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    Raiders22
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 8:44 PM ET #176

    The issue is still the same.  A lot of folks are critical of Trump on a lot of things.  But they still vote for him because he is the best candidate for the country overall.  They can look and see what happened while he was in his first term and judge it for themselves.  Over and over I have said that folks did not elect Trump because of his manners or his polished political persona.  They elected him because they were tired of the regular old politicians. 

    Just because you do not agree with Trump on every single matter does not mean that he is not the best candidate.  Otherwise, you would never vote for anyone.

    Trump was not my original choice by any means.  But the fact that he has done so well and has shown the ability to stand and fight against the media and congress on issues make him a better choice than someone that would just wilt and cave at the first sign of adversity.

    If what you want to do is vote for the nicest, kindest gentleman that will get run right over by the media and congress -- then that is your choice.  Just a very odd way of deciding on what your top reasons for voting is.  Issues and results matter more to me than how well a candidate is liked by the media.

    Trump vs. Clinton was an easy choice for me.

    Trump vs. Biden is an easy choice for me.

    Weird to think anyone would see either of the other two producing more for the country, even though they might be more polite and likable.  I think that is part of why people elected a successful businessman instead of a tried-and-true (but failed by and large) politician.

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    The issue is still the same.  A lot of folks are critical of Trump on a lot of things.  But they still vote for him because he is the best candidate for the country overall.  They can look and see what happened while he was in his first term and judge it for themselves.  Over and over I have said that folks did not elect Trump because of his manners or his polished political persona.  They elected him because they were tired of the regular old politicians. 

    Just because you do not agree with Trump on every single matter does not mean that he is not the best candidate.  Otherwise, you would never vote for anyone.

    Trump was not my original choice by any means.  But the fact that he has done so well and has shown the ability to stand and fight against the media and congress on issues make him a better choice than someone that would just wilt and cave at the first sign of adversity.

    If what you want to do is vote for the nicest, kindest gentleman that will get run right over by the media and congress -- then that is your choice.  Just a very odd way of deciding on what your top reasons for voting is.  Issues and results matter more to me than how well a candidate is liked by the media.

    Trump vs. Clinton was an easy choice for me.

    Trump vs. Biden is an easy choice for me.

    Weird to think anyone would see either of the other two producing more for the country, even though they might be more polite and likable.  I think that is part of why people elected a successful businessman instead of a tried-and-true (but failed by and large) politician.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 9:22 PM ET #177

    Raiders,

    My word...how many times do I need to repeat myself? Lets just go back to how it was before, you go your path and I will go mine. I am not interested if Trump thinks he has done more except Lincoln...it is too subjective and stupid to even consider. Last time...WHO SAYS STUPID THINGS LIKE THIS. That was my point....and then I said who believes a single word out of his trap...and I explained that 5 times. Someone that has a nervous twitch like Trump does and throws out the terms he does, I cant believe a word he says...its garbage. This is not about if this is provable or if YOU think it is because it is subjective, a waste of time to consider and absurd at best. I dont need you to COPY AND PASTE ten pages of rah rah Trump...I am not concerned with your attempts to prove a point....because THAT IS NOT THE POINT.

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    Raiders,

    My word...how many times do I need to repeat myself? Lets just go back to how it was before, you go your path and I will go mine. I am not interested if Trump thinks he has done more except Lincoln...it is too subjective and stupid to even consider. Last time...WHO SAYS STUPID THINGS LIKE THIS. That was my point....and then I said who believes a single word out of his trap...and I explained that 5 times. Someone that has a nervous twitch like Trump does and throws out the terms he does, I cant believe a word he says...its garbage. This is not about if this is provable or if YOU think it is because it is subjective, a waste of time to consider and absurd at best. I dont need you to COPY AND PASTE ten pages of rah rah Trump...I am not concerned with your attempts to prove a point....because THAT IS NOT THE POINT.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 9:36 PM ET #178

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: The Fauci said not to wear masks is the dumbest argument possible. He said that for less than a month, then once he realized the seriousness of the virus he advocated for mask use ever since. Meanwhile, Fat Donnie still won't support mask wearing. Just stop. You sound ignorant.   not only that but fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the dummies would completely misunderstand it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed .   so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply .  faucis reasoning makes perfect sense . and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ??????? because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned I am glad you can admit that Fauci deliberately lied to American citizens about not wearing masks, even though he knew they could potentially save lives.  He is the authority on infectious disease and you give him a pass.  Game Set Match. You are truly clueless. Dr. Fauci did not deliberately lie he just did not possess complete information about the virus yet. Deliberately lying is what Fat Donnie does every time he opens his fat mouth. Make up your mind, did Fauci outwit the public by saying not to wear a mask so we could save them for front line workers or did he not have complete information?  If the leading authority on infectious disease didnt have complete information, how did you expect "Fat Donnie" to have complete information?   Game Set Match. Are you seriously this slow? Have you not heard the Woodward tapes with Fat Donnie? Do you live in a cave? Fat Donnie is on tape discussing how serious and contagious the virus is in January of 2020. Claiming it was not simply old people at risk, that is was much more serious than the flu, and that it was airborne in JANUARY of 2020. Yet, he has been lying about each one of the points for the past 8 months, despite knowing this complete information, probably before even Dr. Fauci did.

    You seriously need to get your head out of Fat Donnies a$$ and pay attention.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: The Fauci said not to wear masks is the dumbest argument possible. He said that for less than a month, then once he realized the seriousness of the virus he advocated for mask use ever since. Meanwhile, Fat Donnie still won't support mask wearing. Just stop. You sound ignorant.   not only that but fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the dummies would completely misunderstand it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed .   so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply .  faucis reasoning makes perfect sense . and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ??????? because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned I am glad you can admit that Fauci deliberately lied to American citizens about not wearing masks, even though he knew they could potentially save lives.  He is the authority on infectious disease and you give him a pass.  Game Set Match. You are truly clueless. Dr. Fauci did not deliberately lie he just did not possess complete information about the virus yet. Deliberately lying is what Fat Donnie does every time he opens his fat mouth. Make up your mind, did Fauci outwit the public by saying not to wear a mask so we could save them for front line workers or did he not have complete information?  If the leading authority on infectious disease didnt have complete information, how did you expect "Fat Donnie" to have complete information?   Game Set Match. Are you seriously this slow? Have you not heard the Woodward tapes with Fat Donnie? Do you live in a cave? Fat Donnie is on tape discussing how serious and contagious the virus is in January of 2020. Claiming it was not simply old people at risk, that is was much more serious than the flu, and that it was airborne in JANUARY of 2020. Yet, he has been lying about each one of the points for the past 8 months, despite knowing this complete information, probably before even Dr. Fauci did.

    You seriously need to get your head out of Fat Donnies a$$ and pay attention.

     

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 9:38 PM ET #179

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear:

    Fauci said dont wear masks on March 8th...

     

    fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand

    it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense .

    and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ???????

    because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear:

    Fauci said dont wear masks on March 8th...

     

    fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand

    it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense .

    and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ???????

    because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 9:41 PM ET #180

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    gamble,

    read what I said...and yes you do fall into this grouping. Look at your post history it is right there, plain and easy to see. You do not just openly admit that you support the platform and are against the candidate. If I were voting based on my personal platform (which I do not do) I would be open and willing to admit that the candidate does not matter and yes he is a big pile of crap but the platform is more important and that you are against the other platform.

    See that is OK...at least you call a spade a spade, not what you and others do which is minimize and rationalize one of the WORST political figures to ever come to the dance. Not that my respect means anything but to ignore really awful disgusting behavior and act like it is not there or not important is as bad as the other political party you despise.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    gamble,

    read what I said...and yes you do fall into this grouping. Look at your post history it is right there, plain and easy to see. You do not just openly admit that you support the platform and are against the candidate. If I were voting based on my personal platform (which I do not do) I would be open and willing to admit that the candidate does not matter and yes he is a big pile of crap but the platform is more important and that you are against the other platform.

    See that is OK...at least you call a spade a spade, not what you and others do which is minimize and rationalize one of the WORST political figures to ever come to the dance. Not that my respect means anything but to ignore really awful disgusting behavior and act like it is not there or not important is as bad as the other political party you despise.

     

          an_light     peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 10:09 PM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Fauci said dont wear masks on March 8th...   fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense . and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ??????? because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned

    Great, so you also admit that Fauci knowingly lied to the American public even though he knew it could save lives.  He could have said, "cover your face, but do not horde PPE".  It is not the job of the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases to be the keeper of N95 masks, it is his job to alert the public of the dangers of a highly contagious disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Fauci said dont wear masks on March 8th...   fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense . and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ??????? because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned

    Great, so you also admit that Fauci knowingly lied to the American public even though he knew it could save lives.  He could have said, "cover your face, but do not horde PPE".  It is not the job of the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases to be the keeper of N95 masks, it is his job to alert the public of the dangers of a highly contagious disease.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 10:57 PM ET #182

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Fauci said dont wear masks on March 8th...   fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense . and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ??????? because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned Great, so you also admit that Fauci knowingly lied to the American public even though he knew it could save lives.  He could have said, "cover your face, but do not horde PPE".  It is not the job of the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases to be the keeper of N95 masks, it is his job to alert the public of the dangers of a highly contagious disease.

    You seriously have mental problems. The vast majority of Americans support Dr. Fauci's handling of this. He has been preaching mask use for the past 6 months, encouraging social distancing, and recommending the avoidance of mass gatherings. Fat Donnie meanwhile disregards each of these necessary measures, holds rallies, and rails against mask use. You think that is responsible handling of a deadly virus??? an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Fauci said dont wear masks on March 8th...   fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense . and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ??????? because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned Great, so you also admit that Fauci knowingly lied to the American public even though he knew it could save lives.  He could have said, "cover your face, but do not horde PPE".  It is not the job of the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases to be the keeper of N95 masks, it is his job to alert the public of the dangers of a highly contagious disease.

    You seriously have mental problems. The vast majority of Americans support Dr. Fauci's handling of this. He has been preaching mask use for the past 6 months, encouraging social distancing, and recommending the avoidance of mass gatherings. Fat Donnie meanwhile disregards each of these necessary measures, holds rallies, and rails against mask use. You think that is responsible handling of a deadly virus??? an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:00 PM ET #183

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    You seriously have mental problems. The vast majority of Americans support Dr. Fauci's handling of this. He has been preaching mask use for the past 6 months, encouraging social distancing, and recommending the avoidance of mass gatherings. Fat Donnie meanwhile disregards each of these necessary measures, holds rallies, and rails against mask use. You think that is responsible handling of a deadly virus???

    fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand

    it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense .

    and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ???????

    because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    You seriously have mental problems. The vast majority of Americans support Dr. Fauci's handling of this. He has been preaching mask use for the past 6 months, encouraging social distancing, and recommending the avoidance of mass gatherings. Fat Donnie meanwhile disregards each of these necessary measures, holds rallies, and rails against mask use. You think that is responsible handling of a deadly virus???

    fauci clarified why he was saying that because he feared the rump licker dummies would completely misunderstand

    it was because the entire nation was critically short of the n95 masks which health providers and first responders desperately needed . so obviously ya dont want the public racing out to buy up the very limited supply . faucis reasoning makes perfect sense .

    and why were we so critically short of those n95 masks fauci didnt want us to buy ???????

    because some a$$ in the current oval office neglected to restock the national supply for hospital use during his first 3 yrs despite being warned

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:06 PM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: So let me get this straight, Trump knew how dangerous Covid was well before the leading authority on infectious disease?  Trump downplayed the severity of the virus so that there wasnt a mass panic and that was horrible.  Fauci downplayed the severity so there wasnt mass panic but "meh, I can see why".    Trump gets his information from the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (FAUCI) but somehow knew more about Covid than the director?  But Trump is also stupid.   Did I get that right? You need to repeat your government or political science classes clearly. You realize it is perfectly plausible that Fat Donnie had information before Dr. Fauci right? This is because the President is the Chief Executive, Head of State, and in charge of foreign policy ,which means it is entirely likely he was speaking to the Chinese President at the onset of the outbreak, especially considering the two countries were actively involved in trade negotiations. You don't think COVID-19 came up in discussions between the two countries long before Dr. Fauci had access to information? Trump does not necessarily need to get information solely from Dr. Fauci, especially when directly engaged in talks with Chinese officials over trade dating back to the end of 2019. Geezus you truly are clueless. You have know idea how government actually works. Pathetic. Stop posting. Listen to the Woodward tapes and buy yourself a clue. You are highly uneducated.  Again Fat Donnie is on tape in early Feb. 2020 discussing how serious COVID-19 was, a full month before Fauci said anything about masks.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: So let me get this straight, Trump knew how dangerous Covid was well before the leading authority on infectious disease?  Trump downplayed the severity of the virus so that there wasnt a mass panic and that was horrible.  Fauci downplayed the severity so there wasnt mass panic but "meh, I can see why".    Trump gets his information from the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (FAUCI) but somehow knew more about Covid than the director?  But Trump is also stupid.   Did I get that right? You need to repeat your government or political science classes clearly. You realize it is perfectly plausible that Fat Donnie had information before Dr. Fauci right? This is because the President is the Chief Executive, Head of State, and in charge of foreign policy ,which means it is entirely likely he was speaking to the Chinese President at the onset of the outbreak, especially considering the two countries were actively involved in trade negotiations. You don't think COVID-19 came up in discussions between the two countries long before Dr. Fauci had access to information? Trump does not necessarily need to get information solely from Dr. Fauci, especially when directly engaged in talks with Chinese officials over trade dating back to the end of 2019. Geezus you truly are clueless. You have know idea how government actually works. Pathetic. Stop posting. Listen to the Woodward tapes and buy yourself a clue. You are highly uneducated.  Again Fat Donnie is on tape in early Feb. 2020 discussing how serious COVID-19 was, a full month before Fauci said anything about masks.

     

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:07 PM ET #185

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    gamble, read what I said...and yes you do fall into this grouping. Look at your post history it is right there, plain and easy to see. You do not just openly admit that you support the platform and are against the candidate. If I were voting based on my personal platform (which I do not do) I would be open and willing to admit that the candidate does not matter and yes he is a big pile of crap but the platform is more important and that you are against the other platform. See that is OK...at least you call a spade a spade, not what you and others do which is minimize and rationalize one of the WORST political figures to ever come to the dance. Not that my respect means anything but to ignore really awful disgusting behavior and act like it is not there or not important is as bad as the other political party you despise. And I never see that here...and I rarely see this. I think people feel like they must agree and find value with the candidate if they are going to vote for them and if they admit that the candidate is a louse then that would mean they cannot vote for that person...which is TRUE to an extent but the core voter on either side will party vote and thus try to shelter their candidate. Circus was one of the only who sort of admitted what a total schmuck Trump is but even then he has to quickly run and hide to rationalize by putting down the other party or deflect. In the end both of these two are awful...same with last round. The issue is party leaders are forwarding really really brutal people. Sanders deserved to be in this spot, if the candidates dropping had even moderately split their parts between he and Biden then Sanders is here....not saying Sanders is great but he is better than Biden even with his wack far left views.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    gamble, read what I said...and yes you do fall into this grouping. Look at your post history it is right there, plain and easy to see. You do not just openly admit that you support the platform and are against the candidate. If I were voting based on my personal platform (which I do not do) I would be open and willing to admit that the candidate does not matter and yes he is a big pile of crap but the platform is more important and that you are against the other platform. See that is OK...at least you call a spade a spade, not what you and others do which is minimize and rationalize one of the WORST political figures to ever come to the dance. Not that my respect means anything but to ignore really awful disgusting behavior and act like it is not there or not important is as bad as the other political party you despise. And I never see that here...and I rarely see this. I think people feel like they must agree and find value with the candidate if they are going to vote for them and if they admit that the candidate is a louse then that would mean they cannot vote for that person...which is TRUE to an extent but the core voter on either side will party vote and thus try to shelter their candidate. Circus was one of the only who sort of admitted what a total schmuck Trump is but even then he has to quickly run and hide to rationalize by putting down the other party or deflect. In the end both of these two are awful...same with last round. The issue is party leaders are forwarding really really brutal people. Sanders deserved to be in this spot, if the candidates dropping had even moderately split their parts between he and Biden then Sanders is here....not saying Sanders is great but he is better than Biden even with his wack far left views.

     

    very well said  thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:09 PM ET #186

    I’m black and he hasn’t done sh*t for me or my community

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    I’m black and he hasn’t done sh*t for me or my community

     
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    WSC--

    My word...how many times do I need to repeat myself? Lets just go back to how it was before, you go your path and I will go mine. I am not interested if Trump thinks he has done more except Lincoln...it is too subjective and stupid to even consider. Last time...WHO SAYS STUPID THINGS LIKE THIS. That was my point....and then I said who believes a single word out of his trap...and I explained that 5 times. Someone that has a nervous twitch like Trump does and throws out the terms he does, I cant believe a word he says...its garbage.  (This doesn't even make sense.  Since you cannot disprove what he said with facts -- you attack his perceived physical twitch?!  It is only stupid in your opinion because you do not want to believe it and cannot disprove it.)

    This is not about if this is provable or if YOU think it is because it is subjective, a waste of time to consider and absurd at best. (Huh?! If it is not provable, does that make the converse not provable?  Then why even attack the man's statement?)

    I dont need you to COPY AND PASTE ten pages of rah rah Trump...I am not concerned with your attempts to prove a point....because THAT IS NOT THE POINT.  (Not rah rah -- simple economic facts -- which are provable.  Therefore, it would easy to disprove -- you simply cannot disprove it is all, no biggie.)

    Look -- you guys keep calling him names, including being a racist.  Then when he is asked about it and replies with this statement -- you say it cannot be proved. Likewise, accusing him of being a racist, etc. cannot be proved wither.  If that is the logic you want to use. 

    Trust me -- IF you could disprove it you would do it and be gleeful while doing it.

    You were just on the wrong side of this issue -- yet again. 

    I stand by my proven facts that Trump has done more for us than any other president in history.  Like it or not, he has done more for you as well.

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    WSC--

    My word...how many times do I need to repeat myself? Lets just go back to how it was before, you go your path and I will go mine. I am not interested if Trump thinks he has done more except Lincoln...it is too subjective and stupid to even consider. Last time...WHO SAYS STUPID THINGS LIKE THIS. That was my point....and then I said who believes a single word out of his trap...and I explained that 5 times. Someone that has a nervous twitch like Trump does and throws out the terms he does, I cant believe a word he says...its garbage.  (This doesn't even make sense.  Since you cannot disprove what he said with facts -- you attack his perceived physical twitch?!  It is only stupid in your opinion because you do not want to believe it and cannot disprove it.)

    This is not about if this is provable or if YOU think it is because it is subjective, a waste of time to consider and absurd at best. (Huh?! If it is not provable, does that make the converse not provable?  Then why even attack the man's statement?)

    I dont need you to COPY AND PASTE ten pages of rah rah Trump...I am not concerned with your attempts to prove a point....because THAT IS NOT THE POINT.  (Not rah rah -- simple economic facts -- which are provable.  Therefore, it would easy to disprove -- you simply cannot disprove it is all, no biggie.)

    Look -- you guys keep calling him names, including being a racist.  Then when he is asked about it and replies with this statement -- you say it cannot be proved. Likewise, accusing him of being a racist, etc. cannot be proved wither.  If that is the logic you want to use. 

    Trust me -- IF you could disprove it you would do it and be gleeful while doing it.

    You were just on the wrong side of this issue -- yet again. 

    I stand by my proven facts that Trump has done more for us than any other president in history.  Like it or not, he has done more for you as well.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:18 PM ET #188

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    I stand by my proven facts that Trump has done more for us than any other president in history.  Like it or not, he has done more for you as well.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    I stand by my proven facts that Trump has done more for us than any other president in history.  Like it or not, he has done more for you as well.

     

           omg confused

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:23 PM ET #189

    Quote Originally Posted by ICEOG:

    I’m black and he hasn’t done sh*t for me or my community

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICEOG:

    I’m black and he hasn’t done sh*t for me or my community

     

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:31 PM ET #190

    NYT reporting on Trump-China dealings: "Pres. Trump took nearly $25 million cash from sources linked to China and the Chinese government including a previously secret Chinese bank account just in the first year he was in office as president."

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    NYT reporting on Trump-China dealings: "Pres. Trump took nearly $25 million cash from sources linked to China and the Chinese government including a previously secret Chinese bank account just in the first year he was in office as president."

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:35 PM ET #192

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    First to WSC. Why group me in your statements as a part of some flawed segment of society? You are simply incorrect. You do not know me nor how I think.  I vote on the issues. 1. I am not for the Green New Deal. Just because we need to install 5000 charging stations nationwide for electric cars, doesn't mean you have to start tearing down buildings and building from the ground up. AOC would do her best to get all 100T for her baby, which would be the most wasteful spending bill in the history of mankind.  2. I am for INCREASING FUNDING for our police so that they have the money for proper training and council. The left want's to re-appropriate funding. That's a bad thing.  3. You don't raise taxes coming out of a recession/pandemic. That's economics 101.  4. Biden has already said he will form a 180 day committee to evaluate the constitutional opportunity for packing the court. The Democrats would pack the court.  I could go on and on, but there are very real issues at stake. The right focuses on these issues.  The left focuses on their hatred of Trump.

    So no answer on where you stand on these issues WSC?

    How about the rest of you? 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    First to WSC. Why group me in your statements as a part of some flawed segment of society? You are simply incorrect. You do not know me nor how I think.  I vote on the issues. 1. I am not for the Green New Deal. Just because we need to install 5000 charging stations nationwide for electric cars, doesn't mean you have to start tearing down buildings and building from the ground up. AOC would do her best to get all 100T for her baby, which would be the most wasteful spending bill in the history of mankind.  2. I am for INCREASING FUNDING for our police so that they have the money for proper training and council. The left want's to re-appropriate funding. That's a bad thing.  3. You don't raise taxes coming out of a recession/pandemic. That's economics 101.  4. Biden has already said he will form a 180 day committee to evaluate the constitutional opportunity for packing the court. The Democrats would pack the court.  I could go on and on, but there are very real issues at stake. The right focuses on these issues.  The left focuses on their hatred of Trump.

    So no answer on where you stand on these issues WSC?

    How about the rest of you? 

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2020 - 11:36 PM ET #193

    The campaign of Donald Trump is turning into a hotbed of “paranoia and finger-pointing” as aides to the president are resigning themselves to the fact that re-election is out of reach and now everyone is looking for fall-guys to pin the blame on.

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    The campaign of Donald Trump is turning into a hotbed of “paranoia and finger-pointing” as aides to the president are resigning themselves to the fact that re-election is out of reach and now everyone is looking for fall-guys to pin the blame on.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    NYT reporting on Trump-China dealings: "Pres. Trump took nearly $25 million cash from sources linked to China and the Chinese government including a previously secret Chinese bank account just in the first year he was in office as president."

     

    yup     doesnt surprise in the least     he points fingers at biden and screams witch   but the witch is rump himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    NYT reporting on Trump-China dealings: "Pres. Trump took nearly $25 million cash from sources linked to China and the Chinese government including a previously secret Chinese bank account just in the first year he was in office as president."

     

    yup     doesnt surprise in the least     he points fingers at biden and screams witch   but the witch is rump himself

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

      an_getaway

      ill join u     an_getaway

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: First to WSC. Why group me in your statements as a part of some flawed segment of society? You are simply incorrect. You do not know me nor how I think.  I vote on the issues. 1. I am not for the Green New Deal. Just because we need to install 5000 charging stations nationwide for electric cars, doesn't mean you have to start tearing down buildings and building from the ground up. AOC would do her best to get all 100T for her baby, which would be the most wasteful spending bill in the history of mankind.  2. I am for INCREASING FUNDING for our police so that they have the money for proper training and council. The left want's to re-appropriate funding. That's a bad thing.  3. You don't raise taxes coming out of a recession/pandemic. That's economics 101.  4. Biden has already said he will form a 180 day committee to evaluate the constitutional opportunity for packing the court. The Democrats would pack the court.  I could go on and on, but there are very real issues at stake. The right focuses on these issues.  The left focuses on their hatred of Trump. So no answer on where you stand on these issues WSC? How about the rest of you?
    You have zero chance of getting an intelligent response.ZERO- They won't discuss policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: First to WSC. Why group me in your statements as a part of some flawed segment of society? You are simply incorrect. You do not know me nor how I think.  I vote on the issues. 1. I am not for the Green New Deal. Just because we need to install 5000 charging stations nationwide for electric cars, doesn't mean you have to start tearing down buildings and building from the ground up. AOC would do her best to get all 100T for her baby, which would be the most wasteful spending bill in the history of mankind.  2. I am for INCREASING FUNDING for our police so that they have the money for proper training and council. The left want's to re-appropriate funding. That's a bad thing.  3. You don't raise taxes coming out of a recession/pandemic. That's economics 101.  4. Biden has already said he will form a 180 day committee to evaluate the constitutional opportunity for packing the court. The Democrats would pack the court.  I could go on and on, but there are very real issues at stake. The right focuses on these issues.  The left focuses on their hatred of Trump. So no answer on where you stand on these issues WSC? How about the rest of you?
    You have zero chance of getting an intelligent response.ZERO- They won't discuss policies.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 9:35 AM ET #197

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    The campaign of Donald Trump is turning into a hotbed of “paranoia and finger-pointing” as aides to the president are resigning themselves to the fact that re-election is out of reach and now everyone is looking for fall-guys to pin the blame on.

    Seriously, when are you guys going to learn?  You run with any little tidbit that makes Trump look bad without waiting for a single shred of evidence.  They NYT has been wrong so many times, yet you immediately believe them, no questions asked.  Its sad.  Bro, they make you look stupid with their outrage of the week, do yourself a favor and just wait for facts, I know you wont because your confirmation bias is too strong.  Look how stupid Ditzy81 looks running with the Rudy G is a pedophile story last week.  He was on here ranting like a mad man because he saw one freeze frame.   Turns out the actress was 24 years old and Rudy was tucking in his shirt.  Ditzy looks stupid for a lot of things he says, but he could have avoided this one just by waiting a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    The campaign of Donald Trump is turning into a hotbed of “paranoia and finger-pointing” as aides to the president are resigning themselves to the fact that re-election is out of reach and now everyone is looking for fall-guys to pin the blame on.

    Seriously, when are you guys going to learn?  You run with any little tidbit that makes Trump look bad without waiting for a single shred of evidence.  They NYT has been wrong so many times, yet you immediately believe them, no questions asked.  Its sad.  Bro, they make you look stupid with their outrage of the week, do yourself a favor and just wait for facts, I know you wont because your confirmation bias is too strong.  Look how stupid Ditzy81 looks running with the Rudy G is a pedophile story last week.  He was on here ranting like a mad man because he saw one freeze frame.   Turns out the actress was 24 years old and Rudy was tucking in his shirt.  Ditzy looks stupid for a lot of things he says, but he could have avoided this one just by waiting a few days.

     
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    Yes gamble dont hold your breath, they dont want to talk specifics they just want to spew hate and speak in hyperbole.  When you prove their hypocrisy they dont address it.  I know its been said a million times but they really do accuse the other side of what they do.  It can only lead you to believe that their pure hatred for a guy outweighs what is best for this country.  There is so much hate in the Love Trumps Hate crowd.  There is absolutely no tolerance with the tolerant left.  They love diversity as long as you dont have any diversity of thought.  Here is a conversation we have all had:

    Why do you hate Trump so much?

    "Trumps a racist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here is a dozen examples of Bidens racism"  *ignores it moves to the next topic*

    "Trump is corrupt"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are some examples of Bidens corruption"  *ignores it moves to the next topic*

    "Trump is a rapist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are several women that have accused Biden"  *ignores it moves to next topic*

    "You are a racist/fascist/nazi for supporting Trump!"

    So why do they hate Trump so much?  Everything they say they hate about him can be found in their candidate.  It has to do with the media.  We have seen several examples (on here and IRL) of how quickly the left believes the lying media without ever questioning it.  CNN, NYT and other outlets have been caught blatently lying to Americans countless times in the last few years, but the left is programmed to still eat up every morsel without ever questioning it.   I, like many on the right are reserving judgement on the laptop contents, many things are being said but I will wait for actual proof and evidence, we have been lied to too many times to just jump on the accusations without any proof.

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    Yes gamble dont hold your breath, they dont want to talk specifics they just want to spew hate and speak in hyperbole.  When you prove their hypocrisy they dont address it.  I know its been said a million times but they really do accuse the other side of what they do.  It can only lead you to believe that their pure hatred for a guy outweighs what is best for this country.  There is so much hate in the Love Trumps Hate crowd.  There is absolutely no tolerance with the tolerant left.  They love diversity as long as you dont have any diversity of thought.  Here is a conversation we have all had:

    Why do you hate Trump so much?

    "Trumps a racist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here is a dozen examples of Bidens racism"  *ignores it moves to the next topic*

    "Trump is corrupt"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are some examples of Bidens corruption"  *ignores it moves to the next topic*

    "Trump is a rapist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are several women that have accused Biden"  *ignores it moves to next topic*

    "You are a racist/fascist/nazi for supporting Trump!"

    So why do they hate Trump so much?  Everything they say they hate about him can be found in their candidate.  It has to do with the media.  We have seen several examples (on here and IRL) of how quickly the left believes the lying media without ever questioning it.  CNN, NYT and other outlets have been caught blatently lying to Americans countless times in the last few years, but the left is programmed to still eat up every morsel without ever questioning it.   I, like many on the right are reserving judgement on the laptop contents, many things are being said but I will wait for actual proof and evidence, we have been lied to too many times to just jump on the accusations without any proof.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 10:50 AM ET #199

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear:

    Yes gamble dont hold your breath, they dont want to talk specifics they just want to spew hate and speak in hyperbole.  When you prove their hypocrisy they dont address it.  I know its been said a million times but they really do accuse the other side of what they do.  It can only lead you to believe that their pure hatred for a guy outweighs what is best for this country.  There is so much hate in the Love Trumps Hate crowd.  There is absolutely no tolerance with the tolerant left.  They love diversity as long as you dont have any diversity of thought.  Here is a conversation we have all had: Why do you hate Trump so much? "Trumps a racist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here is a dozen examples of Bidens racism"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is corrupt"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are some examples of Bidens corruption"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is a rapist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are several women that have accused Biden"  *ignores it moves to next topic* "You are a racist/fascist/nazi for supporting Trump!" So why do they hate Trump so much?  Everything they say they hate about him can be found in their candidate.  It has to do with the media.  We have seen several examples (on here and IRL) of how quickly the left believes the lying media without ever questioning it.  CNN, NYT and other outlets have been caught blatently lying to Americans countless times in the last few years, but the left is programmed to still eat up every morsel without ever questioning it.   I, like many on the right are reserving judgement on the laptop contents, many things are being said but I will wait for actual proof and evidence, we have been lied to too many times to just jump on the accusations without any proof.
    Roger that - You hit on the head - We will wait for additional details but the posse will dismiss - They don't care about their candidate who MAY BE

    one of the most corrupt politicians EVER. And I said maybe - we shall see. Point being, you haters don't care if he is -astonishing!!!!!!!!!!! can you address Biden situation without mentioning trump???????????? I say no way - prove  me wrong Posse. 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear:

    Yes gamble dont hold your breath, they dont want to talk specifics they just want to spew hate and speak in hyperbole.  When you prove their hypocrisy they dont address it.  I know its been said a million times but they really do accuse the other side of what they do.  It can only lead you to believe that their pure hatred for a guy outweighs what is best for this country.  There is so much hate in the Love Trumps Hate crowd.  There is absolutely no tolerance with the tolerant left.  They love diversity as long as you dont have any diversity of thought.  Here is a conversation we have all had: Why do you hate Trump so much? "Trumps a racist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here is a dozen examples of Bidens racism"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is corrupt"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are some examples of Bidens corruption"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is a rapist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are several women that have accused Biden"  *ignores it moves to next topic* "You are a racist/fascist/nazi for supporting Trump!" So why do they hate Trump so much?  Everything they say they hate about him can be found in their candidate.  It has to do with the media.  We have seen several examples (on here and IRL) of how quickly the left believes the lying media without ever questioning it.  CNN, NYT and other outlets have been caught blatently lying to Americans countless times in the last few years, but the left is programmed to still eat up every morsel without ever questioning it.   I, like many on the right are reserving judgement on the laptop contents, many things are being said but I will wait for actual proof and evidence, we have been lied to too many times to just jump on the accusations without any proof.
    Roger that - You hit on the head - We will wait for additional details but the posse will dismiss - They don't care about their candidate who MAY BE

    one of the most corrupt politicians EVER. And I said maybe - we shall see. Point being, you haters don't care if he is -astonishing!!!!!!!!!!! can you address Biden situation without mentioning trump???????????? I say no way - prove  me wrong Posse. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Yes gamble dont hold your breath, they dont want to talk specifics they just want to spew hate and speak in hyperbole.  When you prove their hypocrisy they dont address it.  I know its been said a million times but they really do accuse the other side of what they do.  It can only lead you to believe that their pure hatred for a guy outweighs what is best for this country.  There is so much hate in the Love Trumps Hate crowd.  There is absolutely no tolerance with the tolerant left.  They love diversity as long as you dont have any diversity of thought.  Here is a conversation we have all had: Why do you hate Trump so much? "Trumps a racist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here is a dozen examples of Bidens racism"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is corrupt"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are some examples of Bidens corruption"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is a rapist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are several women that have accused Biden"  *ignores it moves to next topic* "You are a racist/fascist/nazi for supporting Trump!" So why do they hate Trump so much?  Everything they say they hate about him can be found in their candidate.  It has to do with the media.  We have seen several examples (on here and IRL) of how quickly the left believes the lying media without ever questioning it.  CNN, NYT and other outlets have been caught blatently lying to Americans countless times in the last few years, but the left is programmed to still eat up every morsel without ever questioning it.   I, like many on the right are reserving judgement on the laptop contents, many things are being said but I will wait for actual proof and evidence, we have been lied to too many times to just jump on the accusations without any proof.Roger that - You hit on the head - We will wait for additional details but the posse will dismiss - They don't care about their candidate who MAY BE one of the most corrupt politicians EVER. And I said maybe - we shall see. Point being, you haters don't care if he is -astonishing!!!!!!!!!!! can you address Biden situation without mentioning trump???????????? I say no way - prove  me wrong Posse.

     

    ***crickets***

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    Quote Originally Posted by uncoolbear: Yes gamble dont hold your breath, they dont want to talk specifics they just want to spew hate and speak in hyperbole.  When you prove their hypocrisy they dont address it.  I know its been said a million times but they really do accuse the other side of what they do.  It can only lead you to believe that their pure hatred for a guy outweighs what is best for this country.  There is so much hate in the Love Trumps Hate crowd.  There is absolutely no tolerance with the tolerant left.  They love diversity as long as you dont have any diversity of thought.  Here is a conversation we have all had: Why do you hate Trump so much? "Trumps a racist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here is a dozen examples of Bidens racism"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is corrupt"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are some examples of Bidens corruption"  *ignores it moves to the next topic* "Trump is a rapist!"  "Okay, since that is important to you, here are several women that have accused Biden"  *ignores it moves to next topic* "You are a racist/fascist/nazi for supporting Trump!" So why do they hate Trump so much?  Everything they say they hate about him can be found in their candidate.  It has to do with the media.  We have seen several examples (on here and IRL) of how quickly the left believes the lying media without ever questioning it.  CNN, NYT and other outlets have been caught blatently lying to Americans countless times in the last few years, but the left is programmed to still eat up every morsel without ever questioning it.   I, like many on the right are reserving judgement on the laptop contents, many things are being said but I will wait for actual proof and evidence, we have been lied to too many times to just jump on the accusations without any proof.Roger that - You hit on the head - We will wait for additional details but the posse will dismiss - They don't care about their candidate who MAY BE one of the most corrupt politicians EVER. And I said maybe - we shall see. Point being, you haters don't care if he is -astonishing!!!!!!!!!!! can you address Biden situation without mentioning trump???????????? I say no way - prove  me wrong Posse.

     

    ***crickets***

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