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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 9:37 PM ET #26

    Misleading to link crime rate with political party in cities according to FBI and Center for evidence based crime policy.    For decades, big cities naturally tend to have more democrat voters and more crimes than rural areas.  But this is correlation without evidence of causality.  Local socioeconomic factors play a bigger role in crime than voting by majority.  Crime stems from a small percentage of population and geography in a city.    Facebook has flagged as misinformation claims that most violent cities are run by democrats.  Fact checkers politifact and USAtoday also rated such claims false.

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    Misleading to link crime rate with political party in cities according to FBI and Center for evidence based crime policy.    For decades, big cities naturally tend to have more democrat voters and more crimes than rural areas.  But this is correlation without evidence of causality.  Local socioeconomic factors play a bigger role in crime than voting by majority.  Crime stems from a small percentage of population and geography in a city.    Facebook has flagged as misinformation claims that most violent cities are run by democrats.  Fact checkers politifact and USAtoday also rated such claims false.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 9:46 PM ET #27

    Democrat liberal cheerleader fact checkers are you serious. Having a well supported police force vs having a defund the police mentality will result in more or less crime. Pretty simple. R u saying that “most violent cities” are not run by democrats
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    Democrat liberal cheerleader fact checkers are you serious. Having a well supported police force vs having a defund the police mentality will result in more or less crime. Pretty simple. R u saying that “most violent cities” are not run by democrats
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 9:46 PM ET #28

    Defund the Police, Bail Reform, early release because of COVID. Allowing looting, allowing violence, etc.

    What could go wrong???

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    Defund the Police, Bail Reform, early release because of COVID. Allowing looting, allowing violence, etc.

    What could go wrong???

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 9:46 PM ET #29

    Facebook deleted Hunter Biden laptop story, anyone who questions the vaccine, lab origin theory. So why not this too.

    Politifact falsely said Chinese defected scientist's claim virus came from lab and the then recently retracted. Washington Post's factchecker Kessler, falsely gave Trump 4 pino's for bounty on military in Afganistan and said in March he would NOT fact check Biden.

    These folks have NO credibility. Period.

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    Facebook deleted Hunter Biden laptop story, anyone who questions the vaccine, lab origin theory. So why not this too.

    Politifact falsely said Chinese defected scientist's claim virus came from lab and the then recently retracted. Washington Post's factchecker Kessler, falsely gave Trump 4 pino's for bounty on military in Afganistan and said in March he would NOT fact check Biden.

    These folks have NO credibility. Period.

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 9:57 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Misleading to link crime rate with political party in cities according to FBI and Center for evidence based crime policy.    For decades, big cities naturally tend to have more democrat voters and more crimes than rural areas.  But this is correlation without evidence of causality.  Local socioeconomic factors play a bigger role in crime than voting by majority.  Crime stems from a small percentage of population and geography in a city.    Facebook has flagged as misinformation claims that most violent cities are run by democrats.  Fact checkers politifact and USAtoday also rated such claims false.

    It’s a fact that most violent cities are run by Democrats. 

    How is a fact misinformation? 

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Misleading to link crime rate with political party in cities according to FBI and Center for evidence based crime policy.    For decades, big cities naturally tend to have more democrat voters and more crimes than rural areas.  But this is correlation without evidence of causality.  Local socioeconomic factors play a bigger role in crime than voting by majority.  Crime stems from a small percentage of population and geography in a city.    Facebook has flagged as misinformation claims that most violent cities are run by democrats.  Fact checkers politifact and USAtoday also rated such claims false.

    It’s a fact that most violent cities are run by Democrats. 

    How is a fact misinformation? 

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 10:10 PM ET #31

    Just shows u how corrupt the media is and how scary. These are facts Most violent cities in America as of 2020 Balt Springfield Memphis Detroit St. Louis. All except Springfield , which has an Indt, have been run almost exclusively by Dems since the 60s . Now if you want to argue that it’s more difficult to keep crime down in big cities ok, but to say it’s factually incorrect is liberal trash. Put some1 with a strong emphasis on holding people accountable for their actions then we will talk. Until then, these democrat run cities should be held accountable for this failure
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    Just shows u how corrupt the media is and how scary. These are facts Most violent cities in America as of 2020 Balt Springfield Memphis Detroit St. Louis. All except Springfield , which has an Indt, have been run almost exclusively by Dems since the 60s . Now if you want to argue that it’s more difficult to keep crime down in big cities ok, but to say it’s factually incorrect is liberal trash. Put some1 with a strong emphasis on holding people accountable for their actions then we will talk. Until then, these democrat run cities should be held accountable for this failure
     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 10:24 PM ET #32

    Hunter's laptop?????

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    Cancel culture???

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    If you really cared about the murder rate, you would be promoting gun reform/safety. The flag has been lowered 5 times already by Joe because of mass shootings this year. Maybe when the violence hits home it will allow the blind to see.

    And the defund group is as wacked out as all the conspiracy groups on the far right.  

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    Hunter's laptop?????

    an_roll_laugh

    Cancel culture???

    an_roll_laugh

    If you really cared about the murder rate, you would be promoting gun reform/safety. The flag has been lowered 5 times already by Joe because of mass shootings this year. Maybe when the violence hits home it will allow the blind to see.

    And the defund group is as wacked out as all the conspiracy groups on the far right.  

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 10:32 PM ET #33

    Nearly all gun violence is from people in illegal possession of a firearm.

    What is “gun reform/safety” going to accomplish?

    Obviously nothing. The most deadly cities in America all have strict gun laws. 

    Increase the penalty for people found in illegal possession of a gun. Democrats won’t do that because Democrats fight for criminals. 

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    Nearly all gun violence is from people in illegal possession of a firearm.

    What is “gun reform/safety” going to accomplish?

    Obviously nothing. The most deadly cities in America all have strict gun laws. 

    Increase the penalty for people found in illegal possession of a gun. Democrats won’t do that because Democrats fight for criminals. 

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 10:33 PM ET #34

    It’s amazing how Democrats just spew the propaganda from the nightly news 

    sleep2

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    It’s amazing how Democrats just spew the propaganda from the nightly news 

    sleep2

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2021 - 10:38 PM ET #35

    Mass shootings are a completely different issue then violent crime in the cities. Things could certainly be done to address mass shooting issue but has little to do w the democratic run cities being antagonistic toward police
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    Mass shootings are a completely different issue then violent crime in the cities. Things could certainly be done to address mass shooting issue but has little to do w the democratic run cities being antagonistic toward police
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2021 - 10:50 AM ET #36

    Let's get real about murder....

    None of you and I'll include myself cares if crackhead Tommy One Tooth offs Nicky One Nut. In fact, thy are doing society a favor. That goes for the gang members as well

    The murders that impact us all is when a merchant is shot while protecting his store or some 10 year old finds daddy's gun that isn't secured & kills his 8 year old playmate. Or it's the driver who won't give up their auto in a carjacking or some peckerhead shooting at cars on a freeway from some hidden hillside. Or some teenager who can't get a date for the prom. 

    You want to have 5 guns in your home, fine with me but you better have them secured from anyone else using them or you spend time in jail. Do you really need multiple magazines loaded with bullets? Is your dick really that small or is your aim God awful?  

    You want to blame Democrats go ahead. Just know that a murder is waiting in your neighborhood ready to take place. No community can prevent it from happening. 

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    Let's get real about murder....

    None of you and I'll include myself cares if crackhead Tommy One Tooth offs Nicky One Nut. In fact, thy are doing society a favor. That goes for the gang members as well

    The murders that impact us all is when a merchant is shot while protecting his store or some 10 year old finds daddy's gun that isn't secured & kills his 8 year old playmate. Or it's the driver who won't give up their auto in a carjacking or some peckerhead shooting at cars on a freeway from some hidden hillside. Or some teenager who can't get a date for the prom. 

    You want to have 5 guns in your home, fine with me but you better have them secured from anyone else using them or you spend time in jail. Do you really need multiple magazines loaded with bullets? Is your dick really that small or is your aim God awful?  

    You want to blame Democrats go ahead. Just know that a murder is waiting in your neighborhood ready to take place. No community can prevent it from happening. 

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2021 - 11:15 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Democrat liberal cheerleader fact checkers are you serious. Having a well supported police force vs having a defund the police mentality will result in more or less crime. Pretty simple. R u saying that “most violent cities” are not run by democrats
    why make more laws?

    Why not rescind the laws to that only capital crime needs investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Democrat liberal cheerleader fact checkers are you serious. Having a well supported police force vs having a defund the police mentality will result in more or less crime. Pretty simple. R u saying that “most violent cities” are not run by democrats
    why make more laws?

    Why not rescind the laws to that only capital crime needs investigation.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2021 - 11:24 AM ET #38

    Let's get real.

    Your marginalizing at this point

    80 percent of the population .

    80 percent is the majority of Americans who did not graduate from college wirh a bs degree in america.

    Created a soicity that 30npercent of America rules over 80 percent of America. You take an individual from their homes raise them in a corrupt gross a distance and then take their children and do the same.

    That side of the fence is growing and your side of the fence is becoming that side of the fence with newbie generations of a distance from the trash of fine families ,

    Each abuse it cataclysmic results that expand.

    Maybe another 100 years of urban war and the future can catch the initial failure in a aghasted systems of technical abuse .

    Cause this gen is in the fight and we cant even discuss in polite soicity the systematic failures in correctional and foster care systems.

     

     

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    Let's get real.

    Your marginalizing at this point

    80 percent of the population .

    80 percent is the majority of Americans who did not graduate from college wirh a bs degree in america.

    Created a soicity that 30npercent of America rules over 80 percent of America. You take an individual from their homes raise them in a corrupt gross a distance and then take their children and do the same.

    That side of the fence is growing and your side of the fence is becoming that side of the fence with newbie generations of a distance from the trash of fine families ,

    Each abuse it cataclysmic results that expand.

    Maybe another 100 years of urban war and the future can catch the initial failure in a aghasted systems of technical abuse .

    Cause this gen is in the fight and we cant even discuss in polite soicity the systematic failures in correctional and foster care systems.

     

     

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