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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 1:59 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Cameron, was endorsed by the indicted mob boss of the trump crime family.

    As in previous midterm elections, candidates endorsed by Trump tend to lose.  Unlike polls, democrats seem to be doing better than expected in elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Cameron, was endorsed by the indicted mob boss of the trump crime family.

    As in previous midterm elections, candidates endorsed by Trump tend to lose.  Unlike polls, democrats seem to be doing better than expected in elections.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 11:53 AM ET #102

    The inability of the GOP to modify stance on abortion rights will be their ultimate downfall in certain State election battles and very likely POTUS (if anyone other than Trump)... 

    Politics is a give & take relationship and not being able to cede something in the abortion battle, such as exceptions for rape / incest / etc. and / or limit on any abortion post 1st term proposals are DOA in the National scheme.  Voters overlook this topic when it comes to Trump (abortion slides under the radar with him due to other focuses) but if he is not able to run 2024 and you get a Ronnie D as the nominee I will almost guarantee he'll go down as the DNC will make his stance on abortion front and center to hit hard on the voting public.  If / when Newsome is announced needs to be on everyone's radar as DNC strategists are already planting the seeds in the minds of the public that Biden should step down from the 2024 race.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    The inability of the GOP to modify stance on abortion rights will be their ultimate downfall in certain State election battles and very likely POTUS (if anyone other than Trump)... 

    Politics is a give & take relationship and not being able to cede something in the abortion battle, such as exceptions for rape / incest / etc. and / or limit on any abortion post 1st term proposals are DOA in the National scheme.  Voters overlook this topic when it comes to Trump (abortion slides under the radar with him due to other focuses) but if he is not able to run 2024 and you get a Ronnie D as the nominee I will almost guarantee he'll go down as the DNC will make his stance on abortion front and center to hit hard on the voting public.  If / when Newsome is announced needs to be on everyone's radar as DNC strategists are already planting the seeds in the minds of the public that Biden should step down from the 2024 race.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 11:55 AM ET #103

    Recent election results are another perfect example of "what has the GOP done to make anyone think 2024 elections will be any different that 2020?"  

    The answer is "nothing".  They are operating on a hope & a prayer.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Recent election results are another perfect example of "what has the GOP done to make anyone think 2024 elections will be any different that 2020?"  

    The answer is "nothing".  They are operating on a hope & a prayer.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 1:19 PM ET #104

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     Nah. I do not think it matters the much at all.  The Media and the Left want it to matter very much though.  Currently it is way down the list of voter concerns.

    Politics may be a matter of gives and takes, BUT it is always the Right that is always made to 'compromise'.  The Left is never asked to 'compromise'.

    Some issues at their core are binary and really cannot be 'compromised' on.

    The real big issues that are concerning to voters -- like the economy, healthcare, inflation, environment and immigration -- are issues that can be manipulated enough to see a give and take or 'compromising'.

    Some issues the politicians should realize they need to concentrate on and others they should be less concerned with. peace_5

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     Nah. I do not think it matters the much at all.  The Media and the Left want it to matter very much though.  Currently it is way down the list of voter concerns.

    Politics may be a matter of gives and takes, BUT it is always the Right that is always made to 'compromise'.  The Left is never asked to 'compromise'.

    Some issues at their core are binary and really cannot be 'compromised' on.

    The real big issues that are concerning to voters -- like the economy, healthcare, inflation, environment and immigration -- are issues that can be manipulated enough to see a give and take or 'compromising'.

    Some issues the politicians should realize they need to concentrate on and others they should be less concerned with. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 1:21 PM ET #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Recent election results are another perfect example of "what has the GOP done to make anyone think 2024 elections will be any different that 2020?"   The answer is "nothing".  They are operating on a hope & a prayer.

    Correct.  Hoping the economy and crime and inflation and illegals get bad enough to win an election is a losing campaign message.

    They need to get out and promote a positive message with solid plans.  

    More promoting and less blaming is needed. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Recent election results are another perfect example of "what has the GOP done to make anyone think 2024 elections will be any different that 2020?"   The answer is "nothing".  They are operating on a hope & a prayer.

    Correct.  Hoping the economy and crime and inflation and illegals get bad enough to win an election is a losing campaign message.

    They need to get out and promote a positive message with solid plans.  

    More promoting and less blaming is needed. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 1:43 PM ET #106

    @Raiders22  peace_5

     The big question is what does the Left have in store for the Summer of 2024 ??   Messaging from GOP may take a turn as you say as things near next Fall but just as we saw in the mostly peaceful summer of 2020, there will be a media / social distraction brought on by the radicals leading up to November.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @Raiders22  peace_5

     The big question is what does the Left have in store for the Summer of 2024 ??   Messaging from GOP may take a turn as you say as things near next Fall but just as we saw in the mostly peaceful summer of 2020, there will be a media / social distraction brought on by the radicals leading up to November.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 2:14 PM ET #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Raiders22    The big question is what does the Left have in store for the Summer of 2024 ??   Messaging from GOP may take a turn as you say as things near next Fall but just as we saw in the mostly peaceful summer of 2020, there will be a media / social distraction brought on by the radicals leading up to November.

    an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Raiders22    The big question is what does the Left have in store for the Summer of 2024 ??   Messaging from GOP may take a turn as you say as things near next Fall but just as we saw in the mostly peaceful summer of 2020, there will be a media / social distraction brought on by the radicals leading up to November.

    an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 2:34 PM ET #108

    Republican Christie warns anyone who is overconfident about beating Biden in 2024 election is a fool.  He blames Trump for disastrous run in elections.  Biden always seem to be under estimated?  Many voters vote for party regardless of candidate.    Public polls one year away from election might be meaningless.  The only polls that really count are elections.

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    Republican Christie warns anyone who is overconfident about beating Biden in 2024 election is a fool.  He blames Trump for disastrous run in elections.  Biden always seem to be under estimated?  Many voters vote for party regardless of candidate.    Public polls one year away from election might be meaningless.  The only polls that really count are elections.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 3:07 PM ET #109

    I am not sure Christie is credible enough to quote on anything at this point. peace_5

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    I am not sure Christie is credible enough to quote on anything at this point. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 3:07 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    The inability of the GOP to modify stance on abortion rights will be their ultimate downfall in certain State election battles and very likely POTUS (if anyone other than Trump)...  Politics is a give & take relationship and not being able to cede something in the abortion battle, such as exceptions for rape / incest / etc. and / or limit on any abortion post 1st term proposals are DOA in the National scheme.  Voters overlook this topic when it comes to Trump (abortion slides under the radar with him due to other focuses) but if he is not able to run 2024 and you get a Ronnie D as the nominee I will almost guarantee he'll go down as the DNC will make his stance on abortion front and center to hit hard on the voting public.  If / when Newsome is announced needs to be on everyone's radar as DNC strategists are already planting the seeds in the minds of the public that Biden should step down from the 2024 race.

    It is "THE" only thing DEMs have to go on..  But is abortion really going to be a "National"  issue when the decision has already been relegated to "The States?" 

    Those ballot initiatives are going on right now in the States, and the people are speaking. 

     

    Do you really think people are going to vote for Joe again ?  C'mon now.   Abortion will not be the issue, but DEMs will try as they might. 

      We're not even 3 years into his presidency, and inflation & 2 wars have started under his watch.  A recession in 2024 will be the final nail in the coffin for Joe. 

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    The inability of the GOP to modify stance on abortion rights will be their ultimate downfall in certain State election battles and very likely POTUS (if anyone other than Trump)...  Politics is a give & take relationship and not being able to cede something in the abortion battle, such as exceptions for rape / incest / etc. and / or limit on any abortion post 1st term proposals are DOA in the National scheme.  Voters overlook this topic when it comes to Trump (abortion slides under the radar with him due to other focuses) but if he is not able to run 2024 and you get a Ronnie D as the nominee I will almost guarantee he'll go down as the DNC will make his stance on abortion front and center to hit hard on the voting public.  If / when Newsome is announced needs to be on everyone's radar as DNC strategists are already planting the seeds in the minds of the public that Biden should step down from the 2024 race.

    It is "THE" only thing DEMs have to go on..  But is abortion really going to be a "National"  issue when the decision has already been relegated to "The States?" 

    Those ballot initiatives are going on right now in the States, and the people are speaking. 

     

    Do you really think people are going to vote for Joe again ?  C'mon now.   Abortion will not be the issue, but DEMs will try as they might. 

      We're not even 3 years into his presidency, and inflation & 2 wars have started under his watch.  A recession in 2024 will be the final nail in the coffin for Joe. 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 3:14 PM ET #111

    Abortion is definitely going to hurt republicans at the state level elections, and I think there will be some carryover to the national election, but it will no way be the same factor that it is for states.

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    Abortion is definitely going to hurt republicans at the state level elections, and I think there will be some carryover to the national election, but it will no way be the same factor that it is for states.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadejax:

    Abortion is definitely going to hurt republicans at the state level elections, and I think there will be some carryover to the national election, but it will no way be the same factor that it is for states.

    Show me the data where a Democrat has said he will vote FOR a Republican if he changes his stance on abortion. 

    Then contrast that with the data in the past that has shown they will vote FOR a Republican on economic and security issues. 

    Republicans do not gain votes ‘compromising’ on abortion; they will lose votes on it though if other things are all level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadejax:

    Abortion is definitely going to hurt republicans at the state level elections, and I think there will be some carryover to the national election, but it will no way be the same factor that it is for states.

    Show me the data where a Democrat has said he will vote FOR a Republican if he changes his stance on abortion. 

    Then contrast that with the data in the past that has shown they will vote FOR a Republican on economic and security issues. 

    Republicans do not gain votes ‘compromising’ on abortion; they will lose votes on it though if other things are all level.

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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 6:35 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Cameron, was endorsed by the indicted mob boss of the trump crime family. As in previous midterm elections, candidates endorsed by Trump tend to lose.  Unlike polls, democrats seem to be doing better than expected in elections.

    Yep!  He's a loser! And everyone who didn't drink the koolaide knows it.

    sleep2

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Cameron, was endorsed by the indicted mob boss of the trump crime family. As in previous midterm elections, candidates endorsed by Trump tend to lose.  Unlike polls, democrats seem to be doing better than expected in elections.

    Yep!  He's a loser! And everyone who didn't drink the koolaide knows it.

    sleep2

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 8:02 PM ET #114

    Abortion rights have won in every election since Roe v. Wade was overturned. Yet, Republicans keep pounding that drum to their own demise.

    Reminds of the old farmer who said "Who cares if the horse is dead, keep loading the wagon!"

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    Abortion rights have won in every election since Roe v. Wade was overturned. Yet, Republicans keep pounding that drum to their own demise.

    Reminds of the old farmer who said "Who cares if the horse is dead, keep loading the wagon!"

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2023 - 11:04 AM ET #115

    Vivek smoked the GOP establishment last night.... spitting hard truths people need to hear....

     

    https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1722421483698311468

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Vivek smoked the GOP establishment last night.... spitting hard truths people need to hear....

     

    https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1722421483698311468

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2023 - 11:13 AM ET #116

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    Do you really think people are going to vote for Joe again ?  C'mon now.   Abortion will not be the issue, but DEMs will try as they might. 

    We're not even 3 years into his presidency, and inflation & 2 wars have started under his watch.  A recession in 2024 will be the final nail in the coffin for Joe. 

     

    It's not about "voting for Joe".  It is about WHO the GOP ends up running for POTUS and HOW they plan to run a successful winning campaign.  Did America "vote for Joe" in 2020 ??  NO, the Americans that won Biden the 2020 election voted AGAINST Trump.  You don't think those same "swing" voters are going to do the exact same again?  

    This is the segment of the population I am referring to.  Not the hard core life long Dems, they vote party line regardless.  It's the moderates in the middle, think right leaning people who have voted Republican in past then voted for Obama, maybe they skipped 2016 then returned to vote against Trump in 2020.  What are they going to do again faced with Trump / Biden?  

    What if it is Biden / RDS ? 

    Newsome / RDS ?   

    Newsome / Trump ?  

    So that is one part of the equation.  The other part, the part that NO ONE WANTS to answer, is what is the GOP strategy for 2024 ??  How have any of the circumstances from the 2020 election changed for 2024 ??  Is the GOP taking strategic advantages in how swing State voting is set up that the DNC has shown they have OWNED them on since the 2018 mids?  Is the GOP ready to ballot harvest in droves where legally allowed?  That is just one example and nothing the GOP has done or said shows they have the ability to effectively strategize against the DNC machine.  

    Vivek called the GOP out on this last night and is the only one with the balls to do so....

    https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1722421483698311468

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @Rush51

    Do you really think people are going to vote for Joe again ?  C'mon now.   Abortion will not be the issue, but DEMs will try as they might. 

    We're not even 3 years into his presidency, and inflation & 2 wars have started under his watch.  A recession in 2024 will be the final nail in the coffin for Joe. 

     

    It's not about "voting for Joe".  It is about WHO the GOP ends up running for POTUS and HOW they plan to run a successful winning campaign.  Did America "vote for Joe" in 2020 ??  NO, the Americans that won Biden the 2020 election voted AGAINST Trump.  You don't think those same "swing" voters are going to do the exact same again?  

    This is the segment of the population I am referring to.  Not the hard core life long Dems, they vote party line regardless.  It's the moderates in the middle, think right leaning people who have voted Republican in past then voted for Obama, maybe they skipped 2016 then returned to vote against Trump in 2020.  What are they going to do again faced with Trump / Biden?  

    What if it is Biden / RDS ? 

    Newsome / RDS ?   

    Newsome / Trump ?  

    So that is one part of the equation.  The other part, the part that NO ONE WANTS to answer, is what is the GOP strategy for 2024 ??  How have any of the circumstances from the 2020 election changed for 2024 ??  Is the GOP taking strategic advantages in how swing State voting is set up that the DNC has shown they have OWNED them on since the 2018 mids?  Is the GOP ready to ballot harvest in droves where legally allowed?  That is just one example and nothing the GOP has done or said shows they have the ability to effectively strategize against the DNC machine.  

    Vivek called the GOP out on this last night and is the only one with the balls to do so....

    https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1722421483698311468

     
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    RNC threatens to ban candidates from debates if they attend Iowa group’s forum

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    RNC threatens to ban candidates from debates if they attend Iowa group’s forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    RNC threatens to ban candidates from debates if they attend Iowa group’s forum
    In a letter obtained by NBC News,
    the RNC reminded candidates that they signed a pledge
    not to participate in debates like the one in Des Moines
    that aren’t sanctioned by the national party. an_lightening

     

     

    But a few said they were attending anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    RNC threatens to ban candidates from debates if they attend Iowa group’s forum
    In a letter obtained by NBC News,
    the RNC reminded candidates that they signed a pledge
    not to participate in debates like the one in Des Moines
    that aren’t sanctioned by the national party. an_lightening

     

     

    But a few said they were attending anyway!

         an_popcorn

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: RNC threatens to ban candidates from debates if they attend Iowa group’s forum In a letter obtained by NBC News, the RNC reminded candidates that they signed a pledge not to participate in debates like the one in Des Moines that aren’t sanctioned by the national party.     But a few said they were attending anyway!

    @fubah2

     they should want to be careful  with that      afterall those debates might eventually serveto make a good case for the gop nominee after chump gets convicted

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: RNC threatens to ban candidates from debates if they attend Iowa group’s forum In a letter obtained by NBC News, the RNC reminded candidates that they signed a pledge not to participate in debates like the one in Des Moines that aren’t sanctioned by the national party.     But a few said they were attending anyway!

    @fubah2

     they should want to be careful  with that      afterall those debates might eventually serveto make a good case for the gop nominee after chump gets convicted

     

     

     
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    GOP debates are pointless.  They are performances pretending to be relevant to 2024 election.  With Trump absent, none of the participants have a chance of becoming next president.  Trump call them all losers.  Actually, GOP debates mask the true nature of GOP authoritarianism and threat to democracy.

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    GOP debates are pointless.  They are performances pretending to be relevant to 2024 election.  With Trump absent, none of the participants have a chance of becoming next president.  Trump call them all losers.  Actually, GOP debates mask the true nature of GOP authoritarianism and threat to democracy.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2023 - 1:50 PM ET #121

    Will Santos try to save face by resigning before he gets expelled?

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    Will Santos try to save face by resigning before he gets expelled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    GOP debates are pointless.  They are performances pretending to be relevant to 2024 election.  With Trump absent, none of the participants have a chance of becoming next president.  Trump call them all losers.  Actually, GOP debates mask the true nature of GOP authoritarianism and threat to democracy.

    What do you mean by "pointless" and "none of them have a chance of becoming next President" 

    All I see everyday in here is how Trump is going to prison and won't be the next President.... can't have it both ways an_shake  

    "threat to democracy"  jfc give me a break.... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    GOP debates are pointless.  They are performances pretending to be relevant to 2024 election.  With Trump absent, none of the participants have a chance of becoming next president.  Trump call them all losers.  Actually, GOP debates mask the true nature of GOP authoritarianism and threat to democracy.

    What do you mean by "pointless" and "none of them have a chance of becoming next President" 

    All I see everyday in here is how Trump is going to prison and won't be the next President.... can't have it both ways an_shake  

    "threat to democracy"  jfc give me a break.... 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2023 - 3:48 PM ET #123

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     Trying to overturn election results and remain in power after you've lost an election,isn't a threat to our democracy?

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     Trying to overturn election results and remain in power after you've lost an election,isn't a threat to our democracy?

     
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    @MrWhatsItToYa

     Actually, GOP debates mask the true nature of GOP authoritarianism and threat to democracy.

     

    That is Thirds comment.  I responded to this comment.  Where in this comment do you see anything about "trying to overturn election results and remain in power after you've lost an election".  confused

     

    Time is a flat circle....
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     Actually, GOP debates mask the true nature of GOP authoritarianism and threat to democracy.

     

    That is Thirds comment.  I responded to this comment.  Where in this comment do you see anything about "trying to overturn election results and remain in power after you've lost an election".  confused

     

     
     
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     I'm thinking Third wasn't saying the debates are a threat to our democracy.But that the debates don't discuss (they mask) any part of the republican party who were complicit with trying to overturn the election results,which are a threat to our democracy.

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     I'm thinking Third wasn't saying the debates are a threat to our democracy.But that the debates don't discuss (they mask) any part of the republican party who were complicit with trying to overturn the election results,which are a threat to our democracy.

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