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    The Biden Presidency: Repairing America.....again

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    fubah2
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2024 - 11:14 PM ET #3876

    Feb. 2 NEW REPORT
    points to blockbuster U.S. job growth
    as 2024 begins Biden's 4th year an_2drinks

     

    an_light Excerpt from MSNBC article...

    For some additional context,
    consider job growth by year over the past decade:

     

    2013: 2.3 million!   (Obama/Biden)
    2014: 3.0 million!   (Obama/Biden)
    2015: 2.7 million!   (Obama/Biden)
    2016: 2.3 million!   (Obama/Biden)

     

    2017: 2.1 million
    2018: 2.3 million
    2019: 2.0 million
    2020: - 9.3 million  an_speechless  under trump mis-management and negligence

     

    2021:  7.3 million!   (Biden/Harris)
    2022: 4.8 million!   (Biden/Harris)
    2023: 3.0 million!   (Biden/Harris)

    2024:  ???        an_cheers

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    Feb. 2 NEW REPORT
    points to blockbuster U.S. job growth
    as 2024 begins Biden's 4th year an_2drinks

     

    an_light Excerpt from MSNBC article...

    For some additional context,
    consider job growth by year over the past decade:

     

    2013: 2.3 million!   (Obama/Biden)
    2014: 3.0 million!   (Obama/Biden)
    2015: 2.7 million!   (Obama/Biden)
    2016: 2.3 million!   (Obama/Biden)

     

    2017: 2.1 million
    2018: 2.3 million
    2019: 2.0 million
    2020: - 9.3 million  an_speechless  under trump mis-management and negligence

     

    2021:  7.3 million!   (Biden/Harris)
    2022: 4.8 million!   (Biden/Harris)
    2023: 3.0 million!   (Biden/Harris)

    2024:  ???        an_cheers

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2024 - 11:47 PM ET #3877

    @fubah2

     an_speechless  That shows the Trump republican regime actually had a net loss of almost 3 million jobs during his reign as king of MAGA cult

     

    Obama had a net gain of over 10 million over his final four years an_clap

     

    I don't know to what degree those figures might be accurate but it sure looks bad for Trump and good for democrat administrations! Even before Trump f--ked America with disasterous mismanagement of covid, his average numbers were much less than Obama's and Biden's!

     

     

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    @fubah2

     an_speechless  That shows the Trump republican regime actually had a net loss of almost 3 million jobs during his reign as king of MAGA cult

     

    Obama had a net gain of over 10 million over his final four years an_clap

     

    I don't know to what degree those figures might be accurate but it sure looks bad for Trump and good for democrat administrations! Even before Trump f--ked America with disasterous mismanagement of covid, his average numbers were much less than Obama's and Biden's!

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2024 - 10:31 PM ET #3878

    JANUARY 31, 2024
    excerpt from the White House speech:


    " This National Black History Month, we celebrate the vast contributions of Black Americans to our country and recognize that Black history is American history and that Black culture, stories, and triumphs are at the core of who we are as a Nation.

    The soul of America is what makes us unique among all nations. We are the only country in the world founded on an idea. It is the idea that we are all created equal and deserve to be treated with equal dignity throughout our lives. While we still grapple today with the moral stain and vestiges of slavery — our country’s original sin — we have never walked away from the fight to fully realize the promise of America for all Americans.

    America is a great Nation because we choose to learn the good, the bad, and the full truth of the history of our country — histories and truths that we must preserve and protect for the next generation. This National Black History Month, as we remember where we have been, may we also recognize that our only way forward is by marching together.

    I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim February 2024 as National Black History Month. I call upon public officials, educators, librarians, and all the people of the United States to observe this month with relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities."

     

             an_clap

     

     

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    JANUARY 31, 2024
    excerpt from the White House speech:


    " This National Black History Month, we celebrate the vast contributions of Black Americans to our country and recognize that Black history is American history and that Black culture, stories, and triumphs are at the core of who we are as a Nation.

    The soul of America is what makes us unique among all nations. We are the only country in the world founded on an idea. It is the idea that we are all created equal and deserve to be treated with equal dignity throughout our lives. While we still grapple today with the moral stain and vestiges of slavery — our country’s original sin — we have never walked away from the fight to fully realize the promise of America for all Americans.

    America is a great Nation because we choose to learn the good, the bad, and the full truth of the history of our country — histories and truths that we must preserve and protect for the next generation. This National Black History Month, as we remember where we have been, may we also recognize that our only way forward is by marching together.

    I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim February 2024 as National Black History Month. I call upon public officials, educators, librarians, and all the people of the United States to observe this month with relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities."

     

             an_clap

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2024 - 12:28 AM ET #3879

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    JANUARY 31, 2024excerpt from the White House speech: " This National Black History Month, we celebrate the vast contributions of Black Americans to our country and recognize that Black history is American history and that Black culture, stories, and triumphs are at the core of who we are as a Nation. The soul of America is what makes us unique among all nations. We are the only country in the world founded on an idea. It is the idea that we are all created equal and deserve to be treated with equal dignity throughout our lives. While we still grapple today with the moral stain and vestiges of slavery — our country’s original sin — we have never walked away from the fight to fully realize the promise of America for all Americans. America is a great Nation because we choose to learn the good, the bad, and the full truth of the history of our country — histories and truths that we must preserve and protect for the next generation. This National Black History Month, as we remember where we have been, may we also recognize that our only way forward is by marching together. I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim February 2024 as National Black History Month. I call upon public officials, educators, librarians, and all the people of the United States to observe this month with relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities."

    Is that right ?  Well, what do you make of all these statues that have been removed in recent years.  I mean, it's important to understand ""the full truth of the history of our country ."   Even, the bad, right ?  I mean, Biden just put it in his speech !! 

    Typical hypocrisy from the left...

    Carry on... sleep2

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    JANUARY 31, 2024excerpt from the White House speech: " This National Black History Month, we celebrate the vast contributions of Black Americans to our country and recognize that Black history is American history and that Black culture, stories, and triumphs are at the core of who we are as a Nation. The soul of America is what makes us unique among all nations. We are the only country in the world founded on an idea. It is the idea that we are all created equal and deserve to be treated with equal dignity throughout our lives. While we still grapple today with the moral stain and vestiges of slavery — our country’s original sin — we have never walked away from the fight to fully realize the promise of America for all Americans. America is a great Nation because we choose to learn the good, the bad, and the full truth of the history of our country — histories and truths that we must preserve and protect for the next generation. This National Black History Month, as we remember where we have been, may we also recognize that our only way forward is by marching together. I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim February 2024 as National Black History Month. I call upon public officials, educators, librarians, and all the people of the United States to observe this month with relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities."

    Is that right ?  Well, what do you make of all these statues that have been removed in recent years.  I mean, it's important to understand ""the full truth of the history of our country ."   Even, the bad, right ?  I mean, Biden just put it in his speech !! 

    Typical hypocrisy from the left...

    Carry on... sleep2

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2024 - 1:09 AM ET #3880

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:


    @fubah2

     an_speechless  That shows the Trump republican regime actually had a net loss of almost 3 million jobs during his reign as king of MAGA cult

     

    Obama had a net gain of over 10 million over his final four years an_clap

     

    I don't know to what degree those figures might be accurate but it sure looks bad for Trump and good for democrat administrations! Even before Trump f--ked America with disasterous mismanagement of covid, his average numbers were much less than Obama's and Biden's!

     

    Very bad numbers for trump according to the stats.

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:


    @fubah2

     an_speechless  That shows the Trump republican regime actually had a net loss of almost 3 million jobs during his reign as king of MAGA cult

     

    Obama had a net gain of over 10 million over his final four years an_clap

     

    I don't know to what degree those figures might be accurate but it sure looks bad for Trump and good for democrat administrations! Even before Trump f--ked America with disasterous mismanagement of covid, his average numbers were much less than Obama's and Biden's!

     

    Very bad numbers for trump according to the stats.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2024 - 4:35 AM ET #3881

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: @fubah2    That shows the Trump republican regime actually had a net loss of almost 3 million jobs during his reign as king of MAGA cult   Obama had a net gain of over 10 million over his final four years    I don't know to what degree those figures might be accurate but it sure looks bad for Trump and good for democrat administrations! Even before Trump f--ked America with disasterous mismanagement of covid, his average numbers were much less than Obama's and Biden's!   Very bad numbers for trump according to the stats.
    And after this year, trump's weak numbers by comparison will look even weaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: @fubah2    That shows the Trump republican regime actually had a net loss of almost 3 million jobs during his reign as king of MAGA cult   Obama had a net gain of over 10 million over his final four years    I don't know to what degree those figures might be accurate but it sure looks bad for Trump and good for democrat administrations! Even before Trump f--ked America with disasterous mismanagement of covid, his average numbers were much less than Obama's and Biden's!   Very bad numbers for trump according to the stats.
    And after this year, trump's weak numbers by comparison will look even weaker.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2024 - 8:39 AM ET #3882

    Biden administration announces $5 billion investment for research and development of computer chips.  Pandemic exposes risk to economy and national security of over dependence on Taiwan for supply.  Also emerging artificial intelligence technology is likely to increase demand for computer chips.

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    Biden administration announces $5 billion investment for research and development of computer chips.  Pandemic exposes risk to economy and national security of over dependence on Taiwan for supply.  Also emerging artificial intelligence technology is likely to increase demand for computer chips.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2024 - 9:04 AM ET #3883

    I am shocked and appalled the censors allow this thread inside the pages of Covers! The Biden Presidency: Repairing America Again! Are you kidding me! We all now know what the definition of liberalism is!

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    I am shocked and appalled the censors allow this thread inside the pages of Covers! The Biden Presidency: Repairing America Again! Are you kidding me! We all now know what the definition of liberalism is!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2024 - 5:37 PM ET #3884

    JANUARY 31, 2024
    excerpt from the White House speech:


    " America is a great Nation because we choose to learn the good, the bad, and the full truth of the history of our country — histories and truths that we must preserve and protect for the next generation. This National Black History Month, as we remember where we have been, may we also recognize that our only way forward is by marching together.

    I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim February 2024 as National Black History Month. I call upon public officials, educators, librarians, and all the people of the United States to observe this month with relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities."

    Reply

    JANUARY 31, 2024
    excerpt from the White House speech:


    " America is a great Nation because we choose to learn the good, the bad, and the full truth of the history of our country — histories and truths that we must preserve and protect for the next generation. This National Black History Month, as we remember where we have been, may we also recognize that our only way forward is by marching together.

    I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim February 2024 as National Black History Month. I call upon public officials, educators, librarians, and all the people of the United States to observe this month with relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities."

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2024 - 5:40 PM ET #3885

    have you been outside and seen what is happening....an_popcorn

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    have you been outside and seen what is happening....an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2024 - 10:07 AM ET #3886

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden administration announces $5 billion investment for research and development of computer chips. 

    Pandemic exposes risk to economy and national security of over dependence on Taiwan for supply. 

    Also emerging artificial intelligence technology is likely to increase demand for computer chips.

    an_clap

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden administration announces $5 billion investment for research and development of computer chips. 

    Pandemic exposes risk to economy and national security of over dependence on Taiwan for supply. 

    Also emerging artificial intelligence technology is likely to increase demand for computer chips.

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2024 - 11:01 PM ET #3887


    “Donald Trump’s campaign is about him, not America.
     Not you. Donald Trump’s campaign is obsessed with
     the past, not the future. He’s willing to sacrifice our
     democracy to put himself in power,”       - President Biden an_clap

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    “Donald Trump’s campaign is about him, not America.
     Not you. Donald Trump’s campaign is obsessed with
     the past, not the future. He’s willing to sacrifice our
     democracy to put himself in power,”       - President Biden an_clap

     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2024 - 11:06 PM ET #3888

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     What part of MAGA do you not understand  ? 

    MAGA - Make America great again.  

     

    It's amazing you guys can ridicule tha MAGA movement.  I mean, do you guys "" not "" love America  ?? confused

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     What part of MAGA do you not understand  ? 

    MAGA - Make America great again.  

     

    It's amazing you guys can ridicule tha MAGA movement.  I mean, do you guys "" not "" love America  ?? confused

     
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    @Rush51

     So putting America in the punchline makes it about America?

    Trump is about Trump so he is a decently smart cookie and knows how to play the GOP crowd, act patriotic and appeal to that sentiment. Trump is not a patriot to this country, he is a patriot to his brand and his declining family asset base.

    America is not GOP, it is everyone it includes those with differing opinions, non-religious and liberal, it includes all the population not just bible thumpers who like the MAGA slogan. 

    Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.

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    @Rush51

     So putting America in the punchline makes it about America?

    Trump is about Trump so he is a decently smart cookie and knows how to play the GOP crowd, act patriotic and appeal to that sentiment. Trump is not a patriot to this country, he is a patriot to his brand and his declining family asset base.

    America is not GOP, it is everyone it includes those with differing opinions, non-religious and liberal, it includes all the population not just bible thumpers who like the MAGA slogan. 

    Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.

     
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    @wallstreetcappers

     

     Did you not see in his campaign,  particularly in 2016, how he was able to connect  to blue collar workers.   And he backed this up by applying tariffs to countries that he felt were abusing American workers & our  economy. 

    And do you want me to repeat , yet again,  for the millionth time, how the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act helped Americans,  particularly middle class, lower-income workers.   These are "" all "" middle-class and lower income Americans.... not just GOP voters.  The numbers don't lie.  

    So, you can stop w your silly rhetoric that this is all about Trump.   You guys on the left just can't help yourself into what actually transpired 

     

     

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     Did you not see in his campaign,  particularly in 2016, how he was able to connect  to blue collar workers.   And he backed this up by applying tariffs to countries that he felt were abusing American workers & our  economy. 

    And do you want me to repeat , yet again,  for the millionth time, how the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act helped Americans,  particularly middle class, lower-income workers.   These are "" all "" middle-class and lower income Americans.... not just GOP voters.  The numbers don't lie.  

    So, you can stop w your silly rhetoric that this is all about Trump.   You guys on the left just can't help yourself into what actually transpired 

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Rush51  So putting America in the punchline makes it about America? Trump is about Trump so he is a decently smart cookie and knows how to play the GOP crowd, act patriotic and appeal to that sentiment. Trump is not a patriot to this country, he is a patriot to his brand and his declining family asset base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Rush51  So putting America in the punchline makes it about America? Trump is about Trump so he is a decently smart cookie and knows how to play the GOP crowd, act patriotic and appeal to that sentiment. Trump is not a patriot to this country, he is a patriot to his brand and his declining family asset base.

    (an_light*many thanks to our fiinest fact checker, thirdperson, for uncovering this new article)

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    an_lightAnd....Donald Trump has dropped to 2nd worst!


    10. Zachary Taylor
    9.  Herbert Hoover
    8.  Millard Fillmore
    7.  John Tyler
    6.  Warren G. Harding
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    The Atlantic reports on Biden's hidden economic success.  3 federal programs boost investment in over 1000 low income counties according to study from Massachusetts institute of technology.  Inflation reduction act, Infrastructure bill and Chips science act provide incentives for private sector to invest in clean energy, semi-conductors, bio manufacturing and other industries.

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    The Atlantic reports on Biden's hidden economic success.  3 federal programs boost investment in over 1000 low income counties according to study from Massachusetts institute of technology.  Inflation reduction act, Infrastructure bill and Chips science act provide incentives for private sector to invest in clean energy, semi-conductors, bio manufacturing and other industries.

     
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     Well you know I do not see your viewpoint on that reply, the tax reform act was not a net positive for everyone and it has not been for me personally so I cannot agree with that being a smack in the middle of the pack income family with SOME deductions. My state property tax here is less than I paid in PA and less than half of the states I would imagine, my mortgage deduction is not too high as Ive had a low rate 15 yr for quite some time, some this and that deductions like charitable contributions and higher education deductions for college tuition but I am not a massive deduction family, yet my tax burden went UP with the Trump tax scam, I am one of those who crossed the previous bar by a little (standard deduct) and had enough to impact my marginal tax bracket, so for me the impact is a negative. I would imagine that people from a higher SALT state got the sting pretty bad and that includes middle income like me, so I didnt get it the worst but the truth is that there was no need to overhaul the code, I still dont get why they did it..that goofball Treasury secretary might have wanted to make a splash so his blond wife was impressed I dunno...but I have no idea why they did it given that the US runs a DEFICIT, the money multiplier impact on GDP has not materialized and I read that this year some of the early phase in benefits will exit and the sting will really hit with what they pulled. I have not filed taxes yet but will shortly and will see.

    Trump RESONATES with people who are like him and those who are wool GOP fans, he does not resonate with women or minorities or people who have a true moral compass because he has none himself. Trump is about Trump not America not you or me, he is about McDonalds, his real estate business and how he can be the center of attention. He is not a leader he is not a patriot or a high value individual. Seek out people who are respectful to EVERYONE and not about self elevation as their core standards. You can do better than supporting a schlep like Trump, do not accept the garbage from your party and accept whatever is served to you by the GOP leadership.

     

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     Well you know I do not see your viewpoint on that reply, the tax reform act was not a net positive for everyone and it has not been for me personally so I cannot agree with that being a smack in the middle of the pack income family with SOME deductions. My state property tax here is less than I paid in PA and less than half of the states I would imagine, my mortgage deduction is not too high as Ive had a low rate 15 yr for quite some time, some this and that deductions like charitable contributions and higher education deductions for college tuition but I am not a massive deduction family, yet my tax burden went UP with the Trump tax scam, I am one of those who crossed the previous bar by a little (standard deduct) and had enough to impact my marginal tax bracket, so for me the impact is a negative. I would imagine that people from a higher SALT state got the sting pretty bad and that includes middle income like me, so I didnt get it the worst but the truth is that there was no need to overhaul the code, I still dont get why they did it..that goofball Treasury secretary might have wanted to make a splash so his blond wife was impressed I dunno...but I have no idea why they did it given that the US runs a DEFICIT, the money multiplier impact on GDP has not materialized and I read that this year some of the early phase in benefits will exit and the sting will really hit with what they pulled. I have not filed taxes yet but will shortly and will see.

    Trump RESONATES with people who are like him and those who are wool GOP fans, he does not resonate with women or minorities or people who have a true moral compass because he has none himself. Trump is about Trump not America not you or me, he is about McDonalds, his real estate business and how he can be the center of attention. He is not a leader he is not a patriot or a high value individual. Seek out people who are respectful to EVERYONE and not about self elevation as their core standards. You can do better than supporting a schlep like Trump, do not accept the garbage from your party and accept whatever is served to you by the GOP leadership.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @fubah2  What part of MAGA do you not understand  ?  MAGA - Make America great again.     It's amazing you guys can ridicule tha MAGA movement.  I mean, do you guys "" not "" love America  ??

    Are we sure that all of these posters are American who talk like thisan_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    @fubah2  What part of MAGA do you not understand  ?  MAGA - Make America great again.     It's amazing you guys can ridicule tha MAGA movement.  I mean, do you guys "" not "" love America  ??

    Are we sure that all of these posters are American who talk like thisan_light

     
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    Of course you don't see my viewpoint, because you fail to look at the success of the bill "for most Americans."  

    In 2018 & 2019 , real ""median"" household income in the U.S. rose by $5,000 - a bigger increase in only 2 years than the entire 8 years of the preceding recovery "combined" (and guess who was president then ?) .   

    In 2019 alone, real median household income rose by $4.4k, more than in the 8 years from 2010 to 2017 "combined" !! (and guess who was your president for almost all of that ?) .  

    And guess who wiped out all those gains after Trump left office  w/ "Bidenflation."     an_drunksick

     

     

    You can go right ahead and give me your personal experiences, but the data doesn't lie for what it did for American Households "as a whole".   

    ....... These are just two data points.  I could go on about how unemployment rates fell for blacks & minorities to lowest on record after the TCJA was passed....  sleep2

     

    And SALT deductions ?   Why is this even an issue ?  Why should American Taxpayers across the country subsidize  individuals in High Tax States.  You don't like how the TCJA limited SALT deductions ?  Move to a lower tax state !   Your state taxes you too much.  Don't expect other taxpayers in other states to subsidize the stupid (high) tax policies in your state.   an_light  

     

     

    So much for Trump looking out only for "himself."      

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    Of course you don't see my viewpoint, because you fail to look at the success of the bill "for most Americans."  

    In 2018 & 2019 , real ""median"" household income in the U.S. rose by $5,000 - a bigger increase in only 2 years than the entire 8 years of the preceding recovery "combined" (and guess who was president then ?) .   

    In 2019 alone, real median household income rose by $4.4k, more than in the 8 years from 2010 to 2017 "combined" !! (and guess who was your president for almost all of that ?) .  

    And guess who wiped out all those gains after Trump left office  w/ "Bidenflation."     an_drunksick

     

     

    You can go right ahead and give me your personal experiences, but the data doesn't lie for what it did for American Households "as a whole".   

    ....... These are just two data points.  I could go on about how unemployment rates fell for blacks & minorities to lowest on record after the TCJA was passed....  sleep2

     

    And SALT deductions ?   Why is this even an issue ?  Why should American Taxpayers across the country subsidize  individuals in High Tax States.  You don't like how the TCJA limited SALT deductions ?  Move to a lower tax state !   Your state taxes you too much.  Don't expect other taxpayers in other states to subsidize the stupid (high) tax policies in your state.   an_light  

     

     

    So much for Trump looking out only for "himself."      

     
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     Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.

    Time is a flat circle....
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     Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.

     
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    @Rush51

     All of this has been gone over a couple of times in depth in the other thread before. 

    peace_5

    Like I always say:  you cannot reason someone away from somewhere when reason is not what got them there.  
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     All of this has been gone over a couple of times in depth in the other thread before. 

    peace_5

    Like I always say:  you cannot reason someone away from somewhere when reason is not what got them there.  
    an_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @wallstreetcappers  Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.


    Trump cares about all in the country. 
    Now can I bash the other side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @wallstreetcappers  Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.


    Trump cares about all in the country. 
    Now can I bash the other side?

    an_wink

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump RESONATES with people who are like him and those who are wool GOP fans.

    he does not resonate with women or minorities or people who have a true moral compass because he has none himself. Trump is about Trump not America not you or me.

    he is about McDonalds, his real estate business and how he can be the center of attention.

    He is not a leader he is not a patriot or a high value individual.

    Could not have said it much better! And all factual! peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump RESONATES with people who are like him and those who are wool GOP fans.

    he does not resonate with women or minorities or people who have a true moral compass because he has none himself. Trump is about Trump not America not you or me.

    he is about McDonalds, his real estate business and how he can be the center of attention.

    He is not a leader he is not a patriot or a high value individual.

    Could not have said it much better! And all factual! peace_5

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Rush51  So putting America in the punchline makes it about America? Trump is about Trump so he is a decently smart cookie and knows how to play the GOP crowd, act patriotic and appeal to that sentiment. Trump is not a patriot to this country, he is a patriot to his brand and his declining family asset base. America is not GOP, it is everyone it includes those with differing opinions, non-religious and liberal, it includes all the population not just bible thumpers who like the MAGA slogan.  Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Rush51  So putting America in the punchline makes it about America? Trump is about Trump so he is a decently smart cookie and knows how to play the GOP crowd, act patriotic and appeal to that sentiment. Trump is not a patriot to this country, he is a patriot to his brand and his declining family asset base. America is not GOP, it is everyone it includes those with differing opinions, non-religious and liberal, it includes all the population not just bible thumpers who like the MAGA slogan.  Find a candidate who cares about all in the country then come and try to bash the other side.

    peace_5

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