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    President Trump, Draining the Swamp

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    DoubleUp4Life
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2018 - 2:21 PM ET #26

    Are you leaning or betting any Jets futures  Brother ?
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Are you leaning or betting any Jets futures  Brother ?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2018 - 7:03 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:



    a lost election can change everything , amazing 

    the same newspaper mocks Trump today for taking away this traitor's security clearance 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/07/31/obama-should-fire-john-brennan/?utm_term=.2dbaf058cc52

    I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

    Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. [...]

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.


                                      Navy Admiral William McRaven 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:



    a lost election can change everything , amazing 

    the same newspaper mocks Trump today for taking away this traitor's security clearance 

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/07/31/obama-should-fire-john-brennan/?utm_term=.2dbaf058cc52

    I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

    Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. [...]

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.


                                      Navy Admiral William McRaven 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2018 - 8:11 PM ET #28


    Ha! He & his minions have created a far worse & more corrupt, dangerous & embarrassing swamp. While dividing the American people much deeper than before with his BS.
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    Ha! He & his minions have created a far worse & more corrupt, dangerous & embarrassing swamp. While dividing the American people much deeper than before with his BS.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2018 - 8:28 PM ET #29

    Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..

    Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..
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    Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..

    Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2018 - 9:02 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

    Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. [...]

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.


                                      Navy Admiral William McRaven 


    You forgot to add the opening that shows someone whose judgement and personal associations disqualify him for the trust that a security clearance requires and the president should honor his request and pull his clearance immediately.....

    Dear Mr. President:

    Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.

    For that alone McRavens clearance should be revoked...Brennan was caught red-handed lying about the CIA spying on Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

    Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. [...]

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.


                                      Navy Admiral William McRaven 


    You forgot to add the opening that shows someone whose judgement and personal associations disqualify him for the trust that a security clearance requires and the president should honor his request and pull his clearance immediately.....

    Dear Mr. President:

    Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.

    For that alone McRavens clearance should be revoked...Brennan was caught red-handed lying about the CIA spying on Congress.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2018 - 10:32 PM ET #31

    Still waiting...   better make some popcorn I guess


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    Still waiting...   better make some popcorn I guess


     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 12:02 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:


    Ha! He & his minions have created a far worse & more corrupt, dangerous & embarrassing swamp. While dividing the American people much deeper than before with his BS.

    The newly influx of Trump swamp becomes utterly stinky as time goes by. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:


    Ha! He & his minions have created a far worse & more corrupt, dangerous & embarrassing swamp. While dividing the American people much deeper than before with his BS.

    The newly influx of Trump swamp becomes utterly stinky as time goes by. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 1:54 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..

    And he was also a 

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. [...]Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.                                  Navy Admiral William McRaven 
    You forgot to add the opening that shows someone whose judgement and personal associations disqualify him for the trust that a security clearance requires and the president should honor his request and pull his clearance immediately.....Dear Mr. President: Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.For that alone McRavens clearance should be revoked...Brennan was caught red-handed lying about the CIA spying on Congress.

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..

    Not just good leadership ... McRaven is a decorated Navy SEAL. SEAL Team 6 operator and commanded at every level of spec ops.  Did you even know this guy was "Bull Frog" until 2011?  You probably don't even know what that is.  And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..

    And he was also a 

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. [...]Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.                                  Navy Admiral William McRaven 
    You forgot to add the opening that shows someone whose judgement and personal associations disqualify him for the trust that a security clearance requires and the president should honor his request and pull his clearance immediately.....Dear Mr. President: Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.For that alone McRavens clearance should be revoked...Brennan was caught red-handed lying about the CIA spying on Congress.

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..

    Not just good leadership ... McRaven is a decorated Navy SEAL. SEAL Team 6 operator and commanded at every level of spec ops.  Did you even know this guy was "Bull Frog" until 2011?  You probably don't even know what that is.  And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 2:58 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:


      And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  


    McRaven was appointed the chancellor of The University of Texas System in Jan.2015..Texas Senate Bill 11 – known as "campus carry" –did not take effect till Aug. 1, 2016...

    Admiral McRaven was one of the most prominent opponents of the "campus carry" bill before it was passed and it is my understanding prior to the Senate Bill becoming law the policy under McRaven was concealed handguns could not be carried into classrooms, dormitories and other buildings..now if you have something different lets hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:


      And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  


    McRaven was appointed the chancellor of The University of Texas System in Jan.2015..Texas Senate Bill 11 – known as "campus carry" –did not take effect till Aug. 1, 2016...

    Admiral McRaven was one of the most prominent opponents of the "campus carry" bill before it was passed and it is my understanding prior to the Senate Bill becoming law the policy under McRaven was concealed handguns could not be carried into classrooms, dormitories and other buildings..now if you have something different lets hear it.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 4:12 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Hey, that's what makes this country great. Different people, different point of views, all united under one flag.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Hey, that's what makes this country great. Different people, different point of views, all united under one flag.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

      And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  
    McRaven was appointed the chancellor of The University of Texas System in Jan.2015..Texas Senate Bill 11 – known as "campus carry" –did not take effect till Aug. 1, 2016...Admiral McRaven was one of the most prominent opponents of the "campus carry" bill before it was passed and it is my understanding prior to the Senate Bill becoming law the policy under McRaven was concealed handguns could not be carried into classrooms, dormitories and other buildings..now if you have something different lets hear it.

    You're correct.  He was opposed concealed carry on campus but once the law went into effect, UT had no choice but to follow the state laws.  He had a strong opinion regarding this matter but at no time did he implement or enforce a new policy based on his personal agenda.  He and UT are simply following state law.  You said "during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition."  I'm saying he made NO such changes, the politicians did regarding the concealed carry and Texas DREAM Act.  So yes he had a strong opinion regarding on campus conceal carry ... but having an opinion and implementing his own policies are two different things.  Now if your point is he has liberal/progressive/etc, etc views regarding the two laws I've mentioned then I concur.  

    https://campuscarry.utexas.edu/

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

      And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  
    McRaven was appointed the chancellor of The University of Texas System in Jan.2015..Texas Senate Bill 11 – known as "campus carry" –did not take effect till Aug. 1, 2016...Admiral McRaven was one of the most prominent opponents of the "campus carry" bill before it was passed and it is my understanding prior to the Senate Bill becoming law the policy under McRaven was concealed handguns could not be carried into classrooms, dormitories and other buildings..now if you have something different lets hear it.

    You're correct.  He was opposed concealed carry on campus but once the law went into effect, UT had no choice but to follow the state laws.  He had a strong opinion regarding this matter but at no time did he implement or enforce a new policy based on his personal agenda.  He and UT are simply following state law.  You said "during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition."  I'm saying he made NO such changes, the politicians did regarding the concealed carry and Texas DREAM Act.  So yes he had a strong opinion regarding on campus conceal carry ... but having an opinion and implementing his own policies are two different things.  Now if your point is he has liberal/progressive/etc, etc views regarding the two laws I've mentioned then I concur.  

    https://campuscarry.utexas.edu/

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:


    You're correct.  He was opposed concealed carry on campus but once the law went into effect, UT had no choice but to follow the state laws.  He had a strong opinion regarding this matter but at no time did he implement or enforce a new policy based on his personal agenda.  He and UT are simply following state law.  You said "during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition."  I'm saying he made NO such changes, the politicians did regarding the concealed carry and Texas DREAM Act.  So yes he had a strong opinion regarding on campus conceal carry ... but having an opinion and implementing his own policies are two different things.  Now if your point is he has liberal/progressive/etc, etc views regarding the two laws I've mentioned then I concur.  

    https://campuscarry.utexas.edu/


    You are correct and I stand corrected ...he didn't change any rules while he was there.....the policy was crafted, by the UT President and UT Board of Trustees ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:


    You're correct.  He was opposed concealed carry on campus but once the law went into effect, UT had no choice but to follow the state laws.  He had a strong opinion regarding this matter but at no time did he implement or enforce a new policy based on his personal agenda.  He and UT are simply following state law.  You said "during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition."  I'm saying he made NO such changes, the politicians did regarding the concealed carry and Texas DREAM Act.  So yes he had a strong opinion regarding on campus conceal carry ... but having an opinion and implementing his own policies are two different things.  Now if your point is he has liberal/progressive/etc, etc views regarding the two laws I've mentioned then I concur.  

    https://campuscarry.utexas.edu/


    You are correct and I stand corrected ...he didn't change any rules while he was there.....the policy was crafted, by the UT President and UT Board of Trustees ..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 8:21 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

      Brennan as Obama's CIA director...was the main coordinator for Obama's drone "kill list"....that also killed many innocent women and children..and later Brennan lied about it..falsely claiming .... there had not been "a single collateral death" in covert U.S. drone strikes...

    ...a total low-life swamp creature....

    Lets not forget it was Brennan's C.I.A. that unconstitutionally spied on Congress by hacking into the Senate Intelligence Committee computers   he should have been fired then and lost all clearance  years ago..


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/middleeast/us-saudi-yemen-bus-strike-intl/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

      Brennan as Obama's CIA director...was the main coordinator for Obama's drone "kill list"....that also killed many innocent women and children..and later Brennan lied about it..falsely claiming .... there had not been "a single collateral death" in covert U.S. drone strikes...

    ...a total low-life swamp creature....

    Lets not forget it was Brennan's C.I.A. that unconstitutionally spied on Congress by hacking into the Senate Intelligence Committee computers   he should have been fired then and lost all clearance  years ago..


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/middleeast/us-saudi-yemen-bus-strike-intl/index.html
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 10:49 PM ET #39

    Hard to drain when the biggest turd has the drain clogged.
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    Hard to drain when the biggest turd has the drain clogged.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2018 - 11:55 PM ET #40

    Betsy DeVos....Draining the swamp my arse. This is the most currupt cabinet in history. They are literally all shady.

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    Betsy DeVos....Draining the swamp my arse. This is the most currupt cabinet in history. They are literally all shady.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 1:09 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Hard to drain when the biggest turd has the drain clogged.

    The drain appears not clog at all. To the opposite, Trump has poured in some heavy slimy and stink swamp with his administration. Really stinking and rotten.    
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Hard to drain when the biggest turd has the drain clogged.

    The drain appears not clog at all. To the opposite, Trump has poured in some heavy slimy and stink swamp with his administration. Really stinking and rotten.    
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2018 - 11:44 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Betsy DeVos....Draining the swamp my arse. This is the most corrupt cabinet in history. They are literally all shady.

    No question...Devos is awful as are most every single member of his cabinet. I am not sure how those that stupidly support Trump and listened to his lies during the campaign could continue to do so after the corporate elite throw up he put in. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Betsy DeVos....Draining the swamp my arse. This is the most corrupt cabinet in history. They are literally all shady.

    No question...Devos is awful as are most every single member of his cabinet. I am not sure how those that stupidly support Trump and listened to his lies during the campaign could continue to do so after the corporate elite throw up he put in. 

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