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 Yeah, he did......& a lot of other stupid things. But no one had a monopoly on faux pas.

  The school issues here are a mess as well......open & close, open & close. But it isn't really a partisan issue. Every area has struggled with it. Seattle & the surrounding three counties dominate the voting in this state, thus we've been democrat-run for close to five decades. Eastern WA takes it in the shorts for the decisions of the majority in the west. It hasn't ALL been bad. They don't run a deficit while addressing most major issues in a timely matter, but man, they do love taxes. It's all relative. Every state will get you in one way or another.

 This pandemic & the riots have tested the character of the leaders & it hasn't been pretty........Mayor Durkin with her "summer of love" proclamation during the riots & CHOP occupation, Gov. Inslee, who claimed he knew nothing about CHOP when it was all over the news & blames everything on global warming, the Seattle CC, who wants to defund the police (& has) amidst the destruction of downtown EVEN THOUGH they only have the same size force as they did 30 years ago despite the population doubling. To Durkins' credit she has back-peddled a bit from her original stance. But over the last 10-15 years Seattle has turned into sewage, even though most of the surrounding areas are OK. It's easier to point a finger up here.

 

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 Yeah, he did......& a lot of other stupid things. But no one had a monopoly on faux pas.

  The school issues here are a mess as well......open & close, open & close. But it isn't really a partisan issue. Every area has struggled with it. Seattle & the surrounding three counties dominate the voting in this state, thus we've been democrat-run for close to five decades. Eastern WA takes it in the shorts for the decisions of the majority in the west. It hasn't ALL been bad. They don't run a deficit while addressing most major issues in a timely matter, but man, they do love taxes. It's all relative. Every state will get you in one way or another.

 This pandemic & the riots have tested the character of the leaders & it hasn't been pretty........Mayor Durkin with her "summer of love" proclamation during the riots & CHOP occupation, Gov. Inslee, who claimed he knew nothing about CHOP when it was all over the news & blames everything on global warming, the Seattle CC, who wants to defund the police (& has) amidst the destruction of downtown EVEN THOUGH they only have the same size force as they did 30 years ago despite the population doubling. To Durkins' credit she has back-peddled a bit from her original stance. But over the last 10-15 years Seattle has turned into sewage, even though most of the surrounding areas are OK. It's easier to point a finger up here.

 

 
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 That's a nice theory but it doesn't apply here. There were several attempts that I know of, but the only one that really got any press was when they tried to storm SPD Sgt. Best's house, who lives closer to me than Seattle. peace_5

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 That's a nice theory but it doesn't apply here. There were several attempts that I know of, but the only one that really got any press was when they tried to storm SPD Sgt. Best's house, who lives closer to me than Seattle. peace_5

 
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 Trump gets blamed for everything and clearly he has done himself no favors and you get that.  However, many cities and states with covid issues, riots etc are democrat run and have had the ability to run things as they see fit and it has not worked out well but to point that out is being a Trumper and nothing else.  Before I get blasted I know republican run states are not above problems as well. 

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 Trump gets blamed for everything and clearly he has done himself no favors and you get that.  However, many cities and states with covid issues, riots etc are democrat run and have had the ability to run things as they see fit and it has not worked out well but to point that out is being a Trumper and nothing else.  Before I get blasted I know republican run states are not above problems as well. 

 
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@StumpTownStu  "You should google the IRA. Not the IRA you're thinking about. The Internet Research Agency. You should read up on how they use Facebook, Twitter, ect. It's eye opening stuff. So i'm not shocked that all of these "liberal idiots" were making a big stink on Twitter yet nothing became of it. They were probably bots to begin with."  That's a nice theory but it doesn't apply here. There were several attempts that I know of, but the only one that really got any press was when they tried to storm SPD Sgt. Best's house, who lives closer to me than Seattle.

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@StumpTownStu  "You should google the IRA. Not the IRA you're thinking about. The Internet Research Agency. You should read up on how they use Facebook, Twitter, ect. It's eye opening stuff. So i'm not shocked that all of these "liberal idiots" were making a big stink on Twitter yet nothing became of it. They were probably bots to begin with."  That's a nice theory but it doesn't apply here. There were several attempts that I know of, but the only one that really got any press was when they tried to storm SPD Sgt. Best's house, who lives closer to me than Seattle.

I forgot you live near Seattle, Mugg. Say no more.

 
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@wallstreetcappers   This virus hit EVERYWHERE! NOBODY knew exactly what it was  ====== This is false.  It was known immediately as virus, and a contagion, similar to SARS.  That much was known initially.  And before it got completely out of hand by irresponsible governments, it was known to pass easily from human to human, much like a cold or flu in infection susceptability.       & NOBODY was able to stop its spread. ======= Eradicate it, no.  Stop the spread and/or significantly reduce the spread to infitismal quantities,  YES!! I have shown charts *REPEATEDLY* detailing the nations that have done so successfully.     Even epidemiologists couldn't agree how to handle it. ======= Partly true but very misleading, in that it implies there was a near 50/50 disagreement.  A few could not agree, but MOST AGREED to treat this as a deadly contagion that could (and did) evolve into a full blown person-to-person pandemic     People of all ilks, both in their arrogance & their hypocrisy, have done little to curb it. ======== In the US and a handful of other nations, this is true, but not applicable to most. A majority of nations in the world have acted responsibly, though NOT the trump regime.     Even in hindsight, blaming one person for this pandemic is just asinine ======= AGREED!! However, on a different subject -- protecting one's citizens from threat (be it military, cyber, financial, or biological) -- that is a responsibility and ACCOUNTABILITY that *DOES* fall 100% on the nation's leaders trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic! Repeating for added emphasis: trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic!!!! He is however, TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FAILING TO PROTECT US *FROM* the pandemic! It is HIS number one top priority!  Protect the citizens at all costs! He failed.  And he failed badly. And right now there are at least 261,500 reasons that support this conclusion.

Indeed, Mr. Donald J Trump has acknowledged the severity of Covid-19 back in February of this year. He knew Covid-19 is deadly stuff but failed to act properly in dealing this pandemic.   

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@wallstreetcappers   This virus hit EVERYWHERE! NOBODY knew exactly what it was  ====== This is false.  It was known immediately as virus, and a contagion, similar to SARS.  That much was known initially.  And before it got completely out of hand by irresponsible governments, it was known to pass easily from human to human, much like a cold or flu in infection susceptability.       & NOBODY was able to stop its spread. ======= Eradicate it, no.  Stop the spread and/or significantly reduce the spread to infitismal quantities,  YES!! I have shown charts *REPEATEDLY* detailing the nations that have done so successfully.     Even epidemiologists couldn't agree how to handle it. ======= Partly true but very misleading, in that it implies there was a near 50/50 disagreement.  A few could not agree, but MOST AGREED to treat this as a deadly contagion that could (and did) evolve into a full blown person-to-person pandemic     People of all ilks, both in their arrogance & their hypocrisy, have done little to curb it. ======== In the US and a handful of other nations, this is true, but not applicable to most. A majority of nations in the world have acted responsibly, though NOT the trump regime.     Even in hindsight, blaming one person for this pandemic is just asinine ======= AGREED!! However, on a different subject -- protecting one's citizens from threat (be it military, cyber, financial, or biological) -- that is a responsibility and ACCOUNTABILITY that *DOES* fall 100% on the nation's leaders trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic! Repeating for added emphasis: trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic!!!! He is however, TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FAILING TO PROTECT US *FROM* the pandemic! It is HIS number one top priority!  Protect the citizens at all costs! He failed.  And he failed badly. And right now there are at least 261,500 reasons that support this conclusion.

Indeed, Mr. Donald J Trump has acknowledged the severity of Covid-19 back in February of this year. He knew Covid-19 is deadly stuff but failed to act properly in dealing this pandemic.   

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 

People of all ilks, both in their arrogance & their hypocrisy, have done little to curb it.

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In the US and a handful of other nations, this is true, but not applicable to most.

A majority of nations in the world have acted responsibly, though NOT the trump regime.

 

 

Even in hindsight, blaming one person for this pandemic is just asinine

=======

AGREED!!

However, on a different subject -- protecting one's citizens from threat (be it military, cyber, financial, or biological) -- that is a responsibility and ACCOUNTABILITY that *DOES* fall 100% on the nation's leaders

trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic!

Repeating for added emphasis:

trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic!!!!

He is however, TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FAILING TO PROTECT US *FROM* the pandemic!

It is HIS number one top priority!  Protect the citizens at all costs!

He failed.  And he failed badly.

And right now there are at least 261,500 reasons that support this conclusion.

 

 

 

Indeed, Mr. Donald J Trump has acknowledged the severity of Covid-19 back in February of this year.

He knew Covid-19 is deadly stuff but failed to act properly in dealing this pandemic.

 

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People of all ilks, both in their arrogance & their hypocrisy, have done little to curb it.

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In the US and a handful of other nations, this is true, but not applicable to most.

A majority of nations in the world have acted responsibly, though NOT the trump regime.

 

 

Even in hindsight, blaming one person for this pandemic is just asinine

=======

AGREED!!

However, on a different subject -- protecting one's citizens from threat (be it military, cyber, financial, or biological) -- that is a responsibility and ACCOUNTABILITY that *DOES* fall 100% on the nation's leaders

trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic!

Repeating for added emphasis:

trump is NOT to blame for the worldwide coronavirus pandemic!!!!

He is however, TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR FAILING TO PROTECT US *FROM* the pandemic!

It is HIS number one top priority!  Protect the citizens at all costs!

He failed.  And he failed badly.

And right now there are at least 261,500 reasons that support this conclusion.

 

 

 

Indeed, Mr. Donald J Trump has acknowledged the severity of Covid-19 back in February of this year.

He knew Covid-19 is deadly stuff but failed to act properly in dealing this pandemic.

 

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I thought you were a fellow AZ-er thus all the petty detail about neighboring school districts. My comment was of 3 districts in the exact same geographic area, they border each other and are within say a 10 mile radius yet one who IS partisan leadership acts completely opposite of the other two and the super is extremely conservative GOP...that is fact.

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I thought you were a fellow AZ-er thus all the petty detail about neighboring school districts. My comment was of 3 districts in the exact same geographic area, they border each other and are within say a 10 mile radius yet one who IS partisan leadership acts completely opposite of the other two and the super is extremely conservative GOP...that is fact.

 
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Two members of the Swedish Royal Family have tested positive for COVID-19 after attending a private funeral, according to the royal house.

Prince Carl Philip and his wife Princess Sofia are isolating after receiving positive results to coronavirus testing.

A statement from the royal household read: “On Wednesday, November 25, Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia in quarantine after they showed symptoms of illness and were subsequently found to be infected with COVID-19.

“The prince and princess show milder flu symptoms, but feel well under the circumstances. Immediately after the illness, the Prince and Princess were quarantined at home with their children.

“Infection tracing is initiated under the supervision of the King.

“The King and Queen and The Crown Princess and Prince Daniel, who are part of the infection tracking, will be tested on Thursday.”

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Two members of the Swedish Royal Family have tested positive for COVID-19 after attending a private funeral, according to the royal house.

Prince Carl Philip and his wife Princess Sofia are isolating after receiving positive results to coronavirus testing.

A statement from the royal household read: “On Wednesday, November 25, Prince Carl Philip and Princess Sofia in quarantine after they showed symptoms of illness and were subsequently found to be infected with COVID-19.

“The prince and princess show milder flu symptoms, but feel well under the circumstances. Immediately after the illness, the Prince and Princess were quarantined at home with their children.

“Infection tracing is initiated under the supervision of the King.

“The King and Queen and The Crown Princess and Prince Daniel, who are part of the infection tracking, will be tested on Thursday.”

 
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With three words, Sweden's King Carl Gustaf captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on a controversial herd immunity strategy and coronavirus case numbers explode.
On Instagram, he wrote, simply: "Hold on tight!"

The message is echoing around the Nordic breakaway nation which, up until now, has run a distinctly different race to its neighbours who locked down hard when the pandemic breached its borders.

It signals a complete reversal of a policy that allowed Swedes to govern themselves in the hopes that life could go on as normal.

Life did carry on as normal and it looked like Sweden might be vindicated for its strategy. But in the past few weeks, the country of 10 million has been smashed by Covid-19.

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With three words, Sweden's King Carl Gustaf captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on a controversial herd immunity strategy and coronavirus case numbers explode.
On Instagram, he wrote, simply: "Hold on tight!"

The message is echoing around the Nordic breakaway nation which, up until now, has run a distinctly different race to its neighbours who locked down hard when the pandemic breached its borders.

It signals a complete reversal of a policy that allowed Swedes to govern themselves in the hopes that life could go on as normal.

Life did carry on as normal and it looked like Sweden might be vindicated for its strategy. But in the past few weeks, the country of 10 million has been smashed by Covid-19.

 
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In the past few weeks, the country of 10 million has been smashed by Covid-19.

 

‘We have failed’:
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amid rising deaths

Admission comes as government begins to impose tougher lockdown rules.
Sweden has been at times upheld by those dummies sceptical of mitigation efforts
as an example of a better approach, but its death toll has been vastly higher
than all its Nordic neighbours.

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In the past few weeks, the country of 10 million has been smashed by Covid-19.

 

‘We have failed’:
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Admission comes as government begins to impose tougher lockdown rules.
Sweden has been at times upheld by those dummies sceptical of mitigation efforts
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than all its Nordic neighbours.

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news

 
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‘We have failed’:
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Admission comes as government begins to impose tougher lockdown rules.

 

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Beside Sweden and "herd mentality" from Trump, I didn't see other countries on this planet going for herd immunity through deliberate population Covid-19 infection. Sweden has admittedly failed on it, is America really aiming for possible over millions deaths through Trump's "herd mentality"? There is another option which has been endorsed by majority of health experts and medical scientists: vaccination on 70% and more of US population. Science over politics or silliness. 

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Beside Sweden and "herd mentality" from Trump, I didn't see other countries on this planet going for herd immunity through deliberate population Covid-19 infection. Sweden has admittedly failed on it, is America really aiming for possible over millions deaths through Trump's "herd mentality"? There is another option which has been endorsed by majority of health experts and medical scientists: vaccination on 70% and more of US population. Science over politics or silliness. 

 
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https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-coronavirus-didnt-seek-herd-immunity-torbjorn-sohlstrom/

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Beside Sweden and "herd mentality" from Trump, I didn't see other countries on this planet going for herd immunity through deliberate population Covid-19 infection.

Sweden has admittedly failed on it

 

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Sweden has admittedly failed on it

 

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Essentially zero Covid deaths in Sweden for a month now. 

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Deaths per million last 7 days. 

Sweden — 0.19 

Joe Biden’s US — 6.97 

 

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Sweden — 0.19 

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sweden's experiment in trusting the people to act responsibly without government rules   FAILED

Did it? 

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    Essentially zero Covid deaths in Sweden for a month now.  Deaths per million last 7 days.  Sweden — 0.19  Joe Biden’s US — 6.97     sweden's experiment in trusting the people to act responsibly without government rules   FAILED Did it?

Sweden death toll in July doesn't tell the whole story.  For 10 previous months, Sweden case count and death rate are higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, and stricter public health measures.  In 2020, Organization for economic development report concludes Sweden fared worst among 35 european countries in pandemic response. 

King and prime minister admit hands off strategy has been a failure.  So Sweden switched from a strategy of herd immunity to a strategy of virus suppression which worked better.  For examples, limits on gatherings, travel restrictions, extension of paid sick leave, social distancing, ban on visitors to nursing homes and more.  Also vaccination has helped to reduce covid cases, deaths and hospitalizations.

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    Essentially zero Covid deaths in Sweden for a month now.  Deaths per million last 7 days.  Sweden — 0.19  Joe Biden’s US — 6.97     sweden's experiment in trusting the people to act responsibly without government rules   FAILED Did it?

Sweden death toll in July doesn't tell the whole story.  For 10 previous months, Sweden case count and death rate are higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, and stricter public health measures.  In 2020, Organization for economic development report concludes Sweden fared worst among 35 european countries in pandemic response. 

King and prime minister admit hands off strategy has been a failure.  So Sweden switched from a strategy of herd immunity to a strategy of virus suppression which worked better.  For examples, limits on gatherings, travel restrictions, extension of paid sick leave, social distancing, ban on visitors to nursing homes and more.  Also vaccination has helped to reduce covid cases, deaths and hospitalizations.

 
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The prime minister never said that. 

Show me a source. 

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Sweden has much better numbers than Belgium, Italy, UK, Spain, Portugal, France and other European countries that imposed strict lockdowns. 

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weden death toll in July doesn't tell the whole story. For 10 previous months, Sweden case count and death rate are higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, and stricter public health measures. In 2020, Organization for economic development report concludes Sweden fared worst among 35 european countries in pandemic response.

King and prime minister admit hands off strategy has been a failure. So Sweden switched from a strategy of herd immunity to a strategy of virus suppression which worked better. For examples, limits on gatherings, travel restrictions, extension of paid sick leave, social distancing, ban on visitors to nursing homes and more. Also vaccination has helped to reduce covid cases, deaths and hospitalizations.

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of course too sweden does not have anti-vaxx rumplickers and fuckercarlson jerks to cause idiots to go maskless and defy the rump-vaccines

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weden death toll in July doesn't tell the whole story. For 10 previous months, Sweden case count and death rate are higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, and stricter public health measures. In 2020, Organization for economic development report concludes Sweden fared worst among 35 european countries in pandemic response.

King and prime minister admit hands off strategy has been a failure. So Sweden switched from a strategy of herd immunity to a strategy of virus suppression which worked better. For examples, limits on gatherings, travel restrictions, extension of paid sick leave, social distancing, ban on visitors to nursing homes and more. Also vaccination has helped to reduce covid cases, deaths and hospitalizations.

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Vaccination rate 

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sweden death toll in July doesn't tell the whole story. For 10 previous months, Sweden case count and death rate are higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, and stricter public health measures. In 2020, Organization for economic development report concludes Sweden fared worst among 35 european countries in pandemic response.

King and prime minister admit hands off strategy has been a failure. So Sweden switched from a strategy of herd immunity to a strategy of virus suppression which worked better. For examples, limits on gatherings, travel restrictions, extension of paid sick leave, social distancing, ban on visitors to nursing homes and more. Also vaccination has helped to reduce covid cases, deaths and hospitalizations.

 

 

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of course too sweden does not have anti-vaxx rumplickers and fuckercarlson jerks to cause idiots to go maskless and defy the rump-vaccines

the worst being people like fuckercarlson with a national audience

sweden doesnt allow this

 

 

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sweden death toll in July doesn't tell the whole story. For 10 previous months, Sweden case count and death rate are higher than any of its Nordic neighbors, all of which imposed lockdowns, and stricter public health measures. In 2020, Organization for economic development report concludes Sweden fared worst among 35 european countries in pandemic response.

King and prime minister admit hands off strategy has been a failure. So Sweden switched from a strategy of herd immunity to a strategy of virus suppression which worked better. For examples, limits on gatherings, travel restrictions, extension of paid sick leave, social distancing, ban on visitors to nursing homes and more. Also vaccination has helped to reduce covid cases, deaths and hospitalizations.

 

 

thirdperson with the relevent facts  thumbs_up

of course too sweden does not have anti-vaxx rumplickers and fuckercarlson jerks to cause idiots to go maskless and defy the rump-vaccines

the worst being people like fuckercarlson with a national audience

sweden doesnt allow this

 

 

 
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People in Sweden are less likely to wear a mask and are also less likely to be vaccinated. 

Sweden doesn’t allow what? 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/sweden-coronavirus-face-mask-wearers-describe-suspicion-abuse-2021-6%3famp

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People in Sweden are less likely to wear a mask and are also less likely to be vaccinated. 

Sweden doesn’t allow what? 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/sweden-coronavirus-face-mask-wearers-describe-suspicion-abuse-2021-6%3famp

 
 
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A gentle reminder that there are countries that never did lockdowns, mask mandates, or any of this other BS, and they fared just as well (if not better) with this virus.

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A gentle reminder that there are countries that never did lockdowns, mask mandates, or any of this other BS, and they fared just as well (if not better) with this virus.

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