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    The #1 thing I fear about Trump's chances to win it all...

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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 12:55 PM ET #1

    The national polling isn't accurate.

    I've found this confirmed by the mainstream media and through personal experience.

    People, a significant portion of them, DO NO LIKE TO ADMIT they will vote for Trump.

    The reasons are obvious and have been recounted in many threads.

    But when that curtain closes, you can have 5/6/7 point swings due to voters who polled as voting for Cruz or Rubio or undecided, and then when the lever is pulled, it is pulled for Trump in secret.

    Hillary currently leads Trump by 4 points nationally. Bernie by 10 but it will be very tough for Bernie to get the nomination.

    4 points is NOT significant when it comes to swing voters.

    So in the end, my national nightmare may come to fruition.

    The power of Trump.....is real.




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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    The national polling isn't accurate.

    I've found this confirmed by the mainstream media and through personal experience.

    People, a significant portion of them, DO NO LIKE TO ADMIT they will vote for Trump.

    The reasons are obvious and have been recounted in many threads.

    But when that curtain closes, you can have 5/6/7 point swings due to voters who polled as voting for Cruz or Rubio or undecided, and then when the lever is pulled, it is pulled for Trump in secret.

    Hillary currently leads Trump by 4 points nationally. Bernie by 10 but it will be very tough for Bernie to get the nomination.

    4 points is NOT significant when it comes to swing voters.

    So in the end, my national nightmare may come to fruition.

    The power of Trump.....is real.




     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 1:04 PM ET #2

    Americans are totally ticked off. Nowhere for a voter to go. Trump is in place at the right time. He will not disappoint. Both sides scared. The Clintons, O, Bush Cheney, Rumsfeld etc

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    Americans are totally ticked off. Nowhere for a voter to go. Trump is in place at the right time. He will not disappoint. Both sides scared. The Clintons, O, Bush Cheney, Rumsfeld etc

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 1:50 PM ET #3

    Lol it's not about the past and those people.

    The GOP has spent so much time trying to build Obama opposition with tea party, 2nd amendment; war on women, war on gays, war on science that in present day the party is a mess with no identity beyond emotion.

    The issue is the current state of the GOP being in complete shambles and having no real viable candidate.

    Trump has some similarities to palin in that she energized the emotionally based GOP.  The difference is that trump started earlier and did so more strategically playing off of the emotionally charge GOP and Their talking points.

    Similar to palin, I think once trump is elected as GOP candidate you are going to see tons of people asking that people consider what they are doing.

    Eventually it won't be cool to be a "trump"ette.  But for now they can continue "blowing" the same tune
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    Lol it's not about the past and those people.

    The GOP has spent so much time trying to build Obama opposition with tea party, 2nd amendment; war on women, war on gays, war on science that in present day the party is a mess with no identity beyond emotion.

    The issue is the current state of the GOP being in complete shambles and having no real viable candidate.

    Trump has some similarities to palin in that she energized the emotionally based GOP.  The difference is that trump started earlier and did so more strategically playing off of the emotionally charge GOP and Their talking points.

    Similar to palin, I think once trump is elected as GOP candidate you are going to see tons of people asking that people consider what they are doing.

    Eventually it won't be cool to be a "trump"ette.  But for now they can continue "blowing" the same tune
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 2:36 PM ET #4

    Trump will get even bigger. Huge crossover from disenchanted Lefties.

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    Trump will get even bigger. Huge crossover from disenchanted Lefties.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 3:09 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Lol it's not about the past and those people.

    The GOP has spent so much time trying to build Obama opposition with tea party, 2nd amendment; war on women, war on gays, war on science that in present day the party is a mess with no identity beyond emotion.

    The issue is the current state of the GOP being in complete shambles and having no real viable candidate.

    Trump has some similarities to palin in that she energized the emotionally based GOP.  The difference is that trump started earlier and did so more strategically playing off of the emotionally charge GOP and Their talking points.

    Similar to palin, I think once trump is elected as GOP candidate you are going to see tons of people asking that people consider what they are doing.

    Eventually it won't be cool to be a "trump"ette.  But for now they can continue "blowing" the same tune


    The GOP:   The greatest minds of the 1850's
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Lol it's not about the past and those people.

    The GOP has spent so much time trying to build Obama opposition with tea party, 2nd amendment; war on women, war on gays, war on science that in present day the party is a mess with no identity beyond emotion.

    The issue is the current state of the GOP being in complete shambles and having no real viable candidate.

    Trump has some similarities to palin in that she energized the emotionally based GOP.  The difference is that trump started earlier and did so more strategically playing off of the emotionally charge GOP and Their talking points.

    Similar to palin, I think once trump is elected as GOP candidate you are going to see tons of people asking that people consider what they are doing.

    Eventually it won't be cool to be a "trump"ette.  But for now they can continue "blowing" the same tune


    The GOP:   The greatest minds of the 1850's
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 5:03 PM ET #6

    I have been saying this for months,.... but you demlibs choose to just post a munch of emoji's

    I told you all 4-6 months ago that Trump was real, Trump will win... and the poll numbers vs HRC mean nothing.  I maintain this.

    It is finally setting in... I'm looking forward to a new avatar for BWS 

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    I have been saying this for months,.... but you demlibs choose to just post a munch of emoji's

    I told you all 4-6 months ago that Trump was real, Trump will win... and the poll numbers vs HRC mean nothing.  I maintain this.

    It is finally setting in... I'm looking forward to a new avatar for BWS 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 5:15 PM ET #7

    I pray that Trump gets the republican nomination. If it is Cruz or Rubio, we get to go back to the 15th century. But if its the Donald his massive ego will not let him work with the christian conservatives in congress. So we get 4 more years or gridlock. So be it. If Clinton or Sanders win we get 4 more years of gridlock. In the mindless times we live in, gridlock in Washington is the best we can hope for. The only positive we get from Cruz or Rubio is the possibility of some larger war in the middle east. And war means money for the corporations that control those two robots. So vote Trump and vote often.
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    I pray that Trump gets the republican nomination. If it is Cruz or Rubio, we get to go back to the 15th century. But if its the Donald his massive ego will not let him work with the christian conservatives in congress. So we get 4 more years or gridlock. So be it. If Clinton or Sanders win we get 4 more years of gridlock. In the mindless times we live in, gridlock in Washington is the best we can hope for. The only positive we get from Cruz or Rubio is the possibility of some larger war in the middle east. And war means money for the corporations that control those two robots. So vote Trump and vote often.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 6:19 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    I have been saying this for months,.... but you demlibs choose to just post a munch of emoji's

    I told you all 4-6 months ago that Trump was real, Trump will win... and the poll numbers vs HRC mean nothing.  I maintain this.

    It is finally setting in... I'm looking forward to a new avatar for BWS 


    If you have been saying it, I now give you the credit.

    Because I haven't believed it until the past few days and now it's true. He's the big favorite at -205. That's serious business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

    I have been saying this for months,.... but you demlibs choose to just post a munch of emoji's

    I told you all 4-6 months ago that Trump was real, Trump will win... and the poll numbers vs HRC mean nothing.  I maintain this.

    It is finally setting in... I'm looking forward to a new avatar for BWS 


    If you have been saying it, I now give you the credit.

    Because I haven't believed it until the past few days and now it's true. He's the big favorite at -205. That's serious business.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2016 - 7:53 PM ET #9


    "But when that curtain closes, you can have 5/6/7 point swings"

    Same can be said about women.

    They will claim to vote a certain way but behind the curtain they will vote for another woman.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    "But when that curtain closes, you can have 5/6/7 point swings"

    Same can be said about women.

    They will claim to vote a certain way but behind the curtain they will vote for another woman.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2016 - 10:16 AM ET #10

    I would love to turn the clock back to the 1850s
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    I would love to turn the clock back to the 1850s
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2016 - 10:23 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    I would love to turn the clock back to the 1850s
    Please tell us what you find so appealing about slavery, segregation, disenfranchised women and no polio vaccine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    I would love to turn the clock back to the 1850s
    Please tell us what you find so appealing about slavery, segregation, disenfranchised women and no polio vaccine.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Please tell us what you find so appealing about slavery, segregation, disenfranchised women and no polio vaccine.

    After a while he'd start complaining about that time too and wish for the 1750's.    These people who think Trump is so great are mostly the ones who blame government for their own shortcomings.  A few may have valid cases, but the vast majority are looking for something that isn't there and will never be there.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Please tell us what you find so appealing about slavery, segregation, disenfranchised women and no polio vaccine.

    After a while he'd start complaining about that time too and wish for the 1750's.    These people who think Trump is so great are mostly the ones who blame government for their own shortcomings.  A few may have valid cases, but the vast majority are looking for something that isn't there and will never be there.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2016 - 10:37 AM ET #13

    ^

    What I'm saying is, if you were a loser under Clinton, a loser under Bush and a loser under Obama, you're still gonna be a loser under Trump.
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    ^

    What I'm saying is, if you were a loser under Clinton, a loser under Bush and a loser under Obama, you're still gonna be a loser under Trump.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2016 - 8:13 PM ET #14

    I must confess that I completely misread the Trump phenomen and it looks like sports fan has been correct all along.   Rubio had a strong showing last nite but there are no states for him to win on Super Tuesday.   trump is going to win Repub and if the group thinking libs continue to berate Trump supporters he's going to win the general, too.

    Scal yur guy Bernie gave it a good go but he is toast.   For whatever reason the natl lib press has decided to abandon him again and return to the narrative that Hillarys coronation is a foregone conclusion.
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    I must confess that I completely misread the Trump phenomen and it looks like sports fan has been correct all along.   Rubio had a strong showing last nite but there are no states for him to win on Super Tuesday.   trump is going to win Repub and if the group thinking libs continue to berate Trump supporters he's going to win the general, too.

    Scal yur guy Bernie gave it a good go but he is toast.   For whatever reason the natl lib press has decided to abandon him again and return to the narrative that Hillarys coronation is a foregone conclusion.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2016 - 9:09 PM ET #15

    I think trump only shows how gullible half the nation is
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    I think trump only shows how gullible half the nation is
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2016 - 4:19 AM ET #16

    My #1 fear if LaDon becomes President, is that he has some kind of stroke that they hide from the press, and whatever euroslutt he is currently married to winds up running the cuntree. Kind of like when Ronnie was wearing depends and drooling on himself, so we had that cokehead Nancy running things.
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    My #1 fear if LaDon becomes President, is that he has some kind of stroke that they hide from the press, and whatever euroslutt he is currently married to winds up running the cuntree. Kind of like when Ronnie was wearing depends and drooling on himself, so we had that cokehead Nancy running things.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2016 - 8:17 AM ET #17

    The question is. What will turn out better? Hope and change or make America great again?
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    The question is. What will turn out better? Hope and change or make America great again?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2016 - 4:26 PM ET #18

    "EXPERTS" SAID that TRUMP could not win bla bla bla

    and ALL " EXPERTS" had  WRONG ( at this time) do you know why?

    it is simple!" EXPERTS" are just a JOKE!!!  They are wrong more than right  it is just a value society add to have more credit on business or politics

    I invite you to watch Documentaries about "Experts" and you will see I say true

    I would like to see Trump vs Sanders, USA should show the example in the rest of the world  it is sure peope will follow our example because here in Europe people had no Gods to change their vote! they are too much influence by media etc
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    "EXPERTS" SAID that TRUMP could not win bla bla bla

    and ALL " EXPERTS" had  WRONG ( at this time) do you know why?

    it is simple!" EXPERTS" are just a JOKE!!!  They are wrong more than right  it is just a value society add to have more credit on business or politics

    I invite you to watch Documentaries about "Experts" and you will see I say true

    I would like to see Trump vs Sanders, USA should show the example in the rest of the world  it is sure peope will follow our example because here in Europe people had no Gods to change their vote! they are too much influence by media etc
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2016 - 3:03 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    The national polling isn't accurate.

    I've found this confirmed by the mainstream media and through personal experience.

    People, a significant portion of them, DO NO LIKE TO ADMIT they will vote for Trump.

    The reasons are obvious and have been recounted in many threads.
    But when that curtain closes, you can have 5/6/7 point swings due to voters who polled as voting for Cruz or Rubio or undecided, and then when the lever is pulled, it is pulled for Trump in secret.

    Hillary currently leads Trump by 4 points nationally. Bernie by 10 but it will be very tough for Bernie to get the nominat

    4 points is NOT significant when it comes to swing voters.

    So in the end, my national nightmare may come to fruition.

    The power of Trump.....is real.






    scal, you been ok with me. so i say this to you.


     Hillary Clinton  
    -270
      Field (all other candidates)  
    +210


    there is a reason hillary is -270 brother.  bookmakers are not setimental,emotional fools swayed by media. they are on the $. hillary by -270!
    bigFnPOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    The national polling isn't accurate.

    I've found this confirmed by the mainstream media and through personal experience.

    People, a significant portion of them, DO NO LIKE TO ADMIT they will vote for Trump.

    The reasons are obvious and have been recounted in many threads.
    But when that curtain closes, you can have 5/6/7 point swings due to voters who polled as voting for Cruz or Rubio or undecided, and then when the lever is pulled, it is pulled for Trump in secret.

    Hillary currently leads Trump by 4 points nationally. Bernie by 10 but it will be very tough for Bernie to get the nominat

    4 points is NOT significant when it comes to swing voters.

    So in the end, my national nightmare may come to fruition.

    The power of Trump.....is real.






    scal, you been ok with me. so i say this to you.


     Hillary Clinton  
    -270
      Field (all other candidates)  
    +210


    there is a reason hillary is -270 brother.  bookmakers are not setimental,emotional fools swayed by media. they are on the $. hillary by -270!
     
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    It's funny to watch the sentimental, emotional fools who are swayed by media on this site.  
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    It's funny to watch the sentimental, emotional fools who are swayed by media on this site.  
     
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    Scalabrine and Vanzack don't even have a wager at all--they are Hillary supporters and Trump haters who are CONSOLING themselves with polls and hate vitriol from the MSM (mainstream media).

    They are still nervous that Bernie is still in the fight, and the FBI is investigating a career politician with a long history of deceipt, and they are moving forward --TREASON is unpardonable at the highest levels.
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    Scalabrine and Vanzack don't even have a wager at all--they are Hillary supporters and Trump haters who are CONSOLING themselves with polls and hate vitriol from the MSM (mainstream media).

    They are still nervous that Bernie is still in the fight, and the FBI is investigating a career politician with a long history of deceipt, and they are moving forward --TREASON is unpardonable at the highest levels.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    Scalabrine and Vanzack don't even have a wager at all--they are Hillary supporters and Trump haters who are CONSOLING themselves with polls and hate vitriol from the MSM (mainstream media). They are still nervous that Bernie is still in the fight, and the FBI is investigating a career politician with a long history of deceipt, and they are moving forward --TREASON is unpardonable at the highest levels.

    Scal and Vanzack are scared Hillary supporters and shills on this site for a traitor. They have no betting action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    Scalabrine and Vanzack don't even have a wager at all--they are Hillary supporters and Trump haters who are CONSOLING themselves with polls and hate vitriol from the MSM (mainstream media). They are still nervous that Bernie is still in the fight, and the FBI is investigating a career politician with a long history of deceipt, and they are moving forward --TREASON is unpardonable at the highest levels.

    Scal and Vanzack are scared Hillary supporters and shills on this site for a traitor. They have no betting action.
     
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    Relax_Dude,, in Vanzack's thread he said that he didn't have a bet yet..and was waiting till the Republican convention..I really doubt if he's scared to make a bet..just waiting for the right price ( if it hasn't passed him by already )..
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    Relax_Dude,, in Vanzack's thread he said that he didn't have a bet yet..and was waiting till the Republican convention..I really doubt if he's scared to make a bet..just waiting for the right price ( if it hasn't passed him by already )..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Relax_Dude,, in Vanzack's thread he said that he didn't have a bet yet..and was waiting till the Republican convention..I really doubt if he's scared to make a bet..just waiting for the right price ( if it hasn't passed him by already )..

    Ok, didn't catch that spin on it. Wise to wait for the FBI to finish. I am speechless that in this country we have Tom Brady suspended games for deflated footballs, yet Hillary leaves an open server of NATIONAL SECURITY, and doesn't answer the phone whole embassy staff are killed, and she gets nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Relax_Dude,, in Vanzack's thread he said that he didn't have a bet yet..and was waiting till the Republican convention..I really doubt if he's scared to make a bet..just waiting for the right price ( if it hasn't passed him by already )..

    Ok, didn't catch that spin on it. Wise to wait for the FBI to finish. I am speechless that in this country we have Tom Brady suspended games for deflated footballs, yet Hillary leaves an open server of NATIONAL SECURITY, and doesn't answer the phone whole embassy staff are killed, and she gets nothing.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's funny to watch the sentimental, emotional fools who are swayed by media on this site.  

    +1 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's funny to watch the sentimental, emotional fools who are swayed by media on this site.  

    +1 
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