a long stay in the politics forums.

    secondly, it's tough to handicap these small races.  i've seen polls showing ossoff +7 to even.  based on that, i don't love a line of -145. 

    this is an interesting district though.  it has all types of people covered.  if there is a trump backlash, you could definitely see it here.  but this district normally goes republican (a lot of Meth in georgia ).

    i have no idea about this one. 
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    first off, on behalf of myself and hugh jorman, i want to re-welcome scalabrine for what we expect will be a long stay in the politics forums.

    secondly, it's tough to handicap these small races.  i've seen polls showing ossoff +7 to even.  based on that, i don't love a line of -145. 

    this is an interesting district though.  it has all types of people covered.  if there is a trump backlash, you could definitely see it here.  but this district normally goes republican (a lot of Meth in georgia ).

    i have no idea about this one. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 10:23 AM ET #6

    While I suspect Ossoff will pull this off. I think we have entered the age where polling is obviously flawed and wouldn't put substantial weight on a poll showing him ahead by too much.
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    While I suspect Ossoff will pull this off. I think we have entered the age where polling is obviously flawed and wouldn't put substantial weight on a poll showing him ahead by too much.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 2:26 PM ET #7

    Well thanks Club.

    Isn't it amazing how the last two posters can come in and talk about the race itself and the value in the bet vs. politicizing the bet (Trump won!!) or attacking the poster because well...we don't like that guy!
     

    Ossoff will take this down Gents. This race is the fissure in the dam that turns into a crack and and then a flood and represents the starting point for the the Dems taking back seats in 2018 (with a young energetic progressive minded candidate and one that isn't a bad looking guy, which if we all admit it, affects the perception of the voter, just ask JFK supporters).

    I understand the point about this district going red (it is historically red yes) and polling is questionable (7 pts to 0 pts in 3 days is worrisome) but I believe the result of this vote, as a representation of what Congress is doing siding with Trump (ACHA at 17% support, and tax cuts for the rich), is that the Trump vote wasn't all it was cracked up to be for his base. That leads to a depressed turnout for Reds and a highly motivated angry revolt vote for Blues. There will be more action at the polls on the Blue side just as there was in swing states for Trump in 2016.

    Ossoffs wins and if you get it at a better price I commend you!


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    Well thanks Club.

    Isn't it amazing how the last two posters can come in and talk about the race itself and the value in the bet vs. politicizing the bet (Trump won!!) or attacking the poster because well...we don't like that guy!
     

    Ossoff will take this down Gents. This race is the fissure in the dam that turns into a crack and and then a flood and represents the starting point for the the Dems taking back seats in 2018 (with a young energetic progressive minded candidate and one that isn't a bad looking guy, which if we all admit it, affects the perception of the voter, just ask JFK supporters).

    I understand the point about this district going red (it is historically red yes) and polling is questionable (7 pts to 0 pts in 3 days is worrisome) but I believe the result of this vote, as a representation of what Congress is doing siding with Trump (ACHA at 17% support, and tax cuts for the rich), is that the Trump vote wasn't all it was cracked up to be for his base. That leads to a depressed turnout for Reds and a highly motivated angry revolt vote for Blues. There will be more action at the polls on the Blue side just as there was in swing states for Trump in 2016.

    Ossoffs wins and if you get it at a better price I commend you!


     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 3:12 PM ET #8

    You do realize:

    1. if he wins its 1 seat

    2. That republicans conservatives Christians and moderate democrats have about had enough of this extreme left wing BS

    The fact that people believe that this election no matter the outcome means anything about anything shows how fuc%ED up the left is. And how the Democrat Party is falling

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    You do realize:

    1. if he wins its 1 seat

    2. That republicans conservatives Christians and moderate democrats have about had enough of this extreme left wing BS

    The fact that people believe that this election no matter the outcome means anything about anything shows how fuc%ED up the left is. And how the Democrat Party is falling

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    You do realize:

    1. if he wins its 1 seat

    2. That republicans conservatives Christians and moderate democrats have about had enough of this extreme left wing BS

    The fact that people believe that this election no matter the outcome means anything about anything shows how fuc%ED up the left is. And how the Democrat Party is falling


    You do realize this is website that serves bettors and I'm capping a political race and one I've been following aggressively and is now about to be determined (one which apparently scares the shi* out of you), and further, one that has pretty damn good odds for a favorite.

    You do realize you have already been called out for muddying the waters of this thread by politicizing that cap and bet.

    You do realize you are here continuing to politicize the bet even after being called out on it, making an even bigger fool of yourself.

    Need I go on or is that enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    You do realize:

    1. if he wins its 1 seat

    2. That republicans conservatives Christians and moderate democrats have about had enough of this extreme left wing BS

    The fact that people believe that this election no matter the outcome means anything about anything shows how fuc%ED up the left is. And how the Democrat Party is falling


    You do realize this is website that serves bettors and I'm capping a political race and one I've been following aggressively and is now about to be determined (one which apparently scares the shi* out of you), and further, one that has pretty damn good odds for a favorite.

    You do realize you have already been called out for muddying the waters of this thread by politicizing that cap and bet.

    You do realize you are here continuing to politicize the bet even after being called out on it, making an even bigger fool of yourself.

    Need I go on or is that enough?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    Isn't it amazing how the last two posters can come in and talk about the race itself and the value in the bet vs. politicizing the bet (Trump won!!) or attacking the poster because well...we don't like that guy!
     

    I believe I am the poster which you claim was attacking you because I don't like you ...

    1) I simply pointed out that you have an extremely strong bias, and as such your judgement is clouded. This is not an attack, it is a statement of fact which needs to be considered when betting on something.

    2) I do not dislike you. Actually, I find you to be quite entertaining. While I recognize that you are a putz, that does not mean that I feel any negativity towards you.

    Putz on, ya putz 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    Isn't it amazing how the last two posters can come in and talk about the race itself and the value in the bet vs. politicizing the bet (Trump won!!) or attacking the poster because well...we don't like that guy!
     

    I believe I am the poster which you claim was attacking you because I don't like you ...

    1) I simply pointed out that you have an extremely strong bias, and as such your judgement is clouded. This is not an attack, it is a statement of fact which needs to be considered when betting on something.

    2) I do not dislike you. Actually, I find you to be quite entertaining. While I recognize that you are a putz, that does not mean that I feel any negativity towards you.

    Putz on, ya putz 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 4:28 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    You do realize this is website that serves bettors and I'm capping a political race and one I've been following aggressively 

    "Following aggressively" ... Does this mean that Rachel Maddow told you this was important, and the 1 hour each night you watch his show qualifies as "aggressive capping"? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    You do realize this is website that serves bettors and I'm capping a political race and one I've been following aggressively 

    "Following aggressively" ... Does this mean that Rachel Maddow told you this was important, and the 1 hour each night you watch his show qualifies as "aggressive capping"? 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 4:29 PM ET #12

    Sorry Mr. Scal..but who REALLY cares???

    Much ado' about very little..

    The FACT that you INITIATE a thread about some semi-meaningless Georgia Congressional District race  only REINFORCES how the DEMOCRATS are ALL-IN against the TRUMP agenda AND Presidency....

    Good Luck...I personally think the AMERICAN PEOPLE (non-sheep) see thoroughly through what's REALLY GOING ON currently in the REALITY...."how unhinged some folks really are"..

     Stick to handicapping....your political  threads are MUCH MUCH more controversial than mine...
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    Sorry Mr. Scal..but who REALLY cares???

    Much ado' about very little..

    The FACT that you INITIATE a thread about some semi-meaningless Georgia Congressional District race  only REINFORCES how the DEMOCRATS are ALL-IN against the TRUMP agenda AND Presidency....

    Good Luck...I personally think the AMERICAN PEOPLE (non-sheep) see thoroughly through what's REALLY GOING ON currently in the REALITY...."how unhinged some folks really are"..

     Stick to handicapping....your political  threads are MUCH MUCH more controversial than mine...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 10:33 PM ET #13

    Handel has received a death threat letter covered in white powder

    {Yoda Voice}Tolerant you are Liberals!

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    Handel has received a death threat letter covered in white powder

    {Yoda Voice}Tolerant you are Liberals!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 11:01 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I believe I am the poster which you claim was attacking you because I don't like you ...

    1) I simply pointed out that you have an extremely strong bias, and as such your judgement is clouded. This is not an attack, it is a statement of fact which needs to be considered when betting on something.

    2) I do not dislike you. Actually, I find you to be quite entertaining. While I recognize that you are a putz, that does not mean that I feel any negativity towards you.

    Putz on, ya putz 

    Excuse me?

    I have a write-up for a reason.

    Do you really think, seeing me bet against the Knicks a hundred times (my team), betting against the Jets and Giants a hundred times (my teams), betting against the Rangers (my team), that I am posting this, for people to follow, to make money (because that is the only reason) because I want them to BET (not VOTE but BET) on a Democrat, as though that strokes my ego???

    You think I care?

    Because that is the implication, in that, my 'judgement is clouded', hence if I am here posting a Democrat it is in part, illegitimate, because I am one.

    That is LUDICROUS given I've bet against my teams on this very site HUNDREDS of times in my life! In fact I SEEK it out as good bets!

    And when the time comes to bet ON my team, I am no less a capper, in that I am pointing out a spot where I think my team will win.

    Do I want Ossoff to win as a Democrat? OF COURSE. But I don't have a stake in that state.


    The real stake comes with my money and I maxed out this exotic.


    Oh, and by the way, the line is up to Ossoff -180. 

    I hope those who read this jumped on it at -145 and will still be willing to swallow a -180 pill for less profit. He will win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


    I believe I am the poster which you claim was attacking you because I don't like you ...

    1) I simply pointed out that you have an extremely strong bias, and as such your judgement is clouded. This is not an attack, it is a statement of fact which needs to be considered when betting on something.

    2) I do not dislike you. Actually, I find you to be quite entertaining. While I recognize that you are a putz, that does not mean that I feel any negativity towards you.

    Putz on, ya putz 

    Excuse me?

    I have a write-up for a reason.

    Do you really think, seeing me bet against the Knicks a hundred times (my team), betting against the Jets and Giants a hundred times (my teams), betting against the Rangers (my team), that I am posting this, for people to follow, to make money (because that is the only reason) because I want them to BET (not VOTE but BET) on a Democrat, as though that strokes my ego???

    You think I care?

    Because that is the implication, in that, my 'judgement is clouded', hence if I am here posting a Democrat it is in part, illegitimate, because I am one.

    That is LUDICROUS given I've bet against my teams on this very site HUNDREDS of times in my life! In fact I SEEK it out as good bets!

    And when the time comes to bet ON my team, I am no less a capper, in that I am pointing out a spot where I think my team will win.

    Do I want Ossoff to win as a Democrat? OF COURSE. But I don't have a stake in that state.


    The real stake comes with my money and I maxed out this exotic.


    Oh, and by the way, the line is up to Ossoff -180. 

    I hope those who read this jumped on it at -145 and will still be willing to swallow a -180 pill for less profit. He will win.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 11:05 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Sorry Mr. Scal..but who REALLY cares???

    Much ado' about very little..

    The FACT that you INITIATE a thread about some semi-meaningless Georgia Congressional District race  only REINFORCES how the DEMOCRATS are ALL-IN against the TRUMP agenda AND Presidency....

    Good Luck...I personally think the AMERICAN PEOPLE (non-sheep) see thoroughly through what's REALLY GOING ON currently in the REALITY...."how unhinged some folks really are"..

     Stick to handicapping....your political  threads are MUCH MUCH more controversial than mine...

    You should be ashamed of yourself. 

    This is for MONEY AND MONEY ONLY. 

    And if you were smart, you'd shut up and bet Ossaff and thank me later. 

    NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE PERSONAL POLITICAL STAKE HERE when I create a thread. If I cared about the personal side, I'd create a thread WITHOUT a pick to start my victory dance.

    In the end, it's ALL GREEN. And to see long-time handicappers REJECT, Political props, WWE bets, Hot Dog eating contest, Oscar props, random exotics (things which I've made a TON off of), because it is what? Beneath them?..is capping hubris in the highest form.

    Get off of your ivory capping tower. Shameful and ignorant!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Sorry Mr. Scal..but who REALLY cares???

    Much ado' about very little..

    The FACT that you INITIATE a thread about some semi-meaningless Georgia Congressional District race  only REINFORCES how the DEMOCRATS are ALL-IN against the TRUMP agenda AND Presidency....

    Good Luck...I personally think the AMERICAN PEOPLE (non-sheep) see thoroughly through what's REALLY GOING ON currently in the REALITY...."how unhinged some folks really are"..

     Stick to handicapping....your political  threads are MUCH MUCH more controversial than mine...

    You should be ashamed of yourself. 

    This is for MONEY AND MONEY ONLY. 

    And if you were smart, you'd shut up and bet Ossaff and thank me later. 

    NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE PERSONAL POLITICAL STAKE HERE when I create a thread. If I cared about the personal side, I'd create a thread WITHOUT a pick to start my victory dance.

    In the end, it's ALL GREEN. And to see long-time handicappers REJECT, Political props, WWE bets, Hot Dog eating contest, Oscar props, random exotics (things which I've made a TON off of), because it is what? Beneath them?..is capping hubris in the highest form.

    Get off of your ivory capping tower. Shameful and ignorant!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 11:07 PM ET #16

    I'll say it again....


    -145 yesterday at its rock bottom low


    -180 today....


    you still have time to get in....



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    I'll say it again....


    -145 yesterday at its rock bottom low


    -180 today....


    you still have time to get in....



     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2017 - 11:08 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Sorry Mr. Scal..but who REALLY cares???

    Much ado' about very little..

    The FACT that you INITIATE a thread about some semi-meaningless Georgia Congressional District race  only REINFORCES how the DEMOCRATS are ALL-IN against the TRUMP agenda AND Presidency....

    Good Luck...I personally think the AMERICAN PEOPLE (non-sheep) see thoroughly through what's REALLY GOING ON currently in the REALITY...."how unhinged some folks really are"..

     Stick to handicapping....your political  threads are MUCH MUCH more controversial than mine...

    I remember when JDR called my Memphis -3 over SMU bet this year a 'meaningless' mid-afternoon AAC game. 

    It won 52-7....


    I smiled when I saw him say it pre-game.

    I'm just as confident hearing it again now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Sorry Mr. Scal..but who REALLY cares???

    Much ado' about very little..

    The FACT that you INITIATE a thread about some semi-meaningless Georgia Congressional District race  only REINFORCES how the DEMOCRATS are ALL-IN against the TRUMP agenda AND Presidency....

    Good Luck...I personally think the AMERICAN PEOPLE (non-sheep) see thoroughly through what's REALLY GOING ON currently in the REALITY...."how unhinged some folks really are"..

     Stick to handicapping....your political  threads are MUCH MUCH more controversial than mine...

    I remember when JDR called my Memphis -3 over SMU bet this year a 'meaningless' mid-afternoon AAC game. 

    It won 52-7....


    I smiled when I saw him say it pre-game.

    I'm just as confident hearing it again now....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2017 - 3:49 AM ET #18

    06/16/17---- Landmark Communications latest poll of likely voters has Ossoff leading Handel 49.7% to 48%...With the poll's margin of error at nearly 3.5%...

    Landmark Communications polling and political consulting firm is based in metro Atlanta..
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    06/16/17---- Landmark Communications latest poll of likely voters has Ossoff leading Handel 49.7% to 48%...With the poll's margin of error at nearly 3.5%...

    Landmark Communications polling and political consulting firm is based in metro Atlanta..
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2017 - 2:51 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    06/16/17---- Landmark Communications latest poll of likely voters has Ossoff leading Handel 49.7% to 48%...With the poll's margin of error at nearly 3.5%...

    Landmark Communications polling and political consulting firm is based in metro Atlanta..

    That's fine with me. I don't expect him to win in a landslide, only to win because a voting base was engaged compared to 2016 which is a virtual guarantee...even in a red district.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    06/16/17---- Landmark Communications latest poll of likely voters has Ossoff leading Handel 49.7% to 48%...With the poll's margin of error at nearly 3.5%...

    Landmark Communications polling and political consulting firm is based in metro Atlanta..

    That's fine with me. I don't expect him to win in a landslide, only to win because a voting base was engaged compared to 2016 which is a virtual guarantee...even in a red district.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2017 - 4:05 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Betting on another democrat ... which any reasonable person would need to acknowledge that your immense bias is most likely blinding your judgement.

    blind bias + wishful thinking + making bets = 

    This pile of garbage scam artist Hugh just trolls and cyberstalks. The dirtbag has 16,000 posts, I mean holy phuckin garbage..This con man is literally tries to scam people in real life. Beware of this pile of garbage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Betting on another democrat ... which any reasonable person would need to acknowledge that your immense bias is most likely blinding your judgement.

    blind bias + wishful thinking + making bets = 

    This pile of garbage scam artist Hugh just trolls and cyberstalks. The dirtbag has 16,000 posts, I mean holy phuckin garbage..This con man is literally tries to scam people in real life. Beware of this pile of garbage
     
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    Scal what are your thoughts on hillarys use of the term "super predators", while stumping for bill, the 1994 voilent crime control and law enforcement act and one strike youre out. How can you rationalize support for hillary knowing what these acts have done to the black community. 

    Not trying to pile-on just curious how hillary supporters rationalize this. The acts are not racist rhetoric, they are actual laws targeting the black community or "super predators" as they like to call them. 

    Do you think hillary calling donna brazille a water buffalo is racist? Get jantoring, not racist?

    You would go from bernie supporter to hillary knowing what you know about dnc leaks? It makes no sense to me. 
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    Scal what are your thoughts on hillarys use of the term "super predators", while stumping for bill, the 1994 voilent crime control and law enforcement act and one strike youre out. How can you rationalize support for hillary knowing what these acts have done to the black community. 

    Not trying to pile-on just curious how hillary supporters rationalize this. The acts are not racist rhetoric, they are actual laws targeting the black community or "super predators" as they like to call them. 

    Do you think hillary calling donna brazille a water buffalo is racist? Get jantoring, not racist?

    You would go from bernie supporter to hillary knowing what you know about dnc leaks? It makes no sense to me. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2017 - 1:33 AM ET #22

     Democrats are so desperate to turn Ossoff into a legitimate candidate..  Congressman John Lewis made a outrageous comparison......he called Ossoff the new JFK.   Oh My!

    In early voting 140,000 had already voted in the runoff as of Friday, a sign of ongoing voter enthusiasm...this race will be determined by turn-out..


    Note: Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), was the representative for Georgia's 6th congressional district from 1979 to 1998.
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     Democrats are so desperate to turn Ossoff into a legitimate candidate..  Congressman John Lewis made a outrageous comparison......he called Ossoff the new JFK.   Oh My!

    In early voting 140,000 had already voted in the runoff as of Friday, a sign of ongoing voter enthusiasm...this race will be determined by turn-out..


    Note: Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), was the representative for Georgia's 6th congressional district from 1979 to 1998.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2017 - 4:43 AM ET #23

    Disregard my previous post, it was intended for your "trump would never ..." thread. Not sure how it ended up in this one. (Long day on the water yesterday).
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    Disregard my previous post, it was intended for your "trump would never ..." thread. Not sure how it ended up in this one. (Long day on the water yesterday).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Scal what are your thoughts on hillarys use of the term "super predators", while stumping for bill, the 1994 voilent crime control and law enforcement act and one strike youre out. How can you rationalize support for hillary knowing what these acts have done to the black community. 

    Not trying to pile-on just curious how hillary supporters rationalize this. The acts are not racist rhetoric, they are actual laws targeting the black community or "super predators" as they like to call them. 

    Do you think hillary calling donna brazille a water buffalo is racist? Get jantoring, not racist?

    You would go from bernie supporter to hillary knowing what you know about dnc leaks? It makes no sense to me. 


    the super predators comment was fine and accurate in describing gangs, but your larger point is right in that the law was a big problem.  this is what government does.  some bad garbage happens and then the government overeacts by creating a new law that gives the government even more power and they end up friggin it up by abusing it and applying it in more situations than it was intended with the end result being things are more fucked up than before.   minimum mandatory penalties is the best example of this. 

    absent a law to address new technology (sexting laws, for instance), we don't need any more new criminal laws.  we have all of the laws we need to address whatever bad things people are doing. 

    for voting purposes, as usual, the answer is to vote for real conservatives, who pretty much don't exist so the next best thing is to avoid big government republicans, particularly the "law and order" types. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Scal what are your thoughts on hillarys use of the term "super predators", while stumping for bill, the 1994 voilent crime control and law enforcement act and one strike youre out. How can you rationalize support for hillary knowing what these acts have done to the black community. 

    Not trying to pile-on just curious how hillary supporters rationalize this. The acts are not racist rhetoric, they are actual laws targeting the black community or "super predators" as they like to call them. 

    Do you think hillary calling donna brazille a water buffalo is racist? Get jantoring, not racist?

    You would go from bernie supporter to hillary knowing what you know about dnc leaks? It makes no sense to me. 


    the super predators comment was fine and accurate in describing gangs, but your larger point is right in that the law was a big problem.  this is what government does.  some bad garbage happens and then the government overeacts by creating a new law that gives the government even more power and they end up friggin it up by abusing it and applying it in more situations than it was intended with the end result being things are more fucked up than before.   minimum mandatory penalties is the best example of this. 

    absent a law to address new technology (sexting laws, for instance), we don't need any more new criminal laws.  we have all of the laws we need to address whatever bad things people are doing. 

    for voting purposes, as usual, the answer is to vote for real conservatives, who pretty much don't exist so the next best thing is to avoid big government republicans, particularly the "law and order" types. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2017 - 10:49 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

     Democrats are so desperate to turn Ossoff into a legitimate candidate..  Congressman John Lewis made a outrageous comparison......he called Ossoff the new JFK.   Oh My!

    In early voting 140,000 had already voted in the runoff as of Friday, a sign of ongoing voter enthusiasm...this race will be determined by turn-out..


    Note: Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), was the representative for Georgia's 6th congressional district from 1979 to 1998.


    BREAKING NEWS!

    BREAKING NEWS!!

    BREAKING NEWS!!!

    SARASOTA SLIM WANTS US ALL TO KNOW HIS CAP OF THIS RACE and I quote:

    "The race will be determined by turnout!!"

    Now get to betting folks. Disregard the OP and place your bets with Slim's astute capping!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

     Democrats are so desperate to turn Ossoff into a legitimate candidate..  Congressman John Lewis made a outrageous comparison......he called Ossoff the new JFK.   Oh My!

    In early voting 140,000 had already voted in the runoff as of Friday, a sign of ongoing voter enthusiasm...this race will be determined by turn-out..


    Note: Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), was the representative for Georgia's 6th congressional district from 1979 to 1998.


    BREAKING NEWS!

    BREAKING NEWS!!

    BREAKING NEWS!!!

    SARASOTA SLIM WANTS US ALL TO KNOW HIS CAP OF THIS RACE and I quote:

    "The race will be determined by turnout!!"

    Now get to betting folks. Disregard the OP and place your bets with Slim's astute capping!!!
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