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    Cranky_Hank
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:02 PM ET #1

    Who says money can’t buy power?

     

    President Musk is dismantling our federal system of government after buying it exactly the same way he dismantled Twitter after buying it.

    He paid 40 billion dollars for Twitter.  He got the United States for a steal, a paltry $250 million!!!

    No wonder Trump sees President Musk as a savvy businessman.

    an_cheers

    Keep at it.
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    Who says money can’t buy power?

     

    President Musk is dismantling our federal system of government after buying it exactly the same way he dismantled Twitter after buying it.

    He paid 40 billion dollars for Twitter.  He got the United States for a steal, a paltry $250 million!!!

    No wonder Trump sees President Musk as a savvy businessman.

    an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:30 PM ET #2

     

    Trump gets to play president and enjoy all the publicity and attention.

    Meanwhile, President Musk is destroying American institutions from within.  Actually closing federal agencies and buildings.  Accessing all computerized records from the Treasury Department to Medicare to Social Security.

    Trump is the circus performing distraction.

    President Musk, a South African citizen, is literally destroying America.

    And nobody says anything.  Nobody does a thing.  MAGA cheers for Trump.  The Dems a curled up in a ball.  The country is being destroyed by a South African dictator, through the greatest coup the world has ever seen.

    Keep at it.
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    Trump gets to play president and enjoy all the publicity and attention.

    Meanwhile, President Musk is destroying American institutions from within.  Actually closing federal agencies and buildings.  Accessing all computerized records from the Treasury Department to Medicare to Social Security.

    Trump is the circus performing distraction.

    President Musk, a South African citizen, is literally destroying America.

    And nobody says anything.  Nobody does a thing.  MAGA cheers for Trump.  The Dems a curled up in a ball.  The country is being destroyed by a South African dictator, through the greatest coup the world has ever seen.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:38 PM ET #3

    @Cranky_Hank

     Accessing all computerized records from the Treasury Department to Medicare to Social Security.

     

    Yes.  These are "read only" accessed files so any future body will be able to audit pre and post cuts.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @Cranky_Hank

     Accessing all computerized records from the Treasury Department to Medicare to Social Security.

     

    Yes.  These are "read only" accessed files so any future body will be able to audit pre and post cuts.  

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:41 PM ET #4

    Musk declared in a post, "Doge has not looked at, nor is there any interest in, private financial data. What would we even do with it? The outgoing payment review process just looks at potential fraud and wasteful spending to organizations. Corrupt politicians are the ones complaining. I wonder why?"

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    Musk declared in a post, "Doge has not looked at, nor is there any interest in, private financial data. What would we even do with it? The outgoing payment review process just looks at potential fraud and wasteful spending to organizations. Corrupt politicians are the ones complaining. I wonder why?"

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:44 PM ET #5

    Why is a citizen of another country given free access to U.S. governmental institutions and records?  

    No background check.  No security clearance.  Just a foreign agent wreaking havoc on America.

    C’mon man!

    Keep at it.
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    Why is a citizen of another country given free access to U.S. governmental institutions and records?  

    No background check.  No security clearance.  Just a foreign agent wreaking havoc on America.

    C’mon man!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:50 PM ET #6

    Try Googling career politician Chuck Shumer's net worth.

    You find anywhere from $900,000 to $81,000,000. 

    https://www.commuterclub.co.uk/chuck-schumer-net-worth-whats-behind-his-wealth/

    https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/wealth/chuck-schumer-net-worth/

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    Try Googling career politician Chuck Shumer's net worth.

    You find anywhere from $900,000 to $81,000,000. 

    https://www.commuterclub.co.uk/chuck-schumer-net-worth-whats-behind-his-wealth/

    https://www.lawyersclubindia.com/wealth/chuck-schumer-net-worth/

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:53 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    Why is a citizen of another country given free access to U.S. governmental institutions and records?   No background check.  No security clearance.  Just a foreign agent wreaking havoc on America. C’mon man!

    Try again.

    Elon Musk is a citizen of the United States, having obtained his citizenship in 2002. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    Why is a citizen of another country given free access to U.S. governmental institutions and records?   No background check.  No security clearance.  Just a foreign agent wreaking havoc on America. C’mon man!

    Try again.

    Elon Musk is a citizen of the United States, having obtained his citizenship in 2002. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:56 PM ET #8

    Why isn’t anyone asking wtf Elon Musk is doing in the nerve center of American government? 

    Keep at it.
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    Why isn’t anyone asking wtf Elon Musk is doing in the nerve center of American government? 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 2:59 PM ET #9

    @UNIMAN

     Elon Musk’s father — Errol Musk — was a South African citizen, and his mother — Maye Musk — was a Canadian citizen. In 1971, Maye Musk gave birth to her first child — Elon Musk — in Pretoria, South Africa. Therefore by birth, Elon is a South African citizen. Elon got Canadian citizenship through his mother. Then he came to the US as a student from Canada. After completing a bachelor’s degree and deferring the Ph.D. for six months, Elon started an internet company — Zip2. When investors in Zip2 realized Elon does not have a green card, they helped Elon to get an EB-5 investor green card in 1997. In 2002, Elon became a US citizen through the naturalization process.

    Keep at it.
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    @UNIMAN

     Elon Musk’s father — Errol Musk — was a South African citizen, and his mother — Maye Musk — was a Canadian citizen. In 1971, Maye Musk gave birth to her first child — Elon Musk — in Pretoria, South Africa. Therefore by birth, Elon is a South African citizen. Elon got Canadian citizenship through his mother. Then he came to the US as a student from Canada. After completing a bachelor’s degree and deferring the Ph.D. for six months, Elon started an internet company — Zip2. When investors in Zip2 realized Elon does not have a green card, they helped Elon to get an EB-5 investor green card in 1997. In 2002, Elon became a US citizen through the naturalization process.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 3:02 PM ET #10

    One more time,

    Under what authority does Elon Musk have to shut down U.S. government agencies?

    Keep at it.
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    One more time,

    Under what authority does Elon Musk have to shut down U.S. government agencies?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 3:17 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank: Why is a citizen of another country given free access to U.S. governmental institutions and records?   No background check.  No security clearance.  Just a foreign agent wreaking havoc on America. C’mon man! Try again. Elon Musk is a citizen of the United States, having obtained his citizenship in 2002.

    But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank: Why is a citizen of another country given free access to U.S. governmental institutions and records?   No background check.  No security clearance.  Just a foreign agent wreaking havoc on America. C’mon man! Try again. Elon Musk is a citizen of the United States, having obtained his citizenship in 2002.

    But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 3:28 PM ET #12

    And what agency has Musk shutdown? He said USAID should be shutdown and Trump agrees.

    Trump put Rubio in charge of USAID.

    In a letter to Congress on Monday, Rubio said he had ordered a "review and potential reorganization of USAID's activities to maximize efficiency and align operations with national interest." The State Department would consult with Congress to "reorganize and absorb" parts of the agency, according to the letter.

     

    So the real question is; How much authority does Trump have over USAID. 

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    And what agency has Musk shutdown? He said USAID should be shutdown and Trump agrees.

    Trump put Rubio in charge of USAID.

    In a letter to Congress on Monday, Rubio said he had ordered a "review and potential reorganization of USAID's activities to maximize efficiency and align operations with national interest." The State Department would consult with Congress to "reorganize and absorb" parts of the agency, according to the letter.

     

    So the real question is; How much authority does Trump have over USAID. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 3:32 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?

     

    See no relevance to your statement. Musk legally applied for and went through the process of becoming a citizen. 

    I see Musk as an outside private auditor selected by the President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?

     

    See no relevance to your statement. Musk legally applied for and went through the process of becoming a citizen. 

    I see Musk as an outside private auditor selected by the President.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 3:53 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?   See no relevance to your statement. Musk legally applied for and went through the process of becoming a citizen.  I see Musk as an outside private auditor selected by the President.

    Didn't he work illegally in the 90's when he was suppose to be going to school per his visa?

    He wants to deport immigrants working illegally in the US & he certainly falls into that category, right?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?   See no relevance to your statement. Musk legally applied for and went through the process of becoming a citizen.  I see Musk as an outside private auditor selected by the President.

    Didn't he work illegally in the 90's when he was suppose to be going to school per his visa?

    He wants to deport immigrants working illegally in the US & he certainly falls into that category, right?

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 4:12 PM ET #15

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?   See no relevance to your statement. Musk legally applied for and went through the process of becoming a citizen.  I see Musk as an outside private auditor selected by the President. Didn't he work illegally in the 90's when he was suppose to be going to school per his visa? He wants to deport immigrants working illegally in the US & he certainly falls into that category, right?[/Quote]

    SNOPES rates that claim as UNPROVEN. 

    I have no idea.

    Musk said; I was on a J-1 visa that transitioned to an H1-B. They know this, as they have all my records. Losing the election is making them desperate

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: But doesn't he fall outside the "birthright citizenship" designation?   See no relevance to your statement. Musk legally applied for and went through the process of becoming a citizen.  I see Musk as an outside private auditor selected by the President. Didn't he work illegally in the 90's when he was suppose to be going to school per his visa? He wants to deport immigrants working illegally in the US & he certainly falls into that category, right?[/Quote]

    SNOPES rates that claim as UNPROVEN. 

    I have no idea.

    Musk said; I was on a J-1 visa that transitioned to an H1-B. They know this, as they have all my records. Losing the election is making them desperate

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 4:24 PM ET #16

    They have wasted serious money on some useless stuff... that money, tax payer money could be spent more wisely, like more to the veterans ,homeless. Infrastructure. 

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    They have wasted serious money on some useless stuff... that money, tax payer money could be spent more wisely, like more to the veterans ,homeless. Infrastructure. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 4:46 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    One more time, Under what authority does Elon Musk have to shut down U.S. government agencies?

    None!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    One more time, Under what authority does Elon Musk have to shut down U.S. government agencies?

    None!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank: One more time, Under what authority does Elon Musk have to shut down U.S. government agencies? None!

    I agree and that is why he has not. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank: One more time, Under what authority does Elon Musk have to shut down U.S. government agencies? None!

    I agree and that is why he has not. an_light

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 5:10 PM ET #19

    @scooby-doos

     Its called lobbyists and PAC influence on politicians and it has ZERO to do with a single party. Its cute seeing that dope Musk playing detective and trying to pin all the faults onto the DNC when every single freaking politician is scheming so they can get elected and funded to continue in office.

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    @scooby-doos

     Its called lobbyists and PAC influence on politicians and it has ZERO to do with a single party. Its cute seeing that dope Musk playing detective and trying to pin all the faults onto the DNC when every single freaking politician is scheming so they can get elected and funded to continue in office.

     
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    Here comes another temper tantrum thread based on accusations and assumptions with no actual facts to back up any complaints.  

    @wallstreetcappers  Its cute seeing that dope Musk playing detective and trying to pin all the faults onto the DNC when every single freaking politician is scheming so they can get elected and funded to continue in office.

     

    Ahhh so Trump and Musk seem to be doing with the Dems have been doing to Trump for the last 9 years? It's funny watching the rats jump ship. 

     

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    Here comes another temper tantrum thread based on accusations and assumptions with no actual facts to back up any complaints.  

    @wallstreetcappers  Its cute seeing that dope Musk playing detective and trying to pin all the faults onto the DNC when every single freaking politician is scheming so they can get elected and funded to continue in office.

     

    Ahhh so Trump and Musk seem to be doing with the Dems have been doing to Trump for the last 9 years? It's funny watching the rats jump ship. 

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 5:46 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    Who says money can’t buy power?   President Musk is dismantling our federal system of government after buying it exactly the same way he dismantled Twitter after buying it. He paid 40 billion dollars for Twitter.  He got the United States for a steal, a paltry $250 million!!! No wonder Trump sees President Musk as a savvy businessman.

    and hes a racist too just like the felon 

     

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    Who says money can’t buy power?   President Musk is dismantling our federal system of government after buying it exactly the same way he dismantled Twitter after buying it. He paid 40 billion dollars for Twitter.  He got the United States for a steal, a paltry $250 million!!! No wonder Trump sees President Musk as a savvy businessman.

    and hes a racist too just like the felon 

     

     

     

     

     
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    @BigGame90

     Rats jump ship? Was it Musk who threw down the theatrics or was it not? I have no idea what you are talking about with the Trump sob story this is about the clown Musk trying to play partisan monopoly money games and the truth is both sides are schemers. I dont recall seeing the DNC throwing block parties saying they would cut trillions off the government or suggesting the excess spending is from one party.

    Own your dood and quit trying to make excuses for these schleps. Trump looks medicated in the wandering Palestinian obtuse presser today, what in the holy crap is he even talking about? Are the Palestinians cattle that just need a new field to graze in and since its better than a sewer trough then its a good deal?

    You backed a winner here buddy...

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    @BigGame90

     Rats jump ship? Was it Musk who threw down the theatrics or was it not? I have no idea what you are talking about with the Trump sob story this is about the clown Musk trying to play partisan monopoly money games and the truth is both sides are schemers. I dont recall seeing the DNC throwing block parties saying they would cut trillions off the government or suggesting the excess spending is from one party.

    Own your dood and quit trying to make excuses for these schleps. Trump looks medicated in the wandering Palestinian obtuse presser today, what in the holy crap is he even talking about? Are the Palestinians cattle that just need a new field to graze in and since its better than a sewer trough then its a good deal?

    You backed a winner here buddy...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank: Who says money can’t buy power?   President Musk is dismantling our federal system of government after buying it exactly the same way he dismantled Twitter after buying it. He paid 40 billion dollars for Twitter.  He got the United States for a steal, a paltry $250 million!!! No wonder Trump sees President Musk as a savvy businessman. and hes a racist too just like the felon

     

     

    calling someone a racist with no proof slander. Should really check yourself before you accuse someone of something they may not be just because it's your opinion and you don't like the guy. peace_5

     

    @wallstreetcappers unlike you and most in here, I don't watch political news. I have no idea why I'm here actually. The rats started jumping ship the day Trump was elected and sworn in. Musk is drunk on power and I'm here to watch everyone go mad. What if, this is a big what if, he actually makes progress and brings in efficiency? Everyone so quick to judge and he's just getting started getting to work. Biden and Harris were medicated all day, every day.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank: Who says money can’t buy power?   President Musk is dismantling our federal system of government after buying it exactly the same way he dismantled Twitter after buying it. He paid 40 billion dollars for Twitter.  He got the United States for a steal, a paltry $250 million!!! No wonder Trump sees President Musk as a savvy businessman. and hes a racist too just like the felon

     

     

    calling someone a racist with no proof slander. Should really check yourself before you accuse someone of something they may not be just because it's your opinion and you don't like the guy. peace_5

     

    @wallstreetcappers unlike you and most in here, I don't watch political news. I have no idea why I'm here actually. The rats started jumping ship the day Trump was elected and sworn in. Musk is drunk on power and I'm here to watch everyone go mad. What if, this is a big what if, he actually makes progress and brings in efficiency? Everyone so quick to judge and he's just getting started getting to work. Biden and Harris were medicated all day, every day.  

     

     
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    @BigGame90

     He cannot make progress and improve efficiency while also being partisan. If the problem is not addressed in a neutral and comprehensive way then it accomplishes nothing but I dont think he can accomplish anything even on his best day, the guy is crackers crazy and is the last person who should be criticizing the government..without freebies and ZIRP Musk is pitching mutual funds to retirees or living in a commune with his crazy girlfriends.

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    @BigGame90

     He cannot make progress and improve efficiency while also being partisan. If the problem is not addressed in a neutral and comprehensive way then it accomplishes nothing but I dont think he can accomplish anything even on his best day, the guy is crackers crazy and is the last person who should be criticizing the government..without freebies and ZIRP Musk is pitching mutual funds to retirees or living in a commune with his crazy girlfriends.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2025 - 8:13 PM ET #25

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    We'll see. Time will tell. I remember a time when democrats would kiss his feet if he walked by.

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    We'll see. Time will tell. I remember a time when democrats would kiss his feet if he walked by.

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