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    The Biden Presidency: Repairing America.....again

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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2021 - 9:22 PM ET #676

    If someone who is completely incompetent for the assignment of securing a border.  It really doesn't matter what her skin color is

    She is or appears to be completely incompetent.  SO HER NEW NATION BUILDING IDEA is the same mantra rhetoric they used when they gave money to companies to remove machines from American factories as well as good jobs and shipped them abroad.

    Not sure what her intention not many factories left.... hmm GMCplant in Guatemala?

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    If someone who is completely incompetent for the assignment of securing a border.  It really doesn't matter what her skin color is

    She is or appears to be completely incompetent.  SO HER NEW NATION BUILDING IDEA is the same mantra rhetoric they used when they gave money to companies to remove machines from American factories as well as good jobs and shipped them abroad.

    Not sure what her intention not many factories left.... hmm GMCplant in Guatemala?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 11:14 AM ET #677

    Biden administration is erasing loans for thousands of students defrauded by for profit colleges.  Hundreds of millions of dollars in debt relief.  Thereby reversing Trump administration crude policy that made debt forgiveness harder.

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    Biden administration is erasing loans for thousands of students defrauded by for profit colleges.  Hundreds of millions of dollars in debt relief.  Thereby reversing Trump administration crude policy that made debt forgiveness harder.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 2:37 PM ET #678

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden administration is erasing loans for thousands of students defrauded by for profit colleges.  Hundreds of millions of dollars in debt relief.  Thereby reversing Trump administration crude policy that made debt forgiveness harder.

     

    This comes as a welcome and needed relief.

    trump of course, made things worse, not better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden administration is erasing loans for thousands of students defrauded by for profit colleges.  Hundreds of millions of dollars in debt relief.  Thereby reversing Trump administration crude policy that made debt forgiveness harder.

     

    This comes as a welcome and needed relief.

    trump of course, made things worse, not better.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2021 - 6:17 PM ET #679

    president joe biden signed a new bill today making june 19th a federal hoilday ! thumbs_up

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    president joe biden signed a new bill today making june 19th a federal hoilday ! thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2021 - 6:58 AM ET #680

    CEOs signal stronger hiring plans
    than happened after the Trump tax cuts

    New York (CNN Business)
    Corporate America wants to hire workers aggressively
    as the US economy races back to life following the pandemic.

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    CEOs signal stronger hiring plans
    than happened after the Trump tax cuts

    New York (CNN Business)
    Corporate America wants to hire workers aggressively
    as the US economy races back to life following the pandemic.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2021 - 1:48 AM ET #681

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    CEOs signal stronger hiring plans
    than happened after the Trump tax cuts

    New York (CNN Business)
    Corporate America wants to hire workers aggressively
    as the US economy races back to life following the pandemic.

       "CEO optimism near historic highs, particularly with record hiring plans,
        is a strong sign that we are climbing out of this unprecedented crisis,"
    Walmart (WMT) CEO Doug McMillon, who serves as the chairman of the
    Business Roundtable, said in a statement.

    McMillon hailed an "extremely successful vaccine rollout" in the United States
    that was the result of American innovation and a collaboration between business
    and local and state governments and the Biden administration.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    CEOs signal stronger hiring plans
    than happened after the Trump tax cuts

    New York (CNN Business)
    Corporate America wants to hire workers aggressively
    as the US economy races back to life following the pandemic.

       "CEO optimism near historic highs, particularly with record hiring plans,
        is a strong sign that we are climbing out of this unprecedented crisis,"
    Walmart (WMT) CEO Doug McMillon, who serves as the chairman of the
    Business Roundtable, said in a statement.

    McMillon hailed an "extremely successful vaccine rollout" in the United States
    that was the result of American innovation and a collaboration between business
    and local and state governments and the Biden administration.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2021 - 9:35 AM ET #682

    in 2022 the republicans reclaim the house and senate and in 2024 republicans take back the white house. i just want to be the first one to let you know, you little copy and paste warriorbigsmile

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    in 2022 the republicans reclaim the house and senate and in 2024 republicans take back the white house. i just want to be the first one to let you know, you little copy and paste warriorbigsmile

     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2021 - 11:29 PM ET #683

     

     

    from usa today

     

     

    WASHINGTON — The wages earned by those responsible for controlling the nation's deadliest wildfires are "ridiculously low" President Joe Biden said Tuesday.

    Before a meeting with homeland security and federal emergency management officials, the president told reporters he promised to end the $13 an hour salary paid to federal firefighters.

    "I just realized - I didn't realize this, I have to admit - that federal firefighters get paid $13 an hour. That's going to end in my administration. That's a ridiculously low salary to pay federal firefighters," Biden said.

     

     

     

     

     

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    from usa today

     

     

    WASHINGTON — The wages earned by those responsible for controlling the nation's deadliest wildfires are "ridiculously low" President Joe Biden said Tuesday.

    Before a meeting with homeland security and federal emergency management officials, the president told reporters he promised to end the $13 an hour salary paid to federal firefighters.

    "I just realized - I didn't realize this, I have to admit - that federal firefighters get paid $13 an hour. That's going to end in my administration. That's a ridiculously low salary to pay federal firefighters," Biden said.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2021 - 1:54 PM ET #684

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    from usa today     WASHINGTON — The wages earned by those responsible for controlling the nation's deadliest wildfires are "ridiculously low" President Joe Biden said Tuesday. Before a meeting with homeland security and federal emergency management officials, the president told reporters he promised to end the $13 an hour salary paid to federal firefighters. "I just realized - I didn't realize this, I have to admit - that federal firefighters get paid $13 an hour. That's going to end in my administration. That's a ridiculously low salary to pay federal firefighters," Biden said.

    Thank you Joe Biden! thumbs_up

    (trump had 4 years to fix that)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    from usa today     WASHINGTON — The wages earned by those responsible for controlling the nation's deadliest wildfires are "ridiculously low" President Joe Biden said Tuesday. Before a meeting with homeland security and federal emergency management officials, the president told reporters he promised to end the $13 an hour salary paid to federal firefighters. "I just realized - I didn't realize this, I have to admit - that federal firefighters get paid $13 an hour. That's going to end in my administration. That's a ridiculously low salary to pay federal firefighters," Biden said.

    Thank you Joe Biden! thumbs_up

    (trump had 4 years to fix that)

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2021 - 11:12 PM ET #685

    President Joe Biden nominates
    lifelong Republican Cindy McCain an_light
    for UN ambassador-level position an_clap

    Cindy McCain, who has long used her voice for humanitarian causes worldwide,
    is President Joe Biden’s pick as the U.S. representative to the United Nations
    Agencies for Food and Agriculture, where she would help combat global hunger.

    McCain — a lifelong Arizona Republican and widow of longtime U.S. Senator
    John McCain, 2008 Republican presidential nominee and celebrated Vietnam
    prisoner of war — would relocate to Rome.

    The position, which had been in the works for months, requires approval from
    the U.S. Senate, where her husband served for decades until his death in 2018.
    The White House sent the nomination to the Senate on Wednesday.

      

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    President Joe Biden nominates
    lifelong Republican Cindy McCain an_light
    for UN ambassador-level position an_clap

    Cindy McCain, who has long used her voice for humanitarian causes worldwide,
    is President Joe Biden’s pick as the U.S. representative to the United Nations
    Agencies for Food and Agriculture, where she would help combat global hunger.

    McCain — a lifelong Arizona Republican and widow of longtime U.S. Senator
    John McCain, 2008 Republican presidential nominee and celebrated Vietnam
    prisoner of war — would relocate to Rome.

    The position, which had been in the works for months, requires approval from
    the U.S. Senate, where her husband served for decades until his death in 2018.
    The White House sent the nomination to the Senate on Wednesday.

      

     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2021 - 11:38 AM ET #686

    Biden has rescinded Trump's order restricting diversity training in federal workplaces.  He says unity and healing must begin with understanding and truth.  Not ignorance and lies.  Purpose of diversity training is to increase cultural awareness, prevent civil rights violations and promote positive teamwork. 

    But for Trump, critical race theory is a scrap goat when politicians want to hide their opposition to racial justice.    Irony is that his supporters prove systemic racism exists and they are villains.  Even top general Milley supports open-mindedness and understanding of CRT.  For decades, CRT has been taught at hundreds of colleges and universities across the US.   However GOP now wants to paint CRT as latest bogeyman to be feared?

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    Biden has rescinded Trump's order restricting diversity training in federal workplaces.  He says unity and healing must begin with understanding and truth.  Not ignorance and lies.  Purpose of diversity training is to increase cultural awareness, prevent civil rights violations and promote positive teamwork. 

    But for Trump, critical race theory is a scrap goat when politicians want to hide their opposition to racial justice.    Irony is that his supporters prove systemic racism exists and they are villains.  Even top general Milley supports open-mindedness and understanding of CRT.  For decades, CRT has been taught at hundreds of colleges and universities across the US.   However GOP now wants to paint CRT as latest bogeyman to be feared?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2021 - 10:17 AM ET #687

    Biden has approved emergency declaration for Florida and orders federal aid to assist relief efforts after building collapse in Miami.

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    Biden has approved emergency declaration for Florida and orders federal aid to assist relief efforts after building collapse in Miami.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2021 - 10:50 AM ET #688

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden has approved emergency declaration for Florida and orders federal aid to assist relief efforts after building collapse in Miami.

      a good president !! an_clap

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden has approved emergency declaration for Florida and orders federal aid to assist relief efforts after building collapse in Miami.

      a good president !! an_clap

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2021 - 2:20 PM ET #689

    Biden's justice department is suing Georgia, alleging its controversial voting restrictions discriminate against eligible black voters.  Courts have previously ruled that voting suppression is a far bigger problem than very rare voting fraud.  The right to vote is the cornerstone of democracy.

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    Biden's justice department is suing Georgia, alleging its controversial voting restrictions discriminate against eligible black voters.  Courts have previously ruled that voting suppression is a far bigger problem than very rare voting fraud.  The right to vote is the cornerstone of democracy.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2021 - 2:27 PM ET #690

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    But for Trump, critical race theory is a scrap goat when politicians want to hide their opposition to racial justice.    Irony is that his supporters prove systemic racism exists and they are villains.  Even top general Milley supports open-mindedness and understanding of CRT.  For decades, CRT has been taught at hundreds of colleges and universities across the US.   However GOP now wants to paint CRT as latest bogeyman to be feared?

     

    yep thats the goal of the racists !

    it is offered as an optional course in some universities and colleges . 

    optional

    but according to multiple sorade schoolsurces it is not being taught ,let alone forced, in grade schools

    and yet the racists r all up in arms bcuz they insist it is being taught in grade schools .

    as usual with rumplickers  they hear a lie and believe it bcuz then they can feel victimized and justify their HATRED of anyone who is not a rumplicker like them

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    But for Trump, critical race theory is a scrap goat when politicians want to hide their opposition to racial justice.    Irony is that his supporters prove systemic racism exists and they are villains.  Even top general Milley supports open-mindedness and understanding of CRT.  For decades, CRT has been taught at hundreds of colleges and universities across the US.   However GOP now wants to paint CRT as latest bogeyman to be feared?

     

    yep thats the goal of the racists !

    it is offered as an optional course in some universities and colleges . 

    optional

    but according to multiple sorade schoolsurces it is not being taught ,let alone forced, in grade schools

    and yet the racists r all up in arms bcuz they insist it is being taught in grade schools .

    as usual with rumplickers  they hear a lie and believe it bcuz then they can feel victimized and justify their HATRED of anyone who is not a rumplicker like them

     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2021 - 8:03 PM ET #691

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden's justice department is suing Georgia, alleging its controversial voting restrictions discriminate against eligible black voters.  Courts have previously ruled that voting suppression is a far bigger problem than very rare voting fraud.  The right to vote is the cornerstone of democracy.

    will b tied up in court for months

    most likely georgia will tie it up for about 16 more months

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden's justice department is suing Georgia, alleging its controversial voting restrictions discriminate against eligible black voters.  Courts have previously ruled that voting suppression is a far bigger problem than very rare voting fraud.  The right to vote is the cornerstone of democracy.

    will b tied up in court for months

    most likely georgia will tie it up for about 16 more months

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2021 - 6:04 PM ET #692

    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters.

    Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery.

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

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    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters.

    Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery.

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2021 - 7:13 PM ET #693

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden's justice department is suing Georgia, alleging its controversial voting restrictions discriminate against eligible black voters. 

     

    racism in georgia                  who woulda thunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden's justice department is suing Georgia, alleging its controversial voting restrictions discriminate against eligible black voters. 

     

    racism in georgia                  who woulda thunk

     
    Midnight1
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2021 - 8:47 PM ET #694

    It's nice to wake up in the morning not wondering if the President fired the FBI Director or purchased Greenland or nuked a hurricane. 

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

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    It's nice to wake up in the morning not wondering if the President fired the FBI Director or purchased Greenland or nuked a hurricane. 

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Jun. 30, 2021 - 10:59 AM ET #695

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters. Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery. Thanks Joe!

    Under Biden, Americans have plenty to be cheerful about.  Low covid infections, rebounding employment and elevated savings.  Economists estimate GDP growth at 6% annualized rate in first quarter and possibly 10% in second quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters. Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery. Thanks Joe!

    Under Biden, Americans have plenty to be cheerful about.  Low covid infections, rebounding employment and elevated savings.  Economists estimate GDP growth at 6% annualized rate in first quarter and possibly 10% in second quarter.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation,  per Reuters.

    Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery.

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

    President Biden is a welcome change from the darkness of the last 4 years of constant lies, corruption, scandal, bigotry, racism increase, presidential fraud, and dishonor - just to name a few

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation,  per Reuters.

    Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery.

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

    President Biden is a welcome change from the darkness of the last 4 years of constant lies, corruption, scandal, bigotry, racism increase, presidential fraud, and dishonor - just to name a few

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters. Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery. Thanks Joe! Under Biden, Americans have plenty to be cheerful about.  Low covid infections, rebounding employment and elevated savings.  Economists estimate GDP growth at 6% annualized rate in first quarter and possibly 10% in second quarter.

    That is funny.... From a strictly economic standpoint, all three of these items would still be true no matter who was in the White House.  

    The vaccine was already developed and was being distributed well ahead of the November election. 

    Employment was bound to bounce back as different areas of the country opened up. 

    Elevated Savings....now that is a good one.  I miss spoke earlier when I included this in the three items...... The top .1% of America has gotten much wealthier while the bottom 90% have stagnated.  The average American has roughly $1000 in their savings account.  The powerful feed on the powerless and that doesn't change regardless of who is President.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters. Joe has America feeling safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery. Thanks Joe! Under Biden, Americans have plenty to be cheerful about.  Low covid infections, rebounding employment and elevated savings.  Economists estimate GDP growth at 6% annualized rate in first quarter and possibly 10% in second quarter.

    That is funny.... From a strictly economic standpoint, all three of these items would still be true no matter who was in the White House.  

    The vaccine was already developed and was being distributed well ahead of the November election. 

    Employment was bound to bounce back as different areas of the country opened up. 

    Elevated Savings....now that is a good one.  I miss spoke earlier when I included this in the three items...... The top .1% of America has gotten much wealthier while the bottom 90% have stagnated.  The average American has roughly $1000 in their savings account.  The powerful feed on the powerless and that doesn't change regardless of who is President.  

     
    fubah2
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years
    in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy
    offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters. Joe has America feeling
    safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery.
    Thanks Joe! an_clap

     

    Under Biden, Americans have plenty to be cheerful about.
    Low covid infections, rebounding employment and elevated savings.
    Economists estimate GDP growth at 6% annualized rate in first quarter
    and possibly 10% in second quarter.

     

    Absolutely!

    And much more than that!  All very well documented so the fascists & bigots on the right can't whitewash it.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    U.S. consumer confidence jumped to its highest level in nearly 1.5 years
    in June as growing labor market optimism amid a reopening economy
    offset concerns about higher inflation per Reuters. Joe has America feeling
    safe again proving that ignoring covid was not the answer to our economic recovery.
    Thanks Joe! an_clap

     

    Under Biden, Americans have plenty to be cheerful about.
    Low covid infections, rebounding employment and elevated savings.
    Economists estimate GDP growth at 6% annualized rate in first quarter
    and possibly 10% in second quarter.

     

    Absolutely!

    And much more than that!  All very well documented so the fascists & bigots on the right can't whitewash it.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 1, 2021 - 4:15 PM ET #699

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    It's nice to wake up in the morning not wondering if

    the President fired the FBI Director

    or purchased Greenland or nuked a hurricane. 

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

     

    understatement !

    the last 4 yrs was little more than a cesspool in the wh

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    It's nice to wake up in the morning not wondering if

    the President fired the FBI Director

    or purchased Greenland or nuked a hurricane. 

    Thanks Joe!

    an_clap

     

    understatement !

    the last 4 yrs was little more than a cesspool in the wh

     

     

     
     
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    So by your two beliefs, it is Joe Biden who is responsible for the unemployment rate going down, CORRECT? It has nothing to do with the pandemic shutting down the country? It is amazing the Bull shit you two come up with.  As for lower covid infections- By your reasoning it is because Joe Biden is responsible for the vaccine? That is more bull shit. It is amusing how you two try like hell to make Joe look good. How's the border going? Would love to hear how you can spin Joe into a good light on that topic, but, I know you can't come up with similar bull shit. Elevated savings - Where did you come up with that useless concept?

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    So by your two beliefs, it is Joe Biden who is responsible for the unemployment rate going down, CORRECT? It has nothing to do with the pandemic shutting down the country? It is amazing the Bull shit you two come up with.  As for lower covid infections- By your reasoning it is because Joe Biden is responsible for the vaccine? That is more bull shit. It is amusing how you two try like hell to make Joe look good. How's the border going? Would love to hear how you can spin Joe into a good light on that topic, but, I know you can't come up with similar bull shit. Elevated savings - Where did you come up with that useless concept?

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