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    The Party of Family Values is set to vote on gun silencers this week

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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 8:19 AM ET #1

    "House slated to vote this wk to ease curbs on silencers which critics say makes it harder to detect source of gunfire in mass shootings"


    But come on people! Let's not make the deadliest mass shooting in history a political and gun rights issue!

    The party of...

    Family VALUES!

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    "House slated to vote this wk to ease curbs on silencers which critics say makes it harder to detect source of gunfire in mass shootings"


    But come on people! Let's not make the deadliest mass shooting in history a political and gun rights issue!

    The party of...

    Family VALUES!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 8:23 AM ET #2

    I have a right to my gun silencer and I voted for Trump because Obama wanted to take away my guns! And my silencers too!


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    I have a right to my gun silencer and I voted for Trump because Obama wanted to take away my guns! And my silencers too!


     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 1:46 PM ET #3

    Actually that is journalism sensationalism  100=150 years ago there were more people killed in singular shooting incidents
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    Actually that is journalism sensationalism  100=150 years ago there were more people killed in singular shooting incidents
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 2:03 PM ET #4

    Nice argument 
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    Nice argument 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 2:05 PM ET #5

    Scalabrine: cops are corrupt and racist

    Also Scalabrine: cops are the only ones that should have guns 

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    Scalabrine: cops are corrupt and racist

    Also Scalabrine: cops are the only ones that should have guns 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 2:34 PM ET #6

    Hey, Scal, check this out. Article about the shooter's father, a career criminal whom the law did not care to punish likely cause he was one of the good-old-boys (i.e., white). Just read the article and imagine what they would have done to the guy if he had been black:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/las-vegas-shooters-father-bingo-bruce-lived-colorful-life-of-crime-and-deception/ar-AAsNIFW?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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    Hey, Scal, check this out. Article about the shooter's father, a career criminal whom the law did not care to punish likely cause he was one of the good-old-boys (i.e., white). Just read the article and imagine what they would have done to the guy if he had been black:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/las-vegas-shooters-father-bingo-bruce-lived-colorful-life-of-crime-and-deception/ar-AAsNIFW?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 7:20 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Scalabrine: cops are corrupt and racist

    Also Scalabrine: cops are the only ones that should have guns 


    The weakest kind of argument - point to a perceived flaw in your opponents logic rather than address the issue itself 

    So, do you think there would be more or less shootings of civilians if gun control laws were tighter?  I say less
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Scalabrine: cops are corrupt and racist

    Also Scalabrine: cops are the only ones that should have guns 


    The weakest kind of argument - point to a perceived flaw in your opponents logic rather than address the issue itself 

    So, do you think there would be more or less shootings of civilians if gun control laws were tighter?  I say less
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 7:55 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    I have a right to my gun silencer and I voted for Trump because Obama wanted to take away my guns! And my silencers too!



    You're a typical democrat opportunist that has no idea what they're talking about as usual.  When will you realize that democrats just lie to you?

    If someone is going to use a full automatic at 370 yards into a crowd, a silencer would never be considered.   Once again you just want to say something derogatory,  even if it's stupid.


    This must be the happiest day of every democrats life.

    Imagine we could find  a silencer for your covers politics account.



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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    I have a right to my gun silencer and I voted for Trump because Obama wanted to take away my guns! And my silencers too!



    You're a typical democrat opportunist that has no idea what they're talking about as usual.  When will you realize that democrats just lie to you?

    If someone is going to use a full automatic at 370 yards into a crowd, a silencer would never be considered.   Once again you just want to say something derogatory,  even if it's stupid.


    This must be the happiest day of every democrats life.

    Imagine we could find  a silencer for your covers politics account.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 8:09 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:


    The weakest kind of argument - point to a perceived flaw in your opponents logic rather than address the issue itself 

    So, do you think there would be more or less shootings of civilians if gun control laws were tighter?  I say less

    What are we going to use to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government? 9mm's? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:


    The weakest kind of argument - point to a perceived flaw in your opponents logic rather than address the issue itself 

    So, do you think there would be more or less shootings of civilians if gun control laws were tighter?  I say less

    What are we going to use to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government? 9mm's? 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 9:57 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    What are we going to use to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government? 9mm's? 


    This happens a lot does it? Enough to justify the bloodshed of civilians  yesterday and every other day on US soil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    What are we going to use to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government? 9mm's? 


    This happens a lot does it? Enough to justify the bloodshed of civilians  yesterday and every other day on US soil?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 9:59 PM ET #11

    AND I note you didn’t answer my question 
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    AND I note you didn’t answer my question 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 10:25 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:


    This happens a lot does it? Enough to justify the bloodshed of civilians  yesterday and every other day on US soil?

    Yeah, want the list. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:


    This happens a lot does it? Enough to justify the bloodshed of civilians  yesterday and every other day on US soil?

    Yeah, want the list. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2017 - 11:04 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:

    AND I note you didn’t answer my question 

    3 percent of criminals who use guns get them legally



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:

    AND I note you didn’t answer my question 

    3 percent of criminals who use guns get them legally



     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2017 - 11:39 PM ET #14

    Same Q again

    So, do you think there would be more or less shootings of civilians if gun control laws were tighter?  I say less
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    Same Q again

    So, do you think there would be more or less shootings of civilians if gun control laws were tighter?  I say less
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 12:54 AM ET #15

    I would say roughly the same. Criminals have a tendency to not follow the rules. 

    Gun control laws are the equivalent of putting a "no wolves allowed" sign up to protect sheep from wolves.

     







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    I would say roughly the same. Criminals have a tendency to not follow the rules. 

    Gun control laws are the equivalent of putting a "no wolves allowed" sign up to protect sheep from wolves.

     







     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 12:55 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    3 percent of criminals who use guns get them legally




    When you consider how many illegal gun purchases start as "legal" transactions that number grows considerably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    3 percent of criminals who use guns get them legally




    When you consider how many illegal gun purchases start as "legal" transactions that number grows considerably.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 12:59 AM ET #17

    These are stats from the American Enterprise Institute.  The number of firearms since 1994 has increased 56%. 

    But what about the gun murder rate? Well, guess what? The percentage of murders, the gun homicide rate is down 49% in the same time frame.  

    Now, the left says more guns equals more crime, more guns equal more mayhem, more guns equals more dead people, more guns equals more murder. No, it doesn’t. Fifty-six percent increase gun ownership since 1994. .....49% decline in gun homicide rates at the same time.  Having more guns has reduced the number of gun homicides.

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    These are stats from the American Enterprise Institute.  The number of firearms since 1994 has increased 56%. 

    But what about the gun murder rate? Well, guess what? The percentage of murders, the gun homicide rate is down 49% in the same time frame.  

    Now, the left says more guns equals more crime, more guns equal more mayhem, more guns equals more dead people, more guns equals more murder. No, it doesn’t. Fifty-six percent increase gun ownership since 1994. .....49% decline in gun homicide rates at the same time.  Having more guns has reduced the number of gun homicides.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 1:08 AM ET #18

    We have laws against murder. People still get killed in America. Not even laws against murder stop it from happening. What law could you come up with here that would, quote, “prevent guns, especially the most dangerous guns, from falling into the wrong hands”?

    There’s not a law that you could pass that would stop this guy from doing what he did. He already broke existing laws, including murder laws, to do what he did.
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    We have laws against murder. People still get killed in America. Not even laws against murder stop it from happening. What law could you come up with here that would, quote, “prevent guns, especially the most dangerous guns, from falling into the wrong hands”?

    There’s not a law that you could pass that would stop this guy from doing what he did. He already broke existing laws, including murder laws, to do what he did.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 1:13 AM ET #19

    The over-whelming majority of gun crimes aren't committed by lawful gun owners. 

    Unlawful gun owners don't care about the current laws, why would they care about new laws? 

    The most effective approach would be to increase mandatory minimums for people caught in illegal possession of a firearm. This would be the most effective approach but democrats fight it. 

    Why do democrats fight it? (I know, do you?) 

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    The over-whelming majority of gun crimes aren't committed by lawful gun owners. 

    Unlawful gun owners don't care about the current laws, why would they care about new laws? 

    The most effective approach would be to increase mandatory minimums for people caught in illegal possession of a firearm. This would be the most effective approach but democrats fight it. 

    Why do democrats fight it? (I know, do you?) 

     
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    Democrats don't want tough mandatory minimums for people in unlawful possession of a firearm because minorities are more likely to be in illegal possession of a firearm. 

    This makes sense in their little brains. They fight for minority criminals to the detriment of law abiding minorities. 

    Sad
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    Democrats don't want tough mandatory minimums for people in unlawful possession of a firearm because minorities are more likely to be in illegal possession of a firearm. 

    This makes sense in their little brains. They fight for minority criminals to the detriment of law abiding minorities. 

    Sad
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 3:14 AM ET #21

    And once again you’ve turned away from the unavoidable shameful truth of America’s firearms record, not remotely parallel anywhere in the civilised world, and turned it into a name calling festival 

    There is nowhere in the world where the people are unarmed where they are overrun by crime. Why do you assume it will happen to you?  And why are you so sure of this theory that you allow so many civilians to be slaughtered rather than ‘risk’ it?

    The rest of the world pities your dire predicament it truly does. And you do nothing to try and fix it. Nothing
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    And once again you’ve turned away from the unavoidable shameful truth of America’s firearms record, not remotely parallel anywhere in the civilised world, and turned it into a name calling festival 

    There is nowhere in the world where the people are unarmed where they are overrun by crime. Why do you assume it will happen to you?  And why are you so sure of this theory that you allow so many civilians to be slaughtered rather than ‘risk’ it?

    The rest of the world pities your dire predicament it truly does. And you do nothing to try and fix it. Nothing
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 10:31 AM ET #22

    In America, we don't care what the rest of the world thinks. We're the strongest and best country in the history of mankind. 

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    In America, we don't care what the rest of the world thinks. We're the strongest and best country in the history of mankind. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 4:00 PM ET #23

    @BB - so typical. So so typical. Now 6 HUNDRED people are shot up in the end and everyone has nothing but shoulder shrugs.
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    @BB - so typical. So so typical. Now 6 HUNDRED people are shot up in the end and everyone has nothing but shoulder shrugs.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 4:03 PM ET #24

    Hey Dough, the silencer isn't about this slaughter.

    It's about the Right's hypocrisy and proof they've been bought out by the NRA. And how you are the worst of it because you are on your hands and knees face in the dirt in direct compliance of their every word.

    Embarrassing. Really a disgrace. I swear if I could get every account here deleted in a capping contest I'd spend the rest of my Covers posting life doing just that. You posters are a disagrace. You have no idea how infantile and imbecilic you sound.
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    Hey Dough, the silencer isn't about this slaughter.

    It's about the Right's hypocrisy and proof they've been bought out by the NRA. And how you are the worst of it because you are on your hands and knees face in the dirt in direct compliance of their every word.

    Embarrassing. Really a disgrace. I swear if I could get every account here deleted in a capping contest I'd spend the rest of my Covers posting life doing just that. You posters are a disagrace. You have no idea how infantile and imbecilic you sound.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 4:40 PM ET #25

    An AR-15 with a silencer is about as loud as a jackhammer ....
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    An AR-15 with a silencer is about as loud as a jackhammer ....
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